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mewbert
United States291 Posts
You cant just post something highly controversial and expect everyone to respect it. | ||
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
On December 03 2011 10:37 L3gendary wrote: It's a nice sentiment but I don't see wishing as "giving back" to the community. It's one thing to write a blog about how much you like TL/ what it means to you but to claim like your doing it a service somehow by praying is something I don't understand. I agree. I guess it's nice that OP isn't forcing his views on anybody, but when people say that you should give back to the community, they probably mean that you should .. actually do something. The notion that everything that happens God wants/allows to happen is a very dangerous one and indeed it paints God in a ... not very favourable light, to put it kindly. | ||
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Cham
797 Posts
On December 03 2011 10:29 Couvre wrote: Yes, ignoring problems instead of dealing with them does tend to make people happy. It is safe and easy. Sometimes the problems are overwhelming and you don't have the ability to help at all, and that is okay. But believing that if you close your eyes, all the problems will solve themselves is harmful. What exactly am I ignorant of? Let me try a different angle. You took the time to come into this blog and read it. The writer only had good intentions of doing something nice for a community he cares about. No matter how he wanted to go about this the fact is he just wanted to do something nice. On December 03 2011 08:58 ThePhan2m wrote: I will be praying for my family and friends & many other things. For the past 5 years, Teamliquid has been a part of my family. Please show some respect Please bear over with this blog if you don't like it Please do not make this blog a discussion on religious matters This says it all. You come in here stating your beliefs and how you think his beliefs are bad, and it is not necessary. Now I'm not advocating everyone should be nice all the time but when someone makes a blog out of the kindness in their heart to just do something for a community they care about it is utterly rude to come into it and start spouting any opinions whatsoever. If you want to express your feelings on religion make your own topic. If you must have your +1 to your post count so bad, say thanks and move on. | ||
swanized
Canada2480 Posts
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Cham
797 Posts
On December 03 2011 10:57 swanized wrote: "Oh god someone is trying to be nice and help by doing something I believe is absolutely useless,time to attack his beliefs and let him know how ignorant he is being in my opinion" gosh... I am glad at least 1 other person shares my concern. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14193 Posts
On December 03 2011 10:47 mewby wrote: If you really want to help people why dont you go out and do something? You cant just post something highly controversial and expect everyone to respect it. So I should go into the gay sc2 players thread and shit on them beacuse thats a controversial topic and I don't have to respect it? I should go into the thread about people that like brood war and shit on them beacuse I shouldn't have to respect that. Just trying to apply your logic. All props man | ||
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GiygaS
Canada1043 Posts
On December 03 2011 10:59 Cham wrote: I am glad at least 1 other person shares my concern. We are the silent majority sir. | ||
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Juliette
United States6003 Posts
If possible, I'd appreciate a prayer for all of my friends so that they can handle all the stress they're going through and perhaps look and be happy like they all used to be. Thank you very much  . | ||
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Golden Ghost
Netherlands1041 Posts
On December 03 2011 10:05 Couvre wrote: I care because his statement, "I believe in God, that what I ask him, if it is according to His will, will happen," is justification for ignoring all problems. Maybe you haven't experienced the horrible consequence of such a belief yet. You are absolutely right if you say that a prayer alone won't fix a problem. However some people get strength out of them and that in combination with an appropriate action can help for some people. That's also why I said a prayer on it's own can't do any harm. It's the lack of action to follow up with your prayer that does the harm. God won't fix your problem for you. He can help with giving you strength. A prayer on it's own always reminds me of this joke: A man is sitting on the roof of his house after the whole area is flooded. A man in a rowboat is coming past and shouts at him: Come down. I'll get you to safety. No says the man on the roof. God will help me. Next some guys on a raft come by: Come down. We'll get you to safety. I appreciate the offer but God will help me. Then an helicopter flies by: Climb on up. We'll get you to safety! No thank you. God will save me. Finally the man on the roof dies from exhaustion and arrives in the heaven. He goes to God and asks him: I have always been a good Catholic. Why didn't you sent help? God answers: I sent you a rowboat, a raft and an helicopter. What more do you want from me? The moral of the story is: A prayer is a nice thing but without action from yourself it won't save you. You have to put in the effort to reach your goals. God can only assist. | ||
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KhAmun
United States1005 Posts
On December 03 2011 10:47 mewby wrote: If you really want to help people why dont you go out and do something? You cant just post something highly controversial and expect everyone to respect it. He can expect you to respect it, he made a conservative post based on something that is important to him and people came in and disrespected him and pushed their view onto him. He did not push anything on to you, he did not insinuate anything about the views you hold or others like you. YOU came in here and decided what he is doing is not good enough or valuable in your opinion, and you let him know. On a forum that is supposed to be very mature we have come to expect that people respect others' opinions, especially when presented with good intent and conservatively as happened here. Use your brain... | ||
