I've noticed something about myself, so I'll share my experience:
Whenever I am under the influence of certain things, be it alcohol or others, I am able to become someone who is at least 500% more charismatic than my usual self. Of course, being high on things slows down my pure intellectual abilities, so I try my hardest to remain sober while finishing assignments, doing labs, etc.
Normally I'd just attribute this phenomenon to being more "sociable" while under the influence, but my situation is so striking and pervasive that it actually got me to thinking about the whole thing. I perform better talking to employers/co-workers, to parents, to friends, to my significant other, etc. while I am on something of my choice. This is not something that I just "feel" when I'm intoxicated with something, but something that I realize retrospectively based on results. Furthermore, I'd like to add that I'm not a terribly shy person, I mean I'm not cocky or anything and know the limits of personal sociability, but certain... chemicals make me into half of a Donald Trump.
I really do think certain, chemical enhancements, have the ability to make me a more successful and better person. Is this applicable to you? Has anything similar happened to you before? I'd like to hear your thoughts.
lol guys, it's not simply a matter of liquid courage, going up to a girl when under the influence to score because I'd be unable to sum up the courage normally.
This is, let me think of an example, me going to an interview fully fucked beyond my mind and nailing it (getting the job right away going out the door, with the interviewer/supervisor patting me on the back telling me what a great asset I'd be in addition to the company).
And you guys are limiting it to alcohol. Well... it's not. I'm talking about much harder things.
On August 18 2011 11:57 Ravencruiser wrote: lol guys, it's not simply a matter of liquid courage, going up to a girl when under the influence to score because I'd be unable to sum up the courage normally.
This is, let me think of an example, me going to an interview fully fucked beyond my mind and nailing it (getting the job right away going out the door, with the interviewer/supervisor patting me on the back telling me what a great asset I'd be in addition to the company).
And you guys are limiting it to alcohol. Well... it's not. I'm talking about much harder things.
so after taking mind-altering substances, your mind is altered and you are more confident?
damn, that looks just like what we've been trying to explain to you!
(what you should really do is work on your sober confidence, instead of just getting fucked up)
I've recently noticed that I think I'm a bit more fun to be with (in a party/social setting) when I have a little (not a lot) of alcohol in me. This is contrary to how I felt on college but whatever.
It depends 100% on your personality when you aren't under the influence. Everyone is different. For me, I am more relaxed and at ease it seems after 1-2 drinks.
Personally when I'm drunk, all the hangups I have that are residual or actually present as a result of my life, like being a little depressed or thinking ill of a particular physical feature, being a little reserved in telling a joke at of fear of backlash go away. I dont really become dumber- at all- until im basically unable to stand, before that I'm pretty much all there. I'm just more myself than I ordinarily can be, as funny and as free spirited as I ought to be.
I used to regularly post in a drug-related forum, and many people used all sorts of drugs and medicines to solve small problems like this. One poster once told about a certain medicine he used for presentations and other stressful public appearances.
I have only experienced this with alcohol, and it led to irregular results. Most the time I'm just louder and stupid so, meh. The other things I've sent to my body never really did anything that turned me into a charismatic person. And I will stay away from anything made from the pharmaceutical industry. No adderal, valium or any of that stuff.
In the end, charisma comes from self esteem, and it's not just about being the loud person in the room.
It might simply be a question of your happiness, if you feel happy you are alot nicer/more sociable and people will enjoy that; especially since you say you are not a very shy person I would imagine that would be the case. I know quite a few people who are extremely boring and not-fun to be with unless they are under influence in which case they become awesome; alot of people who are the other way around as well!
On August 18 2011 11:57 Ravencruiser wrote: lol guys, it's not simply a matter of liquid courage, going up to a girl when under the influence to score because I'd be unable to sum up the courage normally.
This is, let me think of an example, me going to an interview fully fucked beyond my mind and nailing it (getting the job right away going out the door, with the interviewer/supervisor patting me on the back telling me what a great asset I'd be in addition to the company).
And you guys are limiting it to alcohol. Well... it's not. I'm talking about much harder things.
so after taking mind-altering substances, your mind is altered and you are more confident?
damn, that looks just like what we've been trying to explain to you!
(what you should really do is work on your sober confidence, instead of just getting fucked up)
Okay I know the position you've taken and I'll try to explain this to you.
I am a confident person. I have a good job working for a finance company, I do well in school, I have a regular and close group of friends that I do shit with, and I have a loving girlfriend. I am fucking confident as I can be, sober. In terms of statistics, I'll put myself in at least the top tier of the personal confidence curve, no bragging intended.
With that said, let me restate; I am fucking DONALD TRUMP, owning shit up with pure charisma, when I'm fucked up. Confidence is completely irrelevant, I hope I make myself sufficiently clear.
