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My Flash number is 3 as a result of the pounding inflicted on me by  iNcontroL.
Edit: Upon further examination of the rules it appears my Flash number is 4 because I've beaten a friend of mine who beat iNcontroL.
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On June 30 2012 10:22 Renner wrote:My Flash number is 3 as a result of the pounding inflicted on me by iNcontroL.
I think the OP is saying that you need to BEAT that person to get your FlaSh number. If you didn't beat iNcontroL, it doesn't give you the number.
Unless I'm just not understand this correctly.
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At most a 3. maybe a 2.
edit: after seeing the rules better my Flash number is definitely a 3.
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3, beat incontrol on ladder once lolz
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I beat incontrol in a clanmatch in broodwar  so my flash number is 3! whoah that's fucking insane!!! does it count that he offraced and i don't think he was that serious about it since i was a c rank newbie? was a bo3 though ^_^ essentially this means anyone who ever beat incontrol has a flash number of 3 though, which should be quite a lot.
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Probably a 4, beat someone who claimed to beat incontrol
funny how every example has incontrol
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this is now thread about everyone who has beaten incontrol
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On June 30 2012 10:33 101toss wrote:
Probably a 4, beat someone who claimed to beat incontrol
funny how every example has incontrol
Mine doesn't!
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Netherlands5032 Posts
Featured? I'm lost.
Since when and why would JD ever practice with iNcontroL?
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What if you beat the person in SC2? What about Chess? Foot race? Pie-eating contest?
In each of those respectively, my Flash number is 93, 87, 72, and 1.
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On June 30 2012 10:38 s.Q.uelched wrote:Featured? I'm lost. Since when and why would JD ever practice with iNcontroL?
Jaedong didn't start bw as an S class progamer.
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On June 30 2012 10:39 Salivanth wrote:
What if you beat the person in SC2? What about Chess? Foot race? Pie-eating contest?
In each of those respectively, my Flash number is 93, 87, 72, and 1.
there's no way you beat flash in a pie eating contest
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either 3 or 4 i would guess, without involving incontrol
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I imagine mine would be either infinite or nonexistant. I never did get above D+ on iccup, so I doubt I ever beat anybody who ever beat anybody who ever beat anybody (...) who beat Flash.
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I can't say with 100% certainty, but I'm quite sure it's a 3.
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On June 30 2012 10:56 Grobyc wrote:
I can't say with 100% certainty, but I'm quite sure it's a 3.
You've beaten incontrol?
I imagine mine would be either infinite or nonexistant. I never did get above D+ on iccup, so I doubt I ever beat anybody who ever beat anybody who ever beat anybody (...) who beat Flash.
I'm going to guess 5 or at most 6. The thing about the way the Flash number is being defined is that if you've beaten someone even just once, that counts as a connection.
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Did Incontrol really beat Jaedong once? I know zvz is volatile but that's a pretty impressive accomplishment, everyone knows mondi once beat sea, why haven't I heard this?
p.s. anyone who's beaten desrow has a FlaSh number of two not that its nearly as impressive
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This has turned into "what's your incontrol number" lulz
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this thread lol... it goes from broodwar bonjwa's to incontrol (im not saying incontrol is bad, just not on the same level as jd or flash) way to quickly
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Hyrule19077 Posts
I beat Suppy at Mafia. That counts. I have a Flash number of 4.
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That's what you get when the criterion is having one victory.
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What's the largest real number again?
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I beat a high masters that worker rushed me who beat several GM players, at least one of which beat incontrol.
That is a 6?
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I think mine is something like pi to the square root of negative infinity or some such. Because me beating Flash or anyone who beat him is either imaginary or irrational. Maybe both.
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On June 30 2012 11:13 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
This has turned into "what's your incontrol number" lulz
Lol, Flash and JD are untouchable so we're pretty much stuck with the iNcontroL number.
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I beat WhiteRa who beat Boxer who beat Bisu who beat Flash. So I have a Flash number of 4.
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I've beaten someone who has beaten incontrol on ladder, so mine is 4 I think?
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I've beaten lil-Inferno at the StarEdit.Net Duke Nukem Melee tournament; he's beaten CecilSunkure at the StarEdit.Net fortnight frenzy mapping contest; CecilSunkure has beaten Sterling at Gameclucks LAN Seattle in SCII; Sterling has beaten KawaiiRice at the same LAN; KawaiiRice has beaten AriA at SCII on ladder; AriA has beaten Motive; Motive beat EffOrt at SCII; and EffOrt has beaten FlaSh at SCII.
That gives me a FlaSh number of 8, admittedly via some SCII, and some BW, AND a BW mapping contest.
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hmm i think nOoNe beat incontrol atleast once. i beat nOoNe once. ONCE out of our many 2000000000000000 games.
so mine would be 4
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On June 30 2012 11:13 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
This has turned into "what's your incontrol number" lulz
oh lawd too true xD
0 for me  im bad TT.TT
This is only for BW right?
