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EP4: eSports Production Value: MLG Live

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moge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 01:38:16
January 09 2012 12:35 GMT
#1


Note: You can view the other episodes in this series by clicking here

UPDATE
I just got a very nice PM from someone from MLG letting me know that they actually use stretched nylon for their back wall. Incredible, honestly I'm kicking myself for not knowing this but it is a great solution. Stretched nylon (stapeled to the back of the frame) is a dead simple idea. Well done.

MLG Live
This week I take a look at the setup and gear that MLG Live uses for it's Twitch.TV set. I've added navigation links to the video to help people skip to the parts that they may be interested in.

Things I look at are: the caster desk, tips to building that back wall, monitors on set, several types of lighting, their camera setup and discussing a few of their camera angles.

MLG, for a lack of a better phrase, built this set right. They made very smart choice in their set design, lighting and cameras and maximize the flexibility of one set to accommodate multiple shows. Their entire setup revolves around back-lit plexiglass walls. These walls are not only clean in design but help light the s[ace and provide a warm and engaging environment.

One thing they do particularly well is lighting. Using a combination of Kino Flo Diva lights (no pun) and fernels they are able to create very soft, very even lighting with limited shadows. These lights are not cheap but they pay for themselves in versatility.

They use multiple Sony PMW-EX3 camera on set. Again, not a cheap choice but very much worth the price tag with their picture quality and overall versatility.

So on it's face I don't have much critique for MLG but instead I spend most of this episode discussing the how and why's of their choices. I spend a little time talking about ways to do what they did on a budget and I also give a quick lesson in color temperatures and power supplies - exciting stuff, I know

I know these videos are long and I'm not sure I intend most people to watch them through; instead I provide navigation to allow you to jump around to the sections that are of interest or relevant to you. As always I hope you dig the ideas of this series. I'll be making a new one next week, now who to talk about next week...hmmm.

GG!

Jason

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gentle lover of esports - Product Manager for http://iHearteSports.com
Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
January 09 2012 13:31 GMT
#2
Saw your blizzard Cup was really intresting,definatley gonna watch this one now will edit later after ive seen the whole thing.
Forever Mirin Zyzz Son of Zeus Brother of Hercules Father of the Aesthetics
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
January 09 2012 13:59 GMT
#3
Welcome to set design.

Cheers Jason. Nice to see people doing this.
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
January 09 2012 14:53 GMT
#4
Really enjoy your insight in these videos. We definitely need more of this type of experience in the scene.
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
January 09 2012 15:02 GMT
#5
This kind of deconstruction and analysis is immensely helpful/insightful for the esports scene, keep it up!!
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LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
January 09 2012 15:22 GMT
#6
This is really interesting. Plenty of people should watch and learn from this.
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bbm
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1320 Posts
January 09 2012 15:22 GMT
#7
First time I saw you was when I watched you discuss dreamhack's casting sofa, been hooked since. You talk about some fascinating stuff.
By.Sun or By.Rain, he always delivers
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
January 09 2012 15:26 GMT
#8
Can't watch the video now but from what i read: nice.

Some critic: "Their" not "There" if you talk about their belongings. Dunno if its just me but it makes reading a bit harder :D
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moge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
January 09 2012 15:34 GMT
#9
On January 10 2012 00:26 bluQ wrote:
Some critic: "Their" not "There" if you talk about their belongings. Dunno if its just me but it makes reading a bit harder :D


HA! Thanks for the catch I wrote this at 6:30am so I don't think my brain for firing on all cylinders.
gentle lover of esports - Product Manager for http://iHearteSports.com
laguu
Profile Joined October 2009
Finland278 Posts
January 09 2012 15:37 GMT
#10
Really interesting stuff even though I have nothing to do with video production. Can you do an ep about NASL some time? A lot of people seem to agree that their production is doing certain things wrong but can't really point out accurately what that is. I'd love to hear what you have to say about them. I'd also like to hear more about the audio side of production, using music, etc. Thanks!
Arguing with a fool proves there are two.
moge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
January 09 2012 15:42 GMT
#11
On January 10 2012 00:37 laguu wrote:
Really interesting stuff even though I have nothing to do with video production. Can you do an ep about NASL some time? A lot of people seem to agree that their production is doing certain things wrong but can't really point out accurately what that is. I'd love to hear what you have to say about them. I'd also like to hear more about the audio side of production, using music, etc. Thanks!


I'd love to do audio problem is I actually know very little about the technical side of sound. I can however do an ep on using audio effectively in ways that you mentioned: transitions, openings, etc.

I agree that NASL got a little hammered last season - and for good reason. However, they have a new set this year and I am hopeful that this season will be much better. It seems like they brought in a solid production staff, at least from what I have seen to date, so I'm looking for good things to come from NASL.

I think doing a retrospective does have value, though. Even if not specific to them we can point out general items, like that damned-able camera movement, that could be applied to most any production.
gentle lover of esports - Product Manager for http://iHearteSports.com
cmen15
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1519 Posts
January 09 2012 17:06 GMT
#12
Very Interesting video, I really like that fact that you added the tabs to jump to different points based on what you want to hear about ha. I enjoyed watching it, Thanks for sharing!!!
Greed leads to just about all losses.
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
January 09 2012 19:28 GMT
#13
blizzard cup review and this are great, hopefully people step up their production value
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obsKura
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland1061 Posts
January 09 2012 19:52 GMT
#14
I love those videos even though I don't know anything about stuff like that. Thanks a bunch for this! Hopefully many people get to see this.

