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Follow these rules or else you'll face Milkis's force fields...
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PS: If you're asking for a picture... please dont ask me to take the picture for you guys. I'd appreciate it. Thanks!
But can I ask to take a picture of you?
EDIT: or better yet, ask one of the Koreans to take a picture of me with you?
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That's a lot to expect out of fans in terms of knowledge.
Unless you're on the main stage, it's hard to know if a player is going to be going to the next match or just lost.
You can't tell if the pro is going to the bathroom or to eat... I would never ask for an autograph when they are eating.
Believe it or not, not everyone recognizes E-sports community members. If I see you standing next to a pro chances are I will ask you to take the pic (not this time because plenty of friends are coming to this one).
All of these are reasonable expectations - but please don't shit on fans who make honest mistakes. It's not their fault 90 percent of the time.
The 30 minute autograph periods are actually rough because you stand in line for a long time to say two words to the pro.
My favorite thing about Raleigh was talking about strategy and the actual game with the pros all in a circle - they were really accessible. As much as the events are improving, it really sucks that this is not possible any more.
That's one of the biggest reasons I love Incontrol and day9. Even when they were exhausted they made efforts to have real conversations with real community members.
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On August 26 2011 13:01 Loodah wrote:
That's a lot to expect out of fans in terms of knowledge.
Unless you're on the main stage, it's hard to know if a player is going to be going to the next match or just lost.
You can't tell if the pro is going to the bathroom or to eat... I would never ask for an autograph when they are eating.
Believe it or not, not everyone recognizes E-sports community members. If I see you standing next to a pro chances are I will ask you to take the pic (not this time because plenty of friends are coming to this one).
All of these are reasonable expectations - but please don't shit on fans who make honest mistakes. It's not their fault 90 percent of the time.
The 30 minute autograph periods are actually rough because you stand in line for a long time to say two words to the pro.
My favorite thing about Raleigh was talking about strategy and the actual game with the pros all in a circle - they were really accessible. As much as the events are improving, it really sucks that this is not possible any more.
That's one of the biggest reasons I love Incontrol and day9. Even when they were exhausted they made efforts to have real conversations with real community members.
Yeah, I agree with you on this, but I also agree with the main points. I think the overall thing to take from this is to treat these players like human beings and try to think of things from their shoes as well. Come on, they are human beings and as long as you considering this beforehand, then you should be alright. Most of the people understand mistakes, but also as a fan you have to understand their positions.
Just be civil and if a pro players is upset about a loss, eating, or trying to take a piss, don't bother them please. If they are busy, don't take offense if they don't have time to spend with you. If they do, that is awesome that they do. If they make extra effort, more power to them.
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I remember one of the first things I saw at Columbus was oGsMC, SlayerSMMA, and IMLosirA walking into the convention center with you, Milkis (I think it was you, anyway). So I proceeded to ask if I could have a picture with the players. You (or the other guy) said that there would be a photo op later, but I persisted in asking until I got the picture:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/UrjiQ.jpg)
The picture ended up spoiling the MLG Columbus podium (Gold/Silver/Bronze) a full 2 and a half days before the competition ended.
EDIT: I'm the kid with the goofy looking smile on the left. My friend is the white-guy on the right.
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What if they're washing up in the restroom? is that a good time?
Or how about if they walk into the restroom, and you're already there?
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United Kingdom16710 Posts
And remember; Geoff is willing to sign autographs while he's answering nature's call, as long as you 'assist' him with logistics.
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All this should be common sense. D:
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On August 26 2011 13:01 Loodah wrote:
That's a lot to expect out of fans in terms of knowledge.
Unless you're on the main stage, it's hard to know if a player is going to be going to the next match or just lost.
You can't tell if the pro is going to the bathroom or to eat... I would never ask for an autograph when they are eating.
Believe it or not, not everyone recognizes E-sports community members. If I see you standing next to a pro chances are I will ask you to take the pic (not this time because plenty of friends are coming to this one).
All of these are reasonable expectations - but please don't shit on fans who make honest mistakes. It's not their fault 90 percent of the time.
The 30 minute autograph periods are actually rough because you stand in line for a long time to say two words to the pro.
My favorite thing about Raleigh was talking about strategy and the actual game with the pros all in a circle - they were really accessible. As much as the events are improving, it really sucks that this is not possible any more.
That's one of the biggest reasons I love Incontrol and day9. Even when they were exhausted they made efforts to have real conversations with real community members.
Go to the info booth. You can figure out where they will be next and their schedules pretty easily
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Thanks for making the post milkis
here's to hoping nada wins both games on saturday and that i can stealthily get him to sign something for me
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basically just don't try to get one, it's not worth the trouble anyways
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i mean I'd rather ask for a hand shake
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On August 26 2011 21:41 evanthebouncy! wrote:
i mean I'd rather ask for a hand shake
This + reading the post about inc's nature call made me laugh ^^
I think it's a good thing that there's a guideline for fans. But is every fan going to read this blog?
Are they even teamliquid posters or lurkers?
Should've made some time schedule to ask players for their autographs and pictures tbh :p
Makes it much more organized for you and for the players so that they can focus on the games outside of the schedule and during the schedule focus on the fans.
