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I'm sure y'all have talked about this in one way or another with friends..
But last week I was surprised to find out that a girl I've been playing volleyball with is a stripper. We aren't dealing in any way.. actually I'm still recovering from a heartbreak from back in the summer. I'm not sad, but just not .. ready I guess.
Anyway, her and I talk and joke around a lot and she's open about her occupation. Somehow the topic of her dating life came up.
We were talking about the type of people strippers date.. lol and it came full circle with me. I'm a student but also an actor.
I was asking her.. "Didn't your ex's feel uneasy at all?"
But she just said, it's a job like any other. A service, etc.. and then she asked me about acting. What if I got a role on a TV series on HBO or something and I was constantly simulating sex scenes and making out with girls, etc except now, there's way more people watching.
I was trying to say like.. well it's simulated and what you're doing is real..?
I don't know guys, I'm sure she's had practice arguing this before and I had nothing.
Lol.. I don't think she's "dirty" at all. She's actually really funny and charismatic.
But my question to you guys..
Would YOU date a stripper? Not just date but have a long term relationship with.
I'm not gonna lie.. I felt uneasy about the idea at first but.. it'd be hypocritical for me to tell my girlfriend she can't shake her booty around and then I go an act in a film where I make out with other girls.
 
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Even though this needs more pics  , this could be a very interesting discussion- should not have made this as a blog imo.
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Italy12246 Posts
I don't know. I suppose i could cope with it if i really cared for her. It would definitely be hard though. But then again, i am not an actor so eh.
It's obviously one of those things that really changes a lot from person to person, for some it might be ok for others it would be impossible.
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To be honest, I don't think I would, but it depends on the person. A lot of strippers seem like they're very narcissistic and like they have no other talents but to make men desire them.
Now, it's a case by case basis. There are some jobs *cough* prostitute *cough* that I don't think I would find acceptable. Stripper is on the fine line of, well, she's not really doing anything. Just making guys, ummm, you know  I don't think that it's the most honorable of jobs, and if I had a daughter and I found out that's how she made her money I'd probably kill her, but it's everyone's own preference.
If she's funny and charismatic (obviously she can't be bad looking lol) I'd say that obviously for some people she'd be perfect. I think I could date a stripper if I really wanted to cause they're not really doing anything but teasing, but it would be a little awkward at parties or w/e if you're talking and someone asks your girlfriend what she does for a job lol...
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United Kingdom10823 Posts
Difference between a stripper and a hooker dude, so I probably would if I liked her enough. Plus if you like her, you like her. Doesn't matter what job she does.
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Yeah I would. I don't see a difference between a girl who goes out and gets drunk and gets with a dude like every weekend and a girl who gets paid to do pretty well the same thing. Honestly, I think it would be fun as well. Almost all strippers i've met at strip clubs are really charismatic and fun to chat with, plus the sex would probably be awesome.
So hell yes to dating a stripper (assuming she's clean though obviously).
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No, it doesn't need pictures.
If you are uncomfortable with the idea at the start then it ends right there. Of course she has a lot more to say about it because she does it and she has her reasons.
Dating a stripper and pornstar are very different things as well.
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i would date TWO strippers
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Yeah I would absolutely, it wouldn't really bother me. This is far better then her not having a job, for instance.
It depends on what type of person you are. I know of some guys who would be really jealous all the time and upset about her work.
If you like her and shes fun to be around and it doesn't bother you; who cares what other people think?
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You see the other guys only get to smell the cake for money...you'd get to taste it for free. Depending on circumstance I wouldn't mind dating her. But marrying her would be a different story.... I highly doubt a career stripper would be devoid of some qualities incompatible with a long term relationship.
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Yeah I guess I would. But I would be really uneasy with her being a nude stripper
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On February 04 2012 22:09 jjun212 wrote:
Would YOU date a stripper? Not just date but have a long term relationship with.
I'm not gonna lie.. I felt uneasy about the idea at first but.. it'd be hypocritical for me to tell my girlfriend she can't shake her booty around and then I go an act in a film where I make out with other girls.
Uh yeah ...
Well first off, when choosing to date someone, I wouldn't consider their occupation the main deciding factor. However, future prospects can always be a consideration for a marriage. So marrying someone who doesn't work and play games all day ... not really the smartest choice around ... but stripping? Well, it's not the best occupation in the world, but it's far from the worst imho.
If it's a career choice, I might worry about what she'd be doing when she was 35 ...
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If stripping is something thats just.. for the moment, temporary or whatever then i guess i could live with it. If it was "i dont want to be anything else then a stripper" i probably couldn't handle it. Because well your lifetime goal is to be a stripper? Way to go! Would also make me think the person is very stupid and dumb, don't think i can have a longtime relationship with anyone that has sub highscool education.
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Date for fun, yeah. Dunno about serious relationship though, don't know if I want my kids to ask me "was mommy really a stripper?". Not a problem for other people but I'd rather not have a daughter who thinks that's alright.
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On February 04 2012 22:55 unkkz wrote:
If stripping is something thats just.. for the moment, temporary or whatever then i guess i could live with it. If it was "i dont want to be anything else then a stripper" i probably couldn't handle it. Because well your lifetime goal is to be a stripper? Way to go! Would also make me think the person is very stupid and dumb, don't think i can have a longtime relationship with anyone that has sub highscool education.
There are many girls who get sucked into it because the money is so good and they never get out. -_-
Some do it to pay for college and they still go back to doing it.
Dating a stripper wouldn't be ideal for you.