Edit:
Thanks for the last few replies, I guess it's just a matter of my own personal happiness when I'm fucked up. I stop over-thinking issues, and just go in and do what I have to do a happy man, with good results. Thanks again^^
On August 18 2011 11:57 Ravencruiser wrote: lol guys, it's not simply a matter of liquid courage, going up to a girl when under the influence to score because I'd be unable to sum up the courage normally.
This is, let me think of an example, me going to an interview fully fucked beyond my mind and nailing it (getting the job right away going out the door, with the interviewer/supervisor patting me on the back telling me what a great asset I'd be in addition to the company).
And you guys are limiting it to alcohol. Well... it's not. I'm talking about much harder things.
so after taking mind-altering substances, your mind is altered and you are more confident?
damn, that looks just like what we've been trying to explain to you!
(what you should really do is work on your sober confidence, instead of just getting fucked up)
Okay I know the position you've taken and I'll try to explain this to you.
I am a confident person. I have a good job working for a finance company, I do well in school, I have a regular and close group of friends that I do shit with, and I have a loving girlfriend. I am fucking confident as I can be, sober. In terms of statistics, I'll put myself in at least the top tier of the personal confidence curve, no bragging intended.
With that said, let me restate; I am fucking DONALD TRUMP, owning shit up with pure charisma, when I'm fucked up. Confidence is completely irrelevant, I hope I make myself sufficiently clear.
On August 18 2011 11:57 Ravencruiser wrote: lol guys, it's not simply a matter of liquid courage, going up to a girl when under the influence to score because I'd be unable to sum up the courage normally.
This is, let me think of an example, me going to an interview fully fucked beyond my mind and nailing it (getting the job right away going out the door, with the interviewer/supervisor patting me on the back telling me what a great asset I'd be in addition to the company).
And you guys are limiting it to alcohol. Well... it's not. I'm talking about much harder things.
You're my hero.
Teach me your ways? How much of substance x do I have to take at time y before I have to do anything that requires me to rely on myself?
On August 18 2011 11:57 Ravencruiser wrote: lol guys, it's not simply a matter of liquid courage, going up to a girl when under the influence to score because I'd be unable to sum up the courage normally.
This is, let me think of an example, me going to an interview fully fucked beyond my mind and nailing it (getting the job right away going out the door, with the interviewer/supervisor patting me on the back telling me what a great asset I'd be in addition to the company).
And you guys are limiting it to alcohol. Well... it's not. I'm talking about much harder things.
You're my hero.
Teach me your ways? How much of substance x do I have to take at time y before I have to do anything that requires me to rely on myself?
Shed that sarcasm, and if you're actually interested in knowing, send me a PM.
Sometimes, shit happens for real sans trolling. Step out of your bubble.
On August 18 2011 11:57 Ravencruiser wrote: lol guys, it's not simply a matter of liquid courage, going up to a girl when under the influence to score because I'd be unable to sum up the courage normally.
This is, let me think of an example, me going to an interview fully fucked beyond my mind and nailing it (getting the job right away going out the door, with the interviewer/supervisor patting me on the back telling me what a great asset I'd be in addition to the company).
And you guys are limiting it to alcohol. Well... it's not. I'm talking about much harder things.
You're my hero.
Teach me your ways? How much of substance x do I have to take at time y before I have to do anything that requires me to rely on myself?
Shed that sarcasm, and if you're actually interested in knowing, send me a PM.
Sometimes, shit happens for real sans trolling. Step out of your bubble.
Yeah make sure you keep it in PM form because everyone on TL cares if you're using heroin. I think you get it twisted, no Boss ever pats an interviewee on the back telling you that you would be an asset to the company without using that as a play. He doesn't frankly know that you're going to be an asset to the company he is giving you confidence that you, seem to need.
I highly doubt things are the way you say they are. I would bet more likely than not you've already received backlash from someone or a few people in your life for your drug use. Now, your turning to this ever so elite community to justify and rationalize your actions. Get a grip pal it doesn't last long. Soon you will be at Caron Foundation, with a treatment plan, doing a 90 in 90.
On August 18 2011 11:57 Ravencruiser wrote: lol guys, it's not simply a matter of liquid courage, going up to a girl when under the influence to score because I'd be unable to sum up the courage normally.
This is, let me think of an example, me going to an interview fully fucked beyond my mind and nailing it (getting the job right away going out the door, with the interviewer/supervisor patting me on the back telling me what a great asset I'd be in addition to the company).
And you guys are limiting it to alcohol. Well... it's not. I'm talking about much harder things.
You're my hero.
Teach me your ways? How much of substance x do I have to take at time y before I have to do anything that requires me to rely on myself?
