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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
December 27 2011 18:29 GMT
#21
Deleted the account?
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
colingrad
Profile Joined March 2008
United States210 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-27 19:08:50
December 27 2011 19:07 GMT
#22
it appears he changed the name to @oceanstratagy

edit: i gave him too much credit and spelled strategy correctly when in reality he has again gone for a different spelling
For the Emperor!
PJFrylar
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States350 Posts
December 27 2011 19:07 GMT
#23
I really can't believe he carried on the way he did. He had to have known it was career suicide and would lead to nothing good.

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/paul-christoforo/1/295/835
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/paul-christoforo/4/492/836

I wonder if it is the same guy. It is the same name and lists the same college, but it could just be a wild coincidence. It would however explain how he is seemingly so bad at PR with his degree being in Culinary Arts.
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
December 27 2011 20:29 GMT
#24
What a trainwreck. I'd feel bad for him if he didn't come across as such a douchebag.

I mean, I can understand saying stuff you didn't mean in person sometimes but this was email. He had all the time to stop and think if this was a good idea. I have to think he truly believes that this is an acceptable way to talk to people.
"Sending people in rockets to other planets is a waste of money better spent on sending rockets into people on this planet."
dangthatsright
Profile Joined July 2011
1160 Posts
December 27 2011 20:29 GMT
#25
Dude what Culinary Arts degree = master at PR

More seriously, I'm pretty sure you only need an element of common sense to do better than that, nothing terribly special such as an appropriate degree.
SaYyId
Profile Joined August 2010
Portugal277 Posts
December 27 2011 20:43 GMT
#26
I don't think it will ever be a meme since it's just too big of a sentence.
Anyways, always interesting to see someone fucking up this badly. lol @"IGN and whatever have my back" xd
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LlamaNamedOsama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1900 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-27 21:54:49
December 27 2011 21:48 GMT
#27
There have been a couple of news articles about how terrible this guy is, haha. One of them had his linkedin account, which, ironically, reads in part of the description:

Last, we believe in the power of great relationships, founded on honor, accountability and being responsible – and we value being there for people and their business --- when it matters most
1. Our clients' interests come first. Our experience demonstrates that if we serve our clients with excellence, our success follows.

2. Integrity and honesty are at the core of our business values. We expect our leaders and people to maintain high ethical standards in everything they do, both in their work for Ocean Marketing and in their personal lives.


[Edit]: Oh, and memes have been made

http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/35l3on/

Dario Wünsch: I guess...Creator...met his maker *sunglasses*
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
December 27 2011 23:53 GMT
#28
lol at this guys apologies. "I underestimated you and its cost me a lot of trouble..." So it's ok to treat someone like that, you just have to make sure they won't stand up for themselves first.
holynorth
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States590 Posts
December 28 2011 00:16 GMT
#29
Speaking of memes....

http://i.imgur.com/r5RCE.png


(This is fron Reddit, posted by TheDutchess)
Ruffian
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States369 Posts
December 28 2011 00:46 GMT
#30
Holy crap that was terrible. He couldn't even type a proper email. I was seriously cringing through the entire thing.
There's a class for this (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ*:・゚✧
Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
December 28 2011 00:58 GMT
#31
I feel sorry for the guy who actually invented the controller and wants it to succeed. OceanMarketing seem to have probably sent his product into a nosedive towards failure.
Tzel
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States72 Posts
December 28 2011 01:41 GMT
#32
might have missed that somoene posted this, but there's been an update: http://penny-arcade.com/resources/an-update1.html

or, if it's not loading -
+ Show Spoiler +
I just wanted to post an update with some of the stuff that has happened over on my end with regards to all this Ocean Marketing stuff.

Around midnight last night Paul sent me a mail saying that I could expect to hear from their attorneys. As of right now that still has not happened and honestly I don’t expect it will. Our attorneys (who are real people with an office and everything) are ready should it get to that point though.