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Sign me up for the beat nOoNe club.
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On June 30 2012 12:40 FlaShFTW wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 11:13 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
This has turned into "what's your incontrol number" lulz oh lawd too true xD 0 for me im bad TT.TT This is only for BW right?
0 would mean...
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5 kekeke
Beat OmniEulogy in sc2, who once in bw took a game pff idra, whos beaten incontrol
Unless omni beat inc directly once. Either way
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4-i beat catz who beat incontrol who beat JD who beat flash
^.^
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Flash number of 3 ive beaten incontrol ^^
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For me the first person who comes to mind is intrigue who I beat in pvt; he beat incontrol on the first tl attack playing as uncontrollable iirc (tvz). Incontrol beat jd who was in JFK with Kevin Bacon.
edit: I also beat Suppy in bw in his early days iirc, and definitely in Go.
Only notable win other than that I can think of (if it counts) is ToT Strafe but I don't know who he beat in old-school days.
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Undefined. I've never won a game of Starcraft.
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On June 30 2012 12:11 althaz wrote:
I beat WhiteRa who beat Boxer who beat Bisu who beat Flash. So I have a Flash number of 4.
Boxer has beaten flash - you're number is 3
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On June 30 2012 12:41 SnowFantasy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 12:40 FlaShFTW wrote:On June 30 2012 11:13 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
This has turned into "what's your incontrol number" lulz oh lawd too true xD 0 for me im bad TT.TT This is only for BW right? 0 would mean...
oh wait fk myself. I have undefined. Never beaten anyone who's good enough to beat others yet lol.
wait does that mean combat-ex has a flash number of 3? hes beaten incontrol.
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On June 30 2012 10:57 Empyrean wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 10:56 Grobyc wrote:
I can't say with 100% certainty, but I'm quite sure it's a 3. You've beaten incontrol? Show nested quote +I imagine mine would be either infinite or nonexistant. I never did get above D+ on iccup, so I doubt I ever beat anybody who ever beat anybody who ever beat anybody (...) who beat Flash. I'm going to guess 5 or at most 6. The thing about the way the Flash number is being defined is that if you've beaten someone even just once, that counts as a connection.
Wait no, I'm bad; should be a 4. I beat combat-ex ;D ^
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Yeah I don't anticipate anyone being over 6 (assuming you've at least tried to play BW). You might not consciously recognize it, but the optimal connection pathway probably exists.
Anyway, I'm probably a 3 or a 4.
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I'm a 5, and I'm only in platinum!
My friend is in masters league, and has beaten people who have beaten incontrol, and I've taken games off him.
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I beat a retired player from skt1 person at sc2.
He beat  Haran according to TLPD..
Haran has beaten LighT.
 LighT has beaten Flash.
I am sure since he was on skt1 though he has beat other skt1 players.. so could be shorter path there lol.
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A few years ago I played on ICCUP and ended up winning like ~10 games after dropping to D-. Someone tell me what my # is lol.
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On June 30 2012 14:55 yoshi_yoshi wrote:
A few years ago I played on ICCUP and ended up winning like ~10 games after dropping to D-. Someone tell me what my # is lol.
∞
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WAIT I BEAT COMBATEX ONCE!!! MY NUMBER IS 4!!! :D
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I beat some chinese duudz at 2v2 who beat some other chinese duudz who beat bisu at a wcg (?) who beat flash, 5
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Heh. If SC2 counts flash number 1. found out it was him only way after because someone leaked his account name and it looked familiar. if sc2 doesn't count flash number probably 5-6 as a D BW player.
Consequently if sc2 counts this makes the following western gamers have a flash number of 2 at most:
Catz
Incontrol
IdrA
Nony
TLO
Huk
QXC
probably a couple others, given that I used to play quite a lot of ladder and only had a 60% winrate.
Lol that one random encounter on the korean ladder w/ flashes account back when he first started sc2 is a huge gateway flash number link for alot of players now.
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I have beaten losingid8 at racewar, who has beaten Rekrul at 3v3/racewar type games, who has beaten Dongrae who has beaten boxer who has beaten flash.
That puts me at 5, but it is almost certainly 4 because there has a one link route from rekrul to flash through boxer or anytime or yellow or someone.
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This reminds me of a theory I ran across in a psych class - nearly everyone in the world is separated from any other person by at most 6 degrees of separation (across all acquaintances, of course, not just winning games of SC!!!)
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On June 30 2012 11:26 tofucake wrote:
I beat Suppy at Mafia. That counts. I have a Flash number of 4.
I beat you in a game of Mafia too, so I have a Flash number of 3 and 5?!?!?!
