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Dreamhack Winter Post-mortem - Page 5

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VaultDweller
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania132 Posts
November 28 2011 18:32 GMT
#81
Absolutely great post, I love reading about and event from somebody involved in it. Dreamhack was a great event and you had a big part in making it such a cool experience.
I will never understand though what are the organizers thinking when they pick these absolutely horrific hosts. "We have 6 extremely well know figures in this community, let's call this random guy that has no clue about anything and have him piss off the crowd." It boggles my mind... I loved it when you started making fun of CoD, you kinda saved the situation, though you only reinforced the idea that he was completely out of place. The next 2 or 3 times he came out again I had to mute the stream sadly
Also, that idea of a parallel stream of the couch discussion during the matches is pure gold, somebody should definitely do it in the future.
"War is not about who's right- it's about who's left."
Zilir
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden47 Posts
November 28 2011 18:34 GMT
#82
What is it with Sean and malicious chairs anyway, he seems to have the worst luck in that regard.


Made me laugh so hard when I read it.
Good blog and keep up the good work. You totally deserve the cheers you get!
Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 18:40:33
November 28 2011 18:39 GMT
#83
Great blog post.

While you don't have much to offer as an analyst, your live audience management(HYPE) is easily the best out there right now, while some other casters in that event(I won't name who) are probably just as bad at it as you are at SC2. I hope they learned a lot from you, and vice versa, I hope you learned about the game from them.
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tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
November 28 2011 18:41 GMT
#84
Great work throughout the tournament, I don't think I told you that in person, but I should've.

Your set-up on the floor was pretty awkward, tons of publicity, but hard to sit through for a lot of time. Those bleachers were also incredibly hard to sit on, maybe DH can invest in some cushions that make it easier to stay longer. Extremely well done at the finals ceremony, you saved it 100%.
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Killedbydeath
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden37 Posts
November 28 2011 18:42 GMT
#85
Great post TB. I think you did an amazing job at DH and I expect to see you at future tournaments.

Keep it up!
Full.tilt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom1709 Posts
November 28 2011 18:44 GMT
#86
You and dApollo did a great job at DH especially considering your location and the minor technical issues you had to work around. The first two days were the best time I've had watching a major esports tourney since djWheat and Sirscoots covered Devastation 2009, which was really entertaining. Just so much going on and so many games and groups to keep up to date with, which Apollo was doing really well, by checking liquipedia

Great work!
marktronic
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4 Posts
November 28 2011 18:46 GMT
#87
Well said, but this: " I often say that sportscasters would not be able to survive doing what we do and after this weekend I can safely say that I'm right."

Really? Why do people insist on belittling what others do? Did this point really add so much to your argument about the incredibly long hours casting?
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
November 28 2011 18:48 GMT
#88
you sir have a sharp mind. I especially liked the last chapter.
keep it deep! @zulison
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
November 28 2011 18:48 GMT
#89
On November 29 2011 03:46 marktronic wrote:
Well said, but this: " I often say that sportscasters would not be able to survive doing what we do and after this weekend I can safely say that I'm right."

Really? Why do people insist on belittling what others do? Did this point really add so much to your argument about the incredibly long hours casting?


Of all the things, you found that offensive?
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Tialuram
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands51 Posts
November 28 2011 18:49 GMT
#90
Nice post and a good summary of a great tournament. Thanks TotalBiscuit, Apollo, Mr Bitter, Day[9], Artosis and Tasteless for the dedication and hard work. I enjoyed it a lot.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 18:53:59
November 28 2011 18:52 GMT
#91
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, great read.

Undoubtedly the skill on display was phenomenal but tell me, was that final good because the players were Korean or because of the story of those players?


I only quoted a small part of your argument here, but I feel like you're turning what should be a matter of personal opinion into an argument here. People watch Sc2 for very different reasons. Some are primarily interested in the game itself and the amount of skill involved while others (like you) watch for the excitement, the drama and the players. One way of enjoying Sc2 isn't superior to the other, so the opinion that a tournament needs a lot of code S players to be great isn't right or wrong, it's just a matter of personal preference. Me, I loved Dreamhack more than any other Sc2 tournament so far because of the Hero vs Puma story, but I usually don't invest myself that heavily into a player (Hero) if I'm not in love with their play and skill. And yes, having more Koreans usually makes a tournament more interesting for me.

There are times when I think it can be perceived that I'm ignoring Apollo's points, more often than not it's simply because his explanation is so thorough and accurate that I have no followup, though I'm starting to get better with being able to extrapolate his analysis with either a reinterpretation which is less technical for the more casual fans, a joke or an original theory of my own. Game knowledge building is still a slow process that is requiring a lot of work but I'm not really making the stupid mistakes I used to, at least not that I've noticed or that anyone seems able to point out specifically. Practice is still required and plenty of that will continue to happen with various engagements booked for the both of us. I think laddering more is helping, I used to hate playing but since I switched to Zerg I'm enjoying the game again and it also gives me an appreciation of the various macro mechanics and how important various things are which I didn't really have before.