Shed that sarcasm, and if you're actually interested in knowing, send me a PM.
Sometimes, shit happens for real sans trolling. Step out of your bubble.
Yeah make sure you keep it in PM form because everyone on TL cares if you're using heroin. I think you get it twisted, no Boss ever pats an interviewee on the back telling you that you would be an asset to the company without using that as a play. He doesn't frankly know that you're going to be an asset to the company he is giving you confidence that you, seem to need.
I highly doubt things are the way you say they are. I would bet more likely than not you've already received backlash from someone or a few people in your life for your drug use. Now, your turning to this ever so elite community to justify and rationalize your actions. Get a grip pal it doesn't last long. Soon you will be at Caron Foundation, with a treatment plan, doing a 90 in 90.
You know, I'd just accept your view and move on.
But the fact of the matter is, I went into that interview with very low hopes (no confidence pun intended, all other interviewees had better marks than I did, and I'd say 4 of them beat me on experience/volunteering/past employment), but in the end I beat out the 5 other second interview candidates, purely because how amazing I performed during that interview.
I understand where you're coming from, but you're honestly assuming too much in the wrong direction.
And no, in case you were wondering, heroin is a TERRIBLE drug. I'd never go near that stuff ever again.
On August 18 2011 11:57 Ravencruiser wrote: lol guys, it's not simply a matter of liquid courage, going up to a girl when under the influence to score because I'd be unable to sum up the courage normally.
This is, let me think of an example, me going to an interview fully fucked beyond my mind and nailing it (getting the job right away going out the door, with the interviewer/supervisor patting me on the back telling me what a great asset I'd be in addition to the company).
And you guys are limiting it to alcohol. Well... it's not. I'm talking about much harder things.
You're my hero.
Teach me your ways? How much of substance x do I have to take at time y before I have to do anything that requires me to rely on myself?
Shed that sarcasm, and if you're actually interested in knowing, send me a PM.
Sometimes, shit happens for real sans trolling. Step out of your bubble.
Yeah make sure you keep it in PM form because everyone on TL cares if you're using heroin. I think you get it twisted, no Boss ever pats an interviewee on the back telling you that you would be an asset to the company without using that as a play. He doesn't frankly know that you're going to be an asset to the company he is giving you confidence that you, seem to need.
I highly doubt things are the way you say they are. I would bet more likely than not you've already received backlash from someone or a few people in your life for your drug use. Now, your turning to this ever so elite community to justify and rationalize your actions. Get a grip pal it doesn't last long. Soon you will be at Caron Foundation, with a treatment plan, doing a 90 in 90.
You know, I'd just accept your view and move on.
But the fact of the matter is, I went into that interview with very low hopes (no confidence pun intended, all other interviewees had better marks than I did, and I'd say 4 of them beat me on experience/volunteering/past employment), but in the end I beat out the 5 other second interview candidates, purely because how amazing I performed during that interview.
I understand where you're coming from, but you're honestly assuming too much in the wrong direction.
And no, in case you were wondering, heroin is a TERRIBLE drug. I'd never go near that stuff ever again.
I love the way you subtly notify us of your drug use yet you wouldn't exactly say what exactly the drug was that exerted your superiority to your interviewer.
By the sounds of it you have an inferiority complex, yet you try so hard to convey confidence. Speculation aside, if you use cocaine long enough you move past the point of the confident social butterfly into the guy who gets so spun you stare at the floor and your hands knowing that you didn't drop anything, but unable to turn your head. After long you will be out of your office chair in some shootin gallery carpet farmin for powder or stones.
On August 18 2011 11:57 Ravencruiser wrote: lol guys, it's not simply a matter of liquid courage, going up to a girl when under the influence to score because I'd be unable to sum up the courage normally.
This is, let me think of an example, me going to an interview fully fucked beyond my mind and nailing it (getting the job right away going out the door, with the interviewer/supervisor patting me on the back telling me what a great asset I'd be in addition to the company).
And you guys are limiting it to alcohol. Well... it's not. I'm talking about much harder things.
You're my hero.
Teach me your ways? How much of substance x do I have to take at time y before I have to do anything that requires me to rely on myself?
Shed that sarcasm, and if you're actually interested in knowing, send me a PM.
Sometimes, shit happens for real sans trolling. Step out of your bubble.
Yeah make sure you keep it in PM form because everyone on TL cares if you're using heroin. I think you get it twisted, no Boss ever pats an interviewee on the back telling you that you would be an asset to the company without using that as a play. He doesn't frankly know that you're going to be an asset to the company he is giving you confidence that you, seem to need.
