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White-Ra Portrait (In the Glider style)

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UltimateHurl
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland591 Posts
April 13 2012 16:15 GMT
#1
Recently I've been doodling a lot in my sketchbook, doing a lot of pencil sketches, which aren't usually my thing, but are so much fun. I've been posting my day-to-day results over at http://ultimatehurl.tumblr.com, and even though I've nowhere near the skill of Glider I thought I'd challenge myself for a TL blogpost, to draw White-Ra.

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This was based on a picture I took of White-Ra for TL during Dreamhack, and was a big challenge. I was also thinking, I usually paint, either digitally or with acrylics, would TL prefer streaming painting or Youtube videos after? Will be making the sort of things I've blogged previously

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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
April 13 2012 16:17 GMT
#2
I know hes smiling but for some reason im getting sad from this pic. I think its the shadows on the left side and the eyes.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-13 16:24:23
April 13 2012 16:23 GMT
#3
you have talent, but youre not glider^^

try to make it "cleaner", maybe by using finer lines or using a rubber to smudge the lines. Also, the eyebrowns could be darker. That would be my guess, not like im an artist or something :D
like this, he looks a bit like he just got rescued from a burning car and lost his wife or something :/
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Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
April 13 2012 16:26 GMT
#4
ask glider for some advice ^^
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-13 16:44:11
April 13 2012 16:42 GMT
#5
lol yeah what they said. However, I like the look for him. Makes me think if I was him "am I really that old?!? O.O".

On April 14 2012 01:17 iamperfection wrote:
I know hes smiling but for some reason im getting sad from this pic. I think its the shadows on the left side and the eyes.


White-Ra's left, the artist's left, or your left?
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
April 13 2012 16:57 GMT
#6
White-Ra looks like he has a tumor (not a creep one hue hue hue) on his right jaw. I suggest making a much straighter line from the ear to his chin.

Other than that good job, better than what I can draw for sure XD.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
brachester
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia1786 Posts
April 13 2012 17:14 GMT
#7
need some work with the eyes ratio dude
I hate all this singing
Utinni
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1196 Posts
April 13 2012 17:20 GMT
#8
Nice, sketch dude, Just gotta work on a few things ppl have been mentioning above and it'll look fantastic
“... you don’t have to be Sun freakin Tzu to know that real fighting isn’t about killing or even hurting the other guy, it’s about scaring him enough to call it a day.” - Max Brooks: World War Z
SiguR
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada2039 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-13 17:30:24
April 13 2012 17:30 GMT
#9
I'm the furthest thing from an expert, but for someone who doesn't do them often, I think this looks great!
Brosy
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States254 Posts
April 13 2012 18:18 GMT
#10
Looks good for a sketch! I'd suggest fading the shaded pencil lines with a finger to give it a more natural shadow. But since its just a sketch you don't really need to.
Xiron
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1233 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-13 18:28:20
April 13 2012 18:27 GMT
#11
'Not bad' - Barack Obama

btw DAT smirky smile.
"The way of life can be free and beautiful. But we have lost the way. " - Charlie Chaplin
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
April 13 2012 21:32 GMT
#12
On April 14 2012 01:42 3FFA wrote:
lol yeah what they said. However, I like the look for him. Makes me think if I was him "am I really that old?!? O.O".

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On April 14 2012 01:17 iamperfection wrote:
I know hes smiling but for some reason im getting sad from this pic. I think its the shadows on the left side and the eyes.


White-Ra's left, the artist's left, or your left?

My left
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
April 13 2012 22:44 GMT
#13
On April 14 2012 06:32 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2012 01:42 3FFA wrote:
lol yeah what they said. However, I like the look for him. Makes me think if I was him "am I really that old?!? O.O".

On April 14 2012 01:17 iamperfection wrote:
I know hes smiling but for some reason im getting sad from this pic. I think its the shadows on the left side and the eyes.


White-Ra's left, the artist's left, or your left?

