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Thaniri
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1264 Posts
February 22 2012 08:16 GMT
#1
if anyone has played WoW for PVE, you would know that the MOST FUCKING IMPORTANT RULE IN THE GAME, is to NOT STAND IN THE FUCKING FIRE.

If you do a raid, even for the very first time and you die to fire, you are often booted from the group as a noob. In WoW it is completely unacceptable for someone to die in fire.

I was just thinking about micro in starcraft, and wondering when people will start yelling at eachother for having clumped units.

Ever.

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Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
February 22 2012 08:20 GMT
#2
Haha, just wait, the time WILL come.

I've been bitching about how people say SC2 is too easy compared to BW and micro in SC2 is garbage compared to B due to the massive group selection capabilities for ages. The time will come when 1a-ing your "deathball" into the enemy will literally be suicide.
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-22 09:02:31
February 22 2012 09:02 GMT
#3
I just find it that in BW, you have shitty AI so you micro to make the AI "better" (clump together for more dps, WALKING)

and in SC2 they are so smart and magically clump that you have to micro to make them stupider.

and standing in the fire is pro strat.
Jaedong :3
Ariion
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Poland50 Posts
February 22 2012 10:16 GMT
#4
But this fire gives more damage!
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
February 22 2012 10:55 GMT
#5
On February 22 2012 17:20 Bobbias wrote:
Haha, just wait, the time WILL come.

I've been bitching about how people say SC2 is too easy compared to BW and micro in SC2 is garbage compared to B due to the massive group selection capabilities for ages. The time will come when 1a-ing your "deathball" into the enemy will literally be suicide.

agreed! The worst offenders are posts where people say that SC2 is too easy AND complain that it clumping makes their armies too vulnerable to splash damage (in the SAME sentence).
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2216 Posts
February 22 2012 16:44 GMT
#6
On February 22 2012 19:55 y0su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2012 17:20 Bobbias wrote:
Haha, just wait, the time WILL come.

I've been bitching about how people say SC2 is too easy compared to BW and micro in SC2 is garbage compared to B due to the massive group selection capabilities for ages. The time will come when 1a-ing your "deathball" into the enemy will literally be suicide.

agreed! The worst offenders are posts where people say that SC2 is too easy AND complain that it clumping makes their armies too vulnerable to splash damage (in the SAME sentence).

SC2 is too easy despite the fact that clumping makes armies vulnerable to splash damage.
Blackhawk13
Profile Joined April 2010
United States442 Posts
February 22 2012 17:17 GMT
#7
Pressing W to move your WoW character out of a fire and splitting 60 marines against a ton of banes is a bit different. One of them is a lot more difficult.
Xiron
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1233 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-22 18:19:08
February 22 2012 18:18 GMT
#8
On February 23 2012 02:17 Blackhawk13 wrote:
Pressing W to move your WoW character out of a fire and splitting 60 marines against a ton of banes is a bit different. One of them is a lot more difficult.


Yeah, but still the time will come where 1a-ing will be called noobish and not be the standard even amongst pros.
"The way of life can be free and beautiful. But we have lost the way. " - Charlie Chaplin
L3gendary
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1470 Posts
February 22 2012 18:27 GMT
#9
On February 22 2012 19:55 y0su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2012 17:20 Bobbias wrote:
Haha, just wait, the time WILL come.

I've been bitching about how people say SC2 is too easy compared to BW and micro in SC2 is garbage compared to B due to the massive group selection capabilities for ages. The time will come when 1a-ing your "deathball" into the enemy will literally be suicide.

agreed! The worst offenders are posts where people say that SC2 is too easy AND complain that it clumping makes their armies too vulnerable to splash damage (in the SAME sentence).


Clumping makes the game easier because clumped up units increase dps. If you try and micro while being attacked with aoe you'll only decrease your dps. This is why splitting marines against banelings is and will be the only real micro you can do (besides basic kiting) because the banelings are melee and you aren't getting hit while microing.

In all other cases the best course of action is to pre-spread ur army in an arc and then 1a. There's no room or time to micro while the battle is going and that's what people are complaining about.
Watching Jaedong play purifies my eyes. -Coach Ju Hoon
Blackhawk13
Profile Joined April 2010
United States442 Posts
February 22 2012 19:49 GMT
#10

Clumping makes the game easier because clumped up units increase dps. If you try and micro while being attacked with aoe you'll only decrease your dps. This is why splitting marines against banelings is and will be the only real micro you can do (besides basic kiting) because the banelings are melee and you aren't getting hit while microing.

In all other cases the best course of action is to pre-spread ur army in an arc and then 1a. There's no room or time to micro while the battle is going and that's what people are complaining about.


Its been done before to things other than banelings



But you're still right in this instance because the siege tanks were not firing they were being sieged up. People have been able to storm dodge though as well.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
February 22 2012 21:54 GMT
#11
On February 23 2012 03:27 L3gendary wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2012 19:55 y0su wrote:
On February 22 2012 17:20 Bobbias wrote:
Haha, just wait, the time WILL come.

I've been bitching about how people say SC2 is too easy compared to BW and micro in SC2 is garbage compared to B due to the massive group selection capabilities for ages. The time will come when 1a-ing your "deathball" into the enemy will literally be suicide.

agreed! The worst offenders are posts where people say that SC2 is too easy AND complain that it clumping makes their armies too vulnerable to splash damage (in the SAME sentence).


Clumping makes the game easier because clumped up units increase dps. If you try and micro while being attacked with aoe you'll only decrease your dps. This is why splitting marines against banelings is and will be the only real micro you can do (besides basic kiting) because the banelings are melee and you aren't getting hit while microing.

In all other cases the best course of action is to pre-spread ur army in an arc and then 1a. There's no room or time to micro while the battle is going and that's what people are complaining about.


You might want to watch some high level TvP before saying that.
Zest fanboy.
Thaniri
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1264 Posts
February 23 2012 00:22 GMT
#12
On February 23 2012 02:17 Blackhawk13 wrote:
Pressing W to move your WoW character out of a fire and splitting 60 marines against a ton of banes is a bit different. One of them is a lot more difficult.



Going to call you stupid here, completely irrelevant to the point.

Difficulty is not the point, the point is where the skill will increase to.

And if you really want to press your point, I never got passed the first tier of armour in Cataclysm (Don't remember the number T.T) and I am a masters player in Starcraft.

I can tell that one is easier.
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