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CPTBadAss
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States594 Posts
January 14 2012 18:12 GMT
#1
So I’ve written a lot about my forays into Brood War. But I’m first and foremost a StarCraft 2 diehard fan/player. Unfortunately I’m also a student and my university requires me to go on internships. Between my engineering classes and/or working at my internships for 40 hours a week, I don’t play nearly as much as I wish I could. I easily fall under the Day[9] category of casual try-hard. However, I really really want to change this so I recently tried to play way more. In December, I bet a friend of mine dinner that if we both played 50 ladder matches, I’d have a better win-rate. I won with a 46% win rate. But it wasn’t about the food, the bragging rights, or the (sad) win rate. It was all about the breakthroughs that I made.

TvP

For the longest time, this was my worst matchup. I believe that I need to put pressure on early when I play any game. So I couldn’t figure out a good opening and then would die to the Protoss deathball that would inevitably roll me. It always saddened me that I’d hear the pros sneer at this matchup, always calling it Terran imbalanced but I never got that feeling.

Finally one day (T)ThorZaIN gave me a build idea on his stream... Terran opens 1/1/1 into expansion. While my expansion command center is building, I harass with 2-3 banshees. I then transition into a marauder heavy bio ball with medivacs. Late game, the build goes into ghosts.

The two ideas I realized are that if I allow Protoss to macro, Protoss’ late game upgrades are way stronger than mine because of chronoboost. If I apply pressure, Protoss gets spooked and I can force more units to be made. If Protoss decides to attack me with these extra units, I can move a banshee back in to harass and draw some of his army back, buying me time to mount a defense. I also realized that the pressure shouldn’t stop early game in TvP. If I attack, I should also pressure on another front with drops or more banshees. Even if I don’t micro, it causes my enemy to split his attention.

Drops

Drops are fast becoming my favorite way to attack. I like catching people out of position with my pushes so I’ll often drop behind my pushes. I can't really multitask, but it often causes my gold-level enemies to panic and make poor decisions with their army control. I also love the warm fuzzy I get when I decimate a worker line or snipe a crucial piece of tech. I remember playing an hour long TvZ on Tal’darim Altar. Zerg had gone with mutalisks/speedlings/banelings while I was trying the build that (T)Bomber uses, showcased on Day[9] Daily #395. I ended up going Marine/Medivac/Tank/Vikings.

I kept having terrible engagements when I tried to face the baneling ball straight up. In retrospect I should’ve had better scouting, better positioning on his creep, and better tank spread. Since I was behind, I decided to drop his base. I managed to snipe his spire before he could make mutalisks and then fended off his front door bust. As I was really behind, I started dropping all over the map. Zerg transitioned to Ultras while his bust relegated me to marines/medivacs/banshees. I had 3 drops going around at once. Again since my multitask is bad, I would only control one drop at a time. But I would sacrifice a small drop at 9 o’clock to draw Zerg out of position then drop his main at 11 o’clock and snipe all of his tech. When he returned to 11 o’clock, I’d drop back at 9 o’clock to kill off his hatches. It was glorious. Using drops to force positioning was an amazing accomplishment for me.

Thin Defenses

Day[9] is always talking about his love of thin defenses, and I finally experienced a few. I held off a few 4gates with 4 marines, a hellion, and a banshee. And I traded with Protoss to live. Every single time it happens, I’m in full on panic mode. It gets my heart racing more than a win or loss does. Whenever I watch (T)SeleCT play, it’s his thin defenses that allow him to start his comebacks. I’m trying to integrate that into my play; to not give up so soon.



I would love to hear about any breakthroughs the readers might have. I’d also appreciate any tips and advice you may have. Finally, I’m looking for Protosses and Zergs to practice with so if anyone is a gold or platinum level player, please feel free to message me.

****
I'll keep on struggling, 'cause that's the measure of a man | "That was the plan: To give him some hope, and then crush him" -Stephano
HungrySC2
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States191 Posts
January 14 2012 18:45 GMT
#2
I wish i could share your experiences with breakthroughs... Sadly that rarely happens.

So far I have 44 games in today. And I've learned 25 ways to lose to Protoss pvt and only 3 ways to win.

That leaves me with 70% loss ratio today... But its alright...

more gg more skill.

"First say to yourself what you would be; And then do what you have to do. (Epictetus)
CPTBadAss
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States594 Posts
January 14 2012 19:24 GMT
#3
@HungrySC2

No worries man. Some days you win some, some days you lose. You never know, tomorrow you'll be rolling nerds with a 70% win rate. Keep playing.
I'll keep on struggling, 'cause that's the measure of a man | "That was the plan: To give him some hope, and then crush him" -Stephano
aebriol
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway2066 Posts
January 14 2012 19:39 GMT
#4
On January 15 2012 03:12 CPTBadAss wrote:
In December, I bet a friend of mine dinner that if we both played 50 ladder matches, I’d have a better win-rate. I won with a 46% win rate.

This is so incredibly funny to me I had a good laugh, thanks
mizU
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States12125 Posts
January 14 2012 22:41 GMT
#5
Defended a 4 gate with 4 marines a hellion and a banshee? whoaaaaaaaa.
if happy ever afters did exist <3 @watamizu_
Fallen33
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States596 Posts
January 15 2012 04:54 GMT
#6
doesn't hurt that you've got a good coach... whom might that be?!
"Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever." - Napoleon Bonaparte ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
CPTBadAss
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States594 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-15 06:12:44
January 15 2012 06:11 GMT
#7
@mizU
Dude, it was a combination of good luck, SCV repairs, and good luck. No skill, don't worry. And maybe some slight exaggeration there.

@Fallen
Yeah, I have Select and Thorzain as good inspiration.

@aebriol
Hey man, you gotta motivate yourself one way or another right? And a win is a win, no matter what hehe.
I'll keep on struggling, 'cause that's the measure of a man | "That was the plan: To give him some hope, and then crush him" -Stephano
aebriol
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway2066 Posts
January 15 2012 10:04 GMT
#8
On January 15 2012 15:11 CPTBadAss wrote:
@aebriol
Hey man, you gotta motivate yourself one way or another right? And a win is a win, no matter what hehe.

Absolutely! I was referring to the fact that ideally both players should have roughly 50% win rate due to how the ladder system works, so I just think it's a really funny thing to bet about.
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