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Tang Blog 1: Make your enemy your friend in SC2

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TangSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada1866 Posts
March 29 2012 20:36 GMT
#1
Too often players approach StarCraft II as a game of pride, of personal dedication, of success and failure.

We've all been bad-mannered to someone. It happens. Human beings are creatures of reason and emotion, and sometimes when emotion prevails we get upset about a game of SC2. However, what every player must understand is this frustration and anger does not help us improve at all.

Now some people will argue: "When I get angry, I get focused, dedicated - it helps motivate me!"
Wrong. Motivation does not stem from anger and frustration. Motivation comes from within, and it comes from those we know and respect.

So if your goal is to get better, you need to get all those negative thoughts out of your head and bring a new attitude to your gaming. So here's your homework for the next few days:

Make your ladder enemies your friends. The next time you lose a game of Starcraft to an opponent who outplays you, executes a strategy that confuses you, or does a cheese-build that catches you off-guard...
1) Say "gg, wp!" and quit the game.
2) Message the player and say "That was a strong build you did, any tips on how I could scout it and defend better?"
3) If he helped you, thank the player for the tips and ask if he'd like to play some practice games.

There's often no one in better position to give advice than your opponent. If you can approach your practice in SC2 to be focused 100% on learning and 0% on end-game results, you will find yourself soaring in skill, confidence, and friendship.

Thanks for reading,
- Tang



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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
March 29 2012 20:58 GMT
#2
i constantly get people saying "you are a faggot," "newbie pussy," "fucking loser," etc. whether i win or lose. i dont think asking them how to play better is going to make me a better sc2 player.

i will continue to just not say anything in my games.
K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
March 29 2012 21:03 GMT
#3
On March 30 2012 05:58 dAPhREAk wrote:
i constantly get people saying "you are a faggot," "newbie pussy," "fucking loser," etc. whether i win or lose. i dont think asking them how to play better is going to make me a better sc2 player.

i will continue to just not say anything in my games.


LOL you won't believe how much of those bm decrease if you just say "gl hf" at the beginning of every game.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
March 29 2012 21:04 GMT
#4
On March 30 2012 06:03 K3Nyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 05:58 dAPhREAk wrote:
i constantly get people saying "you are a faggot," "newbie pussy," "fucking loser," etc. whether i win or lose. i dont think asking them how to play better is going to make me a better sc2 player.

i will continue to just not say anything in my games.


LOL you won't believe how much of those bm decrease if you just say "gl hf" at the beginning of every game.

i only play team games. my partner says "gl hf" at the beginning of games, and "gg" at the end of games. i dont say anything, and i still get messaged. anonymity makes people assholes.
mahi29
Profile Joined May 2011
United States235 Posts
March 29 2012 21:13 GMT
#5
Maybe its just me but I haven't experienced any bm on the ladder for a while now. The worst is people not saying gg at the end before they surrender if you can even call that bm. I dunno, maybe I'm just lucky with the people I face in plat.
The mind is its own place, and in it self Can make a Heaven of Hell, a Hell of Heaven.
Wortie
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands212 Posts
March 29 2012 21:14 GMT
#6
I used to bm a lot too, but something I've noticed is whenever I say more gg that my mindset actually becomes better. The fact that you say gg, kinda admits defeat and that makes you look weak. But if you never admit defeat then you can't improve because in your mind you never really lost.

However, with that said, I'm amazed by the decisionmaking of some players sometimes.
KhAmun
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1005 Posts
March 29 2012 21:16 GMT
#7
There was a blog a while ago where someone said gg wp at the end of every game, and some of them were pretty hilarious. It inspired me to suppress some of that losing rage and add in the wp at the end, and it actually helps with getting upset at losses. Telling your opponent/yourself that they played well makes you feel significantly less shitty after a loss.
Zombo Joe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada850 Posts
March 29 2012 21:20 GMT
#8
On March 30 2012 06:04 dAPhREAk wrote:
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On March 30 2012 06:03 K3Nyy wrote:
On March 30 2012 05:58 dAPhREAk wrote:
i constantly get people saying "you are a faggot," "newbie pussy," "fucking loser," etc. whether i win or lose. i dont think asking them how to play better is going to make me a better sc2 player.

i will continue to just not say anything in my games.


LOL you won't believe how much of those bm decrease if you just say "gl hf" at the beginning of every game.

i only play team games. my partner says "gl hf" at the beginning of games, and "gg" at the end of games. i dont say anything, and i still get messaged. anonymity makes people assholes.

In team games I get called all kinds of things by my opponents, who then proceed to all cheese and not even bother to micro their units.

I am Terranfying.
TORTOISE
Profile Joined December 2010
United States515 Posts
March 29 2012 21:23 GMT
#9
U just aint got no god damned spirit of competition in you, Tang. And thats why ur a loser. And ull always be a loser.

Now that i've got that out of the way, I agree totally with your OP. I think the proliferation of BM on bnet ahs something to do with people taking the game way too seriously. Have we all forgotten that it's a VIDEO GAME that we play for FUN?! So with that in mind, I think it's easier to be friendly towards other players.

