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On September 03 2012 17:02 Shady Sands wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2012 16:52 Azera wrote:
Making the thread now. Any useful links you guys want me to include in the OP? nflonline.org link to US high school debating society probably also split the article into 4 sections by debating format-- LD, Policy, Public Forum, and Parliamentary
As I said I don't really have much knowledge about the formats, and it's going to be hard to hold a debate online with those formats. I'll PM what I have at the moment. Still deciding how quick-fire rounds are gonna work.
Thanks anyway! 
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On September 03 2012 16:52 Azera wrote:
Making the thread now. Any useful links you guys want me to include in the OP?
Well it is important we make a distinction between what sort of scope we are talking. In terms of high school debate in the United States, competition forms usually adhere to one of four standards:
Lincoln-Douglas Debate, being the OG form based on the 1858 hallmark exchanges between Abraham Lincoln and Stephen Douglas
Policy Debate, a fast paced, content centric debate that puts an emphasis on extended source supported position and cross examination over delivery or rigor
Public Forum Debate, inspired by the old CNN show Crossfire, this form focuses on effective, concise delivery in addition to impromptu adversarial questioning in crossfire rounds
Parliamentary Debate, a logic focused form that prohibits quoted evidence and relies on pure persuasion through logical exposition. Questions are allowed but can be ignored by either side at their behest, very much unlike the other three.
We should pick a conventional form and tailor it to forum standards. Use word counts instead of time limits or something like that.
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Probably going to be Parliamentary Debate but with no questions.
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+ Show Spoiler +TL Debates - How is this different from just having random discussion?
- It doesn't differ from random discussion that much, but you will be able to easily find high quality arguments from the "official speakers", so you can easily filter through the bad posts to find the good ones.
- How will this work?
- 2 Teams, 4 people per team. Teams will work together via PMs. People can register by sending me a PM asking to be either the Proposition or Opposition. Only when you are officially registered will I send you a PM of the motion.
- What you just said sounds messy!
- Teams will not post their speeches on the thread itself. After I have given the teams the motion, each speaker must send their speeches to me via PM after 48 hours. I will consolidate all the speeches into one post and post it here. The motion will be released along with the first round of speeches. All speeches will be open to criticism. 72 hours after the first set of speeches are released, teams must send me another round of speeches. This will then be released along with a poll open to the public to decide the winner.
- Let the public decide the winner? Sounds ridiculous!
- Yes, but for now it is what it is. When things start going maybe I will be able to find 3 judges to determine the winner.
General Rules
- Speeches should be no longer than 1000 words long.
- No ad hominem.
what i have so far
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On September 03 2012 17:19 Azera wrote:+ Show Spoiler +TL Debates - How is this different from just having random discussion?
- It doesn't differ from random discussion that much, but you will be able to easily find high quality arguments from the "official speakers", so you can easily filter through the bad posts to find the good ones.
- How will this work?
- 2 Teams, 4 people per team. Teams will work together via PMs. People can register by sending me a PM asking to be either the Proposition or Opposition. Only when you are officially registered will I send you a PM of the motion.
- What you just said sounds messy!
- Teams will not post their speeches on the thread itself. After I have given the teams the motion, each speaker must send their speeches to me via PM after 48 hours. I will consolidate all the speeches into one post and post it here. The motion will be released along with the first round of speeches. All speeches will be open to criticism. 72 hours after the first set of speeches are released, teams must send me another round of speeches. This will then be released along with a poll open to the public to decide the winner.
- Let the public decide the winner? Sounds ridiculous!
- Yes, but for now it is what it is. When things start going maybe I will be able to find 3 judges to determine the winner.
General Rules
- Speeches should be no longer than 1000 words long.
- No ad hominem.
what i have so far
How many speeches per round, and when you say that the motion will be released in the first round, does that mean the topic is unknown to the thread previous?
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Yes. New motions are unknown until the first round of speeches are released.
4 speeches per team, 8 speeches in all. 8 speeches make a set. Only 2 sets of speeches until debate is concluded.
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On September 03 2012 17:24 Azera wrote:
Yes. New motions are unknown until the first round of speeches are released.
4 speeches per team, 8 speeches in all. 8 speeches make a set. Only 2 sets of speeches until debate is concluded.
I feel like there may be too great a possibility of redundancy with so little back and forth amongst 8 speeches, maybe more splitting so we get at least some clash? And to emphasize the nature of a "rebuttal" it might make sense to reduce the second round in size and require each team to choose its two best "speakers". Just my two cents
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On September 03 2012 17:28 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2012 17:24 Azera wrote:
Yes. New motions are unknown until the first round of speeches are released.