It's great that you're laddering more, there's really no way around becoming a decent player if you want to have a good understanding of the game. I feel like you work together really well with Apollo. If I can make one suggestion, you still speak in absolutes too much. What I mean by that is that you say things like 'it's roaches vs stalkers, that's never a good situation for Protoss'. I guess your reasoning behind it is that you keep to straightforward analysis rather than getting into the territory of more subtle analysis that you have less confidence in, but the problem is things are rarely that clear-cut in Sc2. Roaches vs stalkers can both be terrible and great for Protoss depending on the situation. Anyway, it's a small thing and maybe this comes across as nitpicking more than anything.

Keep up the good work.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Sithril
Profile Joined April 2011
Slovakia169 Posts
November 28 2011 18:53 GMT
#92
TB about your casting:

It's gotten noticebly better; you're not making those dumb mistakes and hicups as you did half a year ago as well as your analysis is better and more accurate. Put it bluntly: you're no longer doing and saying things that a top level caster should not (things that are enough to make a viewer turn off the stream). Are you below the level of Day9, Tastosis, etc? Yes, but by how much is not important, you're very high enough that the commentary is great to listen.

Honestly, just keep improving: ironing out the few remaining caster mistakes, getting a lot more game knowledge and improving you personality. I am not shure you (or anyone) could get to Tastosis level without full dedication, but it's possible to get very high, very close.
warbaby
Profile Joined May 2011
United States510 Posts
November 28 2011 18:54 GMT
#93
On November 29 2011 03:00 TotalBiscuit wrote: I would suggest every tournament take a serious look at a compressor in their production setup.


Absolutely! So many otherwise well-produced tournaments fall short in the sound department, although in general quality is getting better as SC2 grows.

I'm no sound engineer, but AFAIK there's good software out there (some of it free) to do stuff like mixing, equalization, compression, and de-essing in real time. It's a shame tournament organizers still don't spend more time/money on this part of the production, when it could enhance the viewer experience significantly.
It puts the GG in the basket. It does this whenever it's told or else it gets the Mutalisks again.
Soleron
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1324 Posts
November 28 2011 18:54 GMT
#94
Huge respect for you TotalBiscuit, what you said was completely right.
Mindtwist
Profile Joined December 2010
Lithuania108 Posts
November 28 2011 18:59 GMT
#95
Thanks for the great blog post, TB.
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
November 28 2011 19:03 GMT
#96
dApollo is the reason I wake up in the morning.

GOD is he Handsome
♞ - His EKG is flattening get me a defib stat! Prepped and Ready! - ♞
clik
Profile Joined May 2010
United States319 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 20:22:51
November 28 2011 19:04 GMT
#97
"But it's not professional/it's cheesy!" some may cry, "how dare you compare our treasured eSport to wrestling!". Guys, you watch a game with giant tanks, fat floating space octopus and the machines from War of the Worlds, you're already occupying an entire universe of cheesy nonsense, embrace it.


In its most simplest stripped down form I suppose so however I do not watch Starcraft for those reasons. You see I actually play the game and I watch for strategy, decision making, the insane tactics that takes numerous amounts of practice to pull off. The graphics are just pieces on the board. These are the things that need to be emphasized to people. The last thing I want to see is my sport turned into a Nickelodeon kids show, or look anything like The CGS and finally fake, cheesy, trailer trash wrestling.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 28 2011 19:08 GMT
#98
I love the Photoshop cover. Too good and nice write-up.

Being on the couch is fine. Stop analyzing it too much! Just bring the laughter and your voice. You did a much better job than anyone else getting the crowd riled up than Day[9] and the other boys. That is a feat onto itself.

In other words, bring the boom.
awwnuts07
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States621 Posts
November 28 2011 19:11 GMT
#99
"Guys, you watch a game with giant tanks, fat floating space octopus and the machines from War of the Worlds, you're already occupying an entire universe of cheesy nonsense, embrace it." - TotalBiscuit keepin' it real

Don't worry TB, I'm sure your concerns will be addressed by the DH crew by the next event. Considering how kick-ass their events are, I'm sure they consider anything less than the best, a failure.

Thanks for the blog entry and thanks for the great work this past weekend. You, Tastosis, Day, Mr. Bitter, and especially dAppolo did a bang-up job.
I'm a noob
ReiverR
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden1 Post
November 28 2011 19:17 GMT
#100
It doens't matter if you are not the best analyst among the casters, it doens't matter if you don't have the smartest thing to say between the games in the couch, you still belong there beacuse of ypur wonderfull personality. You maybee don't add so musch of knowledge as Day9, dApollo and the others did but you sure added joy and laughter to it. Don't undervalue your self in that regard that you don't belong there because you do! The entertaining value is rising A LOT when you are around. Just wanted to let you know that! <3

Really great job at Dreamhack! Keep it up!
And thank you for an awesome blog input.
<3<3
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