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Poll: Would you date a stipper?YES (72) 62% NO (45) 38% 117 total votes Your vote: Would you date a stipper? (Vote): YES
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I actually wouldn't date women doing many different professions, even a ton of non sex related professions, so I have no problem at all discriminating against dating somebody for her profession in this case. I actually put a huge importance on how people spend their time and what they do in life - if I don't like it, that goes a huge way towards me not liking them as a person overall.
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United States22883 Posts
It sounds like she's got a pretty mature handle on what she's doing and why she's doing it and that's far more important than what she's actually doing. I completely understand having some resistance to it at first, but I think you'd probably get used to it and it doesn't hurt to give it a shot. At least she's being up front about it, which takes away a lot of the resentment you might feel if you didn't know about it and in a way, it could build more trust than a relationship with a "normal" girl might have.
Plus she probably has a lot more spending cash than a normal partner.
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When you are looking for a life-long partner what do you want their morals to be?
A) Someone who previously offered sexual favors for a price. (definition of favors being visual in this case)
B) Someone who believes that to be morally wrong and keeps her sexual life private.
Sure, the money is tempting. Get naked and make a ridiculous amount of cash for dancing, but later when that person is looking for someone of quality in marriage (ie: life-long partner), it would be hard to find a morally upstanding person to share your life with because they would not share those morals. (obvious from lifestyle)
I could never be with someone who extorts themselves in any fashion for money. I have certain pre-set rules in a relationship. You don't do things that would bother you if your partner did them. IE: Flirting, cheating, or dancing naked in front of the other sex....
Being friends is just fine. I have had a few female friends who stripped, and plenty of others who openly did things that I am completely against, but for a relationship I have a higher standard.
But that is just my opinion.
*Post note: I would never date an actress either for the same reasons. Fake or not, how would you feel if your GF / BF is in a sex scene with someone else?
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I wouldnt be able to date a stripper or an actress doing alot of tv sex scenes, even if i fully trust them i would just feel off with it.
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Sweden33719 Posts
On February 04 2012 23:22 Smoot wrote:
When you are looking for a life-long partner what do you want their morals to be?
A) Someone who previously offered sexual favors for a price. (definition of favors being visual in this case)
B) Someone who believes that to be morally wrong and keeps her sexual life private.
Sure, the money is tempting. Get naked and make a ridiculous amount of cash for dancing, but later when that person is looking for someone of quality in marriage (ie: life-long partner), it would be hard to find a morally upstanding person to share your life with because they would not share those morals. (obvious from lifestyle)
I could never be with someone who extorts themselves in any fashion for money. I have certain pre-set rules in a relationship. You don't do things that would bother you if your partner did them. IE: Flirting, cheating, or dancing naked in front of the other sex....
Being friends is just fine. I have had a few female friends who stripped, and plenty of others who openly did things that I am completely against, but for a relationship I have a higher standard.
But that is just my opinion.
*Post note: I would never date an actress either for the same reasons. Fake or not, how would you feel if your GF / BF is in a sex scene with someone else?
All I see is this assumption that it is immoral with nothing backing it up --- just dont get it. I can see reasons against it, like being uncomfortable, but meh - morality? Dont see whats wrong. She is doing no harm.
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I would date her but it would still make me sort of uneasy.
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No i wouldn't date a stripper because the majority of them have daddy issues, and thats certainly not something i need to put up with...
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On February 04 2012 23:42 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2012 23:22 Smoot wrote:
When you are looking for a life-long partner what do you want their morals to be?
A) Someone who previously offered sexual favors for a price. (definition of favors being visual in this case)
B) Someone who believes that to be morally wrong and keeps her sexual life private.
Sure, the money is tempting. Get naked and make a ridiculous amount of cash for dancing, but later when that person is looking for someone of quality in marriage (ie: life-long partner), it would be hard to find a morally upstanding person to share your life with because they would not share those morals. (obvious from lifestyle)
I could never be with someone who extorts themselves in any fashion for money. I have certain pre-set rules in a relationship. You don't do things that would bother you if your partner did them. IE: Flirting, cheating, or dancing naked in front of the other sex....
Being friends is just fine. I have had a few female friends who stripped, and plenty of others who openly did things that I am completely against, but for a relationship I have a higher standard.
But that is just my opinion.
*Post note: I would never date an actress either for the same reasons. Fake or not, how would you feel if your GF / BF is in a sex scene with someone else? All I see is this assumption that it is immoral with nothing backing it up --- just dont get it. I can see reasons against it, like being uncomfortable, but meh - morality? Dont see whats wrong. She is doing no harm.
I'm coming from the position that it is immoral to cheat on your spouse. Depending on who you are, dancing naked in front of the opposite sex can be viewed as a form of cheating.
As for it being truly immoral, I guess it depends on the current social norms.
EDIT EDIT: I guess I could replace 'morals' with 'values'. Does that make more sense?
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United States22883 Posts
On February 04 2012 23:45 ReachTheSky wrote:
No i wouldn't date a stripper because the majority of them have daddy issues, and thats certainly not something i need to put up with...
You're ruling out a lot more people than just strippers, then.
And I don't think being paid to dance naked in front of someone is anywhere close to cheating. Especially because in this case, she had her job before you came along. You're the adjustment to her life, not the job.
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Personally, I'd say that her motivations for stripping are a big factor. If she's taking classes and having a social life in the evenings by stripping at night, I could see a relationship working out. If she just wants to strip for the hell of it though, it doesn't seem as likely that a relationship could last a long time well. Just my 2 cents though...
