MLG Anaheim - Thoughts

On June 12 2012 12:37 johnnywup wrote:
i think the refs just do their job and it may seem annoying to people but they gotta do what they think they're supposed to do. doesn't matter who they're pissing off if they're doing their job. rules need to be laid out more so refs dont have to look like jerks.

On June 12 2012 12:55 Torte de Lini wrote:


Serene.

On June 12 2012 13:11 Terranist wrote:
want to thank you for taking the time to sign my keyboard at the event. it really means a lot to me.

On June 12 2012 13:13 Oreo7 wrote:
just reading this put me in a better mood for no particular reason. Thanks sheth haha :D

On June 12 2012 13:32 tofucake wrote:
You're just happy because he likes you :O

On June 12 2012 12:55 Torte de Lini wrote:


Serene.

On June 12 2012 14:00 Shew wrote:
It seems every MLG event I learn a new and really odd rule that is strictly upheld by the tournament, here are the two that I most recently learned (one at Columbus and one at Anaheim):

1.) You can refuse to tell your opponent your race when vetoing maps.

Now, this rule seems fair and unfair. If you're a famous well-known player of X race then it is a disadvantage for you. When it comes to certain match-ups, map selection is crucial. Now I know that most people know the good players and what races they are, but there are always those really strong and unknown players at every event that have the potential to take out some big names (like Scarlett at IPL4). Say a similar player made their debut at MLG, and they could just flat out refuse to tell their opponent their race, leaving a severe disadvantage to the bigger name player across the table. I understand the "mystery" aspect to the Open Bracket where it's (usually) 200+ players and you cannot know every single one. However, I feel that this is just a silly and unnecessary rule.

2.) No replay viewing at all.

After I had just lost my match and was sent into the loser bracket, I wanted to load up the replay and see what I had done wrong. Upon loading up the replay an admin instantly teleported over to me and said "no replay viewing please exit the replay". I was kind of taken back, I explained how I had already lost the best of 3 and was out, yet apparently it did not matter. What's ironic is that I'd walk down the rows of computers and see players watching replays after their defeats all the time. I don't want to jump on the "big namers get privileged" bandwagon but most of the ones I saw were big names, and they were allowed to watch their replays.

I think you should not be able to watch a replay in the middle of a boX, but when you've lost the series and it's over, you should be able to at least watch the replay and see what happened. I can understand if it's for a time-constraint and they need the computer immediately, but that was not the case for my incident at least.

On June 12 2012 12:28 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Anyway after we both thought that rule was a bit weird he gave us the second reason; there wasn't enough space. And that if every player had 1 spectator behind them then it would be too crowded. I can understand this rule. I'm not going to argue against it. I think there should be times its followed strictly (120+ ppl playing) and times it shouldn't be (20 people still in the tournament). Tyler thought up a cool idea of putting a few TV screens outside of the game area so that spectators can watch from there and not take up room. Putting 5 TV's of 5 of the best stations played inside the ropes so that people can watch from afar I think is a pretty amazing idea.

On June 12 2012 12:53 LuckyFool wrote:
for some reason I noticed more people complaining about being kicked out of the "pit" this time more than previous MLG's. Not sure if MLG was cracking down harder this time or if the people getting kicked out were just more vocal about it.

To be honest it always feels like there are too many unnecessary people in that area. It only really gets annoying when you're trying to watch a match being played on the inside stations and 6 people who don't even belong in there are standing around blocking the view. I really wish MLG would have more matches played on the outer rows (so many championship bracket matches not on stream are played in middle rows in the pit which makes it hard to watch the games sometimes) I'm sure MLG avoids using the outer rows too much though because then you have fans/spectators standing 2 feet behind you.

Was really crazy for a couple of the Kespa invitational matches, I was over there when Bisu/Fantasy were playing on regular stations in the pit and there were hundreds of people cramming so close event staff kept having to tell people to back up and push the ropes out a bit.

On June 12 2012 12:53 LuckyFool wrote:
for some reason I noticed more people complaining about being kicked out of the "pit" this time more than previous MLG's. Not sure if MLG was cracking down harder this time or if the people getting kicked out were just more vocal about it.

To be honest it always feels like there are too many unnecessary people in that area. It only really gets annoying when you're trying to watch a match being played on the inside stations and 6 people who don't even belong in there are standing around blocking the view. I really wish MLG would have more matches played on the outer rows (so many championship bracket matches not on stream are played in middle rows in the pit which makes it hard to watch the games sometimes) I'm sure MLG avoids using the outer rows too much though because then you have fans/spectators standing 2 feet behind you.

Was really crazy for a couple of the Kespa invitational matches, I was over there when Bisu/Fantasy were playing on regular stations in the pit and there were hundreds of people cramming so close event staff kept having to tell people to back up and push the ropes out a bit.

On June 12 2012 14:52 Nizzy wrote:
Media people should not be allowed in there, it just takes up space. They can still take pictures from outside it.

As far as coaches, they should be allowed to watch over a players shoulder in the pit, then when they have no players playing they should have to leave.

I don't know why its not that simple. I must be completely missing something.

On June 12 2012 13:32 tofucake wrote:
You're just happy because he likes you :O

@RedJustice: you were there? You should have gone anyway.

