This is a short blog because it's just a concern I have.
As you may know, my relationship with my dentist is relatively poor.
I don't like them and the amount of time it takes to clean my teeth or perform the surgeries. I'm not going to say why I have such poor teeth or their condition (actually I will probably in the end), but let's just say it's been a year or two since I last saw my dentist and now I'm paying the piper.
It's usually a dark pit with the dentist and my teeth. Each time I go, the work they need to do to my teeth is more and more severe. This isn't due to lack of brushing, but rather because I consume so many acidic stuff (I've stopped eating candy for two years now) and the effects wear my teeth down or accelerate its durability/erode my teeth.
I've had several cavities before and at first glance you wouldn't know and I'm not going to boast the numbers.
But right now, my teeth have hit a new low and wanted to know from people who've experienced this, what the dentist will do to my teeth.
I'm going for a cleaning in September, but they will see two major issues with my teeth (molar and the one before it/the cutting food tooth).
1. One of my teeth has a blatant hole in it. You can see that it's starting to rot from the inside or something. The hole hasn't gotten bigger since its inception nor do I feel any pain or sensitivity about it as I usually would with my smaller potential cavities (or holes that near nerves).
2. The bigger issue is my molar that has completely deteriorated. Half of it still stands, the other half has worn down to nothing or so and there's blackness at the bottom. Dead nerves perhaps and I should have saw a dentist before-hand.
Don't ask me why I didn't see them before, etc. etc. I'm not looking to be guilt-tripped and there are various reasons, poor and valid ones, that have delayed the whole thing.
I'm just looking to know what will they do to my teeth? Is it a lengthy process? Are they going to pull it out? Crown it (that makes it gold and stuff, right?, ugh).
Let me know please. So far, they've numb my mouth before and added a gel and reshaped some of my teeth. I think that's what they did.
I'll take some pictures if needed.
Thanks a lot, I'm just looking for my calms to be silenced or to prepare myself for the worst.
Take some pictures. It's hard to tell what work needs to be done if we can't see what the problem is. It sounds like they're going to have to remove your molar from the sounds of it. Doesn't sound very healthy at all
On August 04 2011 09:37 KonohaFlash wrote: Take some pictures. It's hard to tell what work needs to be done if we can't see what the problem is. It sounds like they're going to have to remove your molar from the sounds of it. Doesn't sound very healthy at all
Okay, I exaggerated. I took another gander of my mother and its sever, but it's not half of my tooth. Let me get some fuzzy bad pictures.
Usually they will give you a shot (it's inevitable) after rubbing some numbing gel on your gums. Then, they will drill away the stuff that is rotted, this gets rid of any possible bacteria/infection/grit/ whatever so they have a nice place to do a filling. Once the filling is in place they will use UV light to cure it really fast and you are as good as new.
As for your other tooth, depending on how bad it is, you will likely get a crown in place. I had filling in baby teeth but no idea what a crown feels like.
Also, if you don't already, use mouthwash. The stuff is amazing and will really help prevent cavities, my dentist noticed an incredible difference before and after I used it.
They're pretty terrible, but that black spot is essentially the tooth's bad spot. The other four "orangey" spots you see are potential cavities forming or the deterioration of the tooth.
1. See a dentist 2. Stop eating sugar 3. Stop drinking sugar (sodas, juices, etc.) 4. Drink some alcohol and swish around in your mouth.... alcohol is natural anti-septic.
On August 04 2011 10:16 eshlow wrote: 1. See a dentist 2. Stop eating sugar 3. Stop drinking sugar (sodas, juices, etc.) 4. Drink some alcohol and swish around in your mouth.... alcohol is natural anti-septic.
None of these are what I am talking about. It's very difficult giving advice or help when you don't read the entire topic.
I'm just looking to know what will they do to my teeth? Is it a lengthy process? Are they going to pull it out? Crown it (that makes it gold and stuff, right?, ugh).
I don't know. With only partial reading (I have cavities and the above quote), you can see what I am asking for or what kind of advice I need.
If you read further, you can see everything he says is a complete disregard to what I wrote .__.
On August 04 2011 10:16 eshlow wrote: 1. See a dentist 2. Stop eating sugar 3. Stop drinking sugar (sodas, juices, etc.) 4. Drink some alcohol and swish around in your mouth.... alcohol is natural anti-septic.
None of these are what I am talking about. It's very difficult giving advice or help when you don't read the entire topic.
It's very disrespectful.
Gonna drill it, if not root canal it.
Likely won't be painful if you're not feeling pain, but has the potential to be.
1. One of my teeth has a blatant hole in it. You can see that it's starting to rot from the inside or something. The hole hasn't gotten bigger since its inception nor do I feel any pain or sensitivity about it as I usually would with my smaller potential cavities (or holes that near nerves).