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I'm too jealous to date a stripper.
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I mean when you see some of the things strippers do imo, i'm just not comfortable knowing my gf is giving guys lap dances you know? I'm not really the jealous type but i would rather my girlfriend not be out there showing their titties and ass for everyone else to see. Its not a matter of trust, its just i wouldn't feel comfortable.
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The real question is why would you not date a stripper?
It's only a profession. If you look at the world there is an huge number of occupations that people can do. And many of them, must be done by someone even if it is a job that nobody wants to do, right? I bet that most people that work as garbadge collectors would like to do another thing but someone has to collect garbadge. It's an honest job that puts food in the table and pays bills.
If your friend is working in adult entertainment it is only because there are people willing to pay for it. It's also an honest job that pays bills. Nothing more, nothing less. If she's a good company and you enjoy her presence then I see no reason for you don't date her. Go for it.
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I would date a stripper, but not a pornstar. There's a line, and she hasn't crossed it imo.
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On February 04 2012 23:22 Smoot wrote:
When you are looking for a life-long partner what do you want their morals to be?
A) Someone who previously offered sexual favors for a price. (definition of favors being visual in this case)
B) Someone who believes that to be morally wrong and keeps her sexual life private.
Sure, the money is tempting. Get naked and make a ridiculous amount of cash for dancing, but later when that person is looking for someone of quality in marriage (ie: life-long partner), it would be hard to find a morally upstanding person to share your life with because they would not share those morals. (obvious from lifestyle)
I could never be with someone who extorts themselves in any fashion for money. I have certain pre-set rules in a relationship. You don't do things that would bother you if your partner did them. IE: Flirting, cheating, or dancing naked in front of the other sex....
Being friends is just fine. I have had a few female friends who stripped, and plenty of others who openly did things that I am completely against, but for a relationship I have a higher standard.
But that is just my opinion.
*Post note: I would never date an actress either for the same reasons. Fake or not, how would you feel if your GF / BF is in a sex scene with someone else?
She isn't doing favors. She is doing Adult Entertainment. And if you ask why is she doing it you'll see it is because there many adults that want that kind of entertainment. There is a market for that and if people are willing to do it there will be people willing to pay for it. Work, man. That's only work.
Also you are doing alot of assumptions in your argument. I know it's your own opinion and nobody as the right to say that it's right or wrong because there is not right or wrong. But you should try to broad and open your mind a little more. Try to see things from other perspectives.
Cheers
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Hell no I wouldn't date a stripper. It's not something I can respect, at all. She's on the same level as a prostitute for me. I know that's mean, but that's how I view strippers.
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If she's the type of person you describe, then yes, I could date a stripper. Easily.
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On February 05 2012 00:27 EdSlyB wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2012 23:22 Smoot wrote:
When you are looking for a life-long partner what do you want their morals to be?
A) Someone who previously offered sexual favors for a price. (definition of favors being visual in this case)
B) Someone who believes that to be morally wrong and keeps her sexual life private.
Sure, the money is tempting. Get naked and make a ridiculous amount of cash for dancing, but later when that person is looking for someone of quality in marriage (ie: life-long partner), it would be hard to find a morally upstanding person to share your life with because they would not share those morals. (obvious from lifestyle)
I could never be with someone who extorts themselves in any fashion for money. I have certain pre-set rules in a relationship. You don't do things that would bother you if your partner did them. IE: Flirting, cheating, or dancing naked in front of the other sex....
Being friends is just fine. I have had a few female friends who stripped, and plenty of others who openly did things that I am completely against, but for a relationship I have a higher standard.
But that is just my opinion.
*Post note: I would never date an actress either for the same reasons. Fake or not, how would you feel if your GF / BF is in a sex scene with someone else? She isn't doing favors. She is doing Adult Entertainment. And if you ask why is she doing it you'll see it is because there many adults that want that kind of entertainment. There is a market for that and if people are willing to do it there will be people willing to pay for it. Work, man. That's only work. Also you are doing alot of assumptions in your argument. I know it's your own opinion and nobody as the right to say that it's right or wrong because there is not right or wrong. But you should try to broad and open your mind a little more. Try to see things from other perspectives. Cheers
To have an open mind about it yes, I understand some people do it for work. Some people think its ok, that is fine. I have a wife and a daughter. My wife would not be ok with me dancing naked for money, nor would I be ok with her doing it.
I would not be ok with my daughter stripping for money either. I understand that some people do it and that is their choice. But having an open mind does not equal thinking it is an acceptable behavior / form of work.
This is where we differ though.... You say "there is no right or wrong" but I believe there is Right and Wrong.
It is really hard for me to understand how anyone could be in a serious committed relationship with someone who gives other men lap dances for a living. Not to mention, it is a sexual favor. Paying a naked woman to dance for me, or rub up on me while I sit in a booth is paying for a sexual favor.
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How can something be a favor if you paid for it?
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On February 05 2012 00:08 EdSlyB wrote:
The real question is why would you not date a stripper?
It's only a profession. If you look at the world there is an huge number of occupations that people can do. And many of them, must be done by someone even if it is a job that nobody wants to do, right? I bet that most people that work as garbadge collectors would like to do another thing but someone has to collect garbadge. It's an honest job that puts food in the table and pays bills.
If your friend is working in adult entertainment it is only because there are people willing to pay for it. It's also an honest job that pays bills. Nothing more, nothing less. If she's a good company and you enjoy her presence then I see no reason for you don't date her. Go for it.