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I swear there was a thread very similar to this made awhile back. Regardless my number is probably a 4
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On June 30 2012 15:44 jcroisdale wrote:
I swear there was a thread very similar to this made awhile back. Regardless my number is probably a 4
it was for rekrul. I had to refer back to it to remember my rekrul number so I could derive my flash number.
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On June 30 2012 14:55 yoshi_yoshi wrote:
A few years ago I played on ICCUP and ended up winning like ~10 games after dropping to D-. Someone tell me what my # is lol.
3, as you've probably beaten iNcontroL
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On June 30 2012 11:13 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
This has turned into "what's your incontrol number" lulz
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/fjYOL.png)
+ Show Spoiler +Edit: Better visibility of our second protagonist.
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Hello.
I'm in, cough, Silver league at the moment. I claim a Flash number of 4!
Flash -> Jaedong -> Incontrol is established by the OP
From the TLPD, Incontrol -> AdelScott. (EG Masters Cup VII, bo3).
And just last night, I beat AdelScott. Okay, it wasn't a tournament game, or even 1v1 ladder, it was an FFA. And AdelScott was offracing as Terran. And he had the worst spot on the map (flanked by two other players) and I had the best. And it was Friday night, so he was probably drunk. I should probably have been, but I wasn't.
But fuckit, I'm in Silver League, I'm not picky. I take all the glory I can!
So can any bronze leaguers Maguyver a Flash number less than 4?
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On June 30 2012 16:22 Aim Here wrote:
Hello.
I'm in, cough, Silver league at the moment. I claim a Flash number of 4!
Flash -> Jaedong -> Incontrol is established by the OP
From the TLPD, Incontrol -> AdelScott. (EG Masters Cup VII, bo3).
And just last night, I beat AdelScott. Okay, it wasn't a tournament game, or even 1v1 ladder, it was an FFA. And AdelScott was offracing as Terran. And he had the worst spot on the map (flanked by two other players) and I had the best. And it was Friday night, so he was probably drunk. I should probably have been, but I wasn't.
But fuckit, I'm in Silver League, I'm not picky. I take all the glory I can!
So can any bronze leaguers Maguyver a Flash number less than 4?
Adel beat MVP in TSL3 who took a game of flash in an MSL game.
you have 3~~
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Since people are bringing up SC2 I'll bring up arm-wrestling.
So my Flash number is estimated to be a 1
Let's not talk about my incontrol arm-wrestling number
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My number is a 4, possibly a 3.
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I have a 3. I've beaten pepe[z-zone] in a 2v2 hunters on USWest in 2009, and pepe has beaten M18M and others progamers who've beaten Flash.
On June 30 2012 16:24 Megaliskuu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 16:22 Aim Here wrote:
Hello.
I'm in, cough, Silver league at the moment. I claim a Flash number of 4!
Flash -> Jaedong -> Incontrol is established by the OP
From the TLPD, Incontrol -> AdelScott. (EG Masters Cup VII, bo3).
And just last night, I beat AdelScott. Okay, it wasn't a tournament game, or even 1v1 ladder, it was an FFA. And AdelScott was offracing as Terran. And he had the worst spot on the map (flanked by two other players) and I had the best. And it was Friday night, so he was probably drunk. I should probably have been, but I wasn't.
But fuckit, I'm in Silver League, I'm not picky. I take all the glory I can!
So can any bronze leaguers Maguyver a Flash number less than 4?
Adel beat MVP in TSL3 who took a game of flash in an MSL game. you have 3~~
I beat Adelscott many times on FMP maps on SC Vanilla rofl.
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i have beaten someone who beat someone who beat white-ra. i guess that gives me a 5
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I've beaten plumbum in a defiler tour and lrm)game a grudge match. Should put me on 3 somehow (without me knowing for sure).
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maybe 2 if you count in_doves offrace
3 if not, since i have beaten idra on ladder tvt
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On June 30 2012 11:13 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
This has turned into "what's your incontrol number" lulz
lol, true.
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hahaha <3 motbob.
Flash number LOL shaking my head :D
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ITT: People thinking it matters if they beat anyone / incontrol in sc2.
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Nazgul beat TT
TT beat Flash
Nazguls Flash number is 2.
ForGG beat Flash
anyone beating ForGG has a Flash number of 2.
Those may be easier graphs to follow?
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On June 30 2012 17:21 XsebT wrote:
I've beaten plumbum in a defiler tour and lrm)game a grudge match. Should put me on 3 somehow (without me knowing for sure).
you>plumbum>bylat>sziky>pusan>flash, but yea, there is probably someone who links game and flash through practice games.
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we can use the desrows game vs flash too. it could make a shorter route
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I often dream about Flash
therefore I claim an Incontrol number of 3
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Pretty sure I beat a guy (mura[sharky]) who beat flash before he was pro. But having not talked to him in ages I can't confirm it lol
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I believe I have a Flash number of 3 in two different ways :O
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I remember beating TBO on lucky match on winters duel in supreme commander. Im 100 percent sure that TBO defeated TLO in supreme commander too. And TLO did beat Incontrol who beat Jaedong who beat Flash. so i have a 5 yiphii !!
