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First things first: I know it's bad to quit one job without having another one ready.
I worked here for exactly 3 years now and when i started, i had energy, an ok private life and i was physically quite fit, now i'm a human wreck, burnt out, phone contact list has only one entry ("work") and i gained 40 pounds, so it's unlikely that another company will hire me in my current state. I have programming knowledge that rivals R1CHs but i just don't have any energy left to offer.
However, i also know that nothing will change as long as i work here, so maybe after a month off from work it will be better. I told myself for the last year "ok, tomorrow i'll apply for another job" but whenever i get home i can't get anything done anymore. Then again, even at work i can't get anything done anymore. I'm working since a month on a project that would have taken me a week just a year or two ago.
So the question is: Stay in this job for the rest of my life or quit now and maybe end up unemployed for some time?
  
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I will first say that is a bold move claiming to rival R1CH with programming knowledge!
Second honestly when you get off work you should just force yourself to apply. No matter how tired or whatever excuse you come up with ignore it and just apply.
I personally wouldn't ever chance being unemployed if I can help it as to me that would be very, very stressful assuming you are living on your own and you would have to worry about bills and get a job fast or you won't be able to pay rent/etc.
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Be a contractor and free lance. Wtf why are you worrying about getting a job if you == R1CH?
Seriously though, YOU should never ever stay in one job for your whole life.
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Maybe take a break/some leave, and apply to some other jobs while you are on that break? If you really are that burnt out, you definitely should try to get well-rested before applying to other jobs. That's really a shame  keep us posted, would be a shame to feel your life sucked away at such a job.
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Drop it and use the "hang" time for relaxation and thoroughly search for a new job with way better conditions. Obviously you should always hunt for "joyness" in a job than rather a "quick" new job. Gor for it, take your time. You Sir really sound like somebody that is not happy with his current situation.
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during your spare time, force yourself to go out and socialize, see if that helps
it did for me
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On August 27 2012 16:27 blade55555 wrote:
I will first say that is a bold move claiming to rival R1CH with programming knowledge!
Second honestly when you get off work you should just force yourself to apply. No matter how tired or whatever excuse you come up with ignore it and just apply.
I personally wouldn't ever chance being unemployed if I can help it as to me that would be very, very stressful assuming you are living on your own and you would have to worry about bills and get a job fast or you won't be able to pay rent/etc.
That is an answer i expected. I tried to force myself to a lot of stuff but forcing yourself takes more energy than i have.
I hate unemployment, i've been unemployed for 1-6 month several times during my career (i'm 30 btw, so it's not like it's my first job), but at this point everything would be better than hoping every single day to get hit by a car on the way to work.
On August 27 2012 16:39 pluu.mooh wrote:
Drop it and use the "hang" time for relaxation and thoroughly search for a new job with way better conditions. Obviously you should always hunt for "joyness" in a job than rather a "quick" new job. Gor for it, take your time. You Sir really sound like somebody that is not happy with his current situation.
I faintly remember happyness but it's been a while.
I think i'll make an appointment with my boss later today and quit to get it over with. It can't get worse.
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Wow, hope you're prepared and/or are able to find a better job.
Best of luck man. Feeling like your soul has been crushed is not a great feeling to have at only 30. Whatever happens, I hope it turns out for the best >_<
Tauchsieder is that true?! O_O whoa
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You live in Germany, right? Go to a Psychologist, let him attest your burnout, show it to your employer and by regualtions he is forced to let you off work for at least 3 weeks, to go to a health resort. Payed!
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On August 27 2012 16:55 Morfildur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 16:27 blade55555 wrote:
I will first say that is a bold move claiming to rival R1CH with programming knowledge!
Second honestly when you get off work you should just force yourself to apply. No matter how tired or whatever excuse you come up with ignore it and just apply.
I personally wouldn't ever chance being unemployed if I can help it as to me that would be very, very stressful assuming you are living on your own and you would have to worry about bills and get a job fast or you won't be able to pay rent/etc. That is an answer i expected. I tried to force myself to a lot of stuff but forcing yourself takes more energy than i have. I hate unemployment, i've been unemployed for 1-6 month several times during my career (i'm 30 btw, so it's not like it's my first job), but at this point everything would be better than hoping every single day to get hit by a car on the way to work. Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 16:39 pluu.mooh wrote:
Drop it and use the "hang" time for relaxation and thoroughly search for a new job with way better conditions. Obviously you should always hunt for "joyness" in a job than rather a "quick" new job. Gor for it, take your time. You Sir really sound like somebody that is not happy with his current situation. I faintly remember happyness but it's been a while. I think i'll make an appointment with my boss later today and quit to get it over with. It can't get worse.
