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The Other Side of Me; Playing the Piano

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NoMicroWin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States688 Posts
August 22 2012 08:14 GMT
#1
Hi TL. This is my second blog, and unlike my first blog which was ridden with sadness and feelings of dejection, this one is a happy blog about what I consider my "real life." I have been involved with music ever since I could remember, as my mother was a music teacher and I went to Church every Sunday. As I grew older, my choices became more limited for what I wanted to do and what I could do successfully, and it lead me back to my roots in Music.

Now, I went to alternative school from the time i was 6 until I was 16, with there being anywhere from 15-25 kids year by year, and 4-5 teachers, one of them being my mother (awkwerrd). Due to econmic difficulties and high tuition, the school was forced to end its curriculum for most students, including myself. This is when I decided to enter Community (junior) College at 17 (What would have been my senior year) and Graduated with a 3.42 GPA and an Associates Of Science in Music.

Now, I bring you my first video of me playing a solo performance, Beethoven's Pathetique Sonata, Opus 13, No. 8, 1st Movement

I apologize for the sub-par quality, cameras just aren't really all that good for this stuff.



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If she pulls out her stalkers, you pull out your mauraders and concussive all over her tits
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1717 Posts
August 22 2012 10:46 GMT
#2
I'm about to watch the video, but an important note- never put an apology in the description. Either upload something you're happy with and stand by it, or don't upload it. Even if it is just for the camera quality, it's still a real mistake.
EleGant[AoV]
Monsyphon
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada190 Posts
August 22 2012 10:54 GMT
#3
I like your emphasis and dramatic tone. Pathetique is one of my favorite pieces, the 2nd movement being my favorite
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
August 22 2012 11:12 GMT
#4
Very impressive! Do you play for anyone (band, orchestra, etc?)
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Anachromy
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States194 Posts
August 22 2012 13:10 GMT
#5
Nicely Done NoMi, Didn't know there were 2 Pianists in the NESC2 League
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
August 22 2012 13:44 GMT
#6
Generally speaking, there isn't enough dynamic contrast (just seems like it's always between somewhat loud to very loud, or if you prefer, between mf and ff), and there are too many unnecessary accents/emphasis on mid-passage notes that break up the phrases. You don't have to destroy the piano to make the audience feel the impact, you just need to increase the contrast. I received the exact same criticism at a Kiwanis when I was a little kid, and it stuck with me a long time. Hope it helps!
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sorrowptoss
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada1431 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-22 14:34:46
August 22 2012 14:30 GMT
#7
Your performance was great!
I was actually planning on writing something similar, about me and music in my life, since I play the violin and it's been a huge influence in terms of social life and stuff.

Edit: 666th post o.O
Edit2: To the post above, yes, it's true that it isn't necesary to "destroy the piano" to make the audience feel contrasts, but after all, it IS Beethoven and my conductor would always tell the orchestra I'm part of that when playing Beethoven, you kind of have to recreate some form of exaggerated energy, and play a little more feverishly (be a little crazy).
NoMicroWin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States688 Posts
August 22 2012 16:49 GMT
#8
I appreciate the comments guys! Im thinking of uploading the 2nd movement in the next couple days, so I may add that to this blog as well.
If she pulls out her stalkers, you pull out your mauraders and concussive all over her tits
YODA_
Profile Joined June 2012
593 Posts
August 22 2012 21:08 GMT
#9
My only suggestion as someone who has learned this piece as well.........learn a quiet tone in this piece. When you go from loud to even louder, you have half the effect of going from very quiet to very loud, and this piece has so many awesome oportunities to dramatically alter the volume and tone even mid passage. Still, quite well done. I like.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
August 22 2012 22:09 GMT
#10
Go over the first part with a metronome. Some artistic license with different speeds is fine, but you switch tempo around so often it just sounds completely random. Glenn Gould might be able to get away with that, you can't. :p

As for the main part, slow down. By all means play it this fast if you want to impress some friends, but you're not completely on top of what you're doing anymore and the clarity of your interpretation suffers as a result.

Sorry if this sounds altogether negative, but I think you could make this a much more impressive interpretation by just tweaking a few things here and there.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Deleted User 255289
Profile Joined March 2012
281 Posts
August 22 2012 22:22 GMT
#11
haha i envy those of you who enjoy playing piano. my mom forced me to learn piano since a young age and i eventually reached a pretty high level although i've always hated it.
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-22 23:01:48
August 22 2012 22:54 GMT
#12
On August 22 2012 23:30 sorrowptoss wrote:
To the post above, yes, it's true that it isn't necesary to "destroy the piano" to make the audience feel contrasts, but after all, it IS Beethoven and my conductor would always tell the orchestra I'm part of that when playing Beethoven, you kind of have to recreate some form of exaggerated energy, and play a little more feverishly (be a little crazy).


That's such a mind boggling stupid and generalized direction that I'm not convinced that that's what your conductor meant...

Also 100% agreed with Orome. Beethoven is not Chopin, rubato really doesn't have a place. Beethoven meticulously marked out his metronome tempos, and even if you choose to take it slower than his original markings, you must do so consistently. (No metronome marking for this piece in particular, but the later usage of metronomes in his composition definitely show he had very clear tempo in mind for his compositions) The #1 interpretative failing I hear in recordings of the "major" named sonatas (Pathetique, Moonlight, Appassionata are the big three here) is succumbing to the temptation of artificially injecting drama/tension/emotion through arbitrarily manipulating the tempo - extended ritardandos even in places where it's not marked, deliberating oscillating between fast and slow, etc. This is by no means limited to amateur pianists, or even pianists at all - there are many concert/recorded pianists and even conductors in symphonies who sometimes feel the need to vastly exaggerate tempo markings in a vain attempt to make a statement.

Try going through pieces with a metronome and sticking exactly to the tempo, and you'll find that a lot of the subtlety of the music shines through. Again, playing fast is ok if that's the interpretive stance you're taking - but you must be consistent with it. No random slow downs if that's the route you're going.

On the subject of dynamics: a common trend among Beethoven's more tempestuous movements is the, perhaps surprising, dominance of p and pp markings. Though exhibited to a lesser extent than, say, third movement of Moonlight, the overarching dynamic of Pathetique movement one is still piano. Beethoven was a master of placing, sparingly, sf and f/ff notes and measures to create the illusion of a "loud" and driving piece. Try paying especially close attention to the dynamic markings, playing generally softer across the movement, and avoid sforzandos and fortissimos except in the measures where they're explicitly marked. Currently, I'd characterize the default dynamic of your performance as around mf, when it should be closer to p if the score is to be followed.

Full disclosure: I'm not a pianist nor a music student of any sort, merely someone who listens to a lot of Beethoven.

I'm glad you're enjoying Beethoven, hopefully you can upload some more videos with better sound quality =)
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