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I met artosis in columbus and made the most awkward fool out of myself because i was so nervous LOL.
Even if people remember these things when they're sitting at their desk on TL, sometimes it all goes out the window when they're meeting someone they're a huge fan of in person
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1. Agree
2. 100% agree
3. Agree. Paying for their meal should be worth an autograph though if you'd be so
Inclined
4. Ehhhhh
5. If there's a crowd of people behind you, you might as well be the first one to start the chain. Being considerate enough to not ask will not deter other people from doing the same
Good rules though, and gl hf this weekend, stay dry!
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On August 26 2011 15:09 StarStruck wrote:
All this should be common sense. D:
There are people who doesn't use or have common sense. THIS should be common knowledge.
I wonder if you are a girl and ask them to sign your boobs.. would it bother the player despite the situation/timing.
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Calgary26003 Posts
I think it's pretty fair game to ask anytime lol. If they don't want to they can say no. We're all big boys.
Edit: Milkis, you gotta understand that the people who sit back all nervous able whether it's appropriate or not to ask are going to be the people missing out. Fortune favours the bold. People shouldn't hesitate to politely ask for an autograph in my opinion.
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Yet tyler had a good point he has a mindset to stay in.
Even having to listen and answer a question can mess up someone who plays needing that mindset.
Following these guidelines seems fair.
Soon we are gonna have a backstage and you will only be able to see the players when they come out for their signings ;p
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I don't feel that the rules are unreasonable, but I think Milkis is comfortable enough to say "no autographs" (or at least comfortable to say it to me T_T). I think its slightly the fan's responsibility to understand that they can't get there stuff signed. At NASL and Anaheim, it seemed like mostly all the fans were understanding if a player was practicing or wanted to be left alone.
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On August 27 2011 02:10 Chill wrote:
I think it's pretty fair game to ask anytime lol. If they don't want to they can say no. We're all big boys.
Edit: Milkis, you gotta understand that the people who sit back all nervous able whether it's appropriate or not to ask are going to be the people missing out. Fortune favours the bold. People shouldn't hesitate to politely ask for an autograph in my opinion.
Yeah, that was me at MLG Anaheim. Even though I did get lots of autographs, I had opportunities to get more but I was too nervous to ask and missed out on several I wanted to get... Like Kennigit's. :-)
Also, Milkis wouldn't sign anything for me. :-( j/k (on the frowning, not on the fact that Milkis wouldn't sign something.)
(I remember standing near you, Milkis, when someone else later asked for your autograph, and you asked "Why?" so innocently... It was amusing.)
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On August 27 2011 02:10 Chill wrote:
I think it's pretty fair game to ask anytime lol. If they don't want to they can say no. We're all big boys.
Edit: Milkis, you gotta understand that the people who sit back all nervous able whether it's appropriate or not to ask are going to be the people missing out. Fortune favours the bold. People shouldn't hesitate to politely ask for an autograph in my opinion.
You shouldn't hesitate, you're right. You just have to be more aware of what's going on before you ask.
People asking for autographs when we're literally about to be on stage... that may be "bold" but that's also extremely stupid IMO
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South Africa4316 Posts
On August 27 2011 02:10 Chill wrote:
I think it's pretty fair game to ask anytime lol. If they don't want to they can say no. We're all big boys.
Edit: Milkis, you gotta understand that the people who sit back all nervous able whether it's appropriate or not to ask are going to be the people missing out. Fortune favours the bold. People shouldn't hesitate to politely ask for an autograph in my opinion.
Yeah I agree. If people want to ask, they should ask. The progamer has every right to just say no, but that shouldn't stop people from asking. Fans shouldn't be trying to please the players, players should be trying to please the fans. These rules seem a bit... pretentious to me. I mean, as much as we love our progamers, they are still minor celebrities at best, and I've never heard of other sportsmen/celebrities having a set of rules that you need to follow so that they might bless you with an autograph. As I said in the beginning, progamers have all the right in the world to reject an autograph request but that shouldn't stop anyone from asking them.
EDIT: Just to point out, I realise that this is etiquette rather than hard rules, but even so I disagree. It's the fan's job to do what he can to get the autograph, it's the player's job to handle it in a way he sees fit. It's not the fan's job to make being a professional sportsperson easy for the players.
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I understand why they might not want to talk to people while they prepare for their games, or even for the entire tournament. I remember tyler talking about how he has a hard time enjoying fans and competing seriously at the same event. It's understandable, but fans of korean players have almost no opportunity outside of MLG to get autographs/handshakes. And individuals will always jump at opportunities no matter how bad the timing is for the player because they may simply never have the chance again
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
if a progamer can't sign an autograph after they just lost they a little bitch
jus' sayin
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On August 28 2011 01:41 Rekrul wrote:
if a progamer can't sign an autograph after they just lost they a little bitch
jus' sayin
*Looks @ Naniwa*
But really, I hope more people had the chance to get stuff signed at this MLG. I know at Anaheim it was pretty tough for some of us.
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On August 28 2011 01:41 Rekrul wrote:
if a progamer can't sign an autograph after they just lost they a little bitch
jus' sayin
Most of today's ballers were little bitches one day
jus' sayin 
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EPT
at you and saying "no". 
