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Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-11 16:57:44
February 11 2012 16:57 GMT
#41
Thanks for bringing up this to my attention, OP. Did not realize some prominent streamers abused their viewers like that. Set up a donation instead of subjecting people into involuntary advertisements wtf. Also the online streamers list is cluttered up aplenty.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
February 11 2012 17:40 GMT
#42
On February 12 2012 00:07 Corinthos wrote:
Disappointing, I've heard about this in the LoL scene where some big streamers with thousands of viewers leave their stream on and someone plays ads for them. Not too familiar with twitch, but they used ow3nd which has/had the option where you can give another user permission to manage/play ads on for you. ow3nd was upset about this. It's bad practice and you can imagine how companies would feel if they knew their ads were being cycled with no real return.


Yeah it got pretty crazy. His following is so addicted to him that he even had ~6k viewers when he was afk for 2 hr. Then of course he had a bot set up to play the ads for him while he was off doing other stuff. I think own3d talked to him after those incidents since no one has talked about him doing that in a while.
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Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
February 11 2012 17:50 GMT
#43
Seen lots of people do this latley its really sickening and i lose respect to them if they really want money should just get a part time job instead of exploiting and letting down their fans
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mjf
Profile Joined April 2010
United States436 Posts
February 11 2012 18:09 GMT
#44
On February 12 2012 02:40 JBright wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 00:07 Corinthos wrote:
Disappointing, I've heard about this in the LoL scene where some big streamers with thousands of viewers leave their stream on and someone plays ads for them. Not too familiar with twitch, but they used ow3nd which has/had the option where you can give another user permission to manage/play ads on for you. ow3nd was upset about this. It's bad practice and you can imagine how companies would feel if they knew their ads were being cycled with no real return.


Yeah it got pretty crazy. His following is so addicted to him that he even had ~6k viewers when he was afk for 2 hr. Then of course he had a bot set up to play the ads for him while he was off doing other stuff. I think own3d talked to him after those incidents since no one has talked about him doing that in a while.


lol, i think its funny that you are talking about a specific person with nobody naming anybody. better to keep it that way, yes, just confusing.

interesting blog + events ;o
Zeles
Profile Joined October 2010
United States335 Posts
February 11 2012 18:22 GMT
#45
yea EG.demon does this too

he'll go away for many hours and have a script that runs /commercial

he doesn't display the offline picture but I think that's just as bad. no content with constant ads
UmbraaeternuS
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile476 Posts
February 11 2012 18:39 GMT
#46
On February 12 2012 01:25 evoli wrote:
I'll be talking to Fear about this immediately, and I'll be making sure that it stops.

I want to apologize to any and all fans of our DotA team for this. It's unethical, and, again, I'll make sure to let Fear know that this is unacceptable.



I'm glad to see EG is taking care of this so quickly.
This just hurts streaming. I hope this sets some rules regarding this unethical practice.
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darkscream
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2310 Posts
February 11 2012 19:22 GMT
#47
Commercials with no real content.. sounds like TV!
Doomblaze
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1292 Posts
February 11 2012 19:38 GMT
#48
This is how problems should be handled on TL. Good job guys.
Thank you OP for bringing this to our attention
Thank you Rich, Evoli and Incontrol for putting a stop to it.
In Mushi we trust
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
February 11 2012 19:38 GMT
#49
Big shame for EG D: I want to say that this wasn't intentional by Fear, but I dont know @_@
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Josh111
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States239 Posts
February 11 2012 19:39 GMT
#50
On February 12 2012 01:57 Hesmyrr wrote:
Thanks for bringing up this to my attention, OP. Did not realize some prominent streamers abused their viewers like that. Set up a donation instead of subjecting people into involuntary advertisements wtf. Also the online streamers list is cluttered up aplenty.