I've messaged quite a few of my opponents after the game to say something positive, and overwhelmingly the response is also positive from the other person.
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TangSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada1866 Posts
March 29 2012 21:30 GMT
#10
Haha nice. I'm definitely not saying to lose the spirit of competition, just approach it differently!
Coaching www.allin-academy.com | Team www.All-Inspiration.com
Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
March 29 2012 21:35 GMT
#11
On March 30 2012 06:23 TORTOISE wrote:
I've messaged quite a few of my opponents after the game to say something positive, and overwhelmingly the response is also positive from the other person.


Whenever I try to do that I'm always met with the big fat wall that is the "ignore" function on battle net. People should at least stop ignoring instantly after a game.
KhAmun
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1005 Posts
March 29 2012 21:43 GMT
#12
On March 30 2012 06:35 Snuggles wrote:
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On March 30 2012 06:23 TORTOISE wrote:
I've messaged quite a few of my opponents after the game to say something positive, and overwhelmingly the response is also positive from the other person.


Whenever I try to do that I'm always met with the big fat wall that is the "ignore" function on battle net. People should at least stop ignoring instantly after a game.



At least it isn't as bad as when people message you with a huge insulting whine then when you respond back you're already ignored.
scarper65
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1560 Posts
March 29 2012 22:05 GMT
#13
I like to talk to people during the first couple of minutes about things going on in the starcraft scene, such as MLG and GSL. This usually makes them less likely to bm and we often converse after the game about our play. I also never cheese, which helps with preventing bm.
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
March 29 2012 23:04 GMT
#14
I've done this and if you say GG or GG wp and a GLGL at the beginning, its manner and people feel better because of it .
User was warned for too many mimes.
Rice
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1332 Posts
March 29 2012 23:08 GMT
#15
so disappointed, i thought this was going to be a blog about the orange drink
Freedom will be defended at the cost of civil liberties.
laLAlA[uC]
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada963 Posts
March 29 2012 23:14 GMT
#16
On March 30 2012 06:23 TORTOISE wrote:
U just aint got no god damned spirit of competition in you, Tang. And thats why ur a loser. And ull always be a loser.

Now that i've got that out of the way, I agree totally with your OP. I think the proliferation of BM on bnet ahs something to do with people taking the game way too seriously. Have we all forgotten that it's a VIDEO GAME that we play for FUN?! So with that in mind, I think it's easier to be friendly towards other players.

I've messaged quite a few of my opponents after the game to say something positive, and overwhelmingly the response is also positive from the other person.


zzzzzzzzzzz.

Opens post with bm.
Next says he agrees with OP that says to cut down on bm.
I'm an old man now
CrazyF1r3f0x
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2120 Posts
March 29 2012 23:16 GMT
#17
I generally like to spread the love on Battle.net <3 <3 <3
I actually make it my policy to be exceedingly nice to people (though it doesn't always pan out that way), if someone BMs me I'll try to be nice, and calm; I've learned that most of the time if you are nice they either: Give up and leave you alone, or, are unable to stay mad/upset. That being said I do sometimes lose it >_>
"Actual happiness always looks pretty squalid in comparison with the overcompensations for misery."
Jitsu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States929 Posts
March 29 2012 23:54 GMT
#18
This guy Tang I hear is the man.
Zerg Player in CheckMate Gaming - http://checkmategaming.webs.com/
-Aura-
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States209 Posts
March 30 2012 00:21 GMT
#19
If my opponent BMs when he is winning, I just float all my buildings and go do something else for 15 minutes. It's totally worth it. Doing it right now ^^
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Liquid get more Terrans please...
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
March 30 2012 00:35 GMT
#20
It's impossible to get better unless you remove your ego from the game. Manner up and you will get better.
shikata ga nai
spacebob42
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States78 Posts
March 30 2012 01:12 GMT
#21
I've found this to be true as well. Great post Tang, especially for a player as aggressive as you seem to be!
Go big or go home.
CPTBadAss
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States594 Posts
March 30 2012 04:28 GMT
#22
I barely even get a "gl hf" and when I lose, it's always an excuse or just straight up BM. Wheres the gg and gl hf? TT
I'll keep on struggling, 'cause that's the measure of a man | "That was the plan: To give him some hope, and then crush him" -Stephano
TangSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada1866 Posts
March 30 2012 13:00 GMT
#23
On March 30 2012 10:12 spacebob42 wrote:
I've found this to be true as well. Great post Tang, especially for a player as aggressive as you seem to be!

I definitely get a lot of rage when I use all-in timings, but it never holds me back!
Coaching www.allin-academy.com | Team www.All-Inspiration.com
TangSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada1866 Posts
April 04 2012 22:40 GMT
#24
On March 30 2012 13:28 CPTBadAss wrote:
I barely even get a "gl hf" and when I lose, it's always an excuse or just straight up BM. Wheres the gg and gl hf? TT

You can't control everyone else - only yourself
Coaching www.allin-academy.com | Team www.All-Inspiration.com
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