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The reason TLO hates robo-builds..

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MacroPLZ
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States63 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-12 21:03:10
May 12 2012 20:56 GMT
#1
What's up you guys?

I have a pretty sick replay from TLO/GameofDrones vs AcerElfi you guys need to check out:

+ Show Spoiler +


Pretty intense game, with an awesome ending! TLO goes for 3 base roaches while Acer goes FFE > into 8 gate robo with colo. Good for people struggling in PVZ when they go max roaches.

As always, please give feedback, leave comments! I hope you guys enjoy!


Edited for content!

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monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
May 12 2012 20:59 GMT
#2
Maybe describe the game a bit? This is barely enough content for a blog.
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CrazyF1r3f0x
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2120 Posts
May 12 2012 21:00 GMT
#3
Do you play 2v2s with NR20?
"Actual happiness always looks pretty squalid in comparison with the overcompensations for misery."
MacroPLZ
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States63 Posts
May 12 2012 21:03 GMT
#4
On May 13 2012 05:59 NrGmonk wrote:
Maybe describe the game a bit? This is barely enough content for a blog.


I didn't want to give TOO much away, but I updated it for you sir. Thank you!
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NeMeSiS3
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
May 12 2012 21:55 GMT
#5
It's funny when even a blog barley has enough in it to be a blog : P. I especially liked the edited for content part, where the 1 line for edited for content is almost as large as the "extra" content!.

All jokes aside, cool stuff.
FoTG fighting!
MacroPLZ
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States63 Posts
May 12 2012 22:12 GMT
#6
On May 13 2012 06:55 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
It's funny when even a blog barley has enough in it to be a blog : P. I especially liked the edited for content part, where the 1 line for edited for content is almost as large as the "extra" content!.

All jokes aside, cool stuff.


I really avoided trying to sound snarky when updating, but all jokes aside, thanks man!
No excuses, only excellence. check out my caster page here: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=331796
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
May 12 2012 22:32 GMT
#7
I have to say I'm not a fan of base trades.
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MacroPLZ
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States63 Posts
May 12 2012 22:36 GMT
#8
On May 13 2012 07:32 beetlelisk wrote:
I have to say I'm not a fan of base trades.


Being a Zerg player currently and a former Terran, I have had my fair share of base trades.

+ Show Spoiler +
This one in particular, I was rooting for TLO. I honestly thought he had it. It made for a very suspensful game and for that reason alone I like the base trade scenario as a fan. As a player, losing a base trade or having only lings left against a Terran who floats their last building away, it can suck.


I really appreciate you commenting though! Thanks
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Leth0
Profile Joined February 2012
856 Posts
May 12 2012 22:37 GMT
#9
On May 13 2012 07:32 beetlelisk wrote:
I have to say I'm not a fan of base trades.


Most zergs are not a fan of engaging a maxed out protoss army.
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
May 12 2012 23:12 GMT
#10
On May 13 2012 07:36 MacroPLZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 07:32 beetlelisk wrote:
I have to say I'm not a fan of base trades.


Being a Zerg player currently and a former Terran, I have had my fair share of base trades.

+ Show Spoiler +
This one in particular, I was rooting for TLO. I honestly thought he had it. It made for a very suspensful game and for that reason alone I like the base trade scenario as a fan. As a player, losing a base trade or having only lings left against a Terran who floats their last building away, it can suck.


I really appreciate you commenting though! Thanks

No problem
On May 13 2012 07:37 Leth0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 07:32 beetlelisk wrote:
I have to say I'm not a fan of base trades.


Most zergs are not a fan of engaging a maxed out protoss army.

I don't think Protoss was maxed out in this game... and it shows you have to engage the army sooner or later.
I dislike having to engage maxed out Protoss myself but I think it's matter of having enough larvae to reinforce your force as a Zerg. And Brood Lords.
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Demonhunter04
Profile Joined July 2011
1530 Posts
May 12 2012 23:14 GMT
#11
How do you support 8 Gates + Colossi? Isn't that like, 2-3 gates too many?
"If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow" - SlayerSMMA
CrazyF1r3f0x
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2120 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-12 23:23:34
May 12 2012 23:23 GMT
#12
On May 13 2012 08:14 Demonhunter04 wrote:
How do you support 8 Gates + Colossi? Isn't that like, 2-3 gates too many?

