• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 11:02
CET 17:02
KST 01:02
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT24Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book16Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0226LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)46Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker16
StarCraft 2
General
Liquipedia WCS Portal Launched ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Kaelaris on the futue of SC2 and much more... How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) How do the "codes" work in GSL? Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16) Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 512 Overclocked Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion A new season just kicks off BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ CasterMuse Youtube TvZ is the most complete match up
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Diablo 2 thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Inside the Communication of …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1739 users

Practice Partners in SC2

Blogs > Thaniri
Post a Reply
Thaniri
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1264 Posts
September 07 2012 04:54 GMT
#1
Practice partners in SC2 seems to be rather terrible, at least on NA server (I am trying to determine how good it is on KR, but due to timezone differences it is hard.)

When I want to practice, I want to play 20 games in a row of TvZ 5:30 roach rush versus 1 rax expand with 16 gas. Or 10 games of macro TvT on Daybreak bio vs mech. In short, very long and specific practice. I also am more than willing to return the favour.

Over a long period of time in SC2, I have only gotten the opportunity to really practice like this twice. Once probably a year ago where I played 30 games a day of Kas' 3 tank push in TvZ on Metalopolis for a weekend, and once a month or so ago where I played 15 games in a row of 1 rax expand in TvP vs 4 Gate Blink Obs (which is unbeatable I'm pretty sure.)

I don't know if I expect more out of my practice partners than is realistic though. I'm a highschool kid, who plays SC2 as long as there is no homework to be done. A lot of people have jobs, have to pay rent, go to college and have a part time job. None of us are progamers, and it is likely that none of us ever will. Yet this is the type of practice that I like, and that I want to do.

Practice clans periodically advertise themselves every few months saying how dedicated they will be. Being in the channel and available all day every day, so on and so forth. I have even tried organizing a group like this, but there is a problem. No-one does it. The channels lie empty, and it is frustrating to try and practice with someone who you clearly outclass, or for them if they completely outclass you.

The Practice Partner thread is rubbish. No-one is online, and I have never had a truly dedicated practice partner from there. Perhaps it is luck of the draw?

Ladder opponents, well, they want to ladder. If you ask for help, you get a few short words on what you could have done better, and off to another game they go. You might get 1 or 2 games, but it never lasts long.

A team is great, however it is not all rosebushes and flower petals. During clan wars or team leagues, the person playing is in the muted channel on ventrilo while the rest critique him. This is no help for the person playing, because he gets none of the feedback, and once the game has been played the next one has to go so actually talking to the player gets thrown to the wayside. Team practice is no commitment, people can choose to not go, or to just continue to ladder or do a playhem or something.

The worst thing, and that which is completely out of my control (hah, as if any of the rest of it was within my control somehow) is when you get someone who is willing to play as many games as you... but you destroy him 20 games in a row, or he destroys you 20 games in a row. The person executing the mauling learns nothing, while it is great for the weaker player, the practice is only 50% effective.

Which is one of the reasons why a lot of people do not want to constantly do the same build or strategy for someone elses benefit. They don't learn anything from it, what's in it for them? How can I convince them that what I offer in return is worth their time?

I don't know, I know I should just continue laddering, as that is the most consistent way to find an evenly matched opponent repeatedly.

*
ktimekiller
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States690 Posts
September 07 2012 06:59 GMT
#2
Hit me up, dorrussaga.417
Trufflez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia174 Posts
September 07 2012 07:55 GMT
#3
what level are you at? no matter what I'll play with you. I'm not very good but I personally think smashing somebody 25 games in a row with one build is excellent for mechanics, and of course getting smashed is useful, so I'm up for a practice partner of any level. Cassius.922
The winnings in life go to the people who show up.
AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
September 07 2012 13:20 GMT
#4
What level are you at? I'm gold and would love to practice some builds! After the idiocy of bronze and silver, I've almost forgotten what a standard game should look like.
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
Xtal
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Haiti385 Posts
September 10 2012 07:15 GMT
#5
Hey thaniri,

I added you on sc2. I havent seen you on altely though, but if I do id love to get soem game sin and practice 20 games just like you were mentioning :D

send me a pm?
Have you ever heard the story, about the Zergling and the Probe? The Probe didn't make it across the creep.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Epic.LAN
12:00
#47 - Day 1
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
trigger 42
Harstem 36
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 3360
Rain 1531
Hyuk 663
Mini 383
Shuttle 280
actioN 207
Hyun 162
EffOrt 161
Rush 141
ggaemo 133
[ Show more ]
PianO 119
Dewaltoss 112
hero 91
JulyZerg 91
JYJ 90
Backho 60
Sea.KH 57
[sc1f]eonzerg 52
Barracks 51
Mind 51
Aegong 46
sSak 38
Movie 21
Rock 19
yabsab 15
Shine 13
ivOry 9
Britney 1
Dota 2
Gorgc6758
qojqva1257
canceldota29
Counter-Strike
fl0m3935
shoxiejesuss2458
byalli477
Heroes of the Storm
crisheroes274
MindelVK16
Other Games
singsing2217
B2W.Neo958
hiko713
Lowko364
DeMusliM287
Fuzer 231
Liquid`VortiX154
XaKoH 144
Hui .105
djWHEAT92
Trikslyr56
QueenE51
ArmadaUGS32
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL45791
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• poizon28 15
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 1
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV424
• lizZardDota237
League of Legends
• Nemesis3244
• Jankos1463
• TFBlade846
Upcoming Events
Big Brain Bouts
59m
Harstem vs MaNa
Reynor vs SKillous
Replay Cast
7h 59m
PiG Sty Festival
16h 59m
herO vs NightMare
Reynor vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
17h 59m
Epic.LAN
19h 59m
Replay Cast
1d 7h
PiG Sty Festival
1d 16h
Serral vs YoungYakov
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 17h
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-19
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Escore Tournament S1: King of Kings
WardiTV Winter 2026
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round Qualifier
Acropolis #4 - TS5
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026: China & Korea Invitational
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.