• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:03
CEST 21:03
KST 04:03
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting2[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent6Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4)5
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 6-12): Four star herO45.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)67Weekly Cups (Sept 29-Oct 5): MaxPax triples up3PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition325.0.15 Balance Patch Notes (Live version)119
StarCraft 2
General
PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition 5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8) Weekly Cups (Oct 6-12): Four star herO IP For new Brazil servers for NA Players TL.net Map Contest #21 - Finalists
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment Mutation # 493 Quick Killers Mutation # 492 Get Out More
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion [ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent I'm making videos again Any rep analyzer that shows resources situation? Whose hotkey signature is this?
Tourneys
[ASL20] Semifinal B [ASL20] Semifinal A [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Ro8 Day 4
Strategy
Current Meta BW - ajfirecracker Strategy & Training Siegecraft - a new perspective TvZ Theorycraft - Improving on State of the Art
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread ZeroSpace Megathread Dawn of War IV Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640} TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Stop the Construction YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Inbreeding: Why Do We Do It…
Peanutsc
From Tilt to Ragequit:The Ps…
TrAiDoS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1212 users

Why Can't I Just Enjoy The Games...

Blogs > Esoterikk
Post a Reply
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
April 30 2012 03:12 GMT
#1
Ever since Sc2 released and I got re-interested in E-sports my gaming life has been ruled by a driving need to be competitive in a game, I spend more time worrying about which game would be a better choice to practice than actually practicing a game.

A little back story first, I am turning 27 this year and currently have no semblance of a career, I spent 3 years studying in a technical school as a web designer and developer only to find out that without a computer science degree in my area of the country there are no jobs, and without a job moving to another area to find one isn't exactly a possibility. Fast forward to today, I work in retail and I spend the majority of my day thinking about or playing Dota 2 and to a lesser extent Tribes: Ascend and Sc2. I get so entrenched in practicing to try and be good at a game I ignore real life obligations which while it hasn't taken a serious toll yet, likely will when I begin university in a year.

I understand that a small percentage of people will ever become "pro" in a game, I even understand that I will make more money with a mediocre job than I ever would as a "pro gamer", I even understand that at my age I lack the resources and time to become pro. Despite knowing these things I still spend every day with the delusion that I need to become well known in a gaming scene.

I am genuinely curious nowadays why I can't just enjoy a game, Dota 2 is a beautiful game and Sc2 is a lot of fun but I am held back from enjoying either of them by my ego. Pipe dreams aside the question remains, why can't I just have fun?

*
StasisTV
Profile Joined May 2011
United States92 Posts
April 30 2012 03:51 GMT
#2
It's the simple matter of battle of the fittest. We're engrained with the feeling we need to achieve/dominate an aspect of our life and to feel successful. With success brings everything you're ancestors tried to achieve as well: food, wealth, and continuation of your lineage. Psychologically you can achieve whatever you want to, but do you have the work ethic to?
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
April 30 2012 03:55 GMT
#3
There are a lot of things going on here but it sounds like you're putting a lot of pressure on yourself to make something of that part of your life, in lieu of your original career plans going a bit awry. You're not having fun because you're trying to hard thinking trying to force it, so you can say "well at least I am really good at Dota/Tribes/whatever" because you don't have anything else you feel is substantial in your life.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
-Exalt-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States972 Posts
April 30 2012 04:09 GMT
#4
I would suggest trying new races. Maybe get a smurf account? Last season I wasn't enjoying Protoss in master league at all really (the playstyle), so I started playing Terran on a smurf and ended up with more games than my main account and a similar MMR It's a great way to simply play the game for fun while still improving your mechanics.

Trying to get legitimately good at a new race can also help you enjoy watching starcraft more, for example nowadays I have a reason to watch a TvZ or Terran stream because I am interested in the Terran's builds as well now.