Well I should have asked this. Let's say you quit your job would you have to move back somewhere? If not how long could you remain in your current place before you would go broke?
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if you have worked hard for 3 years and you have some money saved up, you totally deserve a break man! 
take a vacation? travel? (cheaply, imo) relax and play some sc2 man ahahah if you can afford to chill for a bit, you should!
On August 27 2012 16:57 Tauchsieder wrote:
You live in Germany, right? Go to a Psychologist, let him attest your burnout, show it to your employer and by regualtions he is forced to let you off work for at least 3 weeks, to go to a health resort. Payed!
O_O
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On August 27 2012 17:00 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 16:55 Morfildur wrote:On August 27 2012 16:27 blade55555 wrote:
I will first say that is a bold move claiming to rival R1CH with programming knowledge!
Second honestly when you get off work you should just force yourself to apply. No matter how tired or whatever excuse you come up with ignore it and just apply.
I personally wouldn't ever chance being unemployed if I can help it as to me that would be very, very stressful assuming you are living on your own and you would have to worry about bills and get a job fast or you won't be able to pay rent/etc. That is an answer i expected. I tried to force myself to a lot of stuff but forcing yourself takes more energy than i have. I hate unemployment, i've been unemployed for 1-6 month several times during my career (i'm 30 btw, so it's not like it's my first job), but at this point everything would be better than hoping every single day to get hit by a car on the way to work. On August 27 2012 16:39 pluu.mooh wrote:
Drop it and use the "hang" time for relaxation and thoroughly search for a new job with way better conditions. Obviously you should always hunt for "joyness" in a job than rather a "quick" new job. Gor for it, take your time. You Sir really sound like somebody that is not happy with his current situation. I faintly remember happyness but it's been a while. I think i'll make an appointment with my boss later today and quit to get it over with. It can't get worse. Well I should have asked this. Let's say you quit your job would you have to move back somewhere? If not how long could you remain in your current place before you would go broke?
I would get paid 3 month or so from the unemployment agency or however it translates to english. That is enough time to find a job. In that time i also would quit my flat and probably move back into one of the spare flats my parents own.
If i still don't have a job after that, the german social security can provide me for some time.
In germany, being unemployed/Losing your job is not as bad as in the US, though yes, we pay quite a big chunk of our wages for that safety.
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On August 27 2012 17:08 Morfildur wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 17:00 blade55555 wrote:On August 27 2012 16:55 Morfildur wrote:On August 27 2012 16:27 blade55555 wrote:
I will first say that is a bold move claiming to rival R1CH with programming knowledge!
Second honestly when you get off work you should just force yourself to apply. No matter how tired or whatever excuse you come up with ignore it and just apply.
I personally wouldn't ever chance being unemployed if I can help it as to me that would be very, very stressful assuming you are living on your own and you would have to worry about bills and get a job fast or you won't be able to pay rent/etc. That is an answer i expected. I tried to force myself to a lot of stuff but forcing yourself takes more energy than i have. I hate unemployment, i've been unemployed for 1-6 month several times during my career (i'm 30 btw, so it's not like it's my first job), but at this point everything would be better than hoping every single day to get hit by a car on the way to work. On August 27 2012 16:39 pluu.mooh wrote:
Drop it and use the "hang" time for relaxation and thoroughly search for a new job with way better conditions. Obviously you should always hunt for "joyness" in a job than rather a "quick" new job. Gor for it, take your time. You Sir really sound like somebody that is not happy with his current situation. I faintly remember happyness but it's been a while. I think i'll make an appointment with my boss later today and quit to get it over with. It can't get worse. Well I should have asked this. Let's say you quit your job would you have to move back somewhere? If not how long could you remain in your current place before you would go broke? I would get paid 3 month or so from the unemployment agency or however it translates to english. That is enough time to find a job. In that time i also would quit my flat and probably move back into one of the spare flats my parents own. If i still don't have a job after that, the german social security can provide me for some time. In germany, being unemployed/Losing your job is not as bad as in the US, though yes, we pay quite a big chunk of our wages for that safety.
