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Yoinhell
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada49 Posts
October 29 2011 22:25 GMT
#921
Milkis, my opinion of you has always been a great one. You are a great representative for what our community believes in, however quitting because somebody else irritated you, changes my perspective quite a bit. If you go back on your word and come back, I will have looked at this as a means to bring attention to yourself. If you don't, I will look at you as a "cry baby". I understand that it must be hard for you, but it's hard for everyone, it doesn't mean we just give up, instead we just change things for the better. Do what you want to do, whether or not people like it, because there will always be fans and haters regardless of where you end up.

I mean no disrespect, good luck in your future endeavors.
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
October 29 2011 22:26 GMT
#922
On October 30 2011 07:22 Ruscour wrote:
I think a lot of people here are misunderstanding what happened on Reddit/Twitter...people are not attacking him because they don't like him. People are attacking him because he wrote a lengthy post about why BW is the only eSport and everything else is utter horseshit. djWHEAT et al called him out for it and that was that.

With the elitist attitude you have, Milkis, you shouldn't be involved in eSports. Best of luck in your future, you made the right decision to leave.


He didn't say anything was horseshit at all. Way to misconstrue it. He just put the bar at being an esport at or above what BW is right now for some decent reasons, then gave 90% of his post to describing the past BW scene.

Then people got all angry because hungry-hungry hippos with MaxisOnline is now not an esport.
Ruyguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada988 Posts
October 29 2011 22:27 GMT
#923
On October 30 2011 04:32 Frank Drebin wrote:
Dear Mister-I'm-Too-Good-To-Translate-For-My-Fans
This'll be the last thread I ever write your ass
It's been six hours and still no word - I don't deserve it
I know you got my last two posts;
I wrote your handle on 'em perfect
So this is my critique I'm sending you, I hope you read it
I'm on the web right now learning how you hate ESPORTS
Hey Milkis, I think you're being harsh... can't you see it?
You know that thread you made... do you believe it?
About how you think Brood War is more valid
Than others, but the way that you wrote it it really sounded
Like you didn't know better, like your judgdment was clouded
But now it's too late; you've made a thread and it's resounded
And all we wanted was a lousy clarification of it all
But instead you took your Twitter and your Reddit off the wall
We love you Milkis, we coulda been together, think about it
You ruined it now, I hope you can't sleep and you dream about it
And when you dream I hope you can't sleep and you scream about it
I hope your conscience eats at you and you can't breathe without me
See Milkis; [*screaming*] Shut up bitch! I'm tryin to talk!
Hey Milkis, that's ESPORTS screamin in the trunk
But you didn't take it down... you just hurt it, it's just like you
Cause if it bleeds a little it'll suffer more then die too
Well, gotta go, I'm almost at the bridge now
Oh shit, I forgot, STOP HURTING ESPORTS JESUS CHRIST MILKIS
[car tires squeal] [CRASH]
.. [brief silence] .. [LOUD splash]

Wow so funny and creative haha
Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
October 29 2011 22:27 GMT
#924
He'll be back. He got the taste of being an "insider" in the SC2 community and in a couple of days he'll miss it. The fact that he let random opinions on the internet dictate his path in life is pretty sad considering how much vocal support he had.

If he doesn't return, I sincerely hope he doesn't have a future career in the public eye. The shit he got in this small community is a drop in the Atlantic Ocean compared to the real world. GL
alot = a lot (TWO WORDS)
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-29 22:30:09
October 29 2011 22:28 GMT
#925
On October 30 2011 07:25 Muffinman53 wrote:
I just read the Reddit thread and all I can say is:
Fuck you, Slasher, Wheat, and all the other people who bashed the shit out of Milkis.

We love you man <3


Both those guys have done more for E-Sports then him, and he just basically went and slapped everything they have done over the past 10 years n the face.

Yea I'd be pissed too.

This is the biggest overreaction ever and pretty lol, he says he never wanted fame, but as soon as he got it he used to it push his views multiple times (ex: TSL/EG, Esports, etc).

I thought he was a really humble and cool dude, but if he can't handle any negativity then this is not the industry for him.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
October 29 2011 22:29 GMT
#926
On October 30 2011 07:25 Muffinman53 wrote:
I just read the Reddit thread and all I can say is:
Fuck you, Slasher, Wheat, and all the other people who bashed the shit out of Milkis.

