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On November 29 2011 04:04 clik wrote: In its most simplest stripped down form I suppose so however I do not watch Starcraft for those reasons. You see I actually play the game and I watch for strategy, decision making, the insane tactics that takes numerous amounts of hours to pull off. The graphics are just pieces on the board. These are the things that need to be emphasized to people. The last thing I want to see is my sport turned into a Nickelodeon kids show, or look anything like The CGS and finally fake, cheesy, trailer trash wrestling. I don't even agree with TB calling all of those things in Starcraft, "cheesy." Maybe it's just me, but cheesy in my mind is defined as something that's cheap, tawdry, and overdone; or, according to multiple sources of definitions online, from urban dictionary to Merriam-Webster, "trying too hard or blatantly inauthentic" - with inauthentic being the word that's used in almost every definition. WWE can certainly be described as such, but tell me, in what way is the world of Starcraft and science fiction in general, inauthentic in the sense that it purports to be something else than it actually is? Everyone knows the lore of SC is nonsense, but at the same time, it's not trying to be anything else. I certainly don't think the first thought that pops into the mind of an outsider who views Starcraft is, "wow, this is so trite, cliche, overdone, and fake". I think the point that I'm trying to make is, we see pyrotechnics and fancy introduction videos for almost every large event in any major spectator sport, from the NBA to the NFL to European Football to MMA to the Olympics. It's not those aspects specifically that makes something like the WWE cheesy - it's the whole packaging of WWE that makes it cheesy, and in our minds, those unsubtle aspects like pyrotechnics stand out more, so we subconsciously label it as such. In other words, while I agree with the premise of TB, that something like introduction videos would be great, instead of comparing SC to WWE, and conflating cheesy with perhaps another term, a more appropriate analogy should have been used. | ||
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Pimmeh
Netherlands120 Posts
First of all: I love your castig with dApollo. With his in-depth knowledge of both the game and the players, and your... passion, it's hard to feel anything but excitement with games you cast. What you say about "not belonging" on the caster's couch is a good point you make, though. Not specifically because of you, because you sure deserve to be up on that stage, and I didn't have any complaints about the games you casted at all, but because 4 people there is indeed too many, and if you have to choose 2-3 people to sit on that couch, it'd better be people that can add extra knowledge to the already in-depth and exact information given with the casts. You should keep casting Starcraft 2, and I think having you as the host for the finals next time would be incredibly awesome. I spent alot of time around DHW11 chasing after Pro's and casters and from all the people that I met, you and Ret were the only ones that actually gave me the feeling that they loved meeting fans and spreading the love. So yeah, keep on truckin' Pimmeh (The guy who was the first one to ask if I could take a picture with you at the signing.) | ||
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MavivaM
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On November 29 2011 04:34 NeoDragon wrote: Honestly I am not the biggest fan of Totalbiscut but after reading this I respect the guy a lot more. He admits that he does not know as much as the full time casters and I appreciate that he knows it and is not afraid to admit it. Great write up and because of this read I will be sure to watch more of your cast's. Keep up the good work! Spoiler because completely unrelated to the thread, but why the fucking 'respect system' on TL is so broken? + Show Spoiler + A guy does something you don't like? LOSE RESPECT! IMMEDIATELY! A guy writes an half assed apology he doesn't even believe in? MASSIVE RESPECT! PROPS TO HIM! A guy admits that he does not know as much as the full time casters after months when a good part of the community kept regularly stomping on his balls with this issue? Respect! ...what? I mean... why??? He is just telling you what you wanted to hear, it's not something special or particularly worth of respect. His DH prestation, that was worth of real respect: casting-speaking he is like the Energizer Bunny, and that comes from a guy who used to dislike him a lot. I even posted in a fan club for my first time. But keep Apollo nearby, TB... | ||
KadaverBB
Germany25657 Posts
I enjoy your casting very much, you are just so fluid and pleasing to listen to | ||
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Hunken
Sweden5 Posts
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Herfelt
Denmark89 Posts
Keep devoting your time to SC2! | ||
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Tailss
Sweden233 Posts
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Le Grille
Denmark3 Posts
(I watch a bit of american football and i love way they descripe plays by drawing, so if you're familiar with that, you should know sort of what i mean ) The big problem with this is obviously the relatively short amount of time between the games in sc2, and im not sure how the players would feel, having to wait an excessive amount of time between the games. Also im not too sure how it would work in front of a live audience, but for the stream viewers i think it would be awesome. Apart from that, great blog TB and what a great event DH was! Can't wait for the next one! | ||
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Ghad
Norway2551 Posts
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rUiNati0n
United States1155 Posts
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Zhazulo
Sweden226 Posts
I tried to solve the issue with my brought ear plugs, but at the same time there was the seating problem was the, like three rows of seats? It was a joke, really, compared to the big stage, which was really packed most of the time. I think you could have at least had a five times as large of a crowd if you'd have a better venue. It's really a shame  Other than that, you did really well enjoy Stockholm now! | ||
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Theeakoz
United States1114 Posts
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vtbarrera
United States46 Posts
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Mootland
Finland63 Posts
I have to agree placing you with rest of the casters on the coach, you did feel a little "out-classed" there, as far as an analyst goes. And regarding your casting, I think you're more of an personality as an caster, in the same way that tastosis throws smalltalk in between their casting, you have an unique way of interpreting the game and how you bring it out to the crowd (which is not a bad thing, it pleases others and others it doesn't). Anyways, keep up the good work, your casting has indeed got more solid. Cheers from Finland! Hope to see you @ Winter ASM 2012. | ||
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Ruscour
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/NnHJO.jpg) dat Apollo...*swoon* | ||
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Lynda
649 Posts
On November 29 2011 02:13 TotalBiscuit wrote: Only thing in my way is US border control and that problem should disappear shortly. TB at MLG? Can't wait for that! | ||
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Grampz
United States2147 Posts
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Andypk
Scotland512 Posts
You do such a great job at all the events you go to, and sadly don't get enough credit for it. The way you got the crowd riled up when the finals were starting was incredible, I don't think any other casters could even come near to doing that as well as you can | ||
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