No, once you get out the colossi, you can produce off of the gates only; trust me--I do double robo colossus + 8 gate allins all the time in PvP ^^
"Actual happiness always looks pretty squalid in comparison with the overcompensations for misery."
Demonhunter04
Profile Joined July 2011
1530 Posts
May 13 2012 00:05 GMT
#13
On May 13 2012 08:23 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 08:14 Demonhunter04 wrote:
How do you support 8 Gates + Colossi? Isn't that like, 2-3 gates too many?

No, once you get out the colossi, you can produce off of the gates only; trust me--I do double robo colossus + 8 gate allins all the time in PvP ^^


It's not mathematically possible unless your gates are idle for a long time between warpins. And this isn't factoring chronoboost in.
"If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow" - SlayerSMMA
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
May 13 2012 00:12 GMT
#14
On May 13 2012 07:37 Leth0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 07:32 beetlelisk wrote:
I have to say I'm not a fan of base trades.


Most zergs are not a fan of engaging a ̶m̶a̶x̶e̶d̶ ̶o̶u̶t̶ protoss army.


Fixed that for you.
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ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
May 13 2012 00:15 GMT
#15
Tbh, it sounded like you had already watched the replay before casting and then foreshadowed a bunch of stuff that was going to happen. Fun game/decent cast otherwise.
MacroPLZ
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States63 Posts
May 13 2012 09:15 GMT
#16
On May 13 2012 09:15 ZeaL. wrote:
Tbh, it sounded like you had already watched the replay before casting and then foreshadowed a bunch of stuff that was going to happen. Fun game/decent cast otherwise.



I always try to live cast every game, however sometimes there are technical difficulties (lag while recording) and I re-record for quality. In this video, I had only seen the very beginning once, however I hadn't seen the whole thing. Thank you for watching and for commenting!
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Mstring
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia510 Posts
May 13 2012 13:42 GMT
#17
On May 13 2012 09:05 Demonhunter04 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 08:23 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote:
On May 13 2012 08:14 Demonhunter04 wrote:
How do you support 8 Gates + Colossi? Isn't that like, 2-3 gates too many?

No, once you get out the colossi, you can produce off of the gates only; trust me--I do double robo colossus + 8 gate allins all the time in PvP ^^


It's not mathematically possible unless your gates are idle for a long time between warpins. And this isn't factoring chronoboost in.


You don't have 8 gates online until you're done spending on Colossus. After that, it's just a double 4gate.
og8456
Profile Joined May 2012
Korea (South)26 Posts
May 13 2012 21:14 GMT
#18
Fun game fine cast Keep it up! :D
my stream: http://ko.twitch.tv/prismccorby/
MacroPLZ
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States63 Posts
May 13 2012 21:27 GMT
#19
On May 14 2012 06:14 og8456 wrote:
Fun game fine cast Keep it up! :D


Thank you so much for that!! I am going to continue and improve. Thanks again!
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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
May 13 2012 21:44 GMT
#20
I've done this build a lot, and like people say, turns into a base trade 100% of the time -_-. Kind of annoying, and aside from that if you want to be faking taking a 3rd so that zerg isn't you know, totally suspicious of a 2 base all in, you can't deny overseer scouting of your main, which then makes it quite clear what is going on. And if you are clearly 2 base all inning, the question then becomes what the zerg wants to guess you are doing, and you get into a bit of a coinflip.
MacroPLZ
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States63 Posts
May 13 2012 22:36 GMT
#21
On May 14 2012 06:44 EtherealDeath wrote:
I've done this build a lot, and like people say, turns into a base trade 100% of the time -_-. Kind of annoying, and aside from that if you want to be faking taking a 3rd so that zerg isn't you know, totally suspicious of a 2 base all in, you can't deny overseer scouting of your main, which then makes it quite clear what is going on. And if you are clearly 2 base all inning, the question then becomes what the zerg wants to guess you are doing, and you get into a bit of a coinflip.



Excellent points across the board. I (being zerg) had a lot of ZvP's on the ladder today, and of the maybe 2 1/2 macro games I got to play, none of them attempted a 3rd. I was able to use that info along with sacrificing some ovies to get clear ideas of what all in to expect. One thing I can say is, cannon rush into V-Rays is reallllly annoying.

Thanks for watching and commenting!
No excuses, only excellence. check out my caster page here: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=331796
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