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On October 25 2011 00:37 Geovu wrote:The player is the one using the build, you aren't forced to use it and Terran is doing great vs Protoss even if you discount this scumbag piece of shit build. So yes, I will hate the player. "not until Terran gets better units" wtf I should really stop playing this game, it has become a waste of my time -_- HoTS is only going to break Protoss more, I guess I'll check back in 5 years for LoTV and see if Blizzard has stopped their meth abuse and got rid of the Terran banners flying around their HQ.
Is all that really necessary? I mean it's not like Protoss is violently underpowered now, and it most likely won't be in the expansion. And I would say Terran isn't incredibly overpowered or "blizzard favored".
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Oh but wait a sec, didn't MC and Huk win?
Hummm...
So people complain that 90% of TvP is bioball, then complain 90% is 1-1-1.
Oops, it doesn't add up.
Also, allins work very well at high level, but Plat level micro? Let me use my maniac laugh.
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The ladder not letting you pick the maps and races you play against (like iCCup did) is a significant turn-off for players wanting to practice. I'd much rather hit up practice partners for a set of games rather than gamble I get a situation I'm interested in playing.
Yeah, you're going to have the equivalent of the guy that 10/15 rushes on Longinus all the way to B+, but was anyone really looking at the ladder for the ultimate expression of ability anyway?
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On October 25 2011 01:13 Dfgj wrote:
The ladder not letting you pick the maps and races you play against (like iCCup did) is a significant turn-off for players wanting to practice. I'd much rather hit up practice partners for a set of games rather than gamble I get a situation I'm interested in playing.
Yeah, you're going to have the equivalent of the guy that 10/15 rushes on Longinus all the way to B+, but was anyone really looking at the ladder for the ultimate expression of ability anyway?
Blizzard uses ladder to find people to put in their own tournaments, no?
Apparently ladder IS ultimate expression of ability for them.
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If you were good you would be able to hold it off, end of story.
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Well basically, its all about the fact I still havn't cracked the idea of holding off the 1-1-1, like I can hold it off, but I'm never ahead when I do it. I know I just gotta figure out a solid way to beat it, but my compaint is I'm sick of it. I'm not really saying that protoss is shit, but I just want some variety in my play, so when I do win a TvP it feels like an achievement not just the fact that I could easily stop a 1-1-1. When a terran does something other than 1-1-1 and I beat him, I feel really good about it, usualyl if I beat the 1-1-1 i think its cuz he really doesnt know how to 1-1-1 
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This is a horrible idea... 1-1-1 is not some insta win build.
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I'd just like to say how cool it is that people are quoting my thread.
Anyways, normally I would agree (I'd veto ZvP in a heartbeat), but like the others have said: it won't help you get better, and eventually the ladder would stagnate as every player would veto their most hated matchup, which is usually shared by other members of their race.
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Flank with Zealots and/or Immortal.
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You should switch to terran, you won't have to play PvT anymore.
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Quoting this as this is a very difficult response to deal with as a Terran.
To hold-off 1-base pushes, you shouldn't just try to hold it off. Either attack and crush the T before (Sentry-heavy 4Gate), or FE like the linked build suggests to. You'll be ahead.
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