2. The bigger issue is my molar that has completely deteriorated. Half of it still stands, the other half has worn down to nothing or so and there's blackness at the bottom. Dead nerves perhaps and I should have saw a dentist before-hand.
dentist will take x-rays to get an idea of depth of tooth decay
1. you should just need a filling. if you don't feel any pain or sensitivity, the decay probably is still in the enamel and hasn't reached the dentin. silver amalgam fillings are cheaper and last longer but the dentist will remove more healthy tooth material to put in a silver amalgam filling.
composite fillings (white) are more expensive and don't last as long as silver amalgam fillings but doesn't need as much healthy tooth material removed to be put in.
2. if your molar is in as bad a state as you say, then you might need a crown. it's completely up to what the dentist sees in the x-ray and visually of the tooth.
ideally, you should want a filling done because if crown work is done on a tooth with a healthy root pulp, there is potential that the trauma from the crown work can be too much for the root pulp to take and kill it and then the dentist would have to perform a root canal and put in a new crown.
if you're not feeling any type of tooth ache from the molar, you should not need a root canal. the dentist may still give you a warning that a root canal might need to be performed if the decay appears near the root chamber though.
I went about 10 years without seeing the dentist and got absolutely owned for it. I had to have 1 tooth removed and developed an abscess with that tooth. I've had 6 old fillings replaced because they've all developed some sort of decay under them (fillings break down over time) and will have my 7th and final old filling replaced this upcoming Friday. I've also had 2-3 new fillings done. all this work has taken place over the past 3-4 months.
I've learned my lesson. always go see the dentist every 6 months. just because your teeth don't hurt doesn't mean they are not fucked up.
my diet has changed too. I basically just drink water or milk now and avoid drinking anything sugary. I can't eat anything that is too chewy or requires a decent amount of bite force because I have deep and large fillings.
if I eat anything that is too chewy, then I risk putting too much pressure on my root and producing a tooth ache from an irritated pulp.
if I eat anything that requires a decent amount of bite force, then I risk a root pulp toothache and cracking my teeth because there isn't enough tooth structure to support the force of the bite.
I hate brushing my tongue. All I can taste during breakfast is toothpaste and waking up pisses me off enough that I don't need another reason. I just stick to mouth wash for that.
Hell, half the time I don't wake up at home I just stick with mouth wash. My teeth definitely aren't in any way attractive but they aren't falling out. Oh wells can't have everything.
I don't know much about orthodontics but I imagine you can expect some kind of procedure to remove the plaque or whatever has grown on your molar. I doubt it's a cluster of dead nerves.. as the picture wasn't taken with a microscope.
But yeah, it'll suck but you'll probably get opiates. And that's a awesome silver lining.
On August 04 2011 10:16 eshlow wrote: 1. See a dentist 2. Stop eating sugar 3. Stop drinking sugar (sodas, juices, etc.) 4. Drink some alcohol and swish around in your mouth.... alcohol is natural anti-septic.
None of these are what I am talking about. It's very difficult giving advice or help when you don't read the entire topic.
It's very disrespectful.
Gonna drill it, if not root canal it.
Likely won't be painful if you're not feeling pain, but has the potential to be.
Thanks! I don't think it'll be painful since they numb the mouth.
Thanks a lot for coming back and contributing more, I really appreciate it!
Sucks... I don't know how I'm so lucky with my teeth - I used to brush only once a day, in the morning, and ate a lot of acidic food and never had a cavity on my "real" teeth.
However my brother did hit me in the face with a heavy flashlight a while ago, cracking one of my front teeth in a half diagonally. Having it repaired with plastic is quite expensive too. Also, dead nerves are better than live ones, seriously =(...
I went to the dentist after 2 years once, they found 3 major cavities and about 12 smaller just start off cavities, needless to say i bought a electric tooth brush and mouth wash the next day. Depending on the amount of work it's usually broken into 2-3 ish hour sessions from my experience they just dont fuck up your whole mouth at once usually doing it in sections. The cavity can just be filled they might also want to scape your teeth below the gum line to remove any bacteria and shiz then shoot you fool of antiseptic usually marked as a deep cleaning where they numb you then clean under your gum line so you bleed out like a mofo for the next couple hours then saying you need to floss regularly which i put at once a day at night before i go to bed. If you just have a plain dead tooth they probably will extract it and then you can replace it with like a vernier or something.
On August 04 2011 10:16 eshlow wrote: 1. See a dentist 2. Stop eating sugar 3. Stop drinking sugar (sodas, juices, etc.) 4. Drink some alcohol and swish around in your mouth.... alcohol is natural anti-septic.
None of these are what I am talking about. It's very difficult giving advice or help when you don't read the entire topic.
