• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:34
CEST 23:34
KST 06:34
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies18Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview2herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026)5Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview5[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course12
Community News
Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League2Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double0Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results2Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !18
StarCraft 2
General
herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists
Tourneys
Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 527 Hell Train The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 526 Rubber and Glue Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
VPN experiences 25 Years Since Brood War Patch 1.08 vespene.gg — BW replays in browser (Spoiler) ASL21 Winner's Interview [ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies
Tourneys
[ASL21] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Muta micro map competition [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV ZeroSpace Megathread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
Trading/Investing Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Dating: How's your luck? European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software)
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Esports Organizations: Raisi…
TrAiDoS
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1686 users

Improving as Terran. Smob's blog #3

Blogs > sm0b
Post a Reply
sm0b
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States157 Posts
June 18 2012 20:13 GMT
#1
Smob's Blog #3:

It's been a couple weeks since my last blog so I thought I would write another with
an update on how things are going since I started practicing and a current
overview of my builds I am using on the ladder.
Over the past week I didn't do a lot of laddering as Random, mainly as Terran.
Not that I have totally made up my mind as to which race I am going to play but
Terran is the race I am most interested in and enjoy playing. I think deep down I
do actually want to pick Terran as my race but I am so much better (or used to
be) with Protoss as Zerg that it makes it hard to justify. In the end, I want to be
the best player I can be and if that means not picking my favorite race then so
be it.

Anyways, like I said, mainly Terran the past week so here's my overall progress:

Ladder Rank:
Currently sitting in top 25 Masters on two NA accounts, and top 8 daimond on
my KR account. This is about where I have been with protoss in the past so it's
nice to get here with Terran for once (although it is the beginning of the season
so these ranks may not be 100% accurate).

Current Map Vetos:

TDA: There's really not a lot of reasons why other than the map is big and I don't
feel confident playing on it yet as I'm relitivley new with Terran.
Entombed Valley: I have a specific reason, I have troubles with Protoss on this
map. I'm begining to think instead of trying to do ANY midgame aggression it
might just be better to get a quick third and fourth CC and just soft contain with
drop harass until Protoss has a decent army then back off. Too many games I've
gone against quick storm and a quick third and it almost always ends with me
losing a lot of my units in bad trades then falling behind.
The new map (I forget it's name): It's new, I honestly just having looked at the
map enough to come up with tactics on it so it's on the back burner.

Current Builds:

I'm going to skip any cheeses an all-ins because I only do them for warm ups or
when I'm tilting or high or whatever. All of the following builds are my standard,
go-to builds that I use 90% of the time maybe with some varying openers
depending on the map.

TvZ: I really like this new style of MMM with heavy aggression. I
play Terran to be aggressive and this style is awesome. Here's the flow of my

build...

1 rax fe ->
4 rax gasless ->
7 min marine push towards third ->
3 gas behind push ->
tech to starport and double ups ->
two pronged attack when medivacs are done ->
Late game transition to Raven/Sky Terran

I'm still working on my own variant of it so if you watch my stream you might see the specifics of the build change but the overall idea of MMM is going to stay unless there's a huge shift in the meta-game.

TvP: Not much to talk about here that is surprising to anyone, MMMVG for the most part. Some maps I go 5 rax then 3rd CC, some maps I got 3rd CC then add rax.

1 rax fe ->
2nd, 3rd rax, then double gas(still torn on double or single gas here) ->
Fact Ebay ->
Starport, addons, 3rd, 4th gas ->
eiher rax 4/5 or 3rd CC->
Heavy emphasis on GV late game

Just a couple notes here with this matchup, I am relitivley new as a Terran player and I don't find the late game to be that impossible as everyone says it is. Ghosts are really important, sometimes I have up to 12 of them with my army. As long as I keep my ghosts in the front of my army I can usually land all the EMPs I need and I win a lot of late game battles. If you are struggling with the late game in TvP watch some of my vods or my stream and You'll see how I handle them. I'm not saying I always win because I don't but I do win some battles that I see other people say are impossible.

