• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:04
CET 16:04
KST 00:04
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
2026 KongFu Cup Announcement3BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains15Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block4GSL CK - New online series19
StarCraft 2
General
GSL CK - New online series BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 KongFu Cup Announcement [GSL CK] Team Maru vs. Team herO
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 516 Specter of Death Mutation # 515 Together Forever Mutation # 514 Ulnar New Year
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BSL 22 Map Contest — Submissions OPEN to March 10 ASL21 General Discussion Are you ready for ASL 21? Hype VIDEO Gypsy to Korea
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] Open Qualifiers & Ladder Tours IPSL Spring 2026 is here! ASL Season 21 Qualifiers March 7-8
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread PC Games Sales Thread No Man's Sky (PS4 and PC)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Mexico's Drug War Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine NASA and the Private Sector
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread General nutrition recommendations Cricket [SPORT] TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2836 users

Germany (IX): Cheap or expensive? - Page 5

Blogs > zatic
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
October 12 2012 02:29 GMT
#81
On October 12 2012 10:57 targ wrote:
hey zatic, I'm curious about something which is abit off topic.

so a few years back many of my friends went to Germany to do their undergrads. according to them studying there was free/very cheap (cannot remember which) as long as they passed some German exam. I wonder why Germany is so generous as to offer such cheap education to foreigners, as I've never heard of America/the UK giving such offers. is it to promote usage of the German language worldwide?


it's simply to give all kinds of people a shot at higher education regardless of the depth of their pockets.

The Goethe Institutes all around the world were founded to promote the german language
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
October 12 2012 07:14 GMT
#82
On October 12 2012 11:29 Skilledblob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 10:57 targ wrote:
hey zatic, I'm curious about something which is abit off topic.

so a few years back many of my friends went to Germany to do their undergrads. according to them studying there was free/very cheap (cannot remember which) as long as they passed some German exam. I wonder why Germany is so generous as to offer such cheap education to foreigners, as I've never heard of America/the UK giving such offers. is it to promote usage of the German language worldwide?


it's simply to give all kinds of people a shot at higher education regardless of the depth of their pockets.

The Goethe Institutes all around the world were founded to promote the german language

Dude Germany sounds awesome.

Btw, if I was to go spend a few months in Berlin, would it be easy for me to live there while only having a rudimentary (like 1 year of Uni) understanding of German?
Что?
Argoth.
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1961 Posts
October 12 2012 07:51 GMT
#83
On October 12 2012 16:14 Shady Sands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 11:29 Skilledblob wrote:
On October 12 2012 10:57 targ wrote:
hey zatic, I'm curious about something which is abit off topic.

so a few years back many of my friends went to Germany to do their undergrads. according to them studying there was free/very cheap (cannot remember which) as long as they passed some German exam. I wonder why Germany is so generous as to offer such cheap education to foreigners, as I've never heard of America/the UK giving such offers. is it to promote usage of the German language worldwide?


it's simply to give all kinds of people a shot at higher education regardless of the depth of their pockets.

The Goethe Institutes all around the world were founded to promote the german language

Dude Germany sounds awesome.

Btw, if I was to go spend a few months in Berlin, would it be easy for me to live there while only having a rudimentary (like 1 year of Uni) understanding of German?

Definitely. Most ppl speak English and for your daily grocery stuff, just grab a pocket dictionary. Hell you can even do your theoretical drivers licence test in your mother language....
Should be especially easy in Berlin as it has attracted quite a lot of ppl from foreign countries due to being a "stylish, hip, art and creative city".
AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2594 Posts
October 12 2012 07:53 GMT
#84
On October 12 2012 16:14 Shady Sands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 11:29 Skilledblob wrote:
On October 12 2012 10:57 targ wrote:
hey zatic, I'm curious about something which is abit off topic.

so a few years back many of my friends went to Germany to do their undergrads. according to them studying there was free/very cheap (cannot remember which) as long as they passed some German exam. I wonder why Germany is so generous as to offer such cheap education to foreigners, as I've never heard of America/the UK giving such offers. is it to promote usage of the German language worldwide?


it's simply to give all kinds of people a shot at higher education regardless of the depth of their pockets.