My left

Ok, are you looking at it upside down or sideways?
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
fire_brand
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada1123 Posts
April 13 2012 22:52 GMT
#14
A good try my friend, but it needs work. You've got the start of a good drawing, just work it. You have establish your darks and lights. Right now there's not any real distinction between your lights and your middle tones. Either hit the darks way harder or incorporate some white pastel in for those highlights and leave the paper to act as your mid tone. As you've seen in Gliders pictures, he reworks his pieces to get that next level of finish and detail on his work.

Good stuff, you're going in the right direction.
Random player, pixel enthusiast, crappy illustrator, offlane/support
UltimateHurl
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland591 Posts
April 13 2012 23:59 GMT
#15
On April 14 2012 07:52 fire_brand wrote:
A good try my friend, but it needs work. You've got the start of a good drawing, just work it. You have establish your darks and lights. Right now there's not any real distinction between your lights and your middle tones. Either hit the darks way harder or incorporate some white pastel in for those highlights and leave the paper to act as your mid tone. As you've seen in Gliders pictures, he reworks his pieces to get that next level of finish and detail on his work.

Good stuff, you're going in the right direction.


I think this is common with a lot of my stuff, I'm self-taught so I rarely work to the level of pros, definitely working on this. I think it's the reason iamperfection sees a problem on his left-side, I wasn't clear enough with the shading on that jaw. Only have a HB pencil, thinking of investing in some charcoal to be able to smudge and that, has been a lot of fun to experiment! Thanks for the advice guys!
Bayyne
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1967 Posts
April 14 2012 00:30 GMT
#16
I actually feel like some of the "imperfections" make this portrait very intriguing, almost Van Gogh style. I like it. Some color to this portrait would also be interesting as well.

Good job nonetheless!
Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far more difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-14 02:40:57
April 14 2012 02:38 GMT
#17
On April 14 2012 08:59 UltimateHurl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2012 07:52 fire_brand wrote:
A good try my friend, but it needs work. You've got the start of a good drawing, just work it. You have establish your darks and lights. Right now there's not any real distinction between your lights and your middle tones. Either hit the darks way harder or incorporate some white pastel in for those highlights and leave the paper to act as your mid tone. As you've seen in Gliders pictures, he reworks his pieces to get that next level of finish and detail on his work.

Good stuff, you're going in the right direction.


I think this is common with a lot of my stuff, I'm self-taught so I rarely work to the level of pros, definitely working on this. I think it's the reason iamperfection sees a problem on his left-side, I wasn't clear enough with the shading on that jaw. Only have a HB pencil, thinking of investing in some charcoal to be able to smudge and that, has been a lot of fun to experiment! Thanks for the advice guys!

I'm still confused... which left

edit: I feel the same as the poster above me.
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
GreatFall
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1061 Posts
April 14 2012 04:36 GMT
#18
I like it a lot! You can see that he's deep in tought. A very striking drawing indeed.
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ironchef
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Canada1350 Posts
April 14 2012 07:59 GMT
#19
Not bad.Pretty solid all around.

Becareful of the tendency to subconsciously straighten things out when you draw. Feels like certain parts are tilting one way (ear-to-ear, jaw, neck tilt) while the center features are being forced to align(looking head on). I have problems with this too esp with people whose features angle up and down, its easy to confuse the angles. Also the way the chin goes into the jaw on his right ( the dark side) seems like its missing some volume or something.
“Because your own strength is unequal to the task, do not assume that it is beyond the powers of man; but if anything is within the powers and province of man, believe that it is within your own compass also.” - Marcus Aurelius
UltimateHurl
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland591 Posts
April 14 2012 13:44 GMT
#20
Bayyne, 3FFA I'm playing around with more impressionistic style too, just don't like it when it happens by mistake 3FFA I'm talking about the shaded side, which has problems because the shading was awkward due to a rim-light sort of lighting condition that I didn't render too well

Thanks GreatFall

ironchef yeah White-Ra was tilting his head, which introduced a few challenges I found really interesting to try and tackle
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
April 14 2012 19:22 GMT
#21
Ahh I see that now. Thanks for replying to the comments! Most posters don't . I wonder how hard it would be to try to make a tilted head straight in your mind while still making it realistic...
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
fire_brand
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada1123 Posts
April 14 2012 22:09 GMT
#22
On April 14 2012 08:59 UltimateHurl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2012 07:52 fire_brand wrote:
A good try my friend, but it needs work. You've got the start of a good drawing, just work it. You have establish your darks and lights. Right now there's not any real distinction between your lights and your middle tones. Either hit the darks way harder or incorporate some white pastel in for those highlights and leave the paper to act as your mid tone. As you've seen in Gliders pictures, he reworks his pieces to get that next level of finish and detail on his work.