4 speeches per team, 8 speeches in all. 8 speeches make a set. Only 2 sets of speeches until debate is concluded. I feel like there may be too great a possibility of redundancy with so little back and forth amongst 8 speeches, maybe more splitting so we get at least some clash? And to emphasize the nature of a "rebuttal" it might make sense to reduce the second round in size and require each team to choose its two best "speakers". Just my two cents
Sounds like a great idea!
It's kinda hard to get the "clash" into this, I'll mull over it.
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This story is quite perfect romance.
So envious!
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On September 03 2012 11:45 TehTemplar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2012 11:41 Aerisky wrote:Oh I see. Your poor parents.  Yeah your guys' lives are way more interesting than mine. Maybe one day something crazy will happen to me that's worth sharing. Don't worry, your life is more interesting than mine :D
you worked with the legendary FlaShFTW on ur sc2 maps. the interesting part of your day was when you heard him say "SHITTY THIRDS!"
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Once in a while, perhaps only a few times a year
Someone is born, someone special. One of the unlikely few to become e-famous on TL for something other than starcraft. These brave souls are armed with qualities that us mere mortals only dream of.
Qualities such as socialising, being cool and an interesting person, or being able to post 300 times a week
That person lies right in front of us right now.
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On September 04 2012 00:08 BrTarolg wrote:
Once in a while, perhaps only a few times a year
Someone is born, someone special. One of the unlikely few to become e-famous on TL for something other than starcraft. These brave souls are armed with qualities that us mere mortals only dream of.
Qualities such as socialising, being cool and an interesting person, or being able to post 300 times a week
That person lies right in front of us right now.
He still hasnt passed the test of time though.
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On September 04 2012 08:38 Azera wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 00:08 BrTarolg wrote:
Once in a while, perhaps only a few times a year
Someone is born, someone special. One of the unlikely few to become e-famous on TL for something other than starcraft. These brave souls are armed with qualities that us mere mortals only dream of.
Qualities such as socialising, being cool and an interesting person, or being able to post 300 times a week
That person lies right in front of us right now.
He still hasnt passed the test of time though.
Who has?
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On September 04 2012 08:39 Shady Sands wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 08:38 Azera wrote:On September 04 2012 00:08 BrTarolg wrote:
Once in a while, perhaps only a few times a year
Someone is born, someone special. One of the unlikely few to become e-famous on TL for something other than starcraft. These brave souls are armed with qualities that us mere mortals only dream of.
Qualities such as socialising, being cool and an interesting person, or being able to post 300 times a week
That person lies right in front of us right now.
He still hasnt passed the test of time though. Who has?
Torte and Probe1
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Even I ran out of steam for my daily blogs after a month or so.
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On September 04 2012 00:08 BrTarolg wrote:
Once in a while, perhaps only a few times a year
Someone is born, someone special. One of the unlikely few to become e-famous on TL for something other than starcraft. These brave souls are armed with qualities that us mere mortals only dream of.
Qualities such as socialising, being cool and an interesting person, or being able to post 300 times a week
That person lies right in front of us right now.
600 last week. I even PMed him about it, but he ignored me. I felt slighted. 
To: Shady Sands [ Profile | Buddy | Report ] Subject: o___O Date: 8/29/12 11:56 Show nested quote +Average Posts Per Day 17.18
Average Posts Per Week 120.26
Posts made in the last week 608 Holy fuck.
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On September 04 2012 10:22 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2012 00:08 BrTarolg wrote:
Once in a while, perhaps only a few times a year
Someone is born, someone special. One of the unlikely few to become e-famous on TL for something other than starcraft. These brave souls are armed with qualities that us mere mortals only dream of.
Qualities such as socialising, being cool and an interesting person, or being able to post 300 times a week
That person lies right in front of us right now.
600 last week. I even PMed him about it, but he ignored me. I felt slighted. Show nested quote +To: Shady Sands [ Profile | Buddy | Report ] Subject: o___O Date: 8/29/12 11:56 Average Posts Per Day 17.18
Average Posts Per Week 120.26
Posts made in the last week 608 Holy fuck.
Sorry man didn't mean to ignore ya... couldn't think of a reply and got too busy to check the PM queue again
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That hussy.
It must have felt awesome to pay. Nice read, thanks.
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