Gratz for the Spotlight on the front page, you've earned it.
C9 ~^v^~ In EE-sama we trust. ~^v^~ C9
Fraidnot
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States824 Posts
January 09 2012 19:59 GMT
#15
Love it, please keep doing this.
Echuu
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden42 Posts
January 09 2012 20:12 GMT
#16
Awesome work, will definitely watch the previous ones. Also loved the ROI video back in the day. Keep up the good work with these and iheartesports.
Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
January 09 2012 20:48 GMT
#17
This is great. Applying unique talents to the scene in creative ways is the best way to contribute awesome content. A lot of people I feel try to be like other people who hit it big and attempt to copy what they did, but quality information and input like this show is the way to go. Keep it up, Ill subscribe to more of this.
Netsky
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1155 Posts
January 09 2012 22:01 GMT
#18
Really enjoyed it - hope you keep making these.
Seanza
Profile Joined November 2011
171 Posts
January 09 2012 22:11 GMT
#19
Absolutely LOVE this series. Wish it came out earlier on the Sunday, though... always has me running late for work on Monday morning :D

Glad to see you continue to put your time into esports, Jason. We all appreciate it.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
January 10 2012 00:36 GMT
#20
i didnt think id be interesting but once i started watching you drew me in with your passion and knowledge
nekoconeco
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia359 Posts
January 10 2012 01:50 GMT
#21
Great work as usual
My Photoshop stream (requests welcome) --> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=304143
tsuxiit
Profile Joined July 2010
1305 Posts
January 10 2012 02:18 GMT
#22
This is really cool. Enjoying every episode.
SaBoT
Profile Joined March 2011
United States34 Posts
January 10 2012 02:34 GMT
#23
I've learned more about lighting in 10 minutes than I've ever known. o_o

Awesome show! I love seeing all of this behind the scenes stuff.
snowbird
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Germany2044 Posts
January 10 2012 03:00 GMT
#24
Your blog is always interesting to read/watch.

Great work!
@riotsnowbird
TheTofuShop
Profile Joined April 2010
United States57 Posts
January 10 2012 04:50 GMT
#25
So great to see some more information and critique on Production Values in streaming. Stuff like this can only improve the content produced by the community, thanks again!
My life for Aiur
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
January 10 2012 05:20 GMT
#26
Another great video. Even though I am not involved with production of any sort, I still find your videos extremely interesting and enjoyable to watch.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
January 10 2012 05:47 GMT
#27
It is incredibly cool to see someone break down MLG Live on this level. As a guy who used to work there on a daily basis but never fully understood the intricacies of production, it’s really fascinating to see Jason break down the nuance of what is being done.
:O
shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
January 10 2012 06:34 GMT
#28
this is like a day[9] daily series for production, really awesome and educational!
Photographer@shindags || twitch.tv/shindigs
Vortigan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark306 Posts
January 10 2012 14:19 GMT
#29
thanks for this. I really enjoyed it. I tried googling your sig, but what kind of productions do you actually do?
moge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 16:07:19
January 10 2012 15:03 GMT
#30
On January 10 2012 23:19 Vortigan wrote:
thanks for this. I really enjoyed it. I tried googling your sig, but what kind of productions do you actually do?


I cover a little about myself in EP0 'Introduction'. In short, I've been working in production for about 15 years. Mostly theatre, dance, circus and television. I've also been the live event production manager and/or producer for many events with budgets ranging for 30k-250k+.

I lectured on digital filmmaking for a while and still guest lecture a fair amount though these days it is more technology that I speak on rather than production.

Thanks everyone for the awesome feedback and encouragement. It's been crazy seeing this kind of response especially from people who work in eSports production. It is very much appreciated!
gentle lover of esports - Product Manager for http://iHearteSports.com
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
January 10 2012 15:10 GMT
#31
experience in esports, just like any other field, is tough to come by. thanks for sharing, as these sorts of production value tips are sorely needed ^_^
PhotographerLiquipedia. Drop me a pm if you've got questions/need help.
SchAmToo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1141 Posts
January 11 2012 14:54 GMT
#32
Really enjoyed that video, and good job MLG for the production value. Kinda makes you really appreciate the amount of work these people put in, and ingenuity in design, to promote/exhibit esports
twitch.tv/schamtoo | twitter.com/schamtoo
Sireph
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States43 Posts
January 11 2012 14:54 GMT
#33
Woah, this is really cool and a huge ego boost. I cannot tell you how awesome it is to hear that someone appreciates the amount of times I've wiped down that desk or set up those lights. Just for a little clarification, the cables that run from the ex3s to our board are SDI cables and we also use Lowell Omnis for cross keying/filling in what the Kino flos miss. :D
MLG Technical Director | Go MLG Live Production Crew! | MLG.tv!
Audi309
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States90 Posts
January 12 2012 02:54 GMT
#34
<3 this concept for a show. It feels like a day[9] daily for us production nerds :D
Gofarman
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada645 Posts
January 12 2012 05:50 GMT
#35
Thanks for this, I will be watching more.

Anything that could help when I finally get shit off the ground will be amazing.

GL GG
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KissKiss
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom136 Posts
January 13 2012 12:07 GMT
#36
Next week: What NASL did wrong? :D

Also, Gin is awesome.
ReAson75
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States130 Posts
January 15 2012 16:18 GMT
#37
This is absolutely amazing. Thanks for posting this. Your insight is very useful and much appreciated. Keep up the good work! :D
nekoconeco
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia359 Posts
January 20 2012 07:51 GMT
#38
Some behinds the scenes shots of MBC studio.

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bouba
Profile Joined September 2010
France6 Posts
January 21 2012 16:01 GMT
#39
great show, it has good information and the way you deliver, is really easy to understand.
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