We love you man <3

You did not read the Reddit thread. djWHEAT strongly disagreed with Milkis' extremely elitist thread about how BW is the only eSport, Slasher posted in the thread about Milkis leaving telling him not to leave. Get your facts straight.
Conquerer67
Profile Joined May 2011
United States605 Posts
October 29 2011 22:30 GMT
#927
On October 30 2011 06:59 hysterial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 04:32 Frank Drebin wrote:
Dear Mister-I'm-Too-Good-To-Translate-For-My-Fans
This'll be the last thread I ever write your ass
It's been six hours and still no word - I don't deserve it
I know you got my last two posts;
I wrote your handle on 'em perfect
So this is my critique I'm sending you, I hope you read it
I'm on the web right now learning how you hate ESPORTS
Hey Milkis, I think you're being harsh... can't you see it?
You know that thread you made... do you believe it?
About how you think Brood War is more valid
Than others, but the way that you wrote it it really sounded
Like you didn't know better, like your judgdment was clouded
But now it's too late; you've made a thread and it's resounded
And all we wanted was a lousy clarification of it all
But instead you took your Twitter and your Reddit off the wall
We love you Milkis, we coulda been together, think about it
You ruined it now, I hope you can't sleep and you dream about it
And when you dream I hope you can't sleep and you scream about it
I hope your conscience eats at you and you can't breathe without me
See Milkis; [*screaming*] Shut up bitch! I'm tryin to talk!
Hey Milkis, that's ESPORTS screamin in the trunk
But you didn't take it down... you just hurt it, it's just like you
Cause if it bleeds a little it'll suffer more then die too
Well, gotta go, I'm almost at the bridge now
Oh shit, I forgot, STOP HURTING ESPORTS JESUS CHRIST MILKIS
[car tires squeal] [CRASH]
.. [brief silence] .. [LOUD splash]


This was literally perfect...


Indeed, lol at Eminem reference.

And Milkis, WHYYYYYYYYYYYY. You'll be missed. A lot.

Well, a closing song is due, unfortunately.
I hate when people compare SC2 and rochambeu. One race isn't fucking supposed to counter another one. | Protoss isn't OP. Their units on the other hand....
Ouga
Profile Joined March 2008
Finland645 Posts
October 29 2011 22:30 GMT
#928
It's not possible to be visible character in scene without occasionally getting trashed. If it's too much to hear undeserved criticism from time to time, suppose it's not possible to stay high end character in scene. You know if there's internetpoll about ANYTHING, there'll always be 1% who disagree, even if it's about getting world peace up. Minorities tend to be noisy, and you just have to be able to ignore them if you want to be part of the scene and a visible character. You think people like incontrol have deserved the constant hatemail he gets? Seems like the nicest guy after all, but there's just no way to not get some hatemail as a recogniced person.
marcesr
Profile Joined June 2008
Germany1383 Posts
October 29 2011 22:31 GMT
#929
This is a pretty sad story.
qwertyindeed
Profile Joined November 2010
151 Posts
October 29 2011 22:33 GMT
#930
is this for real?
javy_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1677 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-29 22:34:37
October 29 2011 22:33 GMT
#931
On October 30 2011 07:26 cz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 07:22 Ruscour wrote:
I think a lot of people here are misunderstanding what happened on Reddit/Twitter...people are not attacking him because they don't like him. People are attacking him because he wrote a lengthy post about why BW is the only eSport and everything else is utter horseshit. djWHEAT et al called him out for it and that was that.

With the elitist attitude you have, Milkis, you shouldn't be involved in eSports. Best of luck in your future, you made the right decision to leave.


He didn't say anything was horseshit at all. Way to misconstrue it. He just put the bar at being an esport at or above what BW is right now for some decent reasons, then gave 90% of his post to describing the past BW scene.

Then people got all angry because hungry-hungry hippos with MaxisOnline is now not an esport.


"Everytime I see someone call some other game an eSport, I get taken aback a bit. This is because while it is true that many of these games such as Counter Strike or Quake do have a large competitive scene, to call it a "sport", that is, to give those games all the implications behind such a word is a bit too far fetched."

"For the last decade the scene in Brood War blew away anything else the entire world had combined"
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/lstnm/as_promised_my_very_elitist_description_of_brood/

do you understand how fucking condescending and disrespectful to everyone involved with these games this is? It shows just how ignorant he is outside the world of BW, and he was called out on it. Imagine the kind of response someone would get if they said they same thing about BW and posted it on TL.
♪~( ̄。 ̄)
AdelSC123
Profile Joined March 2010
France362 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-29 22:35:02
October 29 2011 22:33 GMT
#932
Dont listen to haters ! Milkis...
As a former quaker that switched to BW late 2k8 and sc2 when the beta arrived:

I CAN tell that no other game can compare to BW.

Btw wheat saying that other gamers can compare to S class players (savior, bisu, flash, jeadong ect) is such a joke...I mean I fucking love toxjq, but even him cant compare to the amount of practice they had to do to get to that point, i dont even think you can compare him to B class players...

I wont even comment on counter strike and some other games that have nothing required to be a good esport outside of the popularity.
gilligan156
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60 Posts
October 29 2011 22:34 GMT
#933
Milkis I almost never post on here but I just want you to know that I deeply respect you and everything you do for this community. So does everyone else. I've spoken with my clan and Barcraft goers about you and everyone has the same level of respect and admiration for you.

