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Dreamhack Winter Post-mortem - Page 2

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Zarathusta
Profile Joined September 2010
United States114 Posts
November 28 2011 17:12 GMT
#21
Five stars, watching an event of the magnitude for a few hours on stream really does not do it justice. It is nice to have the people involved give a good report of what's going on. Adding a small opinion, the way the streams were set up, it seems like the casters were doomed to run the marathon since each caster duo had their own stream. Any breaks for the casters would just cause a huge downtime on any one stream, in the future I would like to see more casters than streams.

And Happy vs ToD was so bad, it even made mass nukes boring.

Good job and thanks for sharing, I appreciate the love and effort you put behind eSports.
Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
November 28 2011 17:13 GMT
#22
dApollo never gets enough love. He was amazing this DreamHack, and one hell of a sick baller to be able to get through it all like that without fault.

You're right about pretty much everything, TB, and I don't have much to add. This DreamHack wasn't quite as well-produced as the last one (which was just... phenomenal, I mean good GOD that bar was just too bloody high), but it was still an amazingly fun event. HerO's amazing run (hyped to hell after his performance at MLG) made me so freaking happy. You are absolutely right; that story is so much more interesting than their nationality. I consider HerO a Liquid player, an amazing young Protoss with some fantastic games ahead of him... not "a korean". His journey has been so inspiring.

However (and this is the pettiest gripe I've ever indulged in, but fuck it), the heartbeat sensors were pointless gimmicky bullshit. I was trying to enjoy the show, the ebb and flow of the game, listening to the casters analyse the play and hype it up, and suddenly I'm taken out of that moment as the casters bring attention to someone's bodily function.

Because... you know... that's vital information.

It was pissing me off, but from what I've heard I am in the minority on this, so with that I will bow out.

Good write-up TB, thanks. =)
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SolidMustard
Profile Joined May 2011
France1515 Posts
November 28 2011 17:13 GMT
#23
On November 29 2011 02:08 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 02:07 SolidMustard wrote:
However, on camera it was all analysis and let's be honest, what place do I have there alongside Day9, Bitter, Tastosis and Apollo? What can I offer in that scenario? Nothing at all. I also think 4 might be too many, I noticed Bitter was having trouble getting airtime as was I (though that is my fault for having nothing of value to offer to the discussion)


So you think you're not legit as a caster ? tbh I think it's true but it's weird to me that you're pointing that out yourself


I am not legit as an analyst, but have never claimed to be one to begin with. There is more to public speaking than just game knowledge.


True, I got your point better now. Still the couch thing was awesome !
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
November 28 2011 17:13 GMT
#24
On November 29 2011 02:11 LiteralZero wrote:
MLG next?!


Only thing in my way is US border control and that problem should disappear shortly.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
Roberi
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden347 Posts
November 28 2011 17:15 GMT
#25
Several of us said that we'd love what we said on the couch during the games to be like a directors commentary, an alternate stream or some kind of bonus because I think people would have enjoyed (as well as have been a little offended) by the stuff we said.

That would be incredibly awesome, but I think I'd rather listen to regular commentary during the games. Would be fantastic to be able to listen to afterwards though.

Thanks for your incredibly hard work John, your commentary has improved to the point of you being up there as a favorite of mine. Looking forward to seeing you commentate at more events, maybe some hosting as well!
A fan of ThorZaIN, MorroW, NaNiwa and SaSe. Sweden Fighting! /// @rob_eri
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
November 28 2011 17:16 GMT
#26
On November 29 2011 02:15 Roberi wrote:
Show nested quote +
Several of us said that we'd love what we said on the couch during the games to be like a directors commentary, an alternate stream or some kind of bonus because I think people would have enjoyed (as well as have been a little offended) by the stuff we said.

That would be incredibly awesome, but I think I'd rather listen to regular commentary during the games. Would be fantastic to be able to listen to afterwards though.!


Yeah, I'd like to see that (with consent from the casters ofc, bearing in mind we can and do say shit we wouldn't usually on camera) added as a commentary track for a VoD, like how you get directors commentary on DVDs. You watch the movie first then watch the alternate commentary for a different perspective.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
JellowLight
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
60 Posts
November 28 2011 17:17 GMT
#27
You were awesome! I was there at your arena a lot of times and it was indeed a little to small and placed incorrect imho. I mean within like 1 hour the camera was displaced (is that a word?) because of people walking against it. It was funny that your cameraman wasn't listening while you were calling his name and I had to ask him to help you, but it's something that probably makes you even more stressy. Also that first drop that you missed, as TLO was watching the replay afterwards you could see that the protoss player also didn't really notice the drop since he lost his nexus to such few units. Also it was a drop that was happening while the main battle occured, i mean the main battle should have had priority anyway.

I wanna thank you for being on DreamHack. It was awesome to meet you and I loved your castign with d'apollo and TLO!

Btw, where were you when TLO and Sheth casted that game, since they said you disappeart?
Gnarfle
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden170 Posts
November 28 2011 17:17 GMT
#28
A great read. I really enjoyed dreamhack and all of the casters.

I have also been thinking about how long you guys are casting for though, during tournament. Anyone thats ever worked a 10+ shift knows that you always return home completely drained and most of us dont have jobs where we have to keep constant attention while looking somewhat decent infront of a crowd. I would have thought that the tournaments themselves would have realized by now that you cannot work a person for that long and expect a flawless product.
From here on I suggest that more casters be used, if you have three streams that will air 6-8 Bo3's a day, you need at least 2 caster teams per stream/day. Ok, if you want to be cheap, you could form 3man teams and using a rotation system but the product will obviously suffer from this.

