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Number_J
Profile Joined August 2011
United States25 Posts
October 31 2011 21:17 GMT
#341
Not the hero we need, or the hero we deserve. This is quite a disappointment.
‎"A goal is not always meant to be reached, it often serves simply as something to aim at." -Bruce Lee
mooshoo
Profile Joined January 2011
United States37 Posts
October 31 2011 21:26 GMT
#342
lolz the one thing milkis actually seems to be really good at is injecting some nice drama out of no where
Tallbus
Profile Joined April 2011
39 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-31 21:27:40
October 31 2011 21:26 GMT
#343
He's a total asshole IMO. There are plenty of elitists who call a BW better than SC2, which it isn't (evident based on the E-Sports scene). They don't, however, take a shit all over the community then come back to cry about it like a little bitch because everyone hates them.

You have two choices, either A) Don't be a douche in the first place or B) If you are a douche, accept it, don't do what you did and say something stupid then apologize, no one gives a fuck about your reasons or apology you did something stupid as hell, said something terribly wrong, and this is what you get.

Further, what qualifies you to decide which is better, YOURE A FUCKING TRANSLATOR, you probably suck dick at Starcraft, so for you to make a decision between the two holds no ground a diamond league player on any ladder has more ground than you, IdrA by a long shot has more credit than you towards that decision.

Brood War players need to pull their head out of their ass and understand that their game doesn't hold E-Sports value anymore, if you want your genre to continue get on board and start getting with the times your nostalgia is ridiculous. Milkis you should take that advice, but first, get the fuck out of the scene.

User was banned for this post.
acrimoneyius
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States983 Posts
October 31 2011 21:52 GMT
#344
People are criticizing him for immediately apologizing, but they'd do the same if he waited + Show Spoiler +


He's admitting mistakes and taking a break from the community to try and gain some maturity. I respect that decision and wish him luck. Growing up is hard.
Verator
Profile Joined June 2010
United States283 Posts
October 31 2011 22:00 GMT
#345
On October 31 2011 21:36 Chill wrote:
I think you did intend most of the stuff you said you didn't intend. Anyways, thanks for the apology and see you tomorrow.



This, and idra's statements feel rather true to me. This apology reeks of someone who refuses to believe their actions have consequences, and will avoid them whenever possible. I do hope you mean to do better, but I think you'd best start by learning to learn of situations and base your opinions on facts, rather than crazy emotions and nostalgic bias or cultural favoritism.

Your volunteering as a translator was a good act, but doing something good does not excuse doing something despicable and ignorant. Most insults have basis in true, valid criticism. They might not be as apparently damaging when you no longer have thousands of eyes looking at you, but they are seen as strongly negative for a reason. Take care to look at them honestly and fix them as soon as you are able. "Humble Brags" can be as damaging in personal relations and friendships as any other significant flaw.

Just Saying, I'm sorry but, I don't mean to be/sound/etc. mean nothing, and you only seem more craven and less respectable when using them.

I hope you can improve and return sometime, and this shows you are at least aware of some problems, but I hope you do something to actually improve upon them, rather than flee and attempt to avoid blame, as it seems you continue to do even now.
So far as I can remember, there is not one word in the Gospels in praise of intelligence. -- Bertrand Russell
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
October 31 2011 22:06 GMT
#346
Oh Milkis.

I forgive you.
gulati
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2241 Posts
October 31 2011 22:12 GMT
#347
Follow the white rabbit, take care of yourself and stay humble. There is no need for anger or remorse in life.

"Hate is baggage. Life's too short to be pissed off all the time. It's just not worth it" - AHX.

Be good, Wooju.
C r u m b l i n g
Enhancer_
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada320 Posts
October 31 2011 22:21 GMT
#348
On October 31 2011 13:22 Milkis wrote:
While it was demotivating, I was wrong to be demotivated. After all, the only reason I joined the scene was because I believe there was a lot of content out there that I thought the foreign community could enjoy.