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The whole point of the Erdos number is that it wasn't hard to publish with Erdos; he had over 500 coauthors. So Flash number is kind of backwards... we need a progamer who is renowned for losing.
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On June 30 2012 12:11 althaz wrote:
I beat WhiteRa who beat Boxer who beat Bisu who beat Flash. So I have a Flash number of 4.
Boxer beat Flash once, so 3 ^^
I beat machine once, who must have beaten incontrol once, so probably 4!
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I beat ret kas morrow (Z and T!) and sjow in early days of sc2/sc2 beta. (Sjow played toss and cheesed me in go4sc2 ;d)/ I'm sure at least at least one of them has beaten someone who has beaten flash in sc2.
3!
Oh, Naniwa. If he beats flash in sc2 that makes me a 2!
Man it was easy to win in early sc2 haha.
zz I feel like a braggart douchebag this thread is dumb.
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Netherlands6142 Posts
My Flash number is 2 cause I follow Jaedong on twitter.
Edit: Oh you need to beat them? I guess I'm 4 then
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Wow, then that makes me a 5 Pholon because of that one time on Twin Blood Bath - it was a very competitive Dark Archon match, and I beat you before the other side of the map attacked.
Seeing as Flash is such a prolific player, to make it more exclusive I think we should also consider what our respective Tossgirl and Hyung-Joon numbers are!
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If KiwiiKaki was beaten by Flash on ladder, I have a flash number of 2.
Edit: read the thread a bit, false. I have no flash number. ~_~
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carrying down the line id be about 400
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Everyone has beat inc in op tl-west. As long as you count off-race.
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On June 30 2012 12:48 thedeadhaji wrote:Hmm if I can get Midian really really drunk and manage to get a cheese win vs him, then I'd have a 3, since I'm all but certain that Midian's beaten Jangbi plenty of times in his Dream.t) days 
oh shit didn't even think about that and if it's true (which I'm fairly certain it is) I'll take my 3.
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Flash --> Jaedong ---> iNcontrol ---> combatEX ---> Maximusblack
I was watching MB's stream and happened to queue up at the same time as him. tried to proxy 2gate but he defended it with a wall-off and cannons. Won anyway.
Flash number =4
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I've beaten incontrol, so I guess it's 3.
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I once had a dream where I beat flash.
My flash number is 1.
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Damn, I have no idea what mine would be. I know that I do have a Bobby Fischer number of 4 at chess though, back when I was playing tourneys and such. Fuck...I suck so badly at chess now though...years of not playing makes one weak.
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On June 30 2012 21:03 Pholon wrote:
My Flash number is 2 cause I follow Jaedong on twitter.
Edit: Oh you need to beat them? I guess I'm 4 then
Which gives me a 5, but I might be a 4 if I've beaten noOne once somehow (I kinda remember lings killing a cannon or something stupid among the 20 practice game where he raped me over and over).
If SC2 counts, I give myself a 2-3, because I've outrolled Game who certainly has taken a game of Flash/someone who beat Flash in practice, and outrolling Game takes lots of skill.
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Xiaozi (off race) -> I'd assume incontrol -> JD -> Flash
So 4. The incontrol number sure is useful
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On June 30 2012 10:45 7mk wrote:
either 3 or 4 i would guess, without involving incontrol
That is a confimed 3, might even be a 2!
LATE NIGHT EDIT
WCG 2007 Seattle Paranoid Android sAviOr Win
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I beat Anna Prosser in an FFA during Rumble in the Bronze.
I assuming she has beat iNcontroL at SOMETHING.
so 4.
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i beat owmygroin in a tournament back at beta, and considering hes pretty good and has probably beat incontrol many times, i'm a 4!
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I've got a flash number of 2. I beat desrow who beat flash.
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On June 30 2012 15:39 Superiorwolf wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 11:26 tofucake wrote:
I beat Suppy at Mafia. That counts. I have a Flash number of 4. I beat you in a game of Mafia too, so I have a Flash number of 3 and 5?!?!?!
I have also beaten tofu at mafia. Flash number 5! woohoo.
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On July 01 2012 03:40 Kiett wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 15:39 Superiorwolf wrote:On June 30 2012 11:26 tofucake wrote:
I beat Suppy at Mafia. That counts. I have a Flash number of 4. I beat you in a game of Mafia too, so I have a Flash number of 3 and 5?!?!?! I have also beaten tofu at mafia. Flash number 5! woohoo.
You've beaten Kiante, which should give you a 4 at least I think.
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I have a Flash number 3 in Broodwar:
Me > Grape
Grape > Jaedong
Jaedong > Flash
2 in SC2:
Me > Desrow (long time ago on ladder)
Desrow > Flash
I have a boxer number 2 in broodwar though which I'm probably more proud of.