It's a very temporary profession. Everybody has to work a shit job at some point, but I'm not seeing stripping as the greatest resume booster for more intellectual pursuits later. I'm also getting too old for 18-19 year olds, and don't want to be involved with someone stripping into their 20s. Those are all good reasons not to date a stripper that don't have anything to do with morals. Here's the clincher tho, which you can't ignore. Stripping is definitely seen as a seedy and humiliating job in our culture. Whether you believe that as well or not, if you have higher pursuits/aren't confused/don't need help, you're probably going to get a different job, one that doesn't hinder your goals. That alone makes it more likely for the personality of a stripper to be disconcerting.
These are likelihoods, of course. These are reasons you would be suspicious, even if they are not absolute truths. The other thing, which is perhaps selfish, is that you want to be made to feel special, and her dancing with the explicit purpose of arousing other men might make you feel less special. People might cloud that in moral talk, but if you take out the 'this is absolutely wrong' and change it to 'this makes me feel bad' it's pretty reasonable.
On February 05 2012 00:46 Paperplane wrote:
How can something be a favor if you paid for it?
Favour has more than one meaning. It can mean something you do out of good will, or it can mean something closer to 'favourite' in which you choose someone ahead of others. So money in exchange for sexual favours means you've bought the favour of her sexual acts... which in many cultures are supposed to be devoted to someone special, hence, favour.
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I have dated a stripper. She was kinda stupid. She was hot, but kinda stupid. But damn, was she hot. And very open about trying out whatever I wanted sexually. But kinda stupid. She had a HUGE bouncer to beat the crap out of any guy that got too frisky with her. No touching rule is awesome. The bottom line - everyone who has a smoking hot girlfriend is used to the fact that every man around that isn't gay wants to have sex with her. It's even kind of a turn on as Sheldon explains here. If you're open minded, you shouldn't have a problem with that.
Just remember the golden rule: once a cheater, always a cheater. The fact that she's a stripper doesn't mean she is, you just need to be more careful about it.
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I think what important is not what she is doing but rather her view on what she is doing
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United States996 Posts
you live in lv right? if she works at rhino yes. treasures maybe. sapphires or any other place probably never
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On February 05 2012 00:53 Chef wrote:
Favour has more than one meaning. It can mean something you do out of good will, or it can mean something closer to 'favourite' in which you choose someone ahead of others. So money in exchange for sexual favours means you've bought the favour of her sexual acts... which in many cultures are supposed to be devoted to someone special, hence, favour.
Ah I see
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My friend dated a stripper (she started stripping after they started dating). Let's just say he became an alcoholic.
Unless it's just a "for fun" kind of relationship where you don't really care about her, dating a stripper where in our society your partner is supposed to be yours and yours only sexually is going to be stressful.
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Assuming she's not drug addicted and std ridden as the stereo type paints. I'd say do it but understand that you have to know yourself well, you can't be insecure. you have to be okay with her making more money than you no matter how hard you work, you have to not let your jealousy punish her for things she hasn't done, and you have to really control your tongue when you're angry. It takes a big man; gotta be open minded/relaxed/down to earth.
edit: and you have to be able to deal with people judging/thinking less of you both based on her profession.
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On February 05 2012 01:38 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
My friend dated a stripper (she started stripping after they started dating). Let's just say he became an alcoholic.
Unless it's just a "for fun" kind of relationship where you don't really care about her, dating a stripper where in our society your partner is supposed to be yours and yours only sexually is going to be stressful.
Why do you and other people in this thread assume that being a stripper == having sex with others? It's up to the girl to decide whether she wants to sleep with her customers or not. What one should say the concern is, is what if someone offers her $1,000 for sex or some really high number - would she do it despite being in a relationship with you? That would be the part that'd make me uneasy.
BUT, if you have enough trust and the relationship is solid, why not? There's nothing wrong with stripping, and the social norm of stripping being a frowned upon profession is w/e. As long as the person is doing stripping as a part time gig for whatever reason and not as a permanent thing, I'd be ok.
Stripping is often used as a means to an end for women.
EDIT:
A more interesting question is, would you date a porn actress.
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A lot of types of girls can become strippers. My ex-girlfriend was a stripper, although she already finished doing it by the time we met. Hard to say how I would have felt if she was still active, but suffice to say most girls don't "enjoy" stripping by any means, they just do it for the money like any other job. She was also having sex with some clients, but again, that's a monetary decision and one I assume she could choose not to make if she were in a committed relationship.
I really don't think you can define a person by what they do for a living. Obviously a certain type of girl (trashy, drug addicted) is drawn to that lifestyle but it's not always the case. Many strippers are young moms or college students trying to pay the bills. My ex in particular is probably the most intelligent girl I've ever dated and has never done drugs in her life. If you are made jealous by your girlfriend flashing her tits, don't date a stripper. Otherwise, judge her by the rest of herself and not by her occupation.
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I would not be able to do it. Its not about the job she is doing but it is about the people that she has to deal with when she is doing her job. One of my highschool friends started stripping and the people she told me about all sounded awful. Most of the other girls were addicted to hard drugs and would not dance unless under the influence, these drugs were encouraged and supplied by the bouncers and the manager was everything you would expect a strip club manager to be, a greasy cheat that got involved with some of the girls personal life. I would not be able to deal with worrying about all those types of people.
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Lol, no chance. I don't share. As a casual thing, yeah the sex would be amazing and it'd be exciting, so I'd do it for a bit, but when it comes to love, my relationships are a pretty closed club.