The Goethe Institutes all around the world were founded to promote the german language

Dude Germany sounds awesome.

Btw, if I was to go spend a few months in Berlin, would it be easy for me to live there while only having a rudimentary (like 1 year of Uni) understanding of German?

You can get by in Germany with even less understanding of German than that. Pretty much anyone here with a college education speaks English at least fairly fluently, and you can communicate at least basic ideas to nearly everyone.
The frumious Bandersnatch
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
October 12 2012 08:25 GMT
#85
Funny how the blog about Germany turned into a discussion over beer brands.

Also I feel that the importance/deliciousness of bread is not stressed enough in this great blog.
German bread deserves a dedicated blog of it's own. Just ask every German living abroad (sup Dario).
11 years and counting- TL #680
HorstSchlemmer
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany114 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-12 09:30:34
October 12 2012 08:35 GMT
#86
As soon as someone asks about the "best" german beer, he'll get like a million different responses.
There are like 5000 different brands of german beer and depending on where you live and what you've grown up with, you'll have a totally different taste. Beware if someone says that Kölsch is the best beer though, he might be insane.

If you ever talk to a group of germans and ask them about the "best" beer, prepare yourself for a really long discussion.
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
October 12 2012 11:32 GMT
#87
Hmm what is the average wage in Germany?

I look at food items prices but they look on par with Australia which is notorious for high living costs but we do have slightly higher average income compare to US.
Rillanon.au
Rimstalker
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany734 Posts
October 12 2012 12:08 GMT
#88
On October 12 2012 20:32 haduken wrote:
Hmm what is the average wage in Germany?

I look at food items prices but they look on par with Australia which is notorious for high living costs but we do have slightly higher average income compare to US.


GDP is comparable AU vs. DE.

Some produce is laughably cheap in AU and expensive in Germany (squash for example)
Dairy products cost multiple times more in AU - in Germany, you can get a litre of milk at 40 cents. But rent is completely different, as AU is sprawling, everyone has his 1 story house made from wood with a garden around it.
Your internet is famously shitty and expensive. The price for bottled water in Australia is a ripoff, never saw it for less than 50 cents per liter, even if buying bulk.

Here be Dragons
GohgamX
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada1096 Posts
October 12 2012 13:35 GMT
#89
What a great thread topic. Now I want to travel to Germany and I have the heads up on whats going to hit me in my pocket. Whats the internet speed/costs like there?
Time is a great teacher, unfortunate that it kills all its pupils ...
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
October 12 2012 13:49 GMT
#90
These blogs are always so cool.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-12 14:06:25
October 12 2012 14:06 GMT
#91
On October 12 2012 22:35 GohgamX wrote:
What a great thread topic. Now I want to travel to Germany and I have the heads up on whats going to hit me in my pocket. Whats the internet speed/costs like there?


on average I'd say 25 to 30€ for a 16k download flatrate per month
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
October 12 2012 15:30 GMT
#92
On October 12 2012 20:32 haduken wrote:
Hmm what is the average wage in Germany?

I look at food items prices but they look on par with Australia which is notorious for high living costs but we do have slightly higher average income compare to US.


Local vs local is going to be a more apt comparison. I live in Los Angeles and prices here for some things are stupidly expensive. On the other hand, some places in the deep south in the US are almost like being in a third world country.

As for a price comparison, a very large pizza in Costco is around $10. Aspirin is $14.49 for 400 tablets. The Costco brand for Ibuprofen (the generic of Advil) is $9 for 1000 tablets. Can't believe aspirin is that expensive in Germany. It's over the counter here in the US.
archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
October 12 2012 15:34 GMT
#93
I'm thinking about visiting Germany but I've heard that the south of Germany has an easier dialect in terms of pronunciation and speed for foreigners with basic German as opposed to the north. Is it true?
I'm Quotable (IQ)
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15363 Posts
October 12 2012 16:08 GMT
#94
On October 13 2012 00:34 archonOOid wrote:
I'm thinking about visiting Germany but I've heard that the south of Germany has an easier dialect in terms of pronunciation and speed for foreigners with basic German as opposed to the north. Is it true?