Me > G5
G5 > Boxer
I beat G5 in random practice games though whereas G5 beat Boxer in a major tournament.
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2
me > desrow
desrow > flash
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Mine would be 4
I once beat machine in a 2v2
who has beaten incontrol
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4
Dance Dance Revolution "beat" iNcontroL, my friend "beat" Dance Dance Revolution and I beat my friend.
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About 3 years ago I beat M18M on iccup ladder in a PvP. Flash has been beaten twice by M18M.
Flash number 2
I beat boxer in SC2 who has also beaten Flash in BW (if cross game Flash numbers count =))
*edit: 2, not 1.
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On June 30 2012 20:30 Cooleh wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 12:11 althaz wrote:
I beat WhiteRa who beat Boxer who beat Bisu who beat Flash. So I have a Flash number of 4. Boxer beat Flash once, so 3 ^^ I beat machine once, who must have beaten incontrol once, so probably 4!
ok 3 it is then !
+ Show Spoiler +
I wonder what the score is for like.. having known Saddam Hussein personally
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On June 30 2012 12:11 althaz wrote:
I beat WhiteRa who beat Boxer who beat Bisu who beat Flash. So I have a Flash number of 4.
Boxer has beaten Flash...
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I beat Inka, who i'm sure has beaten Incontrol, who beat jaedong who beat flash so that makes me 4 i guess
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LONG AGO i played broodwars and by some random luck and who I knew in the game it was clan [ReD] and some of the old school BW players will know who they are... I obs a game with Slayer_Boxer and NaDa... just obs the game didnt play didnt beat anyone ... whats your flash number then if u just sat and obs a game with legends? lolol but long ago i did beat someone who beat incontrol but again in BW :D
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Flash
Stork > Flash
Me > Stork's computer a few years ago.
Make it two and a half then ! ;D
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This is similar to the Shusaku Number in Go, although they make a distinction between the regular Shusaku Number (you've played a game vs) and the Winning Shusaku Number (you've beaten a guy who has beaten etc.)
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I beat Testie who beat Bisu who beat Flash. That makes my Flash number 3?
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On June 30 2012 22:50 krndandaman wrote:
i beat ero-sennin who beat luckyfool who beat grape who beat jaedong who beat flash
i guess thats a flash number of 5?
i probably have a lower flash number but this is the only line of wins i can recall
Yeah but you beat me after I was already into SC2 full time congrats though, but I also beat korean progamer back in 03 so technically you've beaten every pro gamer is existence.. sort of
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I have a Flash number of 2 in bw, hooray!
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Does it count if Incontrol posted in my blog?
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Some WoW player beat Stork in WoW, so he has Flash number of 2 .
Some LoL player beat Nal_ra in LoL, so he has Flash number of 2 (because Nal_ra beat Flash in the Oldboy tv series).
Some little girl beat Flash in table football at MLG, so she has Flash number of 1.
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On July 01 2012 18:23 figq wrote:Some WoW player beat Stork in WoW, so he has Flash number of 2 . Some LoL player beat Nal_ra in LoL, so he has Flash number of 2 (because Nal_ra beat Flash in the Oldboy tv series). Some little girl beat Flash in table football at MLG, so she has Flash number of 1.
Oh my God :O
That little girl is the next Terran God.
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My number is 6
Me > Finest
Finest > Popsiclestik
Popsiclestik > yata
yata > incontrol
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On June 30 2012 13:24 FlaShFTW wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 12:41 SnowFantasy wrote:On June 30 2012 12:40 FlaShFTW wrote:On June 30 2012 11:13 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
This has turned into "what's your incontrol number" lulz oh lawd too true xD 0 for me im bad TT.TT This is only for BW right? 0 would mean... oh wait fk myself. I have undefined. Never beaten anyone who's good enough to beat others yet lol. wait does that mean combat-ex has a flash number of 3? hes beaten incontrol.
I assume CombatEX has a Flash number of 1, he must have a story about beating Flash.
My number is undefined, sadly.
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I've beaten computers in SC:BW who must've beaten flash once so a 2 ^^.
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On July 01 2012 23:09 3FFA wrote:
I've beaten computers in SC:BW who must've beaten flash once so a 2 ^^.
LOL this is probably true
Flash probably went 14cc and lost to 3 gate.
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On June 30 2012 21:03 Pholon wrote:
My Flash number is 2 cause I follow Jaedong on twitter.
Edit: Oh you need to beat them? I guess I'm 4 then
So mine is 5 because I beat you. Once. lol
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flash lost to tossgirl, tossgirl lost to idra. idra also has flashnumber 2
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If we're counting SC2 Desrow has a flash number of 1. I'm imagining almost everyone who has beaten InControl plays at a high enough level to have taken a game from Desrow too. Most people's numbers are probably at least 1 lower than they calculated.