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I personally don't think I could do it. Feminists will hate me for this but I like the whole idea of lovers belonging solely to each other. To spend the night with a girl I love and then have her go off to work and show off her body to anyone with a bit of cash in their hands just doesn't sit right with me and in the end I think it'd be too much for me to handle.
But that doesn't mean that if you're comfortable with it you shouldn't do it.
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On February 05 2012 01:23 Liquid`Zephyr wrote:
you live in lv right? if she works at rhino yes. treasures maybe. sapphires or any other place probably never
Zephyr seems to know whats up. Snap call for any girl working at Rhino :D
I honestly wouldn't have a problem with it. Like Xeris said a lot more interesting question would be dating a porn actress... pretty sure like 90+% would say no.
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I can't imagine a stripper actually liking me, but I guess I think lowly of them, and I assume that they would think lowly of me for it. So no, I wouldn't date a stripper - it couldn't possibly be a viable relationship because I'm a judgmental asshat.
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On February 05 2012 02:39 Djzapz wrote:
I can't imagine a stripper actually liking me, but I guess I think lowly of them, and I assume that they would think lowly of me for it. So no, I wouldn't date a stripper - it couldn't possibly be a viable relationship because I'm a judgmental asshat.
Honesty ftw
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I could, even if it was very serious, the things is that work stays at work and home is home. I wouldn't go to the stripper bar to find a girlfriend, but i could date one. There are some things that i can't agree with, like i could date someone who smokes weed, but if they are junkie or start harder drugs, then no i couldn't date them, same thing with a porn star or a prostitute, its just something that violates a love agreement between them. If its fake, if she is just dancing to turn them on and grind some, idgaf, thats not sex, its not kissing, its not something that i would feel violated by.
Its mostly what you feel violated by, i wouldn't but some people would. The main thing is if the girl has her act together and her life on track, if she is doing it to do it, yeah she is a bit slutty but if she has life goals that this quick cash influx allows her to achieve, then fuck yeah do it. If its to pay for college, fuck yeah do it. If its to do it and thats all she wants to do and find a sugar daddy to pay her way afterwards, no i don't want that.
Pre-set rule ideas are stupid imo because every girl is different and humans past certain amounts of time have difficult times staying monogomous, imho its best if you aren't serious until you feel like you should be and a stripper doesn't violate that idea unless they do something that isn't called for, like having sex or kissing another dude.
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Im not sure if this has been mentioned but ALOT of strippers also get into escorting on the side as a means to make a shit ton of money. I personally would feel hesitant dating a stripper not knowing how many other guys she has fucked in her lifetime, and the possibility of fucking one while we are still together. I mean, if someone offers her $2000 for a night of sex, id be worried she wouldnt turn down the offer.
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Veigars can't beat bruisers. Sure why not 
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I could. As long as she knows what I'm comfortable with and sticks to that.
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On February 05 2012 00:40 Smoot wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2012 00:27 EdSlyB wrote:On February 04 2012 23:22 Smoot wrote:
When you are looking for a life-long partner what do you want their morals to be?
A) Someone who previously offered sexual favors for a price. (definition of favors being visual in this case)
B) Someone who believes that to be morally wrong and keeps her sexual life private.
Sure, the money is tempting. Get naked and make a ridiculous amount of cash for dancing, but later when that person is looking for someone of quality in marriage (ie: life-long partner), it would be hard to find a morally upstanding person to share your life with because they would not share those morals. (obvious from lifestyle)
I could never be with someone who extorts themselves in any fashion for money. I have certain pre-set rules in a relationship. You don't do things that would bother you if your partner did them. IE: Flirting, cheating, or dancing naked in front of the other sex....
Being friends is just fine. I have had a few female friends who stripped, and plenty of others who openly did things that I am completely against, but for a relationship I have a higher standard.
But that is just my opinion.
*Post note: I would never date an actress either for the same reasons. Fake or not, how would you feel if your GF / BF is in a sex scene with someone else? She isn't doing favors. She is doing Adult Entertainment. And if you ask why is she doing it you'll see it is because there many adults that want that kind of entertainment. There is a market for that and if people are willing to do it there will be people willing to pay for it. Work, man. That's only work. Also you are doing alot of assumptions in your argument. I know it's your own opinion and nobody as the right to say that it's right or wrong because there is not right or wrong. But you should try to broad and open your mind a little more. Try to see things from other perspectives. Cheers To have an open mind about it yes, I understand some people do it for work. Some people think its ok, that is fine. I have a wife and a daughter. My wife would not be ok with me dancing naked for money, nor would I be ok with her doing it. I would not be ok with my daughter stripping for money either. I understand that some people do it and that is their choice. But having an open mind does not equal thinking it is an acceptable behavior / form of work. This is where we differ though.... You say "there is no right or wrong" but I believe there is Right and Wrong. It is really hard for me to understand how anyone could be in a serious committed relationship with someone who gives other men lap dances for a living. Not to mention, it is a sexual favor. Paying a naked woman to dance for me, or rub up on me while I sit in a booth is paying for a sexual favor.
We don't differ. I'll explain it better.
There about 7 billion 'rights' and 7 billion 'wrongs'. Each individual has is own moral and ethic code that defines the right or wrong. So your definition of right and wrong is good according to yourself. But the same definition will not be that good according to person that sits right beside you at the waiting room of your dentist, for example.
When I said to open your mind I was talking about trying to see things from the people perspective because their definition of right or wrong will most certainly be slightly (or very) diferent of yours. Of course there is a vast number of variants that can make a person deviate from their standard 'right' and 'wrong'. That's life and that's the human being.
