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marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
September 08 2011 08:31 GMT
#21
What the fuck... As a scandinavian my image of Hawaii is a happy paradise with beaches and shit.

jeezus...
memes are a dish best served dank
FourFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
701 Posts
September 08 2011 08:32 GMT
#22
They're probably pissed about businessmen contaminating their crops with gene-manipulated ones. I think I saw a documentary about it.
I don't know, lynch me!
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
September 08 2011 08:32 GMT
#23
For starters I have to say that racism is the height of ignorance and stupidity, imo.

But knowing nothing of living in Hawaii myself I have to wonder if part of the reason they hate white people is because it wasn't that long ago that Hawaii was totally fucked over by white people. There are still huge racism problems in the south between blacks and whites, a lot of that goes back to the Civil War. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of their racism derives from their past in Hawaii as well.

That said, it doesn't justify their racism.
StimiLant
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States534 Posts
September 08 2011 08:34 GMT
#24
nice rant but is there a way for you go get out of hawaii asap?
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4179 Posts
September 08 2011 08:38 GMT
#25
Wow I thought Hawaii's a vacation paradise. Hard to imagine this kind of racism surrounding it. Or maybe the places tourists go to aren't affected as much compared to the city and town areas?
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 08 2011 08:40 GMT
#26
Okay hold on- I haven't heard of ANY of the racism and granted I'm on the opposite side of the country, you'd still hear about it. What the hell.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Makaveli1
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States118 Posts
September 08 2011 08:46 GMT
#27
Hawaiians are nice to people in touristy areas, because they can easily make money off them, but once you move in to one of there small towns they get really passive agressive, I cant really put a word on it.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 08 2011 08:54 GMT
#28
But can you put any proof in the segregation claim?
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
September 08 2011 08:56 GMT
#29
from my brief time in hawaii i can vouch for the OP, exploring beyond touristy areas to the ghettos can get you in trouble. from what i could feel there was also a pretty strong hawaiian secessionist movement there too. just stay off the ice!
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 09:00:12
September 08 2011 08:58 GMT
#30
Racism exists everywhere, you'll find it if you look.

I was in Hawaii recently for a while, got to know a native hawaiin dude-- was a cool guy, was proud to be able to speak hawaiian when so many people forgot it, taught me some hawaiian pidgin. (yeah, I'm a white guy).

If you say something like "native Hawaiians hate white people " and then follow it up with statements about how 'they' are so corrupt, etc, that says a lot more about your view of the place than the place itself. That kind of mindset basically creates racism both towards you, and from you.
Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea...
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 08 2011 08:59 GMT
#31
^ benjammin means methamphetamines for the non US readers.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
W2
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1177 Posts
September 08 2011 09:00 GMT
#32
It can't be worse than being black in the 60's. You can always go out and tan, and rub stuff on your skin til you're bright orange. Now you look Hawaiian!
Hi
Makaveli1
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States118 Posts
September 08 2011 09:02 GMT
#33
obviously not all native hawaiins hate white people, but in my experience most of the hawaiians i try to talk to, wont even make eye contact with me. And the local government here is corrupt, to put it bluntly, but most people who live here dont care.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 09:09:33
September 08 2011 09:08 GMT
#34
And I thought white people are racists. :o
I hope you find a solution soon enough though.
caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 09:14:30
September 08 2011 09:09 GMT
#35
On September 08 2011 18:02 Makaveli1 wrote:
obviously not all native hawaiins hate white people, but in my experience most of the hawaiians i try to talk to, wont even make eye contact with me. And the local government here is corrupt, to put it bluntly, but most people who live here dont care.



Well, you can justify racism in your own perspectives by talking about corruption and making blanket general statements about what kind of people native hawaiians are, or you can look for areas in your own experience that don't exhibit racism and build from there.

I can guarantee that if you continue to assume that all or most native hawaiians are unfriendly/corrupt/hate white people to begin with, that mentality will come across in your own interactions with other people, and you'll come across as judgemental/racist, and thus encourage that type of mentality when you interact with people. I think a better alternative for me would be to give people the benefit of the doubt at times, and be disappointed some of the time, but have overall more positive experiences with the people you deal with day to day.

Ask yourself this-- would you rather be friends with someone who assumed before he met you that you were a judgemental asshole, or someone that thought you would be cool to hang out with and probably a decent guy? Now look at the way you are assuming, and imagine how others see you. I don't think you're that kind of person, so you should give people the benefit of the doubt so they don't mistake you for that kind of person.
Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea...
benjammin
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2728 Posts
September 08 2011 09:19 GMT
#36
On September 08 2011 17:58 caradoc wrote:
Racism exists everywhere, you'll find it if you look.

I was in Hawaii recently for a while, got to know a native hawaiin dude-- was a cool guy, was proud to be able to speak hawaiian when so many people forgot it, taught me some hawaiian pidgin. (yeah, I'm a white guy).

If you say something like "native Hawaiians hate white people " and then follow it up with statements about how 'they' are so corrupt, etc, that says a lot more about your view of the place than the place itself. That kind of mindset basically creates racism both towards you, and from you.


you can't really use an anecdote as a counterargument to a generalization, things don't need to be 100% consistent to be a tendency
wash uffitizi, drive me to firenze
Cham
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
797 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 09:20:28
September 08 2011 09:19 GMT
#37
My friends who were stationed in Hawaii have told me the exact same things so I am going to have to think what the TC is saying is true. I've been warned to not get stationed there because of the severe limitations on where you can be without getting jumped for being white. I didn't really believe them, but if I am hearing it from two different sources, I'd have to think it is at least a little bit true.
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
September 08 2011 09:23 GMT
#38
So why are you still living there?

Sounds like you shouldn't be there if you ask me.
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
September 08 2011 09:32 GMT
#39
Funny how he mentioned that he moved to there so he has actually experience what's living there like, and there comes a bunch of people, who never been to Hawaii or just at the populated tourist areas or a friend or their friend's friend said that it's not really bad, and trying to tell him that he must be wrong. I know for a lot of you (and you are fortunate) hard to imagine that racism against white people is as strong as racism against non-whites at some places, or even stronger. (duh South Africa)
I don't really know what to say, maybe you should move to a more tourist friendly area in Hawaii.
ggaemo fan
Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 09:36:21
September 08 2011 09:35 GMT
#40
I was in Hawaii a few months ago, and I never experienced any racism. We were on Kauai though, not Maui.

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