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Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
October 12 2012 02:29 GMT
#81
On October 12 2012 10:57 targ wrote:
hey zatic, I'm curious about something which is abit off topic.

so a few years back many of my friends went to Germany to do their undergrads. according to them studying there was free/very cheap (cannot remember which) as long as they passed some German exam. I wonder why Germany is so generous as to offer such cheap education to foreigners, as I've never heard of America/the UK giving such offers. is it to promote usage of the German language worldwide?


it's simply to give all kinds of people a shot at higher education regardless of the depth of their pockets.

The Goethe Institutes all around the world were founded to promote the german language
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
October 12 2012 07:14 GMT
#82
On October 12 2012 11:29 Skilledblob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 10:57 targ wrote:
hey zatic, I'm curious about something which is abit off topic.

so a few years back many of my friends went to Germany to do their undergrads. according to them studying there was free/very cheap (cannot remember which) as long as they passed some German exam. I wonder why Germany is so generous as to offer such cheap education to foreigners, as I've never heard of America/the UK giving such offers. is it to promote usage of the German language worldwide?


it's simply to give all kinds of people a shot at higher education regardless of the depth of their pockets.

The Goethe Institutes all around the world were founded to promote the german language

Dude Germany sounds awesome.

Btw, if I was to go spend a few months in Berlin, would it be easy for me to live there while only having a rudimentary (like 1 year of Uni) understanding of German?
Что?
Argoth.
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1961 Posts
October 12 2012 07:51 GMT
#83
On October 12 2012 16:14 Shady Sands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 11:29 Skilledblob wrote:
On October 12 2012 10:57 targ wrote:
hey zatic, I'm curious about something which is abit off topic.

so a few years back many of my friends went to Germany to do their undergrads. according to them studying there was free/very cheap (cannot remember which) as long as they passed some German exam. I wonder why Germany is so generous as to offer such cheap education to foreigners, as I've never heard of America/the UK giving such offers. is it to promote usage of the German language worldwide?


it's simply to give all kinds of people a shot at higher education regardless of the depth of their pockets.

The Goethe Institutes all around the world were founded to promote the german language

Dude Germany sounds awesome.

Btw, if I was to go spend a few months in Berlin, would it be easy for me to live there while only having a rudimentary (like 1 year of Uni) understanding of German?

Definitely. Most ppl speak English and for your daily grocery stuff, just grab a pocket dictionary. Hell you can even do your theoretical drivers licence test in your mother language....
Should be especially easy in Berlin as it has attracted quite a lot of ppl from foreign countries due to being a "stylish, hip, art and creative city".
AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2597 Posts
October 12 2012 07:53 GMT
#84
On October 12 2012 16:14 Shady Sands wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 11:29 Skilledblob wrote:
On October 12 2012 10:57 targ wrote:
hey zatic, I'm curious about something which is abit off topic.

so a few years back many of my friends went to Germany to do their undergrads. according to them studying there was free/very cheap (cannot remember which) as long as they passed some German exam. I wonder why Germany is so generous as to offer such cheap education to foreigners, as I've never heard of America/the UK giving such offers. is it to promote usage of the German language worldwide?


it's simply to give all kinds of people a shot at higher education regardless of the depth of their pockets.

The Goethe Institutes all around the world were founded to promote the german language

Dude Germany sounds awesome.

Btw, if I was to go spend a few months in Berlin, would it be easy for me to live there while only having a rudimentary (like 1 year of Uni) understanding of German?

You can get by in Germany with even less understanding of German than that. Pretty much anyone here with a college education speaks English at least fairly fluently, and you can communicate at least basic ideas to nearly everyone.
The frumious Bandersnatch
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
October 12 2012 08:25 GMT
#85
Funny how the blog about Germany turned into a discussion over beer brands.

Also I feel that the importance/deliciousness of bread is not stressed enough in this great blog.
German bread deserves a dedicated blog of it's own. Just ask every German living abroad (sup Dario).
11 years and counting- TL #680
HorstSchlemmer
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany114 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-12 09:30:34
October 12 2012 08:35 GMT
#86
As soon as someone asks about the "best" german beer, he'll get like a million different responses.
There are like 5000 different brands of german beer and depending on where you live and what you've grown up with, you'll have a totally different taste. Beware if someone says that Kölsch is the best beer though, he might be insane.

If you ever talk to a group of germans and ask them about the "best" beer, prepare yourself for a really long discussion.
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
October 12 2012 11:32 GMT
#87
Hmm what is the average wage in Germany?