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I would date a stripper, but also get a job to help her out financially. I'm sure stripping nets her a good income, but does she want to do it for the rest of her life?
Maybe, but then why get a university degree? You ever ask her why she's stripping?
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The difference between an actor and a stripper is perception. Your friends and family see it differently, your partner, her friends and family see it differently and the customers sure as hell see it differently.
It's great that she sees it as a service like any other and doesn't find it demeaning. But she (and anyone she dates) still has to deal with the people who do.
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http://www.wtfpod.com/podcast/episodes/episode_234_-_jillian_lauren
"Author Jillian Lauren happens to be Marc’s neighbor. Amazingly, that’s not the most harrowing thing she’s ever been through. She discusses the details of her memoir, in which she became a highly paid escort and a concubine in the Prince of Brunei’s harem, as well as her new novel and her life since becoming a mom. "
a worthwhile listen if you like podcasts and are interested in the dating strippers topic
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On February 05 2012 02:17 Wafflelisk wrote:
Lol, no chance. I don't share. As a casual thing, yeah the sex would be amazing and it'd be exciting, so I'd do it for a bit, but when it comes to love, my relationships are a pretty closed club.
Agreed.
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well...as long as I trust her and know that she isn't fucking on the side, then it is okay. a stripper and a prostitute/porn star are completely different. I couldn't date a porn star knowing that other guys were fucking her.
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Well, I probably couldn't go and watch her do her job. I feel like that's degrading to me. But I could still date her. Also f yeah volleyball!
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On February 05 2012 03:58 Railxp wrote:http://www.wtfpod.com/podcast/episodes/episode_234_-_jillian_lauren"Author Jillian Lauren happens to be Marc’s neighbor. Amazingly, that’s not the most harrowing thing she’s ever been through. She discusses the details of her memoir, in which she became a highly paid escort and a concubine in the Prince of Brunei’s harem, as well as her new novel and her life since becoming a mom. " a worthwhile listen if you like podcasts and are interested in the dating strippers topic
Just sayin, doesn't start until like 28:00
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On February 05 2012 00:08 Hoon wrote:+ Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTQagbeCAxs
That was hilarious.
On topic, I guess I don't have anything against the profession per se, it's just that I don't think many people who choose stripping as a profession would also have the personality traits I like.
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You shouldn't date occupations, you should date girls. So as long as I like here and she's cool, intelleigent and doesn't screw around there's no problem, but maybe thats just me.
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no, because having her come home at 5am smelling like dirty old man, cigarettes and stale semen doesn't sound too appealing.
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wouldn't mind dating a stripper at all as long as she's a good person. just because someone is a stripper doesn't make them a slut or immoral. dating a hooker though...that's pushing it
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Part time stripper maybe... Full time stripper, hell no. I wouldn't be able to deal with the hours, smell of smoke, alcohol, and not to mention the creepers.
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haha well.. i joked about this with my ex. sometimes, actually. she would bring up the idea of becoming a porn actress or an idol in japan where her gravure pictures would be everywhere in magazines and photobooks---then about what her nickname would be.
i told her many times throughout our time together that i wouldnt dislike or mind incredibly much it if thats what she really wanted, since i felt very committed and wanted her to be able to explore what she wanted while we were still young.
i don't know if i could ever explain why it was like that for me, but i really thought i could learn to handle almost all of what came with that profession
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I think it really depends if she has long-term goals other than stripping, and rather or not you want to be the POTUS after you are 35.
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On February 05 2012 02:09 Xeris wrote:
Why do you and other people in this thread assume that being a stripper == having sex with others? It's up to the girl to decide whether she wants to sleep with her customers or not. What one should say the concern is, is what if someone offers her $1,000 for sex or some really high number - would she do it despite being in a relationship with you? That would be the part that'd make me uneasy.
Precisely. This is also evident in clubs/bars for servers/bartenders. You have a woman in certain outfits (depending on the establishment), in a serving position where the primary patrons are males. With an attractive, stripper, server, bartender, this woman is bombarded with requests, flirting, advances from all sorts of men. Add in the alcohol that bartenders end up consuming thanks to these men, and there become plenty of issues.
A woman that might avoid situations in the general sense, is in a completely different atmosphere, with completely different circumstances and will entertain all sorts of notions. And THEN, you have to now consider that if you have a fight or disagreement, and she has to work that night, how will the next attractive man who tries to flirt be received? Will she have had a few shots? Is she still fuming at you? What is she going to do or consider doing? The state of mind will play a big role.
I would never feel comfortable with a woman in these professions (also dependant on the establishment though). All the trust and self-confidence in the world would not be enough to overcome the availability of scenarios that raise doubt.
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I remember joking with friends about the 3 different types of girls in the world. The one night stands, the casual relationships, and the ones you take home to mom.
I could personally never "attach" myself to a stripper, like you do in a serious committed relationship. What guy really wants to bring his fiance over to his buddies house for the big game only to find out his fiance has danced naked on all of his buddies laps rubbing up on their junk?
Call me old fashioned I guess.
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On February 05 2012 02:09 Xeris wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2012 01:38 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
My friend dated a stripper (she started stripping after they started dating). Let's just say he became an alcoholic.