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Kitkatzy
United States213 Posts
On December 03 2011 11:07 Golden Ghost wrote: You are absolutely right if you say that a prayer alone won't fix a problem. However some people get strength out of them and that in combination with an appropriate action can help for some people. That's also why I said a prayer on it's own can't do any harm. It's the lack of action to follow up with your prayer that does the harm. God won't fix your problem for you. He can help with giving you strength. A prayer on it's own always reminds me of this joke: A man is sitting on the roof of his house after the whole area is flooded. A man in a rowboat is coming past and shouts at him: Come down. I'll get you to safety. No says the man on the roof. God will help me. Next some guys on a raft come by: Come down. We'll get you to safety. I appreciate the offer but God will help me. Then an helicopter flies by: Climb on up. We'll get you to safety! No thank you. God will save me. Finally the man on the roof dies from exhaustion and arrives in the heaven. He goes to God and asks him: I have always been a good Catholic. Why didn't you sent help? God answers: I sent you a rowboat, a raft and an helicopter. What more do you want from me? The moral of the story is: A prayer is a nice thing but without action from yourself it won't help you. We are in agreement then. | ||
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OmniEulogy
Canada6600 Posts
On December 03 2011 10:57 swanized wrote: "Oh god someone is trying to be nice and help by doing something I believe is absolutely useless,time to attack his beliefs and let him know how ignorant he is being in my opinion" gosh... if I didn't read this 2nd page of comments before posting this is exactly what I would have said. =/ | ||
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iSometric
2221 Posts
On December 03 2011 10:08 xsksc wrote: I like how the guy asks for a little respect and gets all this crap. Well, this is the internet for you. | ||
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Syrupjuice
United States173 Posts
People… this is a blog post. If the person wants to say they are praying, and extending an invitation to pray for others, let them be. If you don't agree with the philosophy, that's fine. But, what thought processes led you to take the liberty to discredit his ideals and then insert your own with such authority? If he wanted your opinions on the matter he would have either invited them, or posted this in a different forum section. Just in case people didn't read the Original Post all the way through, it is clearly stated, OP wrote: Please show some respect Please bear over with this blog if you don't like it Please do not make this blog a discussion on religious matters Anyway, more power to ThePhan2m, best of luck to ya. | ||
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Luepert
United States1934 Posts
Think about it this way: If God doesn't exist, nothing happens. If God does exist(which you can't disprove), he might help you because a stranger prayed for your ungrateful ass. Mathematically there is a chance of positive Divine intervention in your life and no chance of negative. Thank you for praying for TL. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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FractalsOnFire
Australia1756 Posts
On December 03 2011 16:03 Luepert wrote: Guys who are complaining that he isn't praying for unfortunate people, hes praying for you. Think about it this way: If God doesn't exist, nothing happens. If God does exist(which you can't disprove), he might help you because a stranger prayed for your ungrateful ass. Mathematically there is a chance of positive Divine intervention in your life and no chance of negative. Thank you for praying for TL. What happens if someone prays for a negative outcome? Who are we to claim how god thinks? He could create a tragic event 'for the greater good'. Who knows. To say that there is no possibility of a negative outcome is foolish. Plus people believe in the devil and that he too, is able to influence the world around us. Also i don't agree with the 'respecting' of his beliefs. Though i don't respect it, i certainly have to tolerate it. Religion hasn't done anything to earn my respect. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14193 Posts
On December 03 2011 19:09 FractalsOnFire wrote: What happens if someone prays for a negative outcome? Who are we to claim how god thinks? He could create a tragic event 'for the greater good'. Who knows. To say that there is no possibility of a negative outcome is foolish. Plus people believe in the devil and that he too, is able to influence the world around us. Also i don't agree with the 'respecting' of his beliefs. Though i don't respect it, i certainly have to tolerate it. Religion hasn't done anything to earn my respect. How about the red cross and the salvation army? Not to mention the clear difference in the effectiveness between faith based organizations and non faith based organizations for things like helping kids in Africa. I mean name an organization that actually gives a shit about poor people that isn't faith based? | ||
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Kitkatzy
United States213 Posts
On December 03 2011 19:27 sermokala wrote: How about the red cross and the salvation army? Not to mention the clear difference in the effectiveness between faith based organizations and non faith based organizations for things like helping kids in Africa. I mean name an organization that actually gives a shit about poor people that isn't faith based? You mean like how faith based organizations actively work to discourage and deny condom use in Africa, when HIV has reduced life expectancy in some areas by half? Or how the Salvation Army attempts to repress the civil rights of homosexuals? The Red Cross is not a faith-based organization. The cross has nothing to do with christianity. This is the major charity that Atheists donate and volunteer for too! It is an incredible organization and an answer to your absurd last sentence. | ||
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Masamune
Canada3401 Posts
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