TvT: I stole my TvT build from watching a stream. I need to come up with my own but this one works well enough while I have a greater emphasis on TvZ and TvP since I'm playing on NA and I more frequently get those matchups instead of TvT. The basis of the build is a 2 base mech all-in with a lot of tanks. Here's the flow chart:

Reactor hellion opening(like the old-school tvz one) ->
cloak banshee ->
two pronged attacks with the hellion and banshee, focusing on SCVs and upgrades->
expand behind the pressure->
get 4 factories total ->
siege tanks, hellions, vikings ->
only upgrades are blue flame and siege mode->

NOTE:
If my opponent also goes mech... instead of attacking, I build a 3rd CC and 2 armories and go into macro mode (attacking into a mech army on two bases is not a good idea, don't do it >.<)

Alright guys my lunch is over at work and I need to go back to bein productive, or at least look like I am.

I will try to stream more this week, watch me and come say hello in chat I would greatly appreciate it :D. You can find me on the non-featured section.

Thanks for reading!

PS. I just noticed some weird formatting thing happening with the first half, I wrote this in notepad so maybe that's why. I don't have time to fix it, sorry


FlyingToilet
Profile Joined August 2011
United States840 Posts
June 18 2012 21:15 GMT
#2
Nice builds i think i might steal some myself, also i have a heavy marine tank build you might want to look into ill spill the specifics for you ;P

10 depot
12 rax
13 gas
17 marine
17 orbital

Then i do my unorthodox variation, i pretty much make my 2nd rax and get my factory out, and once i get another 100 gas for a second i cut gas to make an early expansion with like 15 marines and a hellion to defend, once u make that 2nd cc you continue with both gasses, what i aim to do is get a fast eco build on top of not falling back on siege tech too bad.

It makes for like 2 tanks at 10 minutes with a good expansion timing. It's not actually that refined at all but it makes for a great solid late game in my plat league. And i usually crush other terrans if i can out micro them with tank placement and decent marine squad flanking and harassing, Hope you like my plat noob build :D
http://justin.tv/flyingtoilet
sm0b
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States157 Posts
June 18 2012 22:48 GMT
#3
On June 19 2012 06:15 FlyingToilet wrote:
Nice builds i think i might steal some myself, also i have a heavy marine tank build you might want to look into ill spill the specifics for you ;P

10 depot
12 rax
13 gas
17 marine
17 orbital

Then i do my unorthodox variation, i pretty much make my 2nd rax and get my factory out, and once i get another 100 gas for a second i cut gas to make an early expansion with like 15 marines and a hellion to defend, once u make that 2nd cc you continue with both gasses, what i aim to do is get a fast eco build on top of not falling back on siege tech too bad.

It makes for like 2 tanks at 10 minutes with a good expansion timing. It's not actually that refined at all but it makes for a great solid late game in my plat league. And i usually crush other terrans if i can out micro them with tank placement and decent marine squad flanking and harassing, Hope you like my plat noob build :D


Maybe send me a replay and I can try it out for fun in my league :D
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 26m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 1125
TKL 410
SteadfastSC 241
IndyStarCraft 200
JuggernautJason62
Vindicta 23
StarCraft: Brood War
Movie 82
Dota 2
monkeys_forever185
League of Legends
Doublelift4750
Counter-Strike
Pyrionflax155
Super Smash Bros
PPMD41
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu539
Other Games
summit1g11863
Grubby4952
fl0m989
shahzam643
C9.Mang0242
UpATreeSC76
Trikslyr35
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL499
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• kabyraGe 207
• StrangeGG 36
• Hupsaiya 29
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• Eskiya23 22
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2883
• lizZardDota243
Other Games
• imaqtpie2054
• Shiphtur349
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
2h 26m
Kung Fu Cup
13h 26m
GSL
1d 11h
herO vs Classic
Cure vs Clem
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 17h
Replay Cast
2 days
GSL
2 days
Maru vs SHIN
Zoun vs Rogue
WardiTV Spring Champion…
2 days
SKillous vs Strange
Lambo vs Strange
Ryung vs Strange
Lambo vs Ryung
Ryung vs SKillous
Lambo vs SKillous
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Maestros of the Game
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Lambo vs SHIN
Solar vs Rogue
herO vs Clem
Maestros of the Game
4 days
IPSL
4 days
ZZZero vs WorsT
Julia vs eOnzErG
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Maestros of the Game
5 days
IPSL
5 days
Dragon vs Artosis
dxtr13 vs Hawk
BSL
5 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 21
2026 GSL S1
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

2026 KK StarCraft Pro League
BSL Season 22
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
KK 2v2 League Season 1
YSL S3
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
SCTL 2026 Spring
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: King of Kings
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
Bounty Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.