I highly doubt things are the way you say they are. I would bet more likely than not you've already received backlash from someone or a few people in your life for your drug use. Now, your turning to this ever so elite community to justify and rationalize your actions. Get a grip pal it doesn't last long. Soon you will be at Caron Foundation, with a treatment plan, doing a 90 in 90.
You know, I'd just accept your view and move on.
But the fact of the matter is, I went into that interview with very low hopes (no confidence pun intended, all other interviewees had better marks than I did, and I'd say 4 of them beat me on experience/volunteering/past employment), but in the end I beat out the 5 other second interview candidates, purely because how amazing I performed during that interview.
I understand where you're coming from, but you're honestly assuming too much in the wrong direction.
And no, in case you were wondering, heroin is a TERRIBLE drug. I'd never go near that stuff ever again.
I love the way you subtly notify us of your drug use yet you wouldn't exactly say what exactly the drug was that exerted your superiority to your interviewer.
By the sounds of it you have an inferiority complex, yet you try so hard to convey confidence. Speculation aside, if you use cocaine long enough you move past the point of the confident social butterfly into the guy who gets so spun you stare at the floor and your hands knowing that you didn't drop anything, but unable to turn your head. After long you will be out of your office chair in some shootin gallery carpet farmin for powder or stones.
Hey good luck with the whole bid though.
To your ignorance, the lack of specificity is due to the avoidance of self-incrimination, in accordance with good sense and every other post I make.
Also, your knowledge of drugs is absolutely pitiful. I can safely assume that you've never done anything stronger than weed or alcohol, which explains your attitude and ignorance on the whole matter.
Haha your lack of specificity due to the avoidance of self-incrimination, but subtly mentioning you've used heroin in the past and denying that isn't anything "That Weak such as pot or alcohol" in your earlier posts. Also challenging my knowledge of drugs by stabbing at the idea that I've only ever used "weed" (lol weed) or alcohol.
Well if anyone was to get wind of this post I'm sure from the information you've given they would think whatever you're doing is definitely legal. Yeah, okay...
"Your lack of knowledge of drugs is absolutely pitiful"...The sad part is, I've probably spilled more drugs than you've ever used. I don't see where anything I've said would point you to believe that I have 0 knowledge. But hey everyone's is entitled to their own opinions. Right?
On August 18 2011 11:57 Ravencruiser wrote: lol guys, it's not simply a matter of liquid courage, going up to a girl when under the influence to score because I'd be unable to sum up the courage normally.
This is, let me think of an example, me going to an interview fully fucked beyond my mind and nailing it (getting the job right away going out the door, with the interviewer/supervisor patting me on the back telling me what a great asset I'd be in addition to the company).
And you guys are limiting it to alcohol. Well... it's not. I'm talking about much harder things.
You're my hero.
Teach me your ways? How much of substance x do I have to take at time y before I have to do anything that requires me to rely on myself?
Shed that sarcasm, and if you're actually interested in knowing, send me a PM.
Sometimes, shit happens for real sans trolling. Step out of your bubble.
Yeah make sure you keep it in PM form because everyone on TL cares if you're using heroin. I think you get it twisted, no Boss ever pats an interviewee on the back telling you that you would be an asset to the company without using that as a play. He doesn't frankly know that you're going to be an asset to the company he is giving you confidence that you, seem to need.
I highly doubt things are the way you say they are. I would bet more likely than not you've already received backlash from someone or a few people in your life for your drug use. Now, your turning to this ever so elite community to justify and rationalize your actions. Get a grip pal it doesn't last long. Soon you will be at Caron Foundation, with a treatment plan, doing a 90 in 90.
You know, I'd just accept your view and move on.
But the fact of the matter is, I went into that interview with very low hopes (no confidence pun intended, all other interviewees had better marks than I did, and I'd say 4 of them beat me on experience/volunteering/past employment), but in the end I beat out the 5 other second interview candidates, purely because how amazing I performed during that interview.
I understand where you're coming from, but you're honestly assuming too much in the wrong direction.
And no, in case you were wondering, heroin is a TERRIBLE drug. I'd never go near that stuff ever again.
What does it mean to have performed amazingly in an interview?
pshhhhh don't become reliant on shit dude. that's how people get into knee deep poop. by the way you praise it, it's like you found the elixir of life. i don't wana judge, but if you feel LESS confident when going into an interview sober than "under the influence" you should really examine if you're dependant or not...
On August 18 2011 11:57 Ravencruiser wrote: lol guys, it's not simply a matter of liquid courage, going up to a girl when under the influence to score because I'd be unable to sum up the courage normally.
This is, let me think of an example, me going to an interview fully fucked beyond my mind and nailing it (getting the job right away going out the door, with the interviewer/supervisor patting me on the back telling me what a great asset I'd be in addition to the company).