Do you want me to be completely honest? When I was still new to all of this and I was watching you translate live on a stream, I made a joke to a friend of mine about how you seemed shy or nervous or something. He SNAPPED at me. Yelled at me even, that I would not allowed to say anything bad about you and to shut the fuck up. I learned right there that I was wrong and in the time since then I really do have a tremendous amount of respect for you.

Respect like that is earned, never given, and you have that respect from 99% of us. Don't let that 1% that doesn't yet understand get to you.
tirentu
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1257 Posts
October 29 2011 22:34 GMT
#934
Milkis, you do good work. We would love you a lot more than we already do if you learned to shut the fuck up and stop being such a goddamn drama queen.
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
October 29 2011 22:35 GMT
#935
On October 30 2011 07:33 javy925 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 07:26 cz wrote:
On October 30 2011 07:22 Ruscour wrote:
I think a lot of people here are misunderstanding what happened on Reddit/Twitter...people are not attacking him because they don't like him. People are attacking him because he wrote a lengthy post about why BW is the only eSport and everything else is utter horseshit. djWHEAT et al called him out for it and that was that.

With the elitist attitude you have, Milkis, you shouldn't be involved in eSports. Best of luck in your future, you made the right decision to leave.


He didn't say anything was horseshit at all. Way to misconstrue it. He just put the bar at being an esport at or above what BW is right now for some decent reasons, then gave 90% of his post to describing the past BW scene.

Then people got all angry because hungry-hungry hippos with MaxisOnline is now not an esport.


"Everytime I see someone call some other game an eSport, I get taken aback a bit. This is because while it is true that many of these games such as Counter Strike or Quake do have a large competitive scene, to call it a "sport", that is, to give those games all the implications behind such a word is a bit too far fetched."

"For the last decade the scene in Brood War blew away anything else the entire world had combined"

do you understand how fucking condescending and disrespectful to everyone involved with these games this is? It shows just how ignorant he is outside the world of BW, and he was called out on it. Imagine the kind of response someone would get if they said they same thing about BW and posted it on TL.

I'm sorry, but I have to agree with him. And I love watching Quake.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
Noxie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2227 Posts
October 29 2011 22:35 GMT
#936
This is exactly why community members and professionals should not read forums and blog posts about them. There is nothing but haters and people wanting to be critical.

Milkis you did fine. Hope you come back.
PharaohLarry
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada70 Posts
October 29 2011 22:36 GMT
#937
I didn't really followed what happened. To me, Milkis is the cool translator who bridged the gap between the foreign and Korean scene. Getting MKP to MLG, providing stellar translations - thats who I know Milkis as. Sad to see him go =( I think there will always be a place in the community for him, should he want to return.

앞으로, 욕한말을 걱정하지마라! Milkis 역자가 진짜 대단하고 아끼 자 않는 사람이다. 님내, 아자! ^^ (죄송해, 난 아직 한국어를 배우고 있다. 아직도 유창하게 못한다).

화이팅!
ZachFreeman
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia484 Posts
October 29 2011 22:37 GMT
#938
It's quite funny reading the comments of the thread and people are saying the kinds of things Milkis is talking about which is making him stop in the first place.
GIVE ME COMMAND
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-29 22:42:14
October 29 2011 22:38 GMT
#939
Can someone show me a link of what even happened to create this situation?
Missed it completely.

There is no doubt that Milkis did some awesome stuff and his name got a late bigger.

But if your names gets bigger your opinion also matters more because a lot of people listen to it, and that's when u have to watch out with what ur saying.
So yeh... if u say something controversial u are gonna get shit for it.

If every1 cared about some haters there wouldn't be progamers anymore cuz every1 would retire in the next 5 minutes.

Fact is that it's easy to say stuff on the interwebz, you read something u don't agree with?
''OMG ARE U RETARDED WHAAA'', in real life u would get hit in the face if u react like that :p.

That's why most people don't care about haters, it's just a bunch of randoms.
If u do care about them u should either fix it or indeed just quit cuz you won't have a good time.

Every1 is allowed to have their own opinion, but if u are an established name in the community and your opinion is quite controversial off course people are gonna call you out on it, that's the way it works. U gotta be able to handle that
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
October 29 2011 22:38 GMT
#940
On October 30 2011 07:28 Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 07:25 Muffinman53 wrote:
I just read the Reddit thread and all I can say is:
Fuck you, Slasher, Wheat, and all the other people who bashed the shit out of Milkis.

We love you man <3


Both those guys have done more for E-Sports then him, and he just basically went and slapped everything they have done over the past 10 years n the face.

Yea I'd be pissed too.

This is the biggest overreaction ever and pretty lol, he says he never wanted fame, but as soon as he got it he used to it push his views multiple times (ex: TSL/EG, Esports, etc).

I thought he was a really humble and cool dude, but if he can't handle any negativity then this is not the industry for him.


I agree, if you can't handle the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
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