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On June 30 2012 12:41 Lumire wrote:
Sign me up for the beat nOoNe club.
Yea, I get a 4 from this. Got him in a PvT haha.
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I guess I'm a 4 if I understood the rules correctly since I once randomed into 2 gate proxy on MP vs Megaliskuu and won,
And he was a 3
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Beat kalu who's beaten destiny who's beaten incontrol who's beaten jaedong who's beaten flash.
Flash number 4
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On July 02 2012 02:25 L_Master wrote:Yea, I get a 4 from this. Got him in a PvT haha.
Me too TvT xD
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At first I thought my Flash number is a 4. But it turns out it is a 2.
Edit: probably a lot of people have a better Flash number than they think. It's not like JD is the only person to have beaten Flash and it's not like incontrol is the only person to have beaten JD. It might get a little harder if we only count the time since Flash went on his massive win streak (starting late 2009), but even then probably not as bad as people are thinking.
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On July 02 2012 14:48 Mortality wrote:
At first I thought my Flash number is a 4. But it turns out it is a 2.
Edit: probably a lot of people have a better Flash number than they think. It's not like JD is the only person to have beaten Flash and it's not like incontrol is the only person to have beaten JD. It might get a little harder if we only count the time since Flash went on his massive win streak (starting late 2009), but even then probably not as bad as people are thinking.
You could also have a good Flash number in more recent games. A lot of Koreans do play in small daily EU/NA tournaments and play EU/NA ladder before that to get used to the latency. And those players probably also beat Flash in the Korean ladder.
I think a lot of EU/NA grand master or high master players have a Flash number of 2.
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On July 02 2012 19:11 Yello wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 14:48 Mortality wrote:
At first I thought my Flash number is a 4. But it turns out it is a 2.
Edit: probably a lot of people have a better Flash number than they think. It's not like JD is the only person to have beaten Flash and it's not like incontrol is the only person to have beaten JD. It might get a little harder if we only count the time since Flash went on his massive win streak (starting late 2009), but even then probably not as bad as people are thinking. You could also have a good Flash number in more recent games. A lot of Koreans do play in small daily EU/NA tournaments and play EU/NA ladder before that to get used to the latency. And those players probably also beat Flash in the Korean ladder. I think a lot of EU/NA grand master or high master players have a Flash number of 2.
It's better to have a number in bw, not because I'm dissing SC2, but because Flash was the best in BW, not sc2.
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I beat whitera once in sc2, anyone knows what number does that give me?
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Don't know why people are counting SC2 wins. Different game is different game.
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My Flash number is 4.
nGenMafia beat Incontrol on the ladder once, and I've beaten him long ago. (assuming OP information is accurate)
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On July 03 2012 05:28 Mortality wrote:
Don't know why people are counting SC2 wins. Different game is different game.
OP doesn't mention any game, just beating Flash eventually.
SC2 is perfectly legitimate.
Mine is probably 5.
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My BW Flash number is smaller than my SC2 Flash number ^^
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On July 03 2012 05:28 Mortality wrote:
Don't know why people are counting SC2 wins. Different game is different game.
If it was BW-only it would boil down to:
Flash
Tossgirl > Flash
IdrA > Tossgirl
A bunch of people > IdrA
even more people > a bunch of people.
everyone else
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On June 30 2012 10:18 motbob wrote:Paul Erdős was a prolific writer of academic papers, and he collaborated with over 500 fellow mathematicians over the course of his life. Eventually, the concept of the "Erdős number" arose. Paul Erdős has an Erdős number of zero. Anyone who collaborated with Erdős has an Erdős number of 1. Anyone who collaborated with someone who collaborated with Erdős has an Erdős number of 2. And so on. We can transfer this concept to the world of Starcraft by thinking about the people who have beaten Flash. Flash has a Flash number of zero. Jaedong has a Flash number of 1. ( link) iNcontroL has a Flash number of 2 (he beat Jaedong in a practice match at one point if I recall correctly) Superiorwolf has a Flash number of 3. What is your Flash number?
Cool idea, but keep in mind that the Erdős number comes from an academic publication-- not "any old" thing that you coauthored with someone (the MathSciNet collaboration distance calculator uses publications indexed by MathSciNet). So most people don't even have a number. But once you publish in a math journal, you probably now have a Erdős number since it's unlikely that all of your co-authors didn't already have one.
The SC parallel would be beating someone in a formal tournament, not just on ladder or in practice. Not everyone has been in a money tournament, but once you have gotten a few wins you're pretty likely to have established your Flash number.
Perhaps the TLPD can have a Flash number calculator added?
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On July 03 2012 05:28 Mortality wrote:
Don't know why people are counting SC2 wins. Different game is different game.
Different game is a different game that Flash also now plays professionally.
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I've beat Incontrol at Team Micro Arena in BW =P.