Ah yeah I mean for me personally once I move out (not moved out yet finishing college) I would hate to move back to my parents house xD. I mean if that's fine with you and everything then I would say go for it.
I know my dad went through something similar to you before he found a kickass job where he doesn't have like any stress or anything anymore (IT field but not programming). He was getting burnt out as he had to work a ton + take care of me and my brother and was very stressed with paying bills, getting food, etc and he told me he was so close to being burnt out that he almost didn't care about anything anymore due to all the stress and what not.
Then he got a job interview, made 30k more then he did in the previous job and he's never been happier. He never quit his job but he would have if it wasn't for me and my bro.
Hopefully everything works out for you and if you end up quitting can find a job fast!
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On August 27 2012 16:57 Tauchsieder wrote:
You live in Germany, right? Go to a Psychologist, let him attest your burnout, show it to your employer and by regualtions he is forced to let you off work for at least 3 weeks, to go to a health resort. Payed!
^^ This
If you're seriously burnt out, then you should do something about it. If you have the skills, then get another job. Look for something that interests you, apply for an engineering position in a new city.
It seems you just want a change of pace, well why not have a change of scenery as well.
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Take a month off man... energy is very important in landing a new job, more so if you're 'young but willing to learn'. If you were given an intership right now at google ( Just an example) , you would risk getting kicked right away due to being burnt out. 'Sort out your mental state, then go full throtle! :D
glgl~
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On August 27 2012 16:57 Tauchsieder wrote:
You live in Germany, right? Go to a Psychologist, let him attest your burnout, show it to your employer and by regualtions he is forced to let you off work for at least 3 weeks, to go to a health resort. Payed!
It's not as easy as you make it sound like. And from what I know about his employer, this seems like a very risky route to take. Morfildur could very well end up stuck in a law suit if his employer is a cunt about it - which is probably the last thing he wants right now.
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Sounds like you need a vacation from work. If you really hate your job then plan your exit out. Also try to be motivated to do things, start with small things and build from there.
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Instead of trying to change everything at once - job, stresslevel, housing arrangements, social life, body form etc. - why not change just one or two smaller things at the time?
So start by eating and sleeping properly. That should give you more energy. Then move on to training 2-3 times a week when you feel your eating and sleeping comes naturally. When training is "normal" to you and not a chore move on to solve the next problem and then the next. (This is just an example. You could start with your job and then move to something else)
I'm not in your situation but I feel overwhelmed by the task you have in front of you changing your entire life.
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I honestly get so discouraged by blogs like this...
I tell myself that my life will turn around once I get a decent job, but seeing blogs like this make me realize landing the job is only the first step...T_T
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On August 27 2012 17:50 Dirkzor wrote:
Instead of trying to change everything at once - job, stresslevel, housing arrangements, social life, body form etc. - why not change just one or two smaller things at the time?
So start by eating and sleeping properly. That should give you more energy. Then move on to training 2-3 times a week when you feel your eating and sleeping comes naturally. When training is "normal" to you and not a chore move on to solve the next problem and then the next. (This is just an example. You could start with your job and then move to something else)
I'm not in your situation but I feel overwhelmed by the task you have in front of you changing your entire life.
This
From the look of it the concept of overhauling your life and getting back on track and quitting your job and looking for a new one and deciding to move houses seems like a daunting task
so break it down
easiest shit to do would be getting the sleep you need and eating healthy like Dirkzor said this will result in more energy (in theory) this shouldn't be difficult to do barring loss of appertite (and from the gaining 40 pounds doesn't sound like you have) or extreme amounts of stress not allowing you to sleep.
Once you've got that shit down you can start working out again an extention of healthy eating that you conquered earlier you'll have lost weight and be in better shape to get back into working out, and as he said then you move on to the next small problem
if you can't seem to find the energy all I can really say is just fucking do it, call upon some unknown reserve that doesnt exist and just fucking do it, do it every time you need to until it doesn't become a burden
and also it sounds like you're not enjoying yourself much, sometimes just go do something you enjoy and fuck all the problems they'll still be there waiting for you after you've had some fun and feel better
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