For every starcraft player who takes the game relatively seriously, there is a pressure to become established / really good. But in order to really improve at a rate faster than all the other players in your league, you have to lose your ego and realize that if you lost, you only lost in that one particular game. It doesn't mean you're bad overall because of that one really-long macro game you lost on ladder, but rather in the one instance you made some mistakes (that can help you improve by thinking about them). ie, I see players like NSHS Sage or LiquidHerO lose to stupid stuff that I lose to all the time on their stream (ie a 2 rax you failed to defend well, a micro mistake in PvP, etc). That doesn't make them bad players though, just because of that one ladder game.
Salivanth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1071 Posts
April 30 2012 04:15 GMT
#5
It's a real problem. I have no ambitions or false hopes of being pro, but I still want to be better, and I'm never satisfied with my level of play. Not watching the pros would probably be a good start: They provide a totally unrealistic standard of play. (Watching Day9 cast the After Hours Gaming League helped me a LOT, when I realised how terrible these MASTERS players were compared to the professionals.)
<@Wikt> so you are one of those nega-fans <@Wikt> that hates the company that makes a game and everything they stand for <@Wikt> but still plays the game <@Wikt> (like roughly 30% of blizzard's player base, maybe much more...)
Suichoy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada397 Posts
April 30 2012 04:30 GMT
#6
What level are you at? I was like you but after a while, I reached a level that I was happy with and settled down. Plus, it looks like you are lacking a little direction in your life. I guess like Heyoka said, don't force yourself to want to do things, just do things naturally and take it as it comes.
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 04:39:37
April 30 2012 04:37 GMT
#7
On April 30 2012 12:55 heyoka wrote:
There are a lot of things going on here but it sounds like you're putting a lot of pressure on yourself to make something of that part of your life, in lieu of your original career plans going a bit awry. You're not having fun because you're trying to hard thinking trying to force it, so you can say "well at least I am really good at Dota/Tribes/whatever" because you don't have anything else you feel is substantial in your life.


Without sounding all psychological this is likely the reason, the biggest issue I fear is going to be getting out of the slump that is causing me to overcompensate in areas I can control.

What level are you at? I was like you but after a while, I reached a level that I was happy with and settled down. Plus, it looks like you are lacking a little direction in your life. I guess like Heyoka said, don't force yourself to want to do things, just do things naturally and take it as it comes.


I really only focus on Dota 2 right now, I would say I am just below high level, upper mid level player but without a ladder it's hard.
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
April 30 2012 04:50 GMT
#8
Whenever I used to have feelings of wanting to become known in the ESPORTS scene and whatnot, I just realized that a progamer is basically the same thing as a professional athlete without the immense riches and fame. So unless you really have what it takes to become a professional athlete, you just need to chill out and play for fun. Since you're focusing in DotA2 right now, just try some new heroes, don't take into account picking for your team (at a reasonable level; don't go Sniper if you have another Agi Hard Carry, ect.) and trying to counter their team, and just have fun. Or try playing some single player games. Or try doing something else other than gaming -- read a book or something.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
16:00
#26
RotterdaM1304
TKL 479
ZombieGrub324
IndyStarCraft 219
BRAT_OK 136
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 1304
TKL 479
ZombieGrub324
IndyStarCraft 219
BRAT_OK 136
Livibee 52
ProTech37
MindelVK 25
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 24329
Calm 3968
Rain 1614
GuemChi 1090
Shuttle 624
EffOrt 477
firebathero 335
Dewaltoss 154
Backho 59
Mong 34
[ Show more ]
Aegong 19
scan(afreeca) 18
Movie 14
Dota 2
qojqva4351
BananaSlamJamma175
Counter-Strike
fl0m1168
ScreaM981
pashabiceps429
Stewie2K185
Foxcn170
FunKaTv 20
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu321
Other Games
Grubby2978
FrodaN1744
gofns1037
ceh9379
Skadoodle287
C9.Mang0150
ToD121
Trikslyr44
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• kabyraGe 94
• poizon28 17
• Reevou 4
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3960
Other Games
• imaqtpie1058
• Shiphtur433
• WagamamaTV209
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
4h 57m
Afreeca Starleague
14h 57m
Soma vs Bisu
OSC
18h 57m
OSC
22h 57m
MaxPax vs Gerald
Solar vs Krystianer
PAPI vs Lemon
Ryung vs Moja
Nice vs NightPhoenix
Cham vs TBD
MaNa vs TriGGeR
PiGosaur Monday
1d 4h
The PondCast
2 days
OSC
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
Safe House 2
4 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Safe House 2
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS2
WardiTV TLMC #15
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
EC S1
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Offline Finals
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.