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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
February 10 2012 09:43 GMT
#1
Supposed to be studying for my midterm, but whatevs. I've always pondered the thought of associating foods with different composers of classical music. Maybe because I'm hungry from skipping lunch. Maybe because I just listened to some nice Bach.

For some reason right now, I'm associating J.S. Bach with chocolate, specifically dark chocolate. Maybe because it's the season of Valentines, when chocolate is a popular choice for excited couples. The timing window to find a girl for Valentines is closing, but at least the awesome Season 6 ladder map pool is a good consolation for missing this timing. But I digress. Dark chocolate feels complex, like Bach. Bitter at first, with a learning curve for fully acclimating yourself to the complexity of it's exquisite nature. Big words; watching/listening to GSTL. For some reason, I'm also thinking about associating Bach with coffee, maybe because there is the Bach coffee cantata. Cantata reminds me of (T)Canata, who is awesome.

I liken Mozart to a nice, light salad, or at least in regards to his various concertos and sonatas for piano and other instruments. His exquisite flute and harp concerto comes to mind. When listening to that, I imagine myself eating a fresh, green salad while sitting on the porch of my house. Green grass and rolling hills in the distance. A light forest in the corner, bordering a glittering lake. Gorgeous snow-capped mountains in the distance, and the sky is a clear blue with a few fluffy clouds. Kinda reminds me of certain areas of Europe or Skyrim.

Beethoven is like a sandwich. Dunno why. Was just on my mind for some reason, which means that this comparison has no reasoning. I could really go for an Italian-style sandwich right now, or a mouth-watering BLT.

Nice baneling landmine hit from Lucky.

Mahler. Ah, good old Mahler. Epic symphonies reflecting an epic view on life, fate, and humanity. I literally teared up when I saw his 2nd Symphony live, especially when I heard the singular alto rising out from the silence in the fourth movement following the epic fanfares of the third movement. This is some serious shit, pondering the nature of existence itself. I say, I would liken Mahler symphonies to a nice, juicy steak dinner for some reason, maybe because a steak dinner is always a serious dinner. A perfectly cooked, perfectly seasoned steak in the center, with nice sides of high-quality mashed potatoes and asparagus to the side. A glass of fine wine to the side, though I personally don't drink. Serious dinner is serious business.

And Copland. So American, he is. Listening to Appalachian Spring or Hoedown reminds me of driving out West through the Great Plains, with farms and ranches passing by in the window. His music definitely evokes the American spirit of expansion and adventure. I imagine myself eating a nice barbecue meal. Copious amounts of ribs, brisket, and sausages laid out before me. Some home-made cole slaw out to the side, along with beans and fresh buttered rolls. And BBQ sauce, EVERYWHERE. Delicious.

For some reason, I'm likening Berlioz to wine. Fancy stuff, but not much reasoning there; kinda random.

Dubstep is like trying to eat steel wool.

Damn, I'm hungry.

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TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
February 10 2012 10:00 GMT
#2
See, to me it all depends on the period of classical/symphonic music as opposed to the artist, just because of the extrain range in styles between periods. I like wine and a nice, smooth dinner with baroque composers such as Bach and Vivaldi, but if I am reading or wanting inspiration, then it has to be classical period Mozart, usually the Requiem or 40th Symphony. Mozart rarely played in minor kyes, but when he did it was phenomenal.

I have never been as much into the post-classical and romantic periods as much, especially with food. They require too much of my attention and I loose sight of the food. I can't listen and enjoy The Planets, Debussy, or something more avant-garde like Erik Satie with food, maybe a glass of port, but never really with food.

To me, classical with food requires the precision melodies of older stuff. I cannot agree with Beethoven and a sandwich. His use of dynamics and bold orchestation require something in me that is much more than a simple sandwich. I am thinking s strong stew or soup, something with layers of flavor mixed together all day long.
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
February 10 2012 12:05 GMT
#3
You cannot compare the greatest geniuses in human history to banalities such as food


1/5


On February 10 2012 18:43 eviltomahawk wrote:
Beethoven is like a sandwich. Dunno why. Was just on my mind for some reason, which means that this comparison has no reasoning. I could really go for an Italian-style sandwich right now, or a mouth-watering BLT.


Really? This is how you would describe the man who wrote the 3rd, 5th, 7th, and 9th symphonies, the late string quartets, and the late piano sonatas?
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
February 10 2012 13:20 GMT
#4
Contrary to the poster above, I like your linkages between composers and food. It kind of describes how you 'tasted' their masterpieces. Berlioz is like wine probably only because he's French, hahaha. Plus, does anybody listen to things other than Symphonie Fantastique from Berlioz? A true one-hit wonder, I feel.

I love fried chicken. Beethoven is my favourite composer. But Beethoven doesn't taste like fried chicken... =O

5/5
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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
February 10 2012 13:55 GMT
#5
only composer i've ever linked with food is brahms.
raisin brahms. plus a good loaf bread, hearty beef stew and beer.
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Symmetry
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada294 Posts
February 10 2012 14:55 GMT
#6
On February 10 2012 21:05 writer22816 wrote:
You cannot compare the greatest geniuses in human history to banalities such as food


1/5


Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 18:43 eviltomahawk wrote:
Beethoven is like a sandwich. Dunno why. Was just on my mind for some reason, which means that this comparison has no reasoning. I could really go for an Italian-style sandwich right now, or a mouth-watering BLT.


Really? This is how you would describe the man who wrote the 3rd, 5th, 7th, and 9th symphonies, the late string quartets, and the late piano sonatas?


Their corpses are a hell of a lot more banal than anything I've ever eaten.

I don't think it's disrespectful or rude to make a simple meaningless connection like this...

