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mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
November 22 2011 05:32 GMT
#101
Damn, what a writeup. 5/5
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
mattjkim
Profile Joined May 2011
United States34 Posts
November 22 2011 05:32 GMT
#102
we are not your personal army.
TheHansBecker
Profile Joined February 2011
United States117 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 05:34:39
November 22 2011 05:33 GMT
#103
--- Nuked ---
Eogris
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States148 Posts
November 22 2011 05:33 GMT
#104
This is great. gonna try to do some of this.
THE NUKES GONNA LAND ON HIS ARMYYYYYYYYYYY
hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
November 22 2011 05:34 GMT
#105
You're right. Actually most of why people previously regarded "nerds" as social scrubs was due to us not expressing our passions clearly enough. Any encouragement of that has my full support. Change the view of the scene for the better in any way possible. I'll do as much as I can!
Please PM me with any songs you like that you think I haven't heard before!
BFCrimson
Profile Joined August 2010
United States176 Posts
November 22 2011 05:35 GMT
#106
Has anyone considered how amazingly equipped the Dallas Cowboys Stadium would be for an event? The main stage right in the middle of the field with in house barcrafts going on. The hugest screen I've ever seen capable of broadcasting the game to the masses we could pack in that stadium. I bet you someone has to have thought of this before me.

Cowboys Stadium (Wiki)
Jmorrow
Profile Joined June 2011
United States32 Posts
November 22 2011 05:35 GMT
#107
So well thought out, glad Geoff was the one to actually state it. If I could upvote I would, but I will spread it none the less.

Thanks Geoff for all your contributions.
LytR
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada75 Posts
November 22 2011 05:36 GMT
#108
Great article Geoff! 5/5
2012 is going to be even more kickass too! Can't wait.
Siliticx
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada206 Posts
November 22 2011 05:41 GMT
#109
Geoff, i just tweeted at you. I love your drive, your passion and your ideas. We need to talk man.
CyberActiv Productions' Chief of eSports Operations - In Canada, need sponsorship or help with an eSport project? don't hesitate to contact me!
Zeppelin535
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada262 Posts
November 22 2011 05:45 GMT
#110
On November 22 2011 14:32 mattjkim wrote:
we are not your personal army.


He's not asking for a personal army, he's asking for an eSports army. If you don't comply, you're killing eSports!
Bones (P) | @BonesSC2 | twitch.tv/Bones535
PraiseB
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia135 Posts
November 22 2011 05:46 GMT
#111
Great post, Player agents was something I was talking to a couple of people about, specially after the reports that came out a couple of weeks ago about tournament winnings taking forever to get paid. It's a situation that just would not happen in other professional sports, no ones going to go through the effort and hardships to qualify for a grand slam if they know there is a chance it will take a year to get paid if you get paid at all.

The training required to get to the top level and stay there means you don't always have the mental capacity or time to chase these people up and it's something organizers know, they know they won't get calls and emails day in day out asking for owed money because none of the players are represented in any way shape or form. If players were represented and had the office full of people behind them giving their all for their clients the way other sporting agencies do you can guarantee event organizations will be going out of their way to ensure players get payed as they just don't want to have to deal with the agents, followed by debt collectors being sent after them.
Jaia
Profile Joined September 2011
United States4 Posts
November 22 2011 05:46 GMT
#112
reading this gave me the sickest nerdchills.

very eloquently and passionately written. and i think you've done a great job illustrating not just what we can do, but why the world of esports (and sc2 in particular) is so exciting. especially now. it's in such a tremendous time of growth and achievement that all of us can participate in...and know that we are really contributing to something amazing.

my husband and i were already planning to introduce my parents/siblings to sc2 when we go visit them for xmas this year. reading this got me even more stoked to do that.
more girls in esports!
SMoriak
Profile Joined November 2011
6 Posts
November 22 2011 05:46 GMT
#113
I admit to being a "lurker" to TL, and the SC2 scene, for quite some time. But after reading this post, I went and registered on TL just so I could reply and start getting more involved.

As someone who would love to see eSports grow, and someone who has a degree in Sport Management and extensive work in traditional sports and media relations, I know I have skills that could be useful to the community, but am unsure where and how to apply them.

I'll begin with searching for jobs with the well-known players in the industry, mainly because that's the only place I know to look. But maybe there are other possibilities of getting involved that I don't know of, or are overlooking, and would appreciate any help that people could offer.

I want to believe that the ceiling for eSports is much higher than what all of us could believe or imagine. Thanks for the call to action iNcontroL.
PhiliBiRD
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2643 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 05:48:53
November 22 2011 05:48 GMT
#114
good post and good thoughts

everyone can help, big or small, helping is helping
vtbarrera
Profile Joined October 2010
United States46 Posts
November 22 2011 05:48 GMT
#115
This is why I love INconttrol! You put into words something that many of us think about but don't talk about. Bravo for formulating your thoughts in a way that will truly get people to be part of the eSports revolution. =)
IrOnKaL
Profile Joined June 2011
United States340 Posts
November 22 2011 05:49 GMT
#116
Amazing read Geoff, thanks so much for taking the time to write this up.
klatch
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada1 Post
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 05:57:04
November 22 2011 05:51 GMT
#117
Registered just to reply to this article. Good read. First off, let me say that I have never played SC I or II. In the past few months I've become very engrossed in watching streams but haven't really felt the need to play the game myself, though it would obviously help me understand the game more. For me, this is like watching football, which I also do, and can see esports really coming in to their own. I am SHOCKED that the players don't have agents. Seriously: SHOCKED. I had thought of this a few months ago but assumed that they did have agents since they were on teams and such. Unreal. I had considered looking at being a sports agent after law school but decided that was a bit of a pipe dream for me and opted against it. I'm so tempted to look into doing something in the e-sports arena but there are so many moving parts and the massive international scene causes so many complications, some big, some small. Wow. There may not be agents but I would have to assume that players are taking significant contracts to a lawyer right? How are teams handling the sponsorships - Are players getting a cut or is their cut already put into their salary? Do tournament winnings go entirely to the player or does the player have to pay some to the team? Do players have incentive laced contracts? I don't expect (or want) a player to spill everything in public here per se but there are so many questions I have in this area... Yikes.
Ruyguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada988 Posts
November 22 2011 05:53 GMT
#118
Im with yea iNcontrol. 5/5
sl0v
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway51 Posts
November 22 2011 05:53 GMT
#119
100% Agree with everything you say here, and I truly hope you inspire action from dormant content-creators. Good tournaments, getting sponsors for more online stuff, perhaps just organizing a local LAN at your school, getting co-workers "addicted" and supporting companies who participate in the growth of E-sports. Re-tweeted your blog, told friends about it, and I hope to do the scene proud in some way or other come 2012.

5 star
SleepTech
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States222 Posts
November 22 2011 05:54 GMT
#120
On November 22 2011 14:35 BFCrimson wrote:
Has anyone considered how amazingly equipped the Dallas Cowboys Stadium would be for an event? The main stage right in the middle of the field with in house barcrafts going on. The hugest screen I've ever seen capable of broadcasting the game to the masses we could pack in that stadium. I bet you someone has to have thought of this before me.

Cowboys Stadium (Wiki)


It costs like $24,000 PER HOUR to rent the stadium.
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