I guess this is dependent on where you come from. As a foreigner you should learn High German though anyway, not a dialect.

In terms of understanding, any dialect will be difficult or impossible for a foreigner. Heck, many Germans have trouble understanding each others dialect.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
October 12 2012 16:37 GMT
#95
On October 12 2012 16:51 Argoth. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 16:14 Shady Sands wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:29 Skilledblob wrote:
On October 12 2012 10:57 targ wrote:
hey zatic, I'm curious about something which is abit off topic.

so a few years back many of my friends went to Germany to do their undergrads. according to them studying there was free/very cheap (cannot remember which) as long as they passed some German exam. I wonder why Germany is so generous as to offer such cheap education to foreigners, as I've never heard of America/the UK giving such offers. is it to promote usage of the German language worldwide?


it's simply to give all kinds of people a shot at higher education regardless of the depth of their pockets.

The Goethe Institutes all around the world were founded to promote the german language

Dude Germany sounds awesome.

Btw, if I was to go spend a few months in Berlin, would it be easy for me to live there while only having a rudimentary (like 1 year of Uni) understanding of German?

Definitely. Most ppl speak English and for your daily grocery stuff, just grab a pocket dictionary. Hell you can even do your theoretical drivers licence test in your mother language....
Should be especially easy in Berlin as it has attracted quite a lot of ppl from foreign countries due to being a "stylish, hip, art and creative city".


Thanks! If I go it will probably be to work with the Samwer Brothers in the Rocket Internet incubator. Really admire the work they've done in speeding up execution across the consumer internet space

On October 12 2012 16:53 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 16:14 Shady Sands wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:29 Skilledblob wrote:
On October 12 2012 10:57 targ wrote:
hey zatic, I'm curious about something which is abit off topic.

so a few years back many of my friends went to Germany to do their undergrads. according to them studying there was free/very cheap (cannot remember which) as long as they passed some German exam. I wonder why Germany is so generous as to offer such cheap education to foreigners, as I've never heard of America/the UK giving such offers. is it to promote usage of the German language worldwide?


it's simply to give all kinds of people a shot at higher education regardless of the depth of their pockets.

The Goethe Institutes all around the world were founded to promote the german language

Dude Germany sounds awesome.

Btw, if I was to go spend a few months in Berlin, would it be easy for me to live there while only having a rudimentary (like 1 year of Uni) understanding of German?

You can get by in Germany with even less understanding of German than that. Pretty much anyone here with a college education speaks English at least fairly fluently, and you can communicate at least basic ideas to nearly everyone.


Got it. Thanks a ton =)
Что?
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
October 12 2012 16:58 GMT
#96
On October 13 2012 01:08 zatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 00:34 archonOOid wrote:
I'm thinking about visiting Germany but I've heard that the south of Germany has an easier dialect in terms of pronunciation and speed for foreigners with basic German as opposed to the north. Is it true?

I guess this is dependent on where you come from. As a foreigner you should learn High German though anyway, not a dialect.

In terms of understanding, any dialect will be difficult or impossible for a foreigner. Heck, many Germans have trouble understanding each others dialect.


Are these dialects just different accents and minor variations in vocabulary or are they completely different languages like in say, China, India, the Philippines, etc.?
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15363 Posts
October 12 2012 17:10 GMT
#97
On October 13 2012 01:58 andrewlt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 01:08 zatic wrote:
On October 13 2012 00:34 archonOOid wrote:
I'm thinking about visiting Germany but I've heard that the south of Germany has an easier dialect in terms of pronunciation and speed for foreigners with basic German as opposed to the north. Is it true?

I guess this is dependent on where you come from. As a foreigner you should learn High German though anyway, not a dialect.

In terms of understanding, any dialect will be difficult or impossible for a foreigner. Heck, many Germans have trouble understanding each others dialect.


Are these dialects just different accents and minor variations in vocabulary or are they completely different languages like in say, China, India, the Philippines, etc.?