At 7:12am this morning I got another mail from Paul. It was one line and simply said:

“You have the power Mike Please make it stop”

The reality is that once I had posted the emails I didn’t have the power anymore. The Internet had it now and nothing I said or did was going to change that.

An hour later I got a more complete apology:

Hey Mike,

I just wanted to apologize for the way our emails progressed I didn’t know how big your site was and I really didn’t believe you ran Pax , So for what’s its worth I am very sorry. Your post has obviously made my life very difficult and I have not slept yet dealing with all the spam and personal information intrusion as well as my family being smeared on the internet.

If you can please accept my apology and anything you can do to help if not me my son and wife please do. I have apologized to Dave and apologized to you what else can I do please tell me so I can make things good. I obviously care or I would not be emailing you.


I think there is a big difference between being sorry and being sorry you got caught. I have a real problem with bullies. I spent my childhood moving from school to school and I got made fun of everyplace I landed. I feel like Paul is a bully and maybe that’s why I have no sympathy here. Someday every bully meets and even bigger bully and maybe that’s me in this case. It’s the same thing that happened with Jack Thompson. It might not always make the most business sense and it is a policy that has caused us some legal problems, but I really don’t give a shit about that. When these assholes threaten me or Penny Arcade I just laugh. I will personally burn everything I’ve made to the fucking ground if I think I can catch them in the flames.

-Gabe out
I don't suffer from insanity; I enjoy every minute of it.
CrazyAsian
Profile Joined October 2010
United States188 Posts
December 28 2011 01:45 GMT
#33
Who knew there were worse people out there than Gus Ledesma?
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
December 28 2011 01:47 GMT
#34
It's hilarious how his attitude changes when he realised it's Penny Arcade, tries to be apologetic but fails miserably and then goes back to his foul-mouthed don't-give-a-fuck (in the bad and not cool way) when that doesn't work.

Also I really question how people can even start to do business with him in the first place. I would love to read some of his pitch emails for the laughs. Maybe his wwebsite is really good.
Starleague Forever. RIP KT Violet~
holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
December 28 2011 02:17 GMT
#35
A reddit user found a court document of him being charged for beating his wife and kotaku tracked him down as a user on some steroid website (roid rage much?).
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
December 28 2011 07:30 GMT
#36
The internet does not much care for it's ilk being treated poorly. Even more so when you poke at one of the Pillars of Geekdom in the US if not the world. What a terrible mistake to make. Sadly the product controller itself looks really neat and useful. I hope that it still does well because frankly this guy is a scumbag but that's not the controllers fault.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Sokalo
Profile Joined May 2010
United States375 Posts
December 28 2011 07:32 GMT
#37
As to PA having hiccups. Via his twitter.
@rkhoo
Robert Khoo
Many are asking: It's not any one place that's slowing down PA this morning. Based on stats it's the whole Internet descending upon us.
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it."
NeoLearner
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Belgium1847 Posts
December 28 2011 07:41 GMT
#38
Got to hand it to the guys from "Penny Arcade"

Holy crap, that guy really looks like a douche. If I got "Dec 17" as an answer, without any update what so ever, followed by a reduction in price of 10$, I would've cancelled on the spot.

Don't know why, but even his final "apology" seems douchy to me. "Sorry man, I really didn't believe you ran Pax". What does that have to do with ANYTHING?
Bankai - Correlation does not imply causation
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
December 28 2011 07:48 GMT
#39
Rofl i'm laughing so hard right now because I see sales type like this guy every day @ work.

props for him actually going out and being a douche about it though, I personally wanted to do that to a client so many times... the name dropping wasn't cool though lol.
Rillanon.au
Forgottenfrog
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1268 Posts
December 28 2011 07:54 GMT
#40
Props to Mike Krahulik. That dude from Ocean Marketing is a total douchebag. Feel bad for the controller though but man that guy was a douchebag.
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