This is cool, but then this:
The point is that e-Sports is something that is extremely distracting, at least at the level that I have took it in.

Couldn't you just dial back your involvement instead of getting all dramatic and saying you'll quit the scene forever? SC2 is a spectator sport and producing and facilitating content isn't for everybody, of course. Translate something if you've got the free time and think it'd be fun to share, or don't if you don't want to or don't have the time. No need to go and get a job with MLG herding Koreans everywhere. Remove the obligations that inflated your ego and SC is still a pretty cool scene to follow. Maybe chew some Stride gum to bring down the ego as well :D.

I hope this whole thing teaches everybody to never make threads titled "Good Bye" or "An Apology" ever again though -_-.
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-31 23:10:19
October 31 2011 22:30 GMT
#349
Zilir_
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom9 Posts
October 31 2011 22:37 GMT
#350
I have changed my opinion of Milkis, I think it's very commendable for someone to want to concentrate on themselves and their own development, putting themselves first for once.

Live life without regret and do what you love doing,

Good luck in the future Milkis.

GG
autosuggested
Profile Joined April 2011
Ireland22 Posts
October 31 2011 22:39 GMT
#351
Jeez, Milkis, this is a long goodbye! Here's some Clash to help you out.

Should I Stay Or Should I Go
If one good deed in all my life I did, I do repent it from my very soul.
inamorato
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States263 Posts
October 31 2011 22:42 GMT
#352
On October 31 2011 15:16 Rekrul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2011 14:43 IdrA wrote:
no. goddamit. someone does something fucking stupid after being a douchebag for a long time and writes an apology that takes 5 minutes and means nothing.
hes still a douchebag. dont be nice to him.


I'm not sure if you're qualified to say that or not LOL

I don't ever remember Idra jumping through hoops to convince the community of his opinions and then apologize for them. He at least keeps it 100 all the time, so its quite easy to see where he stands.

As far as this blog goes, if another doesn't follow for at least a week it will be much more convincing than batting for both teams and apologizing to the community about it. Good luck on future endeavors.

As far as apologizing goes, its more so a verb not a wall of text or a feeling. It isn't something that you have to name brand milkis and show to the community. It is an action that you take without expecting a medal of honor. Altruistic Apology.
You're one microscopic cog in his catastrophic plan Designed and directed by his red right hand
DivinitySC2
Profile Joined July 2011
United States244 Posts
October 31 2011 23:23 GMT
#353
On November 01 2011 03:42 CptGrackSparrow wrote:
next time you decide to bring a korean player to a foreign event, make sure the player wins the event. Nestea or MVP only please.


Was not his decision, it was the community's decision, MKP has more fans than MVP and nestea is a close call...
To Iterate is Human, to Recurse, Divine
laLAlA[uC]
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada963 Posts
October 31 2011 23:29 GMT
#354
Didn't chill call this like, 6 minutes after the original post?
I'm an old man now
Underoath
Profile Joined May 2011
Peru113 Posts
October 31 2011 23:44 GMT
#355
On October 31 2011 13:22 Milkis wrote:
I'm writing this because I believe that I do owe everyone in the community some sort of an apology.


Some sort of an apology? Nah man, u don't need to do anything you don't really want. You made a post and created so much drama. That's the kinda stuff you really think about before posting, not after. You let your emotions get the best of you and did something to hurt e-sports. And now you believe you owe us "some sort of an apology"? No thx. I'm with IdrA on this one..
"More GG, more skill" - WhiteRa
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-31 23:59:10
October 31 2011 23:55 GMT
#356
On November 01 2011 08:44 Underoath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2011 13:22 Milkis wrote:
I'm writing this because I believe that I do owe everyone in the community some sort of an apology.