And I can totally see Beethoven being a sandwhich. Imagine the layers of bacon as squiggly melodies dancing among the bread.
drag_
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
England425 Posts
February 10 2012 14:56 GMT
#7
On February 10 2012 22:20 OpticalShot wrote:
Contrary to the poster above, I like your linkages between composers and food. It kind of describes how you 'tasted' their masterpieces. Berlioz is like wine probably only because he's French, hahaha. Plus, does anybody listen to things other than Symphonie Fantastique from Berlioz? A true one-hit wonder, I feel.

I love fried chicken. Beethoven is my favourite composer. But Beethoven doesn't taste like fried chicken... =O

5/5

Berlioz's requiem is well worth a listen if you get the chance.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
February 10 2012 15:06 GMT
#8
On February 10 2012 23:56 drag_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 22:20 OpticalShot wrote:
Contrary to the poster above, I like your linkages between composers and food. It kind of describes how you 'tasted' their masterpieces. Berlioz is like wine probably only because he's French, hahaha. Plus, does anybody listen to things other than Symphonie Fantastique from Berlioz? A true one-hit wonder, I feel.

I love fried chicken. Beethoven is my favourite composer. But Beethoven doesn't taste like fried chicken... =O

5/5

Berlioz's requiem is well worth a listen if you get the chance.

Symphonie Fantastique
Requiem
La damnation de Faust
Les nuits d'été

he didn't write a lot because he kept writing things for stupidly huge choruses which cost a lot to produce didn't get profits
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Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
February 10 2012 15:08 GMT
#9
On February 10 2012 21:05 writer22816 wrote:
You cannot compare the greatest geniuses in human history to banalities such as food


1/5


Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 18:43 eviltomahawk wrote:
Beethoven is like a sandwich. Dunno why. Was just on my mind for some reason, which means that this comparison has no reasoning. I could really go for an Italian-style sandwich right now, or a mouth-watering BLT.


Really? This is how you would describe the man who wrote the 3rd, 5th, 7th, and 9th symphonies, the late string quartets, and the late piano sonatas?


Written like a man who has zero understanding of food. May your bread taste like ash and your wine turn to vinegar.
Logic is Overrated
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
February 10 2012 23:53 GMT
#10
On February 11 2012 00:08 Newbistic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 21:05 writer22816 wrote:
You cannot compare the greatest geniuses in human history to banalities such as food


1/5


On February 10 2012 18:43 eviltomahawk wrote:
Beethoven is like a sandwich. Dunno why. Was just on my mind for some reason, which means that this comparison has no reasoning. I could really go for an Italian-style sandwich right now, or a mouth-watering BLT.


Really? This is how you would describe the man who wrote the 3rd, 5th, 7th, and 9th symphonies, the late string quartets, and the late piano sonatas?


Written like a man who has zero understanding of food. May your bread taste like ash and your wine turn to vinegar.


Written like a man who has zero understanding of music.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
ohsea.toc
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Australia344 Posts
February 11 2012 00:32 GMT
#11
mmm....beefhoven.
Clip, clop, Camelot.
Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
February 11 2012 00:52 GMT
#12
On February 11 2012 08:53 writer22816 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 00:08 Newbistic wrote:
On February 10 2012 21:05 writer22816 wrote:
You cannot compare the greatest geniuses in human history to banalities such as food


1/5


On February 10 2012 18:43 eviltomahawk wrote:
Beethoven is like a sandwich. Dunno why. Was just on my mind for some reason, which means that this comparison has no reasoning. I could really go for an Italian-style sandwich right now, or a mouth-watering BLT.


Really? This is how you would describe the man who wrote the 3rd, 5th, 7th, and 9th symphonies, the late string quartets, and the late piano sonatas?


Written like a man who has zero understanding of food. May your bread taste like ash and your wine turn to vinegar.


Written like a man who has zero understanding of music.


No man. Really. You have a passion for music. I have a passion for food. But unlike you, I don't see my ignorance as a justification for shitting on someone else's craft. That's just crass.
Logic is Overrated
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
February 11 2012 03:42 GMT
#13
On February 11 2012 08:53 writer22816 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 00:08 Newbistic wrote:
On February 10 2012 21:05 writer22816 wrote:
You cannot compare the greatest geniuses in human history to banalities such as food


1/5


On February 10 2012 18:43 eviltomahawk wrote:
Beethoven is like a sandwich. Dunno why. Was just on my mind for some reason, which means that this comparison has no reasoning. I could really go for an Italian-style sandwich right now, or a mouth-watering BLT.


Really? This is how you would describe the man who wrote the 3rd, 5th, 7th, and 9th symphonies, the late string quartets, and the late piano sonatas?


Written like a man who has zero understanding of food. May your bread taste like ash and your wine turn to vinegar.


Written like a man who has zero understanding of music.

Written like an ass.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
February 11 2012 03:58 GMT
#14
On February 11 2012 08:53 writer22816 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 00:08 Newbistic wrote:
On February 10 2012 21:05 writer22816 wrote:
You cannot compare the greatest geniuses in human history to banalities such as food


1/5


On February 10 2012 18:43 eviltomahawk wrote:
Beethoven is like a sandwich. Dunno why. Was just on my mind for some reason, which means that this comparison has no reasoning. I could really go for an Italian-style sandwich right now, or a mouth-watering BLT.


Really? This is how you would describe the man who wrote the 3rd, 5th, 7th, and 9th symphonies, the late string quartets, and the late piano sonatas?


Written like a man who has zero understanding of food. May your bread taste like ash and your wine turn to vinegar.


Written like a man who has zero understanding of music.

Calm down bros.

I too think my reasoning for Beethoven being sandwich was a quite a bit trivial.

This blog was basically the product of too much random thinking and too much hunger. Not the best combination.
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