And you guys are limiting it to alcohol. Well... it's not. I'm talking about much harder things.
You're my hero.
Teach me your ways? How much of substance x do I have to take at time y before I have to do anything that requires me to rely on myself?
Shed that sarcasm, and if you're actually interested in knowing, send me a PM.
Sometimes, shit happens for real sans trolling. Step out of your bubble.
Yeah make sure you keep it in PM form because everyone on TL cares if you're using heroin. I think you get it twisted, no Boss ever pats an interviewee on the back telling you that you would be an asset to the company without using that as a play. He doesn't frankly know that you're going to be an asset to the company he is giving you confidence that you, seem to need.
I highly doubt things are the way you say they are. I would bet more likely than not you've already received backlash from someone or a few people in your life for your drug use. Now, your turning to this ever so elite community to justify and rationalize your actions. Get a grip pal it doesn't last long. Soon you will be at Caron Foundation, with a treatment plan, doing a 90 in 90.
You know, I'd just accept your view and move on.
But the fact of the matter is, I went into that interview with very low hopes (no confidence pun intended, all other interviewees had better marks than I did, and I'd say 4 of them beat me on experience/volunteering/past employment), but in the end I beat out the 5 other second interview candidates, purely because how amazing I performed during that interview.
I understand where you're coming from, but you're honestly assuming too much in the wrong direction.
And no, in case you were wondering, heroin is a TERRIBLE drug. I'd never go near that stuff ever again.
What does it mean to have performed amazingly in an interview?
By performed amazingly he means his impression of a man on drugs was performed to a near Oscar level standard as he questioned his potential employer about the choice of Unicorn wallpaper whilst doing summer-salts around the office.
On August 18 2011 12:05 Ravencruiser wrote: I am a confident person. I have a good job working for a finance company, I do well in school, I have a regular and close group of friends that I do shit with, and I have a loving girlfriend. I am fucking confident as I can be, sober. In terms of statistics, I'll put myself in at least the top tier of the personal confidence curve, no bragging intended.
With that said, let me restate; I am fucking DONALD TRUMP, owning shit up with pure charisma, when I'm fucked up. Confidence is completely irrelevant, I hope I make myself sufficiently clear.
You see, the reason you're getting the sarcasm, OP, is that if you were as baller as you state, you wouldn't have created this thread. DUCY?
On August 18 2011 13:34 inamorato wrote: Haha your lack of specificity due to the avoidance of self-incrimination, but subtly mentioning you've used heroin in the past and denying that isn't anything "That Weak such as pot or alcohol" in your earlier posts. Also challenging my knowledge of drugs by stabbing at the idea that I've only ever used "weed" (lol weed) or alcohol.
Well if anyone was to get wind of this post I'm sure from the information you've given they would think whatever you're doing is definitely legal. Yeah, okay...
"Your lack of knowledge of drugs is absolutely pitiful"...The sad part is, I've probably spilled more drugs than you've ever used. I don't see where anything I've said would point you to believe that I have 0 knowledge. But hey everyone's is entitled to their own opinions. Right?
Nothing tells that what he used was cocaine, he could've used kratom, weed, small doses of MDA, or maybe even small doses of psychedelics given the specfic effects on the great variety of users - I even once read about a man who uses liquid Salvia burned on rolling paper to relax.
Your aggressive attitude is sterile and uncalled for. If you are angry I suggest you take a walk instead of trying to create an internet hate-debate.
And if you consider that he displays such a hateful and miserable lack of self-esteem, well it just looked that you were trying to get the necessary credibility to take the role of the "knows-it-all" person in the debate:
- by laughing at weed usage (really? One of the most common, harmless and respected drugs, the center of many subcultures, the product of a long shamanistic tradition, etc...?) (wait I'm sorry but who uses this kind of rhethoric strategies once they've hit puberty? "Lol alcohol, man once I took COCAINE, I'm a grown man, I got pubes!") - by stating that you're totally a drug baller and have had over 9000 different drugs, again, how old are you to express such a brilliant argumentation?
All in all I think that it is quite IRONIC that a nerd community hates on someone because they consider that this person is hiding his low self-esteem. Low self-esteem is actually the N°1 reason kids become nerds. So chances are you're bashing someone who's maybe even better than you are.
On August 18 2011 13:34 inamorato wrote: Haha your lack of specificity due to the avoidance of self-incrimination, but subtly mentioning you've used heroin in the past and denying that isn't anything "That Weak such as pot or alcohol" in your earlier posts. Also challenging my knowledge of drugs by stabbing at the idea that I've only ever used "weed" (lol weed) or alcohol.
Well if anyone was to get wind of this post I'm sure from the information you've given they would think whatever you're doing is definitely legal. Yeah, okay...