Also, I think people zone in too much on this in depth analysis that all casters/commentators are suppose to be able to give. I have enjoyed plenty of games from TB solo casting without any super deep analysis but on the other side some not-to-be-mentioned casters have ruined a few by trying to do analysis they were not capable of.

All in all, a great tournament and a superb effort! Thanks a ton!
/Gnarfle
Ahelvin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
France1866 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 17:18:27
November 28 2011 17:17 GMT
#29
Awesome write-up TB, very insightful and interesting.

And once again, don't let yourself be fooled by the negativity on Reddit/YT/TL/Whatever. The internet is what it is, and the most vocal people are all too often the one not civilized enough to speak rather than yell .
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dmans
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden358 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 17:23:24
November 28 2011 17:19 GMT
#30
great writeup, takes up a lot of good points. Your "are you ready for the finaaaaaaaalllllllssss" are the best

and yeah dapollo is so good, and so cute. the caster bisu
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
November 28 2011 17:19 GMT
#31
On November 29 2011 02:13 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 02:11 LiteralZero wrote:
MLG next?!


Only thing in my way is US border control and that problem should disappear shortly.


Um. Careful bro, this is just the kinda phrase that might get you on a no-fly list.
falafelnr1
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden444 Posts
November 28 2011 17:20 GMT
#32
Enjoyed your casting alot. Keep up the good work!

On November 29 2011 02:15 Roberi wrote:
Thanks for your incredibly hard work John, your commentary has improved to the point of you being up there as a favorite of mine. Looking forward to seeing you commentate at more events, maybe some hosting as well!


Btw just realized this is the first time i heard/read your real name and I have like watched all your SC-casting
ProGear
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden35 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 17:21:18
November 28 2011 17:20 GMT
#33
Excellent write-up well done totalbiscuit. I think you actually contributed a lot to the casting and one thing I love while watching you is the fact that you sort of give an other more wider perspective on the games.

If you look at day9 and apollo they go very deeply into detail very often. For a person who's not that familiar with starcraft this could ofc be a negative thing. Although ofc they contribute just as much they are also great casters...


*whisper* I love you tb.. I love you.......
betaman
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom355 Posts
November 28 2011 17:21 GMT
#34
I liked the couch idea but as you have said you couldn't really add to the analysis and thus looked a little uncomfortable. Perhaps you could have done like a 'Gary Lineker' role on MOTD and just ask the other casters questions and reintroduce the casters/pump up the crowd for the next match when the next match is ready. You would make a great host as well with that epic voice of yours, you really got the crowd going.
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
November 28 2011 17:22 GMT
#35
hey tb
make more videos with jesse cox

CMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON
dats racist
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 17:24:40
November 28 2011 17:22 GMT
#36
On November 29 2011 02:17 JellowLight wrote:

Btw, where were you when TLO and Sheth casted that game, since they said you disappeart?


There was a miscommunication. We were scheduled (or so we thought) for 3 RO16 BO3s, then 1 hour lunch and then 2 hours signing before going direct to the arena for briefing and setup. In reality, we were supposed to cast 4 BO3s and go direct into signing with no break. I think someone goofed the schedule there since that would have not been an ideal arrangement at all. Sheth and TLO jumped in when the admins realised there were no casters available.

I liked the couch idea but as you have said you couldn't really add to the analysis and thus looked a little uncomfortable. Perhaps you could have done like a 'Gary Lineker' role on MOTD and just ask the other casters questions and reintroduce the casters/pump up the crowd for the next match when the next match is ready. You would make a great host as well with that epic voice of yours, you really got the crowd going.


This is what I'd like to do yes, that would make sense. As it stood, the role fell to Day9 and Tasteless, who were both kind enough to throw me a pity-ball every now and again so I could say some inane bullshit.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
OGKruemmel
Profile Joined March 2011
Croatia270 Posts
November 28 2011 17:22 GMT
#37
Very interesting write-up!
evilCursor
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany49 Posts
November 28 2011 17:22 GMT
#38
TB you are a great guy, nice deep thought resumée. Between the lines I think it displays a little over-awareness to critiscism and weaknesses but frankly you have more than enough reason to be confident about yourself. In terms of using your voice professionally, enterteining people and expert knowledge on production you set standards rather than catch up to other casters in the SC2 universe. And it's great to see you as a team with Apollo, who fully deserves your respect as an SC2 mastermind. There's nothing more charming than seeing you two fullheartedly enjoying SC2 games and presenting them to us in british accent =)
DusTerr
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
2520 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 17:24:36
November 28 2011 17:23 GMT
#39
Thank you for the great write up and wonderful job at Dreamhack. See you next time you're in Finland (again).

On November 29 2011 02:21 betaman wrote:
I liked the couch idea but as you have said you couldn't really add to the analysis and thus looked a little uncomfortable. Perhaps you could have done like a 'Gary Lineker' role on MOTD and just ask the other casters questions and reintroduce the casters/pump up the crowd for the next match when the next match is ready. You would make a great host as well with that epic voice of yours, you really got the crowd going.


Agreed - I do think TB would make an excellent emcee.
karkinator1
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway3 Posts
November 28 2011 17:23 GMT
#40
great postTB :D you did a great job casting at dreamhack! <3
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