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I beat Flash every day that I use HTML5 or Silverlight. Actually, I guess that means Steve Jobs has a Flash Number of 1.
Safely, I have a Flash Number of 3. I imagine I might have a 2 though, because I've beaten a few Koreans at least once who might have beaten Flash, and then you also never know who has beaten him in SC2. So, conservatively 3, hoping for 2 o.o
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Shouldn't the max number be 6? Since technically we are all 6 degrees apart?
I am probably at 6 LOL (:'( forever alone down here.
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On July 03 2012 07:49 moopie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2012 05:28 Mortality wrote:
Don't know why people are counting SC2 wins. Different game is different game. If it was BW-only it would boil down to: Flash Tossgirl > Flash IdrA > Tossgirl A bunch of people > IdrA even more people > a bunch of people. everyone else
Which raises yet another quibble: would that put Huk at Flash number 3 after beating IdrA in SC2?
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On July 04 2012 03:20 Hertzy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2012 07:49 moopie wrote:On July 03 2012 05:28 Mortality wrote:
Don't know why people are counting SC2 wins. Different game is different game. If it was BW-only it would boil down to: Flash Tossgirl > Flash IdrA > Tossgirl A bunch of people > IdrA even more people > a bunch of people. everyone else Which raises yet another quibble: would that put Huk at Flash number 3 after beating IdrA in SC2?
On July 03 2012 07:49 moopie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2012 05:28 Mortality wrote:
Don't know why people are counting SC2 wins. Different game is different game. If it was BW-only it would boil down to: Flash Tossgirl > Flash IdrA > Tossgirl A bunch of people > IdrA even more people > a bunch of people. everyone else
No, Huk would not be at no. 3.
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On July 04 2012 03:28 SeaSwift wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2012 03:20 Hertzy wrote:On July 03 2012 07:49 moopie wrote:On July 03 2012 05:28 Mortality wrote:
Don't know why people are counting SC2 wins. Different game is different game. If it was BW-only it would boil down to: Flash Tossgirl > Flash IdrA > Tossgirl A bunch of people > IdrA even more people > a bunch of people. everyone else Which raises yet another quibble: would that put Huk at Flash number 3 after beating IdrA in SC2? Show nested quote +On July 03 2012 07:49 moopie wrote:On July 03 2012 05:28 Mortality wrote:
Don't know why people are counting SC2 wins. Different game is different game. If it was BW-only it would boil down to: Flash Tossgirl > Flash IdrA > Tossgirl A bunch of people > IdrA even more people > a bunch of people. everyone else No, Huk would not be at no. 3.
I was of course presuming that SC2 wins would count.
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I beat lzgamer today
He beat inc
inc beat jd
jd beat flash
thats a 4 I guess
Edit:If lz beat desrow(most likely) than my number becomes 3
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On July 02 2012 02:57 DorF wrote:I guess I'm a 4 if I understood the rules correctly since I once randomed into 2 gate proxy on MP vs Megaliskuu and won, And he was a 3
>:[
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On July 03 2012 09:49 jackphelps wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2012 05:28 Mortality wrote:
Don't know why people are counting SC2 wins. Different game is different game. Different game is a different game that Flash also now plays professionally.
Is Flash even top 100 in the world in SC2? I doubt it. He might not even be top 500. That makes the whole premise kind of a joke, really. :/
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I beat my friend Incursion
who beat vileHawk
who has beaten someone else at MLG (can't remember their name)
who has most likely beat inc
:D
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Probably a 4. I can't be sure.
Use to be a High-Masters/Mid-Gm player.
Bound to have beat someone who beat Incontrol.
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People are taking this the wrong way. Its not (I've beaten incontrol in sc2, so i have a number of 2). That doesn't count. In order to have an erdos number, one has to write a mathematical paper, I think it has to do with beating someone in BW.
No one claims to have an erdos number who has just written a book, nothing to do with math, but still involves writing. It HAS to be a mathematical paper, as I think this should HAVE to do with BW, regardless of wither flash plays sc2 or not.
(this of it this way. Gaming is the general field, just like writing. Math is the specific thing that give you a number, like the specific game would be.)
The number is in relation to his utter dominance in BW, as it was with Erdos and his prolific writing of mathematical papers.
Also, one should consider the possibility of WHEN incontrol beat jaedong (anyone know about when this happened?) Was it after jaedong beat flash? or before. Because if It was before, doesn't that mean incontrol doesn't have a flash number?
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On July 04 2012 17:02 hellsan631 wrote:
People are taking this the wrong way. Its not (I've beaten incontrol in sc2, so i have a number of 2). That doesn't count. In order to have an erdos number, one has to write a mathematical paper, I think it has to do with beating someone in BW.
No one claims to have an erdos number who has just written a book, nothing to do with math, but still involves writing. It HAS to be a mathematical paper, as I think this should HAVE to do with BW, regardless of wither flash plays sc2 or not.