Unless it's just a "for fun" kind of relationship where you don't really care about her, dating a stripper where in our society your partner is supposed to be yours and yours only sexually is going to be stressful. Why do you and other people in this thread assume that being a stripper == having sex with others? It's up to the girl to decide whether she wants to sleep with her customers or not. What one should say the concern is, is what if someone offers her $1,000 for sex or some really high number - would she do it despite being in a relationship with you? That would be the part that'd make me uneasy. .
because the 'everyone has a price' threshold is more than likely a lot lower for a someone who thinks nothing of rubbing her ass on dozens and dozens of creepy and horny dudes in a night vs someone who doesn't?? it's pretty common sense
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"But she just said, it's a job like any other."
Well... it isn't actually like that at all...
I'm pretty sure everyone who voted "Yes" in that poll has never actually dated a stripper.
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On February 05 2012 07:13 Sinensis wrote:
"But she just said, it's a job like any other."
Well... it isn't actually like that at all...
I'm pretty sure everyone who voted "Yes" in that poll has never actually dated a stripper.
The question was 'would you date' not 'have you dated'.
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On February 05 2012 07:22 Daray wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2012 07:13 Sinensis wrote:
"But she just said, it's a job like any other."
Well... it isn't actually like that at all...
I'm pretty sure everyone who voted "Yes" in that poll has never actually dated a stripper. The question was 'would you date' not 'have you dated'.
I thought my stance was pretty clear but since it wasn't, no, no strippers for me thank you. The people that need the kind of money you need from stripping are usually people who do expensive, addicting, drugs. Or they are single mothers who have no other option, which is really sad.
I would date neither variety of person.
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so many stuck up people here
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On February 05 2012 07:26 Sinensis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2012 07:22 Daray wrote:On February 05 2012 07:13 Sinensis wrote:
"But she just said, it's a job like any other."
Well... it isn't actually like that at all...
I'm pretty sure everyone who voted "Yes" in that poll has never actually dated a stripper. The question was 'would you date' not 'have you dated'. I thought my stance was pretty clear but since it wasn't, no, no strippers for me thank you. The people that need the kind of money you need from stripping are usually people who do expensive, addicting, drugs. Or they are single mothers who have no other option, which is really sad. I would date neither variety of person.
You kiddings me? Im pretty no one here would date a drug addict. I think i'll stop visiting this thread, my head hurts.
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I am trying to say that stripping says "desperation" to me. I think that's reasonable. I can see how that would be attractive, but it isn't to me.
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I don't see how this could possibly go wrong, tbh.
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I've been dating a stripper for 2 years now. She made $750 last night for just dancing on stage. I don't mind it. She comes home to me. I trust her and we have an awesome relationship. I get all the benefits. None of the smoke and mirrors. I always looked at the situation if I was the stripper and she was dating me. Would I think of myself dirty because I took my clothes off? No, I'd just be doing my job. I'd be no dirty than anyone else.
She mentions a lot how a lot of girls do favors for more money in clubs where sex or bj's are not allowed. She could be making 3 grand a night if she was one of those dirty girls. Her bestfriend who is married works with her and they often say they are sisters. Her friend would lay down and she would put her mouth on her panties and pretend she was doing the dirty.
Now that I think about it, it's actually beneficial because meets all these dirty or crappy guys and loves the hell out of me when she gets home because I am not the type to go to a strip club. It's like paying to watch a rack of ribs sit there but you can't eat it.
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On February 05 2012 07:37 Sinensis wrote:
I am trying to say that stripping says "desperation" to me. I think that's reasonable. I can see how that would be attractive, but it isn't to me.
Yeah because making $500 a night doing nothing but dancing around for a few hours requires a real desperate indivudual, right? As if you wouldn't do it if you had the opportunity.
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My last girlfriend was a stripper, was highly recommended unless you are a jealous person in which case I imagine it would be horrible. But if you are not you have a girl you know is obviously hot (unless she works at a trashy place) as people will pay to see her naked, completely open about their sexuality, and often just overall is like a permanent confidence boost even if it ends up not working out.
Also they tend to do very well financially for themselves, very rarely do they call you for $ and often call you to spend money on you. Rare change of pace.
The main downside is the drug and alcohol abuse is crazy, and often girls that just start it because it's good money end up getting on something. Happened with a bunch of my ex's friends that got into it through her.
Edit: I almost forgot. the biggest downside was she watched "The Notebook", every fucking night and dragged me through it, every damn night. Fuck that movie.
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Well... I'd suspect the correlation between a stripper and a hooker is pretty damn high but maybe that's just my prejudice.
The only two strippers I personally knew, though, were also "escorts" on the side. If I were sure the girl is exclusively a stripper I'd have no problems with it at all. Let the suckers fap while I tap 
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On February 05 2012 08:52 Diamond wrote:
The main downside is the drug and alcohol abuse is crazy, and often girls that just start it because it's good money end up getting on something. Happened with a bunch of my ex's friends that got into it through her.
I would think that you would need to be doing favors on the side or be very easily persuaded to actually get hooked on drugs or alcohol...
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Ehhh I might. It is what it is.
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No, not because of what she does, but because of the baggage strippers usually have.
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Those strippers have great retirement plans I hear.
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Im fine with great fucking tits and a great fucking body even if fucking morons need to fucking watch to get a fucking boner so they can feel fucking good about themselves, as long as i get to fuck the fucking stripper.
Also fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck, cuz its a great fucking word.
fuck
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This blog reminds me of one of my girls name Freaky(Martha) ... She would go on tour to strip and do mud/food wrestling and come home loaded. Some of the stories she had were mind blowing, and she ALWAYS wanted some. We never ALL the way committed to each other, I think that's what helped us work. It didn't bother me that she was gone nor did the stigmas of her occupation. I never looked at her as a "stripper" or anything lower than a normal person. You'd be surprised how much you can learn. She did give great head too.
