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"Anonymous" vs a drug cartel

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lvent
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States140 Posts
October 31 2011 18:58 GMT
#1
http://www.informationweek.com/news/security/cybercrime/231901970

My background/job is in computer networks, so I try and keep up with what is going on and came across the article above(and substantial others similar). I was never really a fan of them personally, I feel they are a bunch of malcontents. While behind their anonymity they are the biggest bad asses the interweb has ever seen, then when they are caught they become an elephant in a room full of mice(See Jake Davis).


Its one thing for them to "go after" a civilized country's IP, as the results and coincidences of doing so will just be jail for you and your accomplices. When you "decide" to wage war on a drug cartel you enter a whole other realm. Those mother fuckers do not play. They will wipe out a town if they are uncooperative. I believe last year the body count alone was 30k. If the "kids" in anon, lulzsec or whatever subgroup think that they will be safe dropping names and screwing with drug lords money they are idiots. Information Week reached out to an intelligence research firm that said basically anyone they name will be killed if they have ties to the organization. What Anonymous fails to realize is a vast majority of these people are forced to help. If they dont them, their family, and anyone close to them can be killed.

What these "hackers" don't understand and it really is a common misconception; is they veiw these cartels as being just muscle and no brains. Make no mistakes about them, they are : well financed, well equipped, and have access to information via bribes or threats.


There are probably only a dozen or so true "hackers" in their group(s?). The rest are script kiddies or use GUI programs. What is going to happen is if they go this route they are going to get a bunch of people(a majority of innocents) killed. They are going to put themselves and their families at risk. They think that being in the US,Canada,Europe that they are safe; they are sadly mistaken.


I cant fault them for wanting to go after people who are inherently bad, but they really need to think something like this out more especially in dealing with the consequences which will definitely be there.

TheMango
Profile Joined April 2007
United States1967 Posts
October 31 2011 19:00 GMT
#2
You're welcome to keep this blog open, but there's actually a thread in General about this as well:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=281077
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HoMM
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Estonia635 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-31 21:03:14
October 31 2011 20:57 GMT
#3
On November 01 2011 04:00 TheMango wrote:
You're welcome to keep this blog open, but there's actually a thread in General about this as well:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=281077


I'd assume he knows of the thread and wanted to share his thoughts in a way that people will actually notice, instead of it being just another post like any other in the thread.

Are the drug cartels really that big? I had no idea it was this serious. Regardless, the I doubt the cartels have much power outside their area, and especially on the internet.
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lvent
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States140 Posts
October 31 2011 21:04 GMT
#4
On November 01 2011 05:57 HoMM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2011 04:00 TheMango wrote:
You're welcome to keep this blog open, but there's actually a thread in General about this as well:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=281077


I'd assume he knows of the thread and wanted to share his thoughts in a way that people will actually notice, instead of it being just another post like any other in the thread.


I actually did not see the thread; I was writing this over the course of the morning and wasnt checking elsewhere . I have been trying to be active in the thread though, although here I can convey what I think easier if that makes sense
nath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-31 21:07:30
October 31 2011 21:06 GMT
#5
they will still be safe; so i dont see your point.

yes cartels are powerful and smart, but they aren't gonna send thugs to some posh suburb to yank a nerd out of a well-off family's basement.

(or to an apartment/anywhere in the us)
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AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
October 31 2011 21:19 GMT
#6
Well that's one way for Anonymous to disappear I guess. These kiddos, like you said, have absolutely no freaking idea what they are getting into. If the cartel is pissed off/thinks you are a threat, they WILL use their billions to get hitmen, hackers or whatever to find you and remove you. They probably also won't think twice about friends, family or inncocents in the way, or even care about the innocents who may be killed as a suspected member of Anonymous.
The cartels aren't some wussy U.S. agency that can't even torture, recently had its funding cut even more and has to worry about PR.
I think I recently read an article about APTs, and I believe a cartel is capable of employing them, so don't think Anonymous will be anywhere NEAR safe with an organized group of hackers/spys with a 100% penetration rate. Script kiddie tricks won't help them now.
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lvent
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States140 Posts
October 31 2011 21:34 GMT
#7
On November 01 2011 06:06 nath wrote:
they will still be safe; so i dont see your point.

yes cartels are powerful and smart, but they aren't gonna send thugs to some posh suburb to yank a nerd out of a well-off family's basement.

(or to an apartment/anywhere in the us)


You think that they will allow punk kids to shit on them via a computer and possibly disrupt their business with no repercussion? You should read up on how they all operate its disgusting. Im not sure if it is this particular cartel but one of them uses MS-13(who are all over the us) as a hit squad. To do their dirt here.
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