I don't think what the guy is doing is right but how is he abusing his viewers? he is not subjecting them to involuntary advertisements.. THEY DON'T HAVE TO WATCH!
stork4ever
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1036 Posts
February 11 2012 19:40 GMT
#51
This happens all the time, I assumed it was frowned upon but okay.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
February 11 2012 19:41 GMT
#52
On February 12 2012 04:39 Josh111 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 01:57 Hesmyrr wrote:
Thanks for bringing up this to my attention, OP. Did not realize some prominent streamers abused their viewers like that. Set up a donation instead of subjecting people into involuntary advertisements wtf. Also the online streamers list is cluttered up aplenty.


I don't think what the guy is doing is right but how is he abusing his viewers? he is not subjecting them to involuntary advertisements.. THEY DON'T HAVE TO WATCH!


1. Clicking on the stream loads a commercial, that's revenue
2. Seeing music being played and a custom screen could be interpreted as he will come online soon or that he has the wrong screen up (and will switch soon)
3. It's not the idea that they don't have to watch, it's the idea that if you're not doing something, have the courtesy of not misleading people.
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Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-11 19:42:11
February 11 2012 19:41 GMT
#53
Nice to see EG simply taking steps to stop it immediately. Kudos to them.
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Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
February 11 2012 20:22 GMT
#54
On February 12 2012 04:41 Iyerbeth wrote:
Nice to see EG simply taking steps to stop it immediately. Kudos to them.

This. At least management will intervene.
BadaBing
Profile Joined August 2010
15 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-11 20:37:56
February 11 2012 20:37 GMT
#55
On February 12 2012 01:03 Xeris wrote:
You have to physically type /commercial to play an ad. Which means, he's either sitting there doing it, or has some kinda bot, or a mod do it.

They have a program to type the /commercial. The logo is a red "A", but dunno what it is called.

Demon also uses it.
ionONE
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany605 Posts
February 11 2012 20:41 GMT
#56
why is this stream featured on TL, it is not starcraft related
JANGBI never forget
Ipp
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States456 Posts
February 11 2012 20:42 GMT
#57
And people wonder why streamers are making less money from ads nowadays. Streamers don't respect the ad companies which pay them, I really hope own3d takes that 3x ad button away because showing the same ad 3x in a row every X Minutes has a negative effect on me and I know I'm not the only one.

This is clearly "fraudulent clicks", and I hope stream providers search through vods for this type of stuff and punish the abusers. Ad companies should not be charged for ads playing on idle computers.
http://youtube.com/RageQuitTV
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
February 11 2012 20:47 GMT
#58
On February 12 2012 05:41 ONEofUS wrote:
why is this stream featured on TL, it is not starcraft related

Because people want to see it.
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FearDotA
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1 Post
February 11 2012 21:02 GMT
#59
First of all, I would like to apologize for any problems this has caused and that it won't happen again.

I can assure you this wasn't done intentionally, however. In fact, this is the first time that I've ever accidentally left my stream on when I went to sleep (or long periods of time where I'm away from my computer) after a long night of streaming. You see, I was literally streaming all night long from 8pm-5am, so you can imagine how tired I was. I put that screen up for about the last 15-30 mins of my stream ( I had another overlay that said be back in 15mins, but that was too misleading, because people kept asking where I was.) Typically I just chat a little during that time, but have no intention of playing any more games and I like that be crystal clear so I don't have to repeat myself in chat or have my mods keep repeating themselves. I'm sure anyone who watches my stream regularly, can vouch that I've never done this before or ever left my stream unattended for over an hour.

I know mistakes like these can be hard to forgive, but it really was just an honest mistake on my end with an error of judgement because I was so tired. I will make sure I triple check it from now on.

Kudos
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-11 21:14:57
February 11 2012 21:13 GMT
#60
On February 12 2012 06:02 FearDotA wrote:
Typically I just chat a little during that time, but have no intention of playing any more games and I like that be crystal clear so I don't have to repeat myself in chat or have my mods keep repeating themselves. I'm sure anyone who watches my stream regularly, can vouch that I've never done this before or ever left my stream unattended for over an hour.

I can vouch for this since I'm a regular viewer and have woken up at times as he was still streaming and then shuts it down to head to bed. He's always turned off his stream when he is done, which is why I thought all this was strange in the first place. But shit happens. We learn from our mistakes and move on.
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