• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 03:19
CEST 09:19
KST 16:19
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview3TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection5Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview5[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview2
Community News
[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June0Weekly Cups (May 25-31): Clem doubles, 2v2 circuit heads toward finale0StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th151Weekly Cups (May 18-24): MaxPax wins doubles0Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League6
StarCraft 2
General
What kind of tool would you be interested in? Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection
Tourneys
GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 528 Infection Detected Welcome to the External Content forum Mutation # 527 Hell Train
Brood War
General
FlaShFTW vs A.Alm Grudge Match Event BW animated web series: seeking contributors The Korean Terminology Thread 14k games analyzed: Cross Spawn Nexus first good? Data needed
Tourneys
[ASL21] Grand Finals [BSL22] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CEST [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Muta micro map competition [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne ZeroSpace Megathread
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Dating: How's your luck? Trading/Investing Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread How cold is too cold to be outdoors?
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Esportsmanship: How to NOT B…
TrAiDoS
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6919 users

Overcoming Ladder Fear - Promotion Story

Blogs > Iyerbeth
Post a Reply
Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
August 20 2011 21:30 GMT
#1
So today I was bored and I couldn't find any good StarCraft 2 streams or content that I was interested in or that I hadn't already seen and I've been playing Morrowind and Oblivion too much recently (Damn you Novawar!!) and looking through my Steam games nothing was really interesting me enough to want to play it. I wanted something SC2 related...which left SC2.

At that point I'd only played 3 games since season 3 started. It's so easy to decide to do it later, like a chore you're hoping to go away. The truth is I love SC2, I spend most of my time doing everything SC2 related that isn't laddering. The stupid thing about it is, I know I'll enjoy it if I do ladder, and I know I'm good enough to not get demoted if I do play. So I load up the game...and then check my emails instead, code a little and then watch Destiny play a bit.

Some time passed, I got bored of Destiny's stream and I reloaded my SC2.....and decided to watch some of the single player cinematics (Yeah, really). Realising how stupid this was I said to myself, screw it and clicked find match...and the game crashed. I wish I was exagerating for effect, but it resulted in a tie appearing in my match history. So I got back in and dived back in to the Gold League, ZvZ pops up.

ZvZ is my strongest match up so I was feeling fairly confident about this as a game to get back in to laddering, and my opponent expanded faster and teched faster than I did. The only advantage I had was my natural and third were up faster and my overlords were everywhere and I saw the bases as they went up. 5 base to 3 base, I took out the 4th with a group of lings without any problem and the 3rd started droning up as I hit that with the same group of lings, but as my opponents army moved in to crush it, I realised I had the numbers advantage, despite his 9 or so infestors to my 0 (1 on the way). I pushed the offence and eventually took the game. Fairly good first game back, though I could have done better.

Second game turns out to be a ZvZ as well. My GL HF is greeted with silence, and if spending time in the Bronze league teaches you anything it's that silence means cheese. Well in Bronze, find game means cheese, but still, it's a lesson that stuck with me. I decided to drop my usual ZvZ opener for a slightly faster 13 gas 13 pool, reasoning that if I was wrong I could still put some strong pressure on while expanding. Sure enough, I catch site of a drone moving on to my creep and morphing in to a Spine Crawler with 6 lings coming up the ramp, just as my 6 lings hatch in to the fight and with the assistance of a few drones the attack was easily held, and from then I was so far ahead there wasn't much my opponent could do about it.

Game 3, ZvT. That's my worst match up by far, and I chose a risky 15 hatch, 15 pool build for some unknown reason. Maybe the lst two wins were messing with my confidence. At any rate I knew I'd need to beware of a bunker push, so I rallied my 3rd overlord over the spot I'd be expecting it and as it arrives...the bunker finshes. That was faster than I expected, but no problem, my Spine is already morphing, I have 2 queens morphing and about 8 lings. The bunker though turns out to be in range of my hatch and my Spine turns out to be 1 square short of being in range of the bunker. Easy loss.

Game 4. I scout the "unbeatable Destiny build" roach openner with Spine Crawler defense, and so I built up 2 Spine's of my own and got out 3-4 Roaches and put everything else in to Lings and was able to hold the push and find myself one base up. I overly compensate with a few too many units due to lack of scouting but remembering the advice I've been given in the past used the to push the front of my opponents base and was able to force a cancel on his natural. I've used that time to drone up and now have two ssaturated based and I'm feeling fairly confident, but an Overseer in to my opponents main shows a flock of Muta's, for which my only defense is two Queens. Realising I'm about screwed I put down a Hydra den and send all of my Roaches to die knowing if he doesn't want to base race he'll have to defend with the Muta's, which he does and I manage to get enough Hydra's to be safe.