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Dno why you see a problem at all. Been there, done that, liked it. Actually I enjoy stuff like that.
Lots of other men staring at my gf and wanting to fuck her while I'm the one who will end up with her in bed? Yes, please. Also most of the strippers / nude models I came to know so far are REALLY carefull who they go out with and worry about discretion a lot. The word getting out that they're "slutty" is far worse for them than for most people if they're working in any serious business.
Would YOU date a stripper? Not just date but have a long term relationship with.
I'm not gonna lie.. I felt uneasy about the idea at first but.. it'd be hypocritical for me to tell my girlfriend she can't shake her booty around and then I go an act in a film where I make out with other girls.
How is that hypocritical? With my current gf and the two girls before that we had the agreement that both sides can have sex with women alone if the other party knows about it beforehand. Obviously hooking up with a 2nd girl together is more fun, but sometimes you can't arrange that. =P
Both sides can have sex with other women, fair agreement imoimo.
Edit: Basicly anything both sides agree on is completely fine in a relationship imo. No matter what it is. Just need to make your intentions clear early enough and offer something in return.
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On February 05 2012 06:55 Joedaddy wrote:
I remember joking with friends about the 3 different types of girls in the world. The one night stands, the casual relationships, and the ones you take home to mom.
I could personally never "attach" myself to a stripper, like you do in a serious committed relationship. What guy really wants to bring his fiance over to his buddies house for the big game only to find out his fiance has danced naked on all of his buddies laps rubbing up on their junk?
Call me old fashioned I guess.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna–whore_complex
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Totally, In a heartbeat. Gtfo white knights imo.
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i do it in a sec, but only if i planned to not really like her.
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Personally I wouldn't, but if you have a really really really open mindset then it shouldn't matter.
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I could be in a serious relationship with one because, it's not like they are going to be doing it forever (unless that's their only goal in life, in which case it wouldn't be someone I would be interested in being in a relationship with anyway). I totally understand the mindset of, "I'm doing this as a temporary thing because it pays more than working retail or at a crummy campus job, and I have bills and need to pay for school." If someone wants to get an education and go on to have a good career, but ends up stripping for a few years in college to make ends meet, I wouldn't have a huge problem with that.
As long as the relationship is healthy, and you're confident that they won't bone their customers, there's not much wrong with it ~~
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Casual relationship, yes. Something more serious, probably not. It would take an exceptional woman to change my mind on that.
As Hawk said:
because the 'everyone has a price' threshold is more than likely a lot lower for a someone who thinks nothing of rubbing her ass on dozens and dozens of creepy and horny dudes in a night vs someone who doesn't?? it's pretty common sense
Simply by virtue of what they are already doing, I am naturally more concerned about what else they may do...
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On February 05 2012 15:08 Brett wrote:Casual relationship, yes. Something more serious, probably not. It would take an exceptional woman to change my mind on that. As Hawk said: Show nested quote +because the 'everyone has a price' threshold is more than likely a lot lower for a someone who thinks nothing of rubbing her ass on dozens and dozens of creepy and horny dudes in a night vs someone who doesn't?? it's pretty common sense Simply by virtue of what they are already doing, I am naturally more concerned about what else they may do...
As I said above, the strippers/nude models I know have much higher moral standards when it comes to relationships than other women. Why? Because being percevied as "slutty" means they're pretty much done if they work in establishments that are not brothels under the hood. Also if a girl who looks gorgeous as hell commits to a relationship AND has her own income anyway it's highly likely she's in it for the guy.
"Stripper" doesn't mean she's the girl you always see in videos and ends up as a hooker.
Jesus, some guys and their prejudices.
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Now that I think of it, this thread reminds me of what would happen if someone went over to a teen girl forum and posted a topic called "Dating a Gamer?". A lot of girls would vote yes, and all the girls who vote no would say "Ew, all gamers are unwashed, nerdy virgins." Stereotypes don't apply to everybody.
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Occupation is just that an occupation. To me it the person inside that we get along and there is some chemistry then I'm good to go. Frankly a stripper is probably a little shallow/vapid for me but you never know - shouldnt judge.
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On February 05 2012 18:47 tdt wrote:
Occupation is just that an occupation. To me it the person inside that we get along and there is some chemistry the I'm good to go. Frankly a stripper is probably a little shallow/vapid for me but you never know.
Classifying all strippers that way makes me think that you are probably a little shallow/vapid, but you never know.
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I would purely based on how mature she treats her job.
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I... hmm, this really is a tough question. Depends on the person I guess, if everything else was perfect, then I guess I'd go for it, but it does make you a little uneasy I'll have to admit. Guess you just have to be there to know, too hard to make assumptions from behind a monitor.
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Her occupation means little to me, it's all about chemistry.
The girl you're talking about seems real smart, I'd be more than willing to go on a date with her and get to know her.
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I wouldn't, but I respect the choice of such a profession.
I simply value my body and being as something I don't "give" easily and expect the same from my partner.
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I dont think a woman like that would have much incommon with me, thus it most likelly wouldnt be a match anyway. But if it, for some reason, would be a match made in heaven i probably wouldnt care.
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is she cool and nice?
Can she support herself when she gets older (past stripper age) ?
It doesn't really matter what she's doing now as long as in the long term things work out it'll be fine. People choose how they earn money, as long as it isn't hurting anyone else you really should not judge her otherwise.
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oh yeah please more pictures ._____. CMON!
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