It's very disrespectful.
Gonna drill it, if not root canal it.
Likely won't be painful if you're not feeling pain, but has the potential to be.
Thanks! I don't think it'll be painful since they numb the mouth.
Thanks a lot for coming back and contributing more, I really appreciate it!
It's not painful but you can tell someone is rummaging around in your mouth. Also i always hated the water although its to prevent them from ripping skin makes me feel like im drowning for an hourr.
On August 04 2011 09:30 Torte de Lini wrote: 1. One of my teeth has a blatant hole in it. You can see that it's starting to rot from the inside or something. The hole hasn't gotten bigger since its inception nor do I feel any pain or sensitivity about it as I usually would with my smaller potential cavities (or holes that near nerves).
2. The bigger issue is my molar that has completely deteriorated. Half of it still stands, the other half has worn down to nothing or so and there's blackness at the bottom. Dead nerves perhaps and I should have saw a dentist before-hand.
I wouldn't doubt the possibility of a root canal [drilling into the tooth to pull out a dead nerve to prevent nerve infection or something among those lines]. If they can save the tooth, they can just fill in where they drilled [or the hole].
From experience, my root canal took about an hour [wasn't from a rotting tooth; I was elbowed in the mouth] and it was a relatively easy process. Just hope the nerve can be easily removed if you need to get a root canal ^-^v
1. One of my teeth has a blatant hole in it. You can see that it's starting to rot from the inside or something. The hole hasn't gotten bigger since its inception nor do I feel any pain or sensitivity about it as I usually would with my smaller potential cavities (or holes that near nerves).
2. The bigger issue is my molar that has completely deteriorated. Half of it still stands, the other half has worn down to nothing or so and there's blackness at the bottom. Dead nerves perhaps and I should have saw a dentist before-hand.
dentist will take x-rays to get an idea of depth of tooth decay
1. you should just need a filling. if you don't feel any pain or sensitivity, the decay probably is still in the enamel and hasn't reached the dentin. silver amalgam fillings are cheaper and last longer but the dentist will remove more healthy tooth material to put in a silver amalgam filling.
composite fillings (white) are more expensive and don't last as long as silver amalgam fillings but doesn't need as much healthy tooth material removed to be put in.
2. if your molar is in as bad a state as you say, then you might need a crown. it's completely up to what the dentist sees in the x-ray and visually of the tooth.
ideally, you should want a filling done because if crown work is done on a tooth with a healthy root pulp, there is potential that the trauma from the crown work can be too much for the root pulp to take and kill it and then the dentist would have to perform a root canal and put in a new crown.
if you're not feeling any type of tooth ache from the molar, you should not need a root canal. the dentist may still give you a warning that a root canal might need to be performed if the decay appears near the root chamber though.
I went about 10 years without seeing the dentist and got absolutely owned for it. I had to have 1 tooth removed and developed an abscess with that tooth. I've had 6 old fillings replaced because they've all developed some sort of decay under them (fillings break down over time) and will have my 7th and final old filling replaced this upcoming Friday. I've also had 2-3 new fillings done. all this work has taken place over the past 3-4 months.
I've learned my lesson. always go see the dentist every 6 months. just because your teeth don't hurt doesn't mean they are not fucked up.
my diet has changed too. I basically just drink water or milk now and avoid drinking anything sugary. I can't eat anything that is too chewy or requires a decent amount of bite force because I have deep and large fillings.
if I eat anything that is too chewy, then I risk putting too much pressure on my root and producing a tooth ache from an irritated pulp.
if I eat anything that requires a decent amount of bite force, then I risk a root pulp toothache and cracking my teeth because there isn't enough tooth structure to support the force of the bite.
Holy shit, my savior!
1. Will I get a choice between silver or white? I thought these were permanent and not something that needs replacing every so often @_@
2. Fuck, a root canal? Sounds fucking serious. This all sounds very lengthy and difficult. Makes me want to just suffer the consequences, but I guess it's an obligation.
I don't feel any pain, I have to try really hard to actually get that nerve sensation of pain. I know what it is, I've felt it before, but no pain in here at all. Will I be given choices or preference? They one time try to advocate getting my wisdom teeth pulled but they never really were serious about it and I felt they were trying to extort from me.
As for your anecdote. That's really enlightening. I don't drink alcohol, so I just drink a lot of sugar or ice cream. It's to cope with my lack of sugar from when I used to eat a lot of candy. I'm trying to recede from it, but I'm kind of hooked on sugar in the sense that I have trouble functioning properly without the intake and I get either light-headed or dizzy/very hungry.
Right now, I can't eat thick steaks because it makes my lips very irritable and then I bite on them, so I avoid thick steaks and only very thin ones. Other than that, I'm a pasta kind of guy.