Good stuff, you're going in the right direction.


I think this is common with a lot of my stuff, I'm self-taught so I rarely work to the level of pros, definitely working on this. I think it's the reason iamperfection sees a problem on his left-side, I wasn't clear enough with the shading on that jaw. Only have a HB pencil, thinking of investing in some charcoal to be able to smudge and that, has been a lot of fun to experiment! Thanks for the advice guys!


I find people who are mostly self taught just need to learn the most effective ways to improve. Most of them are just drawing in large amounts to get better and not concentrating on the things that they need to improve most, whether that be structure, shading, line quality or whatever.

I would definitely invest in some more supplies, but before you do look at how other artists do it. If you're really inspired by glider and really love his work watch his videos and try to learn from his process. Don't copy it, but just see if you can incorporate some elements of how he works into your process. I think that would be very helpful to your improvement.

Most important thing though is just to keep drawing and keep looking at stuff. You've got some good talent and obviously some passion too. Keep nurturing it : ) GL.
Random player, pixel enthusiast, crappy illustrator, offlane/support
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
April 15 2012 04:55 GMT
#23
This man above me is correct. The things about Brood War that makes you good is not what strategy you use(even if you cheese like me) but how you perform it. If you perform it tons of times with the lowest macro and micro in the world, of course you won't win. But if you perform it at A++ Level then it is time to say hello to $++ .

in other words: It isn't what you draw that makes you an amazing artist, it is how you draw it. Glider is the perfect example. If he drew with just paper and pencil or crayons or markers or w/e he would probably be much less respected. However, he does his work with intense technique and perfection and draws with charcoal, something rarely seen in everyday life.
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
UltimateHurl
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland591 Posts
April 15 2012 13:02 GMT
#24
On April 15 2012 07:09 fire_brand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2012 08:59 UltimateHurl wrote:
On April 14 2012 07:52 fire_brand wrote:
A good try my friend, but it needs work. You've got the start of a good drawing, just work it. You have establish your darks and lights. Right now there's not any real distinction between your lights and your middle tones. Either hit the darks way harder or incorporate some white pastel in for those highlights and leave the paper to act as your mid tone. As you've seen in Gliders pictures, he reworks his pieces to get that next level of finish and detail on his work.

Good stuff, you're going in the right direction.


I think this is common with a lot of my stuff, I'm self-taught so I rarely work to the level of pros, definitely working on this. I think it's the reason iamperfection sees a problem on his left-side, I wasn't clear enough with the shading on that jaw. Only have a HB pencil, thinking of investing in some charcoal to be able to smudge and that, has been a lot of fun to experiment! Thanks for the advice guys!


I find people who are mostly self taught just need to learn the most effective ways to improve. Most of them are just drawing in large amounts to get better and not concentrating on the things that they need to improve most, whether that be structure, shading, line quality or whatever.

I would definitely invest in some more supplies, but before you do look at how other artists do it. If you're really inspired by glider and really love his work watch his videos and try to learn from his process. Don't copy it, but just see if you can incorporate some elements of how he works into your process. I think that would be very helpful to your improvement.

Most important thing though is just to keep drawing and keep looking at stuff. You've got some good talent and obviously some passion too. Keep nurturing it : ) GL.


This is really great advice, thanks fire_brand
Thanks 3FFA, I figure it's only polite to respond! I usually do either acrylic or digital painting (http://ultimatehurl.com/art/ has examples), feel like I'm trying to find a good way to approach pencil sketching that suits me. It's a lot of fun to explore
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