"Your lack of knowledge of drugs is absolutely pitiful"...The sad part is, I've probably spilled more drugs than you've ever used. I don't see where anything I've said would point you to believe that I have 0 knowledge. But hey everyone's is entitled to their own opinions. Right?
Nothing tells that what he used was cocaine, he could've used kratom, weed, small doses of MDA, or maybe even small doses of psychedelics given the specfic effects on the great variety of users - I even once read about a man who uses liquid Salvia burned on rolling paper to relax.
Your aggressive attitude is sterile and uncalled for. If you are angry I suggest you take a walk instead of trying to create an internet hate-debate.
And if you consider that he displays such a hateful and miserable lack of self-esteem, well it just looked that you were trying to get the necessary credibility to take the role of the "knows-it-all" person in the debate:
- by laughing at weed usage (really? One of the most common, harmless and respected drugs, the center of many subcultures, the product of a long shamanistic tradition, etc...?) (wait I'm sorry but who uses this kind of rhethoric strategies once they've hit puberty? "Lol alcohol, man once I took COCAINE, I'm a grown man, I got pubes!") - by stating that you're totally a drug baller and have had over 9000 different drugs, again, how old are you to express such a brilliant argumentation?
All in all I think that it is quite IRONIC that a nerd community hates on someone because they consider that this person is hiding his low self-esteem. Low self-esteem is actually the N°1 reason kids become nerds. So chances are you're bashing someone who's maybe even better than you are.
Pretty sure you need to read again buddy.
Kratom? MDA? Salvia? Do you even know what you are suggesting? Kratom is a drug used for opiate detox, MDA or Sass, isn't a drug that anyone can get through an interview on. AND SALVIA? It's is an extreme psychedelic for about 5 minutes...I'm almost 100% certain that we can disclude all of these. Also he already stated that it isn't pot, alcohol, and subtly denied heroin. Also the way he talked about heroin's severity would make me disclude most opiates. But you probably didn't know this because you haven't followed the entire thread.
Now that we've established that, I would say that based on his feelings of confidence and charisma I would suggest that it is probably cocaine or maybe an amphetamine.
I speculated an inferiority complex with an ego(I'm sure since you find many things ironic in my previous post this will probably make your head implode). Primarily I'm just trying to get a response out of him that would either confirm or deny my thoughts.
I also don't ever recall laughing at "weed usage". I find that weed is a word that is mostly used by people who have very light experience with drugs, and overall it just sounds funny. That is also why I suggested myself laughing.
Then you derail into some ridiculous statement about puberty, which has nothing to do with the thread. Followed by suggesting that I've claimed use of over 9000 drugs which, again, is no where to be found. You also make sweeping fallacies, claiming that TL is a nerd community who is putting down a young man with a low self-esteem. Which again your wrong. I'm pretty sure everyone is giving negative responses due to his arrogant tone but that is just my theory.
Aside from that, I made statements to establish credibility. I have no issue with the OP. I understand. If you would maybe take a deeper look into ALL of the posts in this thread maybe you too, would understand. But then again maybe not.
On August 18 2011 13:21 inamorato wrote: I love the way you subtly notify us of your drug use yet you wouldn't exactly say what exactly the drug was that exerted your superiority to your interviewer.
By the sounds of it you have an inferiority complex, yet you try so hard to convey confidence. Speculation aside, if you use cocaine long enough you move past the point of the confident social butterfly into the guy who gets so spun you stare at the floor and your hands knowing that you didn't drop anything, but unable to turn your head. After long you will be out of your office chair in some shootin gallery carpet farmin for powder or stones.
Hey good luck with the whole bid though.
On August 18 2011 13:28 Ravencruiser wrote: To your ignorance, the lack of specificity is due to the avoidance of self-incrimination, in accordance with good sense and every other post I make.
Also, your knowledge of drugs is absolutely pitiful. I can safely assume that you've never done anything stronger than weed or alcohol, which explains your attitude and ignorance on the whole matter.
Thanks for posting and good luck to you too.
On August 18 2011 13:34 inamorato wrote: Haha your lack of specificity due to the avoidance of self-incrimination, but subtly mentioning you've used heroin in the past and denying that isn't anything "That Weak such as pot or alcohol" in your earlier posts. Also challenging my knowledge of drugs by stabbing at the idea that I've only ever used "weed" (lol weed) or alcohol.
Well if anyone was to get wind of this post I'm sure from the information you've given they would think whatever you're doing is definitely legal. Yeah, okay...
"Your lack of knowledge of drugs is absolutely pitiful"...The sad part is, I've probably spilled more drugs than you've ever used. I don't see where anything I've said would point you to believe that I have 0 knowledge. But hey everyone's is entitled to their own opinions. Right?
