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TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
October 24 2011 16:09 GMT
#21
On October 25 2011 00:37 Geovu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 00:15 TBone- wrote:
Theres a place for rants like this, and its called The Letting Off Steam Thread, here you go http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=235432

Also hate the build not the player.

The player is the one using the build, you aren't forced to use it and Terran is doing great vs Protoss even if you discount this scumbag piece of shit build.

So yes, I will hate the player.

"not until Terran gets better units" wtf I should really stop playing this game, it has become a waste of my time -_-
HoTS is only going to break Protoss more, I guess I'll check back in 5 years for LoTV and see if Blizzard has stopped their meth abuse and got rid of the Terran banners flying around their HQ.


Is all that really necessary? I mean it's not like Protoss is violently underpowered now, and it most likely won't be in the expansion. And I would say Terran isn't incredibly overpowered or "blizzard favored".
Eve online FC, lover of all competition
Kukaracha
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France1954 Posts
October 24 2011 16:11 GMT
#22
Oh but wait a sec, didn't MC and Huk win?

Hummm...
So people complain that 90% of TvP is bioball, then complain 90% is 1-1-1.
Oops, it doesn't add up.


Also, allins work very well at high level, but Plat level micro? Let me use my maniac laugh.
Le long pour l'un pour l'autre est court (le mot-à-mot du mot "amour").
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
October 24 2011 16:13 GMT
#23
The ladder not letting you pick the maps and races you play against (like iCCup did) is a significant turn-off for players wanting to practice. I'd much rather hit up practice partners for a set of games rather than gamble I get a situation I'm interested in playing.

Yeah, you're going to have the equivalent of the guy that 10/15 rushes on Longinus all the way to B+, but was anyone really looking at the ladder for the ultimate expression of ability anyway?
Geovu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Estonia1344 Posts
October 24 2011 16:22 GMT
#24
On October 25 2011 01:13 Dfgj wrote:
The ladder not letting you pick the maps and races you play against (like iCCup did) is a significant turn-off for players wanting to practice. I'd much rather hit up practice partners for a set of games rather than gamble I get a situation I'm interested in playing.

Yeah, you're going to have the equivalent of the guy that 10/15 rushes on Longinus all the way to B+, but was anyone really looking at the ladder for the ultimate expression of ability anyway?

Blizzard uses ladder to find people to put in their own tournaments, no?

Apparently ladder IS ultimate expression of ability for them.
Geordie
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom653 Posts
October 24 2011 16:35 GMT
#25
If you were good you would be able to hold it off, end of story.
DJWilma
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada740 Posts
October 24 2011 23:51 GMT
#26
Well basically, its all about the fact I still havn't cracked the idea of holding off the 1-1-1, like I can hold it off, but I'm never ahead when I do it. I know I just gotta figure out a solid way to beat it, but my compaint is I'm sick of it. I'm not really saying that protoss is shit, but I just want some variety in my play, so when I do win a TvP it feels like an achievement not just the fact that I could easily stop a 1-1-1. When a terran does something other than 1-1-1 and I beat him, I feel really good about it, usualyl if I beat the 1-1-1 i think its cuz he really doesnt know how to 1-1-1
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rsvp
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States2266 Posts
October 25 2011 00:31 GMT
#27
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=250379

This build is so easy to execute for protoss to stop 1-1-1. It takes literally no micro at all from the protoss side.

Also I still get a lot of satisfaction smashing 1-1-1's.
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
October 25 2011 01:18 GMT
#28
This is a horrible idea... 1-1-1 is not some insta win build.
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jeeeeohn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1343 Posts
October 25 2011 02:01 GMT
#29
On October 25 2011 00:15 TBone- wrote:
Theres a place for rants like this, and its called The Letting Off Steam Thread, here you go http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=235432

Also hate the build not the player.


I'd just like to say how cool it is that people are quoting my thread.

Anyways, normally I would agree (I'd veto ZvP in a heartbeat), but like the others have said: it won't help you get better, and eventually the ladder would stagnate as every player would veto their most hated matchup, which is usually shared by other members of their race.
If you can't jam with the best, then you have to slam with the rest.
FreudianTrip
Profile Joined July 2011
Switzerland1983 Posts
October 25 2011 02:19 GMT
#30
Flank with Zealots and/or Immortal.
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
October 25 2011 02:40 GMT
#31
You should switch to terran, you won't have to play PvT anymore.
ॐ
Kukaracha
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France1954 Posts
October 25 2011 08:34 GMT
#32
On October 25 2011 09:31 Anihc wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=250379

This build is so easy to execute for protoss to stop 1-1-1. It takes literally no micro at all from the protoss side.

Also I still get a lot of satisfaction smashing 1-1-1's.


Quoting this as this is a very difficult response to deal with as a Terran.
To hold-off 1-base pushes, you shouldn't just try to hold it off. Either attack and crush the T before (Sentry-heavy 4Gate), or FE like the linked build suggests to. You'll be ahead.
Le long pour l'un pour l'autre est court (le mot-à-mot du mot "amour").
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