Some sort of an apology? Nah man, u don't need to do anything you don't really want. You made a post and created so much drama. That's the kinda stuff you really think about before posting, not after. You let your emotions get the best of you and did something to hurt e-sports. And now you believe you owe us "some sort of an apology"? No thx. I'm with IdrA on this one..


He HURT e-sports? Rofl. Okay. I must hurt E-Sports just by breathing then.

The amount Milkis has DONE for this community completely outweighs any damage he's supposedly caused. What did he even do anyway? Piss some people off, boo hoo. It's not like he made sponsors leave. He didn't hurt your sanctimonious e-sports. You can call the apology insincere if you believe it, but hurting e-sports, lol. You're elevating the situation and being melodramatic for no reason.
darkness overpowering
OnFiRe888
Profile Joined October 2010
United States629 Posts
November 01 2011 00:37 GMT
#357
Milkis, your behavior the last couple of days has been detrimental to the community. We have had many outbursts from you to try and seek out attention, but you need to realize, we all have these problems. Don't let these last couple of days hit you too hard, we've all been upset at one point in our lives. I'm not concerned with the people around you being dicks, I'm concerned with you being a dick to yourself. If you must concentrate on your studies, and "chase that rabbit" go forward, but just remember we will always remember you for all the good things you have done to our community in bridging the language barriers between the foreign fans and the koreans. So please, don't let this hit you too hard, we all want attention, and we all have personal problems that we have to deal with, I'm sure none of us have any right to judge you about your emotional maturity, because none of us are perfect.
"Life isn't measured by the breaths you take, but by skill in Starcraft"
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
November 01 2011 00:42 GMT
#358
Milkis, as long as you continue defending economics threads, i'll forgive you easily :D :D :D :D
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soulist
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States932 Posts
November 01 2011 01:02 GMT
#359
On October 31 2011 16:44 SnetteL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2011 16:35 Tijoy wrote:
On October 31 2011 14:43 IdrA wrote:
no. goddamit. someone does something fucking stupid after being a douchebag for a long time and writes an apology that takes 5 minutes and means nothing.
hes still a douchebag. dont be nice to him.
could not agree more


Your only post is hate directed towards someone who spent hours of his time doing free translations for you?

I don't care even if he wrote he approves of stealing candy from children, he contributed more to this scene than you or I ever will. Someone writes something, other people disagree, discussion ensues, afterwards just make up your own mind on where you stand.

I really don't know why people are so pissed about his opinion.


How can you be so single-minded and believe because someone does something "good" means that everyone will enjoy it. You can't possibly believe that because someone has done some good at some point in their lives they can be relinquished of all bad things they've done. If it was like this then so many people who are in jail would not be in jail.
Evil Geniuses<3
LeopoldStotch
Profile Joined April 2011
United States158 Posts
November 01 2011 01:02 GMT
#360
On October 31 2011 19:21 zeru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2011 19:15 MattO1337 wrote:
On October 31 2011 14:43 IdrA wrote:
no. goddamit. someone does something fucking stupid after being a douchebag for a long time and writes an apology that takes 5 minutes and means nothing.
hes still a douchebag. dont be nice to him.

Gotta agree with the Grack.

Fuck anyone who's name ends in milkis

Holding a grudge over something dumb is pretty much a spoiled 16-year old high school girl thing to do. There are man rules, and one of them is men never hold grudges.

I'm gonna have to give both of you a man-warning for breaking the rule. Let this be a learning experience for you two. You're welcome.

People need to stop trying to make big deals out of everything, especially mistakes.


Never holding a grudge is not a rule of man. If my friend decides to fuck my girl because we're having issues or whatever, he's going to be blacklisted for life. I don't give a shit if he says sorry or buys me a car. He showed his true character, I would hold a grudge for life. Does that make me less of a man?

What Milkis did was childish and immature, he showed his true character when he broke down because the internet teased him. People judged him and that's that. Forgiveness is overrated. If you want to continue to support him that's fine and dandy, just don't expect others to follow suit.
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