LOL I love this site....what other gaming site in the world would you find two guys arguing about who did more drugs. ROFL....Laughed my ass off at this banter
I speculated an inferiority complex with an ego(I'm sure since you find many things ironic in my previous post this will probably make your head implode). Primarily I'm just trying to get a response out of him that would either confirm or deny my thoughts.
I speculated an inferiority complex with an ego(I'm sure since you find many things ironic in my previous post this will probably make your head implode). Primarily I'm just trying to get a response out of him that would either confirm or deny my thoughts.
You mean an ego with an inferiority complex?
To put it in simpler terms, a feeling of inferiority with a sense of pride.
Stimulants and/or small amounts of alcohol can do that, but generally alcohol is a pretty shit tier drug. I don't think hardcore depressants will help anyone suddenly be more charismatic.
On August 18 2011 11:41 Ravencruiser wrote: I've noticed something about myself, so I'll share my experience:
Whenever I am under the influence of certain things, be it alcohol or others, I am able to become someone who is at least 500% more charismatic than my usual self. Of course, being high on things slows down my pure intellectual abilities, so I try my hardest to remain sober while finishing assignments, doing labs, etc.
Normally I'd just attribute this phenomenon to being more "sociable" while under the influence, but my situation is so striking and pervasive that it actually got me to thinking about the whole thing. I perform better talking to employers/co-workers, to parents, to friends, to my significant other, etc. while I am on something of my choice. This is not something that I just "feel" when I'm intoxicated with something, but something that I realize retrospectively based on results. Furthermore, I'd like to add that I'm not a terribly shy person, I mean I'm not cocky or anything and know the limits of personal sociability, but certain... chemicals make me into half of a Donald Trump.
I really do think certain, chemical enhancements, have the ability to make me a more successful and better person. Is this applicable to you? Has anything similar happened to you before? I'd like to hear your thoughts.
Cheers.
Alcohol and other drugs just remove any inhibitions you have normally, mostly by just making sure that you don't actually think before you say anything.
That said, be warned - you may think you're becoming more charismatic, but you may in fact just be more talkative, but also more foolish. Never trust yourself too much when you're drunk.
Very uncharasmatic post. I guess more drugs is needed in order to make this work .... -.-
I think you can still act the same way sober, but instead of thinking that "yeah I'm awesome" you will probably be thinking "wtf am I doing", and probably rightly so.
On August 19 2011 01:18 Sablar wrote: I think you can still act the same way sober, but instead of thinking that "yeah I'm awesome" you will probably be thinking "wtf am I doing", and probably rightly so.
I agree with this. Just because you think you're being more charismatic doesn't mean that you actually are.
In response to the OP I think I am pretty charismatic when I am being myself and alcohol makes me comfortable quicker so that I can be myself quicker. It's actually hard to completely be myself with new people right away because I am pretty weird (but not really in a bad way).
If I ever go out on a date with a girl I am definitely going to have to drink beforehand, I think I would be way too intimidated by the whole situation otherwise.
Not a lot, just like a shot or two.
An interview would be way different though. That's serious time, just biznezz.
On August 18 2011 15:38 inamorato wrote: Kratom? MDA? Salvia? Do you even know what you are suggesting? Kratom is a drug used for opiate detox, MDA or Sass, isn't a drug that anyone can get through an interview on. AND SALVIA? It's is an extreme psychedelic for about 5 minutes...I'm almost 100% certain that we can disclude all of these. Also he already stated that it isn't pot, alcohol, and subtly denied heroin. Also the way he talked about heroin's severity would make me disclude most opiates. But you probably didn't know this because you haven't followed the entire thread.
Oh how cute, you just checked wikipedia! Kratom has actually had an effect similar to coffee for the people around me who tried it, and low doses of Salvia barely affect the user while still sometimes creating a lingering or euphoric mood for a bit less than an hour. Experimenting with a 5x potency never took me to the "extreme high" kids are looking for nowadays. Salvia is strong in strong doses, period. I don't even know where you take the 5 minutes from as my trips have lasted from 2 to 15 minutes and this seems to be the norm but then again, wikipedia knowledge isn't perfect. About MDA, again, small doses are known to generate euphoria and empathy witout it being noticeable. So in the end it could be anything as there are as many reactions as there are drugs. Quit the inspector gadget act and give us a break.
On August 18 2011 15:38 inamorato wrote: Now that we've established that, I would say that based on his feelings of confidence and charisma I would suggest that it is probably cocaine or maybe an amphetamine.
Whatever, who gives a damn except for you?
On August 18 2011 15:38 inamorato wrote: I speculated an inferiority complex with an ego(I'm sure since you find many things ironic in my previous post this will probably make your head implode). Primarily I'm just trying to get a response out of him that would either confirm or deny my thoughts.