I look at food items prices but they look on par with Australia which is notorious for high living costs but we do have slightly higher average income compare to US.
Rillanon.au
Rimstalker
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany734 Posts
October 12 2012 12:08 GMT
#88
On October 12 2012 20:32 haduken wrote:
Hmm what is the average wage in Germany?

I look at food items prices but they look on par with Australia which is notorious for high living costs but we do have slightly higher average income compare to US.


GDP is comparable AU vs. DE.

Some produce is laughably cheap in AU and expensive in Germany (squash for example)
Dairy products cost multiple times more in AU - in Germany, you can get a litre of milk at 40 cents. But rent is completely different, as AU is sprawling, everyone has his 1 story house made from wood with a garden around it.
Your internet is famously shitty and expensive. The price for bottled water in Australia is a ripoff, never saw it for less than 50 cents per liter, even if buying bulk.

Here be Dragons
GohgamX
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada1096 Posts
October 12 2012 13:35 GMT
#89
What a great thread topic. Now I want to travel to Germany and I have the heads up on whats going to hit me in my pocket. Whats the internet speed/costs like there?
Time is a great teacher, unfortunate that it kills all its pupils ...
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
October 12 2012 13:49 GMT
#90
These blogs are always so cool.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-12 14:06:25
October 12 2012 14:06 GMT
#91
On October 12 2012 22:35 GohgamX wrote:
What a great thread topic. Now I want to travel to Germany and I have the heads up on whats going to hit me in my pocket. Whats the internet speed/costs like there?


on average I'd say 25 to 30€ for a 16k download flatrate per month
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
October 12 2012 15:30 GMT
#92
On October 12 2012 20:32 haduken wrote:
Hmm what is the average wage in Germany?

I look at food items prices but they look on par with Australia which is notorious for high living costs but we do have slightly higher average income compare to US.


Local vs local is going to be a more apt comparison. I live in Los Angeles and prices here for some things are stupidly expensive. On the other hand, some places in the deep south in the US are almost like being in a third world country.

As for a price comparison, a very large pizza in Costco is around $10. Aspirin is $14.49 for 400 tablets. The Costco brand for Ibuprofen (the generic of Advil) is $9 for 1000 tablets. Can't believe aspirin is that expensive in Germany. It's over the counter here in the US.
archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
October 12 2012 15:34 GMT
#93
I'm thinking about visiting Germany but I've heard that the south of Germany has an easier dialect in terms of pronunciation and speed for foreigners with basic German as opposed to the north. Is it true?
I'm Quotable (IQ)
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
October 12 2012 16:08 GMT
#94
On October 13 2012 00:34 archonOOid wrote:
I'm thinking about visiting Germany but I've heard that the south of Germany has an easier dialect in terms of pronunciation and speed for foreigners with basic German as opposed to the north. Is it true?

I guess this is dependent on where you come from. As a foreigner you should learn High German though anyway, not a dialect.

In terms of understanding, any dialect will be difficult or impossible for a foreigner. Heck, many Germans have trouble understanding each others dialect.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
Shady Sands
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4021 Posts
October 12 2012 16:37 GMT
#95
On October 12 2012 16:51 Argoth. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 16:14 Shady Sands wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:29 Skilledblob wrote:
On October 12 2012 10:57 targ wrote:
hey zatic, I'm curious about something which is abit off topic.

so a few years back many of my friends went to Germany to do their undergrads. according to them studying there was free/very cheap (cannot remember which) as long as they passed some German exam. I wonder why Germany is so generous as to offer such cheap education to foreigners, as I've never heard of America/the UK giving such offers. is it to promote usage of the German language worldwide?


it's simply to give all kinds of people a shot at higher education regardless of the depth of their pockets.

The Goethe Institutes all around the world were founded to promote the german language

Dude Germany sounds awesome.

Btw, if I was to go spend a few months in Berlin, would it be easy for me to live there while only having a rudimentary (like 1 year of Uni) understanding of German?

Definitely. Most ppl speak English and for your daily grocery stuff, just grab a pocket dictionary. Hell you can even do your theoretical drivers licence test in your mother language....
Should be especially easy in Berlin as it has attracted quite a lot of ppl from foreign countries due to being a "stylish, hip, art and creative city".


Thanks! If I go it will probably be to work with the Samwer Brothers in the Rocket Internet incubator. Really admire the work they've done in speeding up execution across the consumer internet space

On October 12 2012 16:53 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 16:14 Shady Sands wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:29 Skilledblob wrote:
On October 12 2012 10:57 targ wrote:
hey zatic, I'm curious about something which is abit off topic.

so a few years back many of my friends went to Germany to do their undergrads. according to them studying there was free/very cheap (cannot remember which) as long as they passed some German exam. I wonder why Germany is so generous as to offer such cheap education to foreigners, as I've never heard of America/the UK giving such offers. is it to promote usage of the German language worldwide?


it's simply to give all kinds of people a shot at higher education regardless of the depth of their pockets.

