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why my friends and I are still active sc2ers.

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moloo
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom16 Posts
March 16 2012 14:55 GMT
#1
Summary:
Regular casual sc2 tournaments amongst friends are very good. We are approaching the grand final of our 5th tournament. We have drama and story and metagame massively superior to my ladder experience.

Details:
A few of us were looking forward to the game when it came out. We played the single player and it was fun but our early multi player games didn't really have longevity. a few nights playing random games against each other soon got dull. A couple of us settled into playing regular 2v2 and our mini aim was to try and get into gold. researching 2v2 strategy and media lead us into most of the main sc2 content (teamliquid, day9tv, husky). The content is good, it makes you want to do 1v1 but with the small pool of people there was just not that much to hold us to the game.
We would play each other on a night but the games didn't really mean anything, the better players would offrace or try daft stuff to try and make it more even. Some people would ladder with an aim to getting to a particular league. We were all spending less and less time playing.

We decided to organise a small tournament amongst the people who played. No prize or anything, just kudos and bragging rights. Suddenly everything was exciting and interesting. I had played against and alongside these people loads of times before but once you say "on monday i am playing a bo3 against x for the tournament and most of the other lads will be spectators" then its a whole different experience.
I plan for the games, i try to analyse how my opponent plays and what he usually does, i arrange practice games with people who play the same race to help me try certain things out. Every time i see a cheese in a tournament or read a strategy post on tl I am thinking about if i can use it in one of my games.
We are all low leagues but I claim we have all developed as players over the course of the year. I have seen bronze league players beat gold and platinums just because they know the gold guy only plays one strategy so they can work on blind countering it. our tournaments have seen 7rr and 6raxx come and go as very strong strategies that now most of us have practiced defending.

Each time we start a new tournament we invite other people we game with. (wow guildmates, bf3 buddies, etc) our endorsement and its continued success keeps bringing new players in. they are usually new to sc2 and they don't do very well on their first tournament but they can soon catch up.

Our first tournament had 5 players in group stage leading to the top two seeds playing a final.
we are about to finish the 5th tournament. This one had 11 players seeded into an 8 place elimination.


Even at low level, there is an opportunity for a lot more excitement than just "grind ladder, do safe builds, improve your macro, don't do anything cheesy". I would recommend that anyone who finds they have stopped playing 1v1 due to boredom should consider setting up a friends tournament.


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ClysmiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2192 Posts
March 16 2012 15:29 GMT
#2
I tried to do this with my friends in Brood War. We had ~10 people and I organized 2 or 3 tournaments along with head-to-head matches every weekend that seeded us into a double-elim supertournament. Unfortunately, all my friends sucked, and I literally didn't lose a single match, which kinda killed the fun for everyone. Only a few of them play SC2 now, and they still all suck T.T
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
March 16 2012 15:37 GMT
#3
Sounds awesome
Jaedong :3
GlintFox
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States275 Posts
March 16 2012 15:37 GMT
#4
I just don't really know anyone around where I live to do little tournys haha. Sounds like a great idea and a blast tho! Great article!
"Fear. Fear attracts the fearful… the strong… the weak… the innocent… the corrupt. Fear. Fear is my ally." -Darth Maul
MaV_gGSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1345 Posts
March 16 2012 16:21 GMT
#5
Cool blog bro. Really :D

User was temp banned for this post.
Life's good :D
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
March 16 2012 16:33 GMT
#6
On March 17 2012 00:29 ClysmiC wrote:
I tried to do this with my friends in Brood War. We had ~10 people and I organized 2 or 3 tournaments along with head-to-head matches every weekend that seeded us into a double-elim supertournament. Unfortunately, all my friends sucked, and I literally didn't lose a single match, which kinda killed the fun for everyone. Only a few of them play SC2 now, and they still all suck T.T


I'm in the same boat. Sometimes, when I'm feeling especially down, I wish I was as bad as them, so that when we did play a 2v2 or something, I wouldn't get stuck with the guy that has never even played before.

The problem is they've played sc and sc2 for years and years now. They are still so bad t.t
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
Leeoku
Profile Joined May 2010
1617 Posts
March 16 2012 16:36 GMT
#7
that the thing most people want/envy. moar friends to play sc2 wtih around same level
drooL
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2108 Posts
March 16 2012 19:00 GMT
#8
I loved this post, thanks for sharing. Glad that you guys get so much out of the game haha!
@nowSimon
moloo
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom16 Posts
March 16 2012 21:15 GMT
#9
On March 17 2012 00:29 ClysmiC wrote:
I tried to do this with my friends in Brood War. We had ~10 people and I organized 2 or 3 tournaments along with head-to-head matches every weekend that seeded us into a double-elim supertournament. Unfortunately, all my friends sucked, and I literally didn't lose a single match, which kinda killed the fun for everyone. Only a few of them play SC2 now, and they still all suck T.T

I can see that would be a problem.
we almost have the same problem with our group.
One certain chap is pretty far ahead of the rest of us. He drops games some times but its damn hard to beat him. The final of season 3 was a high point for the rest of us when a plucky underdog managed to beat him.

Personally I have never even taken a game off him which is a bit of an issue for me as I have managed to make it to the final of season 5 and I have to face him in a bo7 in 2 weeks time.

ill put another post here after the game to update on how I do.

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