Again, who gives a f***?
On August 18 2011 15:38 inamorato wrote: I also don't ever recall laughing at "weed usage". I find that weed is a word that is mostly used by people who have very light experience with drugs, and overall it just sounds funny. That is also why I suggested myself laughing.
Then you derail into some ridiculous statement about puberty, which has nothing to do with the thread. Followed by suggesting that I've claimed use of over 9000 drugs which, again, is no where to be found..
"Also challenging my knowledge of drugs by stabbing at the idea that I've only ever used "weed" (lol weed) or alcohol."
"The sad part is, I've probably spilled more drugs than you've ever used. I don't see where anything I've said would point you to believe that I have 0 knowledge. But hey everyone's is entitled to their own opinions. Right?"
Oh man, you're so harcore, having spilled so many drugs, only noobs say "weed". And you felt the need to use the slang "Sass" just to gain some much needed credibility. "MDA, or Sass" What was the need to add the slang term? Stop, just stop.
Well im assuming its coke u're talking about.. Any other chemical substance and i dont think u'd be functioning in those situations u're describing.. You do need to realize that pretty much everything u do while influenced by coke its greatly "distorted", meaning that when you're high you conceive everything way different than when you're sober. This combined with the extra confidence boost u get by doing coke means that everything that happens around you is much more intense and emotional than it'd otherwise be, and that makes you feel like a completely different person.
From my experience, opiates can be amazing for confidence. I've never tried valium, but for 20 days I was popping 3-4 oxy a day. One every couple of hours created a feeling of euphoria as if anything I was about to do would be fun times. So if it wasn't heroine that you were on, was it synthetic heroine? lol.
I always make a ton of friends when I'm high. I talk more, and I'm 'funnier' and 'wittier' I guess. When I'm drunk, I'm 'funnier' because my thinking gets so simplistic, so guys find it funny when I say random dumb shit. So maybe for me, charisma would be talking more I guess?
Hey man, thanks for the "downward spiral" heads up, but honestly I was just wondering if anyone else had their social performance enhanced by various chemicals, there was no need for you to come in here and start playing the oh-I've-been-through-this black knight either.
You're proud of your sobriety and I congratulate you on that, but I'm actually proud of the way I can take control and utilize drugs to get ahead in life; very few people have the amount of self-control that I do. I've been an occasional user for more than 5 years now, and my pride comes from staying an occasional user because I know and have seen the fucked up path that excessive use leads to (that you've been through). I keep a strict routine/schedule/substance cycle of about 3-4 things that I have on rotation for tolerance and dependence control, meaning I do not develop an addiction or even dependence and I do not build up a tolerance to anything that I take. As a last line of "safety" if you will, twice a year (every 5 months) I take a break from everything, remaining completely sober barring the monthly drinks with friends.
I've already stated 2 pages ago that I realized the reason for my social boost is simply happiness, and as someone who has taken many of the euphoric substances you should know exactly what I mean; NOTHING compares to the euphoric enhancements that certain chemicals bring you, not even close. Some would rebut by telling a user to go skydiving, find higher meaning in life through art, have sex, etc., but that argument is irrelevant because the way I feel about it, applicable to me, "taking drugs" isn't an activity by itself but rather an enhancement one uses to elevate the aforementioned activities. Sex, gaming, traveling, etc. are just light-years better while chemically enhanced there's no denying that.
No one is truly happy and completely worry-free, there's always something that's worrisome and bothers even the most successful and happiest people on earth. The drugs elevates you to a state of mind of total contentment, focus and insights, thus enhancing one's ability to successfully interact with others.
Drug use avoids reality. When coming back to reality without the influence of drugs, it makes it 1000 times more severe. I agree that drug use makes everything that much better. But without it, it makes everything that much worse. If you believe the ups outweigh the downs then that's great. Drugs, in the long run didn't work for me. If they didn't I would have never engaged in this discussion with the stance that I had taken.
First an foremost, nothing would make me happier than to use drugs to enhance my feelings without the repercussions. Unfortunately, the repercussions are what make me evaluate both sides of the playing field. For me as much as I would give, and want for them to work without consequence it hasn't worked. For you that may very well be a different story, and if it is I'm happy for you.
For me the best I have been able to come to is suboxone treatment. Where I don't feel the euphoric feelings but it removes nearly all withdrawal symptoms, and cravings to use. Its the best medium I have been able to find. And so far it seems to be the most successful.
EPT
![[image loading]](http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_-LrDvbJFOvw/THh__dffoCI/AAAAAAAAAOQ/h0UTBoaTDys/s400/BigBangTheoryRajesh_Koothrappali.jpg)