The Goethe Institutes all around the world were founded to promote the german language

Dude Germany sounds awesome.

Btw, if I was to go spend a few months in Berlin, would it be easy for me to live there while only having a rudimentary (like 1 year of Uni) understanding of German?

You can get by in Germany with even less understanding of German than that. Pretty much anyone here with a college education speaks English at least fairly fluently, and you can communicate at least basic ideas to nearly everyone.


Got it. Thanks a ton =)
Что?
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
October 12 2012 16:58 GMT
#96
On October 13 2012 01:08 zatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 00:34 archonOOid wrote:
I'm thinking about visiting Germany but I've heard that the south of Germany has an easier dialect in terms of pronunciation and speed for foreigners with basic German as opposed to the north. Is it true?

I guess this is dependent on where you come from. As a foreigner you should learn High German though anyway, not a dialect.

In terms of understanding, any dialect will be difficult or impossible for a foreigner. Heck, many Germans have trouble understanding each others dialect.


Are these dialects just different accents and minor variations in vocabulary or are they completely different languages like in say, China, India, the Philippines, etc.?
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
October 12 2012 17:10 GMT
#97
On October 13 2012 01:58 andrewlt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 01:08 zatic wrote:
On October 13 2012 00:34 archonOOid wrote:
I'm thinking about visiting Germany but I've heard that the south of Germany has an easier dialect in terms of pronunciation and speed for foreigners with basic German as opposed to the north. Is it true?

I guess this is dependent on where you come from. As a foreigner you should learn High German though anyway, not a dialect.

In terms of understanding, any dialect will be difficult or impossible for a foreigner. Heck, many Germans have trouble understanding each others dialect.


Are these dialects just different accents and minor variations in vocabulary or are they completely different languages like in say, China, India, the Philippines, etc.?

They are dialects. Minor differences in vocabulary, but major differences in pronunciation to the point that people have trouble understanding strong dialects from different regions.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-12 17:21:00
October 12 2012 17:17 GMT
#98
On October 13 2012 01:58 andrewlt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 01:08 zatic wrote:
On October 13 2012 00:34 archonOOid wrote:
I'm thinking about visiting Germany but I've heard that the south of Germany has an easier dialect in terms of pronunciation and speed for foreigners with basic German as opposed to the north. Is it true?

I guess this is dependent on where you come from. As a foreigner you should learn High German though anyway, not a dialect.

In terms of understanding, any dialect will be difficult or impossible for a foreigner. Heck, many Germans have trouble understanding each others dialect.


Are these dialects just different accents and minor variations in vocabulary or are they completely different languages like in say, China, India, the Philippines, etc.?


the dialects can be very different because some of them are based on different germanic language subfamilies. THe devide is north and south here. While northern germany speaks dialects closer to what we call "high german" the dialects of the southern parts of germany belong to another language family, which makes it hard for northerners to understand people from the south
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-12 18:57:23
October 12 2012 18:54 GMT
#99
On October 13 2012 02:17 Skilledblob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 01:58 andrewlt wrote:
On October 13 2012 01:08 zatic wrote:
On October 13 2012 00:34 archonOOid wrote:
I'm thinking about visiting Germany but I've heard that the south of Germany has an easier dialect in terms of pronunciation and speed for foreigners with basic German as opposed to the north. Is it true?

I guess this is dependent on where you come from. As a foreigner you should learn High German though anyway, not a dialect.

In terms of understanding, any dialect will be difficult or impossible for a foreigner. Heck, many Germans have trouble understanding each others dialect.


Are these dialects just different accents and minor variations in vocabulary or are they completely different languages like in say, China, India, the Philippines, etc.?


the dialects can be very different because some of them are based on different germanic language subfamilies. THe devide is north and south here. While northern germany speaks dialects closer to what we call "high german" the dialects of the southern parts of germany belong to another language family, which makes it hard for northerners to understand people from the south


That's just plain wrong.

Language families
German dialects.
11 years and counting- TL #680
Firlefanz
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany245 Posts
October 12 2012 19:04 GMT
#100
I think you shouldn't worry too much about dialects. High German is way more common amongst young people (+ they'll understand you way better than the older ones).
I'm from Munich and Bavarian is something like a first foreign language here (almost a 100% of the city people learn High German first or are able to express themselves in High German).
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