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Reere
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Taiwan127 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-04 15:48:49
August 04 2012 15:47 GMT
#1
I was replying to a forum post about improvement and promotion. I ended up writing a wall of text. Thought it might help others going through same journey~

Context: Someone posted about the "Spending Quotient" & how it would help on promotion.

Here’s my 2cents for chasing a promotion & improving up to Diamond:

Pick one Build Order for all matchups:
Pick a safe standard opening for your race and do it across your match-ups. The reason for picking only ONE build order, is so that you can spend the rest of your thoughts/brain power on other stuff such as spending your income, not getting supply blocked etc. etc.
Having 1 build order per matchup complicates things as you may end up trying to remember what to build next half of the time if the matchup hasn’t been coming up often.

Example: (Zerg)
During my climb in ladder up till Diamond I only had one opening. 14g/14p/21h. This is a very safe opening, anyone could argue that 15h is the better economical opening and I wouldn’t disagree. But back then my mechanics/macro still needed a lot of work, and I felt there was no point for me to open economical if I’m banking 1000minerals every single game. I was better off with a safer opening, and working on my mechanics/macro from there.



Pick one composition for each matchup and stick to it:

This goes along with the first point. Fiddling with the composition that’s trending at the moment, or something that looked overpowered on a stream is actually counter productive to macro/mechanics training. Find a standard composition you’re comfortable with, and do it each game. This free’s up much of your thought process to concentrate on the mechanics/macro that really matters.

Example: (Zerg)
This is what I used from Silver -> Masters. I only started to change up and experiment after I hit Master.
ZvT - Muta/ling/bane
ZvP - Roach/hydra/corrupter
ZvZ - ling/bane/roach



Pick one mechanic at a time to work on:

As easy as it sounds to work on both worker production and not getting supply blocked, it’s actually much more complicated. In my experience, working on ONE thing at a time is much more productive and a lot faster than trying to juggle two-three foreign concepts at once. Choose 1 thing to work on, move on when you think you’ve conquered it.

Example: (Zerg)
Back in my Gold days, I felt that my biggest fallback was injects. So what I did was ONLY work on injects for about a month plus. I took it another step further and played 100 games vs very easy AI before I stepped back on the ladder. Against the AI was opening as per normal, building all the things in a normal game but watching my injects extra carefully. I’d quit game at 10minutes and start over again. Any queen with energy above 40 I’d considered a ‘failure’ of the exercise.



Don’t worry about win/lose a game.
Of course we all play this game to win, but the journey of improvement will have many losses as well and the sooner we accept that the easier time we’ll have in this journey. As White-Ra famously said “If you want to win, you must lose first.” Don’t always depict the win on who GG’d at the end of the game. Perhaps in a tournament environment that is relevant, but outside of that a win could be never getting supply blocked in the game. Or managing to scout something coming at the right time even though you didn’t successfully defend it.

Example:
I had many different ‘winning’ scenarios during my climb in ladder. During my inject training days, a win was having all my queens below 40 energy all game. During my supply block training days, zero supply block for the whole game was a win. During creep spread training, having creep closing in on the opponent base by 14min was a win. During scouting training, as long as I scouted correctly, saw everything I could see at the right time it was a win, even if my response to it was wrong and I gg’d at the end of the game.



I share this foundation because I feel that all these concepts like the Spending Quotient theory are great things to work on but are difficult to work on if you’re adding the ‘payload’ you already have in game. Choosing 1 build order, 1 composition, over time you simply develop muscle memory over the builds and your brain is truly just working on the ONE new concept, such as the Spending Quotient.

GLHF GLGL to promotion~!!

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http://twitter.com/ReereSC |SC2 GM Zerg| Hearthstone M3/GM |Founder of loothoarder.com
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
August 04 2012 18:02 GMT
#2
I endorse this blog, playing like this won't just get you to diamond, it can get you to GM easily
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
Leyra
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1222 Posts
August 04 2012 19:59 GMT
#3
Great information for those trying to improve. As a bit of a coach (mostly for the 15~20 friends I have in lower leagues), the thing I agree with 100% the most is the final point. DON'T WORRY ABOUT WINNING! It's so easy to tilt and try to win game after game instead of focusing on improving specific things (which, conversely, lead to winning!). Instead take the loss and say "Hey, what can we learn from this?"

Good stuff man Definitely can get you past Diamond though!
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-04 22:15:00
August 04 2012 22:14 GMT
#4
Personally I think juggling two or maybe three things isn't bad if they don't get in the way of each other.

For example, the two things I'm focusing on in PvZ right now are a) taking a third and operating on 3 bases in the late midgame, and b) getting off good vortexes in lategame battles. So depending on where I am in a game I'm focusing on one or the other and I'm doing decently because there's no sense in focusing on one when it's time for me to work on the other.
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Reere
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Taiwan127 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-05 03:35:56
August 05 2012 03:32 GMT
#5
I endorse this blog, playing like this won't just get you to diamond, it can get you to GM easily

Thank you

Great information for those trying to improve. As a bit of a coach (mostly for the 15~20 friends I have in lower leagues), the thing I agree with 100% the most is the final point. DON'T WORRY ABOUT WINNING! It's so easy to tilt and try to win game after game instead of focusing on improving specific things (which, conversely, lead to winning!). Instead take the loss and say "Hey, what can we learn from this?"

Good stuff man Definitely can get you past Diamond though!

IMO there's a very fine line of wanting to win & wanting to improve. Wanting to improve creates premenant progress, while wanting to win fluctuates like our MMR. Permenant progress squeezes out much of the luck factor in our games, making our gameplay easier to analyze and results more consistent.

Thank you & you're absolutely right, this method should be able to take players beyond Diamond. IMO Diamond is the first league where a player truely understands basic mechanics/macro. With some of the basics out of the way, trying out other builds/composition wouldn't be as taxing on their overall gameplay.

Personally I think juggling two or maybe three things isn't bad if they don't get in the way of each other.

For example, the two things I'm focusing on in PvZ right now are a) taking a third and operating on 3 bases in the late midgame, and b) getting off good vortexes in lategame battles. So depending on where I am in a game I'm focusing on one or the other and I'm doing decently because there's no sense in focusing on one when it's time for me to work on the other.


Juggling more than 1 strategic concept in game is definietly not a problem.

What I meant by working on 1 thing at once was purely on mechanics. Trying to not get supply blocked, constantly make probes, AND spend all your chronoboost IMO is way too taxing on our multitasking abilities when all 3 concepts are still foreign. In this scenario I would suggest conquering one at a time, in my experience it is a lot faster then tackling all 3 at once.

EDIT: spelling
http://twitter.com/ReereSC |SC2 GM Zerg| Hearthstone M3/GM |Founder of loothoarder.com
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