(this of it this way. Gaming is the general field, just like writing. Math is the specific thing that give you a number, like the specific game would be.)
The number is in relation to his utter dominance in BW, as it was with Erdos and his prolific writing of mathematical papers.
Also, one should consider the possibility of WHEN incontrol beat jaedong (anyone know about when this happened?) Was it after jaedong beat flash? or before. Because if It was before, doesn't that mean incontrol doesn't have a flash number?
Its all meant as a joke, Incontrol beat both flash and jaedong (so he should be number 1 not 2) on ladder when they were still rookies. Also because requirements are low (bw or sc2 does not matter) the probability of someone on this forum having flash number will be relatively high. If we made a strict rules almost no one would have flash number here.
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On July 04 2012 20:37 bgx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2012 17:02 hellsan631 wrote:
People are taking this the wrong way. Its not (I've beaten incontrol in sc2, so i have a number of 2). That doesn't count. In order to have an erdos number, one has to write a mathematical paper, I think it has to do with beating someone in BW.
No one claims to have an erdos number who has just written a book, nothing to do with math, but still involves writing. It HAS to be a mathematical paper, as I think this should HAVE to do with BW, regardless of wither flash plays sc2 or not.
(this of it this way. Gaming is the general field, just like writing. Math is the specific thing that give you a number, like the specific game would be.)
The number is in relation to his utter dominance in BW, as it was with Erdos and his prolific writing of mathematical papers.
Also, one should consider the possibility of WHEN incontrol beat jaedong (anyone know about when this happened?) Was it after jaedong beat flash? or before. Because if It was before, doesn't that mean incontrol doesn't have a flash number? Its all meant as a joke, Incontrol beat both flash and jaedong (so he should be number 1 not 2) on ladder when they were still rookies. Also because requirements are low (bw or sc2 does not matter) the probability of someone on this forum having flash number will be relatively high. If we made a strict rules almost no one would have flash number here.
When did Inc beat Flash?
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I beat someone named incontrol on the ladder, but he was platinum. Does that still count?
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this is such a awesome thread that i can't even imagine what my flash number is. the level of awesomeness is beyond my imagination.
(I wont say its over 9000 ! )
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My number is two, because I beat desrow on ladder.
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Flash number of 2. I beat desrow (:
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If this is only BW then I have a flash number of 3. If you count SC2 then I have a flash number of 1.
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Do custom games count? If so, 4.
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On July 05 2012 08:30 .Sic. wrote:
My number is two, because I beat desrow on ladder.
My number is three, because I beat you in the CSL tourney
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On July 04 2012 22:35 KapsyL wrote:
this is such a awesome thread that i can't even imagine what my flash number is. the level of awesomeness is beyond my imagination.
(I wont say its over 9000 ! )
Noooo!! I was going to make the over 9000 joke.
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Kevin Bacon told me my Flash number is 7
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Never knew Incontrol had won a game vs Jaedong. My number would be 3 then cuz I've won a few vs. Incontrol.
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Mine is probably a 3, depends if Midian/Mondie/Testie have ever beaten Flash back when he was a nublet. Midian used to play with a lot of koreans but probably not I guess.
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On June 30 2012 13:21 Clerseri wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 12:11 althaz wrote:
I beat WhiteRa who beat Boxer who beat Bisu who beat Flash. So I have a Flash number of 4. Boxer has beaten flash - you're number is 3
That's the best news I've had all week .
lol@ the 13 people telling me this btw. I somehow suffered an excessive brainfade. Even silier is that this is in my favourites: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/games/7131/vod
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yay ive never seen this thread I have a flash number of 1 wooho haha :D glad i made happy people in this thread by giving away ladder points! people who beat me before I beat flash shouldn't be considered yo!! (sup arlock)
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On June 30 2012 15:29 PrinceXizor wrote:Heh. If SC2 counts flash number 1. found out it was him only way after because someone leaked his account name and it looked familiar. if sc2 doesn't count flash number probably 5-6 as a D BW player. Consequently if sc2 counts this makes the following western gamers have a flash number of 2 at most: Catz Incontrol IdrA Nony TLO Huk QXC probably a couple others, given that I used to play quite a lot of ladder and only had a 60% winrate. Lol that one random encounter on the korean ladder w/ flashes account back when he first started sc2 is a huge gateway flash number link for alot of players now.
OMG. This means I have a real Flash number. Thank you.
I once lost a game of Dota with Babyknight. I have beat one of the enemies, Tower.Of.Chaos, before(one of my buddies). Babyknight beat Catz.
Catz has 2, Babyknight 3, Tower has 4 and I got 5.
I so do not deserve this number^^
Alternatively Me > Tower > Babyknight > Adelscott > MVP > Flash
Still 5
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I met JD on the KR ladder on his first-ish week of playing and won.
Am I cool, now?
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EPT