@Sheth fans: He plays mafia you should too then you can chat with him

@Sheth: I should have you sign my face next time. Also sick mafia dodge on Sunday :|

On June 12 2012 19:19 felisconcolori wrote:


I'm not too sure about this part. (The last bit, not the people milling around inside stations bit.) I mean, I don't know that they actively try to keep big games on the inside stations in order to minimize distractions for the players, but if they do... it'd be kindof silly. If Anaheim was set up to the same general floor plan as Orlando was, that would put stations 1 & 2 off to one side on a stage, and with little but the stage itself acting as a seperator. (This, btw, was amazing in Orlando. If only because I was able to watch MKP playing from literally at his feet - I was sitting less than two feet to his right on the edge of the stage, getting a crick in my neck from turning to look up at his screen. I could've yanked his chair out from underneath him midgame if I was completely insane douchebag.)

Also, the "known" pros are going to be treated a little bit better, always. If for no other reason than that they go to the events, the meet the admins/refs/organizers, and are more familiar than random masters tournament entry "Billy". I mean, towards the end of the tournament the pit might be more relaxed (I've seen people watching the main stage from in the pit because, y'know, chairs) but during the tournament it can be really really chaotic in there.

Also Everize is terrible at mafia.

On June 13 2012 04:04 imCookies wrote:


Nice to know he represents the Chicago Mafia community so freaking well lol. I'll have to teach Hubert the ways of mafia for the next time.

On June 12 2012 13:24 Rehio wrote:
I was wondering why you seemed to be stuck in the player's area for so long on that first day. You looked exhausted by the end of it.

Think it was Saturday that I managed to catch you out of the ropes for the first time. My friend actually spammed me with texts about it, as it was his turn off of the seats. I had this weird goal in mind for MLG: before I got any other signature on my mouse pad, I had to get Sheth's. Also, I wanted the 2 to 23 hugs I was promised on stream once, but it didn't work out.

Traded water for an autograph while feeling incredibly nervous, and even got a hug out of it! Tried to keep it short because it felt like I was a big bother while you were hanging around the player's area. I hope I wasn't too much trouble, Sheth.

And thank you so much for the second at the signing event. When I get it framed I'll send you a picture. :D

--

Since this is probably going to be the only time I'll write about my MLG experience, let me just add: I got to do something amazing. For the first time I managed to really show my mom the game I love. She bought me Starcraft 1 when I was eight years old, and she asked to come along to MLG when I told her about it. She watched every game with me, and cheered even louder than I did sometimes.

When we got back to the hotel after the finals on Sunday, she told me a few things. She had an incredible time at MLG, she loved watching Starcraft, she wants to go to more Strarcraft tournaments, and she thinks I should try to be a Starcraft player.

It was the strangest thing to hear, but it was so cool to be able to share this game with my mother.

Oh man, this was way too long.

On June 13 2012 04:11 Liquid`Sheth wrote:


He was cop, found a mafia and let the 2 lynches go buy (one where it was lynch or lose) without revealing he had a mafia. xD;
(they lost at lynch or lose)

On June 13 2012 09:09 tofucake wrote:
he's actually a conniving mad genius bad guy

he's like that guy who you accidentally step on his toe and he's all like "oh don't worry about it" and then the next day you wake up with a horse head in your bed. You know it's him and he knows you know it's him but there's no way to prove it. And the next time you see him he'll be all smiles and bubbly and be like "oh hi sup dude?" and you just stand there and piss yourself then sheepishly reply "ohai"

On June 12 2012 14:00 Shew wrote:
It seems every MLG event I learn a new and really odd rule that is strictly upheld by the tournament, here are the two that I most recently learned (one at Columbus and one at Anaheim):

1.) You can refuse to tell your opponent your race when vetoing maps.

Now, this rule seems fair and unfair. If you're a famous well-known player of X race then it is a disadvantage for you. When it comes to certain match-ups, map selection is crucial. Now I know that most people know the good players and what races they are, but there are always those really strong and unknown players at every event that have the potential to take out some big names (like Scarlett at IPL4). Say a similar player made their debut at MLG, and they could just flat out refuse to tell their opponent their race, leaving a severe disadvantage to the bigger name player across the table. I understand the "mystery" aspect to the Open Bracket where it's (usually) 200+ players and you cannot know every single one. However, I feel that this is just a silly and unnecessary rule.

2.) No replay viewing at all.

After I had just lost my match and was sent into the loser bracket, I wanted to load up the replay and see what I had done wrong. Upon loading up the replay an admin instantly teleported over to me and said "no replay viewing please exit the replay". I was kind of taken back, I explained how I had already lost the best of 3 and was out, yet apparently it did not matter. What's ironic is that I'd walk down the rows of computers and see players watching replays after their defeats all the time. I don't want to jump on the "big namers get privileged" bandwagon but most of the ones I saw were big names, and they were allowed to watch their replays.

I think you should not be able to watch a replay in the middle of a boX, but when you've lost the series and it's over, you should be able to at least watch the replay and see what happened. I can understand if it's for a time-constraint and they need the computer immediately, but that was not the case for my incident at least.

On June 13 2012 09:09 tofucake wrote:
he's actually a conniving mad genius bad guy

he's like that guy who you accidentally step on his toe and he's all like "oh don't worry about it" and then the next day you wake up with a horse head in your bed. You know it's him and he knows you know it's him but there's no way to prove it. And the next time you see him he'll be all smiles and bubbly and be like "oh hi sup dude?" and you just stand there and piss yourself then sheepishly reply "ohai"