They are dialects. Minor differences in vocabulary, but major differences in pronunciation to the point that people have trouble understanding strong dialects from different regions.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-12 17:21:00
October 12 2012 17:17 GMT
#98
On October 13 2012 01:58 andrewlt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 01:08 zatic wrote:
On October 13 2012 00:34 archonOOid wrote:
I'm thinking about visiting Germany but I've heard that the south of Germany has an easier dialect in terms of pronunciation and speed for foreigners with basic German as opposed to the north. Is it true?

I guess this is dependent on where you come from. As a foreigner you should learn High German though anyway, not a dialect.

In terms of understanding, any dialect will be difficult or impossible for a foreigner. Heck, many Germans have trouble understanding each others dialect.


Are these dialects just different accents and minor variations in vocabulary or are they completely different languages like in say, China, India, the Philippines, etc.?


the dialects can be very different because some of them are based on different germanic language subfamilies. THe devide is north and south here. While northern germany speaks dialects closer to what we call "high german" the dialects of the southern parts of germany belong to another language family, which makes it hard for northerners to understand people from the south
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-12 18:57:23
October 12 2012 18:54 GMT
#99
On October 13 2012 02:17 Skilledblob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 01:58 andrewlt wrote:
On October 13 2012 01:08 zatic wrote:
On October 13 2012 00:34 archonOOid wrote:
I'm thinking about visiting Germany but I've heard that the south of Germany has an easier dialect in terms of pronunciation and speed for foreigners with basic German as opposed to the north. Is it true?

I guess this is dependent on where you come from. As a foreigner you should learn High German though anyway, not a dialect.

In terms of understanding, any dialect will be difficult or impossible for a foreigner. Heck, many Germans have trouble understanding each others dialect.


Are these dialects just different accents and minor variations in vocabulary or are they completely different languages like in say, China, India, the Philippines, etc.?


the dialects can be very different because some of them are based on different germanic language subfamilies. THe devide is north and south here. While northern germany speaks dialects closer to what we call "high german" the dialects of the southern parts of germany belong to another language family, which makes it hard for northerners to understand people from the south


That's just plain wrong.

Language families
German dialects.
11 years and counting- TL #680
Firlefanz
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany245 Posts
October 12 2012 19:04 GMT
#100
I think you shouldn't worry too much about dialects. High German is way more common amongst young people (+ they'll understand you way better than the older ones).
I'm from Munich and Bavarian is something like a first foreign language here (almost a 100% of the city people learn High German first or are able to express themselves in High German).
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Team League
12:00
Group B
WardiTV953
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
MindelVK 45
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 16260
firebathero 7294
Horang2 2327
Jaedong 2046
BeSt 492
Mini 486
EffOrt 447
Stork 376
Rush 289
Soma 261
[ Show more ]
Dewaltoss 137
actioN 129
Last 99
ToSsGirL 72
Mind 68
Sea.KH 57
Backho 49
Barracks 38
sorry 36
JulyZerg 32
Hm[arnc] 31
IntoTheRainbow 29
Nal_rA 21
GoRush 18
Terrorterran 15
NaDa 11
SilentControl 10
ivOry 10
Aegong 8
Dota 2
Gorgc6018
BananaSlamJamma130
League of Legends
Rex47
Counter-Strike
fl0m2051
byalli758
x6flipin428
kRYSTAL_34
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor384
Liquid`Hasu254
Other Games
B2W.Neo2547
Liquid`RaSZi1124
DeMusliM329
KnowMe198
Fuzer 182
Hui .163
crisheroes99
Mew2King64
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream16189
Other Games
gamesdonequick948
ComeBackTV 273
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 19
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 11
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 68
• musti20045 33
• poizon28 19
• Adnapsc2 11
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 35
• iopq 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 1333
Upcoming Events
Patches Events
1h 56m
BSL
4h 56m
GSL
16h 56m
Wardi Open
20h 56m
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 1h
WardiTV Team League
1d 20h
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
OSC
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
[ Show More ]
KCM Race Survival
3 days
WardiTV Team League
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
WardiTV Team League
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
BSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-13
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
BSL Season 22
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

CSL Elite League 2026
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
NationLESS Cup
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.