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marttorn
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FourFace
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overt
United States9006 Posts
But knowing nothing of living in Hawaii myself I have to wonder if part of the reason they hate white people is because it wasn't that long ago that Hawaii was totally fucked over by white people. There are still huge racism problems in the south between blacks and whites, a lot of that goes back to the Civil War. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of their racism derives from their past in Hawaii as well. That said, it doesn't justify their racism. | ||
StimiLant
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Dante08
Singapore4119 Posts
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Probe1
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Makaveli1
United States118 Posts
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benjammin
United States2728 Posts
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caradoc
Canada3022 Posts
I was in Hawaii recently for a while, got to know a native hawaiin dude-- was a cool guy, was proud to be able to speak hawaiian when so many people forgot it, taught me some hawaiian pidgin. (yeah, I'm a white guy). If you say something like "native Hawaiians hate white people " and then follow it up with statements about how 'they' are so corrupt, etc, that says a lot more about your view of the place than the place itself. That kind of mindset basically creates racism both towards you, and from you. | ||
Probe1
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United States1177 Posts
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Makaveli1
United States118 Posts
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
I hope you find a solution soon enough though. | ||
caradoc
Canada3022 Posts
On September 08 2011 18:02 Makaveli1 wrote: obviously not all native hawaiins hate white people, but in my experience most of the hawaiians i try to talk to, wont even make eye contact with me. And the local government here is corrupt, to put it bluntly, but most people who live here dont care. Well, you can justify racism in your own perspectives by talking about corruption and making blanket general statements about what kind of people native hawaiians are, or you can look for areas in your own experience that don't exhibit racism and build from there. I can guarantee that if you continue to assume that all or most native hawaiians are unfriendly/corrupt/hate white people to begin with, that mentality will come across in your own interactions with other people, and you'll come across as judgemental/racist, and thus encourage that type of mentality when you interact with people. I think a better alternative for me would be to give people the benefit of the doubt at times, and be disappointed some of the time, but have overall more positive experiences with the people you deal with day to day. Ask yourself this-- would you rather be friends with someone who assumed before he met you that you were a judgemental asshole, or someone that thought you would be cool to hang out with and probably a decent guy? Now look at the way you are assuming, and imagine how others see you. I don't think you're that kind of person, so you should give people the benefit of the doubt so they don't mistake you for that kind of person. | ||
benjammin
United States2728 Posts
On September 08 2011 17:58 caradoc wrote: Racism exists everywhere, you'll find it if you look. I was in Hawaii recently for a while, got to know a native hawaiin dude-- was a cool guy, was proud to be able to speak hawaiian when so many people forgot it, taught me some hawaiian pidgin. (yeah, I'm a white guy). If you say something like "native Hawaiians hate white people " and then follow it up with statements about how 'they' are so corrupt, etc, that says a lot more about your view of the place than the place itself. That kind of mindset basically creates racism both towards you, and from you. you can't really use an anecdote as a counterargument to a generalization, things don't need to be 100% consistent to be a tendency | ||
Cham
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
Sounds like you shouldn't be there if you ask me. | ||
valaki
Hungary2476 Posts
I don't really know what to say, maybe you should move to a more tourist friendly area in Hawaii. | ||
Masq
Canada1792 Posts
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