As the game goes on though, my opponents Muta ball grows and I end up stuck on two bases desperately needing gas for a workable army composition. I need a 3rd or I need to end it, but my opponents muta prodding is unending and there's no way I could hold against the now 20+ Mutalisks. By this point I've had to recall all of my Overlords to a ball protected over my natural and I've been working on upgrades and Infestors with Roaches and Hydra's. What followed could only be described as the best Muta control I've ever faced eventually culminating in a final direction swap taking out almost every Overlord I had for maybe 3 Muta's. At this point I realise I have to make my decision right now so I push with what I have and my Hydra's and Infestor's prove enough and I manage to take the win. My opponent says "Well played" before leaving and I feel fairly awesome.

And then I get promoted to Platinum.

My goal this season was to reach top 8 Platinum and now I find myself rank 8 Platinum, admitedly in a new league but there it was. Now I'm about where I've felt I *should* be if I play enough to maintain my skill level, after just 7 games this season.

And now I know I will be risking demotion.

And now I'm scared of laddering again.

And now I'm watching Destiny.

Damn.

****
♥ Liquid`Sheth ♥ Liquid`TLO ♥
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
August 20 2011 21:53 GMT
#2
Don't worry, the exact thing happened to me.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
Harrad
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
1003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 22:13:19
August 20 2011 22:01 GMT
#3
Man you could be talking about me :/ It's so much easier to just burn time watching streams/replays than actually playing, easily supported by the argument that playing a game should be fun, laddering is not etc. I also got promoted recently and was like Hell yeah, now I'm gonna rock the ladder. Only to get crushed in a 4 game loss streak and being bm'd by some zerg which totally kills motivation to ladder for me (yeah I'm pathetic).

It ends up becoming a vicious circle, because if you don't play enough your mechanics won't improve, and if you feel your mechanics are bad/you suck you are naturally insecure about playing, and if you're insecure about playing you won't feel like playing most of time etc etc.
Quesadilla
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1814 Posts
August 20 2011 23:07 GMT
#4
Bro, just play and play a lot. You'll never hit your goals and you'll only begin to try by the time that SC3 comes out. Don't make the mistake that a lot of people did originally with SC1!

Play.
Make a lot of friends. Wear good clothes. Drink good beer. Love a nice girl.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
August 20 2011 23:09 GMT
#5
stop worrying about numbers defining your skill and shit, just get better and that fancy shiny stuff will come along naturally
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
August 20 2011 23:22 GMT
#6
I hear where you coming from, i really do. My only way to get by it was to really force out 3 games inna row without thinking about it, log in, find match, and after a couple games theres nothing to worry about. You kind of forget about the worries you had before, and it turns into a hell of a lot of fun. The hardest thing for me is when i take a break to eat or something, il eat some cereal, mess around, with sc2 chillin in the background, until im like, ok fuck it im laddering now. After like 3 games, man i could play forever, so just force out some games without thinking about it, and after like 20-30 mins of playing, youl remember why you love to play. The problem is if you skip a day or two of laddering, it seems like a bit of a burdon, but again, dont think! just do it! GG GL
http://www.twitch.tv/rebufferingg
izgodlee
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada133 Posts
September 16 2011 02:23 GMT
#7
I know someone named FmP who suffers from this.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 42m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech84
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 6506
Leta 321
PianO 212
ToSsGirL 118
Killer 97
sorry 67
Larva 45
Barracks 28
yabsab 22
Noble 20
[ Show more ]
NotJumperer 7
League of Legends
JimRising 693
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King132
Other Games
summit1g9802
PiGStarcraft1347
WinterStarcraft380
Happy234
Sick100
RuFF_SC245
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick794
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH340
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1293
Upcoming Events
GSL
42m
herO vs Rogue
Maru vs Cure
Patches Events
5h 42m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
7h 42m
BSL
11h 42m
Bonyth vs Dewalt
OSC
16h 42m
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 8h
Replay Cast
1d 16h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
Maestros of the Game
3 days
Classic vs Lambo
Clem vs Maru
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Maestros of the Game
4 days
Serral vs Rogue
herO vs SHIN
Replay Cast
4 days
Maestros of the Game
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

KK 2v2 League Season 1
RSL Revival: Season 5
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
SCTL 2026 Spring
WardiTV Spring 2026
Maestros of the Game 2
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
2026 GSL S2
Murky Cup 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026

Upcoming

BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Heroes Pulsing #3
Heroes Pulsing #2
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.