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LOLingBuddha
Netherlands697 Posts
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NemesysTV
United States1088 Posts
On February 11 2012 23:56 Artimo wrote: i dont stream but dont all streams have a picture you can choose that itll show when its really offline? Yes, but it's saying it's offline when it's online to make money off Ads from people still watching regardless that a Scene in xSplit says it's offine | ||
turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On February 11 2012 23:50 Sated wrote: Prove it isn't an honest mistake. All it takes is forgetting to click a single button and the stream stays online when you didn't mean for it to. This is silly if it is on purpose, though... rich quite clearly said "if this continues". | ||
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R1CH
Netherlands10341 Posts
On February 11 2012 23:56 Artimo wrote: i dont stream but dont all streams have a picture you can choose that itll show when its really offline? Yes, they do. If he set his offline stream picture to this it would be acceptable, but he's leaving it online and streaming this picture so it tricks people into thinking he's online so he gets more ad revenue. I'm pretty sure if someone at Twitch knew about this, the stream would be taken down. | ||
Corinthos
Canada1842 Posts
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TheWarbler
United States1659 Posts
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Apollo_Shards
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Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
They'll release a new Evil Geniuses hoodie, ur moneyz are belong to us , with an intense Greg pointing at the camera. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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Bumblebee
3237 Posts
On February 11 2012 23:59 R1CH wrote: Yes, they do. If he set his offline stream picture to this it would be acceptable, but he's leaving it online and streaming this picture so it tricks people into thinking he's online so he gets more ad revenue. I'm pretty sure if someone at Twitch knew about this, the stream would be taken down. Aren't the offline pictures only shown in 4:3? I've noticed so many times that no ones pictures gets shown in a widescreen format. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On February 11 2012 23:50 Sated wrote: Prove it isn't an honest mistake. All it takes is forgetting to click a single button and the stream stays online when you didn't mean for it to. This is silly if it is on purpose, though... You have to physically type /commercial to play an ad. Which means, he's either sitting there doing it, or has some kinda bot, or a mod do it. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
I am emailing management about it right now, this is obviously bad. | ||
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lolmlg
619 Posts
I don't see any indication in your post that EG.Fear didn't come back 10 minutes later and continue his stream. For all I know that's what it said on his Twitter. So are you sure that isn't the case? Because the only way I could consider this a bad thing is if Fear left his Team Liquid stream status as online, while his stream had an offline message, for a significant amount of time and with no intention of coming back. Otherwise it's exactly what half the people in the featured list do. | ||
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On February 12 2012 01:13 lolmlg wrote: You guys are calling this exploitation for what reason exactly? Because people who left the stream on while they went out to eat dinner are getting ads on their computer? I can't understand why someone would care about that. Because people who just joined have to watch a 20 second ad before they find out that the streamer isn't there? At least half the time when I start up someone's live stream, they're not there. Sometimes they're not there for a significant amount of time or they're just browsing the internet for a significant amount of time. I don't see any indication in your post that EG.Fear didn't come back 10 minutes later and continue his stream. For all I know that's what it said on his Twitter. So are you sure that isn't the case? Because the only way I could consider this a bad thing is if Fear left his Team Liquid stream status as online, while his stream had an offline message, for a significant amount of time and with no intention of coming back. Otherwise it's exactly what half the people in the featured list do. firstly, the only person getting their panties in a twist seems to be you. secondly, the reasons this is bad have already been spelled out. thirdly, if hes just away for 10 minutes he should put up an overlay saying 'brb' not 'offline'. offline implies he isnt coming back for a long time. forthly if he was actually offline he should turn the stream off and use the default offline picture. what it looks like, to a casual observer, is that he has produced a secondary offline picture so that he can leave the stream on and make money while producing 0 content. now obviously it could just be a 1 time mistake, it could of been 10 minutes, any number of reasons why its 'not a big deal'. but its just someone asking a simple question, even if theres nothing sinister going on. | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
The problem is that he's being featured here, so there's a moral problem. | ||
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evoli
United States333 Posts
I want to apologize to any and all fans of our DotA team for this. It's unethical, and, again, I'll make sure to let Fear know that this is unacceptable. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On February 12 2012 01:24 MrCon wrote: I'm not really against this in principle (it's a way for the community to support a player). The problem is that he's being featured here, so there's a moral problem. It's actually quite stupid for any reason. If he sets his stream to "online" but you can't tell unless you actually open up his stream and see the overlay, then he'll lose a lot of regular viewers that way because for 1. it pisses people off and 2. you won't ever be able to actually tell if he's streaming unless you sign up to his twitter or facebook. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
OP really didn't give a good job giving a better context and explaining the situation better. There's too many assumptions going around. | ||
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R1CH
Netherlands10341 Posts
On February 12 2012 01:13 lolmlg wrote: Because the only way I could consider this a bad thing is if Fear left his Team Liquid stream status as online, while his stream had an offline message, for a significant amount of time and with no intention of coming back. Otherwise it's exactly what half the people in the featured list do. This is exactly what is happening, combined with a bot or script to continually run ads. Glad to see EG is taking care of this, it really hurts TwitchTV and other streamers by exploiting their ad system like this. | ||
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