• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:24
CEST 13:24
KST 20:24
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting10[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4)5
Community News
Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou5Weekly Cups (Oct 13-19): Clem Goes for Four0BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET6Weekly Cups (Oct 6-12): Four star herO85.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)80
StarCraft 2
General
Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou The New Patch Killed Mech! Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy herO joins T1 Weekly Cups (Oct 13-19): Clem Goes for Four
Tourneys
SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 INu's Battles #13 - ByuN vs Zoun Tenacious Turtle Tussle Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $1,200 WardiTV October (Oct 21st-31st)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment Mutation # 493 Quick Killers
Brood War
General
Is there anyway to get a private coach? BSL Season 21 OGN to release AI-upscaled StarLeague from Feb 24 BW caster Sayle BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Semifinal B SC4ALL $1,500 Open Bracket LAN Azhi's Colosseum - Anonymous Tournament
Strategy
[I] TvZ Strategies and Builds [I] TvP Strategies and Build Roaring Currents ASL final Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV ZeroSpace Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread The Chess Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Men's Fashion Thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Series you have seen recently... Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Certified Crazy
Hildegard
The Heroism of Pepe the Fro…
Peanutsc
Rocket League: Traits, Abili…
TrAiDoS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1539 users

Achieving Nothing

Blogs > AsmodeusXI
Post a Reply
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
September 24 2012 21:24 GMT
#1
Hey, TL. Here is today's new N3rd Dimension post, discussing moronic achievements. Well... pointless moronic achievements. There's far more in the first category.

Let me be very clear: I love Achievements (trophies, w/e you call them). Having a meta-game running throughout all of your gaming experiences adds an additional level of competition that, while not stimulating from a gameplay standpoint, is totally worthwhile. There are some people who take achievements very seriously and more power to them – everyone needs a hobby. Especially with extremely difficult tasks in games, getting rewarded beyond “Hey you did it!” is very cool. Certainly, achievements shouldn’t be touted as a feature – they don’t actually add anything. If you don’t care about achievements, then you never should have to. Unlocking achievements shouldn’t be keys to unlocking content. They’re simply extra bits if you want to play the IRL Achievement Game (it should be noted here that I think gamification is pretty damn awesome).

On the other hand, there are achievements that are there for no explainable reason. For example, I recently bought Persona 4 Arena (since I will buy anything and everything Persona related, possibly multiple times). It’s a fighter, and I’m sure it has plenty of “legitimate” achievements (I honestly haven’t looked) for regular, game-beat-y kinds of things. However, upon making it to the title screen, I see my first achievement pop up: “Welcome to the Midnight Channel (10 p).” AKA “Congratulations! You bought and turned on P4A.”

…

This has two potential implications.

1) The Developers think you need a pat on the back immediately upon starting the game. That the player is so desperate for an accolade that they need to give you one immediately upon starting so you won’t weep at your own inadequacy. So they give you a free one to whet your appetite, keep you invested, and get you psyched to lodge more points on your account. Like a crack dealer.

2) The Developers think that you turning on your console and putting in their game is a very real accomplishment for you. Congratulations! You’ve managed to extricate yourself from the cave-like indentation you’ve impacted in your couch long enough to clean the Cheetos dust and Red Bull drops off of your hands, shakily limp over to the XBox to slide in our game, and depress the goddamn ON button. And you did it without developing a hernia or having a heart attack, though undoubtedly the sweat has soaked through your faded, yellowing Halo T-shirt.

When you start the game, you have accomplished nothing. This robs achievements of the only merit they have because now they mean literally nothing, since you get one entirely without effort. That’s bad enough.

And then there’s this bullshit.


Read on at the N3rd Dimension.

*
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
11:00
October Qualifier #1
WardiTV341
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
OGKoka 358
Rex 93
Lowko77
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 24545
Calm 5316
Rain 2837
Hyuk 1934
Horang2 1441
Flash 1083
Bisu 1033
firebathero 613
Jaedong 505
Larva 333
[ Show more ]
actioN 306
Soma 214
ZerO 208
Light 201
sSak 172
Stork 162
Pusan 152
Killer 126
BeSt 123
PianO 123
EffOrt 115
Hyun 97
Mini 72
Snow 68
TY 51
ggaemo 44
Rush 43
soO 32
Shinee 30
Free 25
Movie 23
Sharp 22
sorry 22
Bale 19
Noble 19
Liquid`Ret 17
Sacsri 15
Yoon 12
HiyA 10
Shine 8
Hm[arnc] 2
Mong 1
Dota 2
XaKoH 456
XcaliburYe185
Fuzer 112
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1953
shoxiejesuss940
zeus357
allub282
oskar68
Other Games
summit1g7543
singsing1716
B2W.Neo507
Mew2King70
Trikslyr31
ZerO(Twitch)12
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick667
Counter-Strike
PGL419
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 36
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 4
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV341
League of Legends
• Jankos2880
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
3h 6m
PiGosaur Monday
12h 36m
Replay Cast
22h 36m
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
1d 11h
The PondCast
1d 22h
OSC
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
Online Event
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Snow vs Soma
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
CrankTV Team League
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Wardi Open
6 days
CrankTV Team League
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS2
WardiTV TLMC #15
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
EC S1
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
RSL Offline Finals
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
CranK Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.