On August 04 2011 10:27 Probe1 wrote: I hate brushing my tongue. All I can taste during breakfast is toothpaste and waking up pisses me off enough that I don't need another reason. I just stick to mouth wash for that.
Hell, half the time I don't wake up at home I just stick with mouth wash. My teeth definitely aren't in any way attractive but they aren't falling out. Oh wells can't have everything.
I don't know much about orthodontics but I imagine you can expect some kind of procedure to remove the plaque or whatever has grown on your molar. I doubt it's a cluster of dead nerves.. as the picture wasn't taken with a microscope.
But yeah, it'll suck but you'll probably get opiates. And that's a awesome silver lining.
I actually hated the taste of mint until I was 19. I still usually only buy kid's toothpaste because I like the flavor and I don't feel a slight burning sensation.
I brush my teeth two to three times a day, but I wish there was the convenience of brushing my teeth next to whatever I'm doing. I'm thinking of just having a toothpaste, bowl and toothbrush near my desk so I can brush whenever I eat something acidic.
On August 04 2011 10:27 Djzapz wrote: Sucks... I don't know how I'm so lucky with my teeth - I used to brush only once a day, in the morning, and ate a lot of acidic food and never had a cavity on my "real" teeth.
However my brother did hit me in the face with a heavy flashlight a while ago, cracking one of my front teeth in a half diagonally. Having it repaired with plastic is quite expensive too. Also, dead nerves are better than live ones, seriously =(...
Hurts a lot!
I had an asshole charge at me when we were playing football. I also hit my bottom jaw to my knee and my top two front teeth jammed right into my lip, gushing blood.
Brutal~
On August 04 2011 10:29 semantics wrote: I went to the dentist after 2 years once, they found 3 major cavities and about 12 smaller just start off cavities, needless to say i bought a electric tooth brush and mouth wash the next day. Depending on the amount of work it's usually broken into 2-3 ish hour sessions from my experience they just dont fuck up your whole mouth at once usually doing it in sections. The cavity can just be filled they might also want to scape your teeth below the gum line to remove any bacteria and shiz then shoot you fool of antiseptic usually marked as a deep cleaning where they numb you then clean under your gum line so you bleed out like a mofo for the next couple hours then saying you need to floss regularly which i put at once a day at night before i go to bed. If you just have a plain dead tooth they probably will extract it and then you can replace it with like a vernier or something.
On August 04 2011 10:16 eshlow wrote: 1. See a dentist 2. Stop eating sugar 3. Stop drinking sugar (sodas, juices, etc.) 4. Drink some alcohol and swish around in your mouth.... alcohol is natural anti-septic.
None of these are what I am talking about. It's very difficult giving advice or help when you don't read the entire topic.
It's very disrespectful.
Gonna drill it, if not root canal it.
Likely won't be painful if you're not feeling pain, but has the potential to be.
Thanks! I don't think it'll be painful since they numb the mouth.
Thanks a lot for coming back and contributing more, I really appreciate it!
It's not painful but you can tell someone is rummaging around in your mouth. Also i always hated the water although its to prevent them from ripping skin makes me feel like im drowning for an hourr.
It was actually 4-5 hours and they did all the sections (it was 12 cavities), because at the time, my mother didn't want to do multiple trips. I wouldn't be so bothered about the trips if they asked me if I'm brushing properly and then they show me how to do it + floss. It's protocol and it's also because of my history, but I just want to go in, do the stuff and get out. I travel an hour to the place everytime I go and it's a huge chunk of my day that I need for business and school, so being there isn't a pleasantry.
Plus I have to brush up on my french everytime I go, which I fucking despise.
I don't mind the water, I hate the vacuum thing. They either do it completely wrong and miss half the stuff or the thing goes practically down my throat where I choke.
On August 04 2011 09:30 Torte de Lini wrote: 1. One of my teeth has a blatant hole in it. You can see that it's starting to rot from the inside or something. The hole hasn't gotten bigger since its inception nor do I feel any pain or sensitivity about it as I usually would with my smaller potential cavities (or holes that near nerves).
2. The bigger issue is my molar that has completely deteriorated. Half of it still stands, the other half has worn down to nothing or so and there's blackness at the bottom. Dead nerves perhaps and I should have saw a dentist before-hand.
I wouldn't doubt the possibility of a root canal [drilling into the tooth to pull out a dead nerve to prevent nerve infection or something among those lines]. If they can save the tooth, they can just fill in where they drilled [or the hole].
From experience, my root canal took about an hour [wasn't from a rotting tooth; I was elbowed in the mouth] and it was a relatively easy process. Just hope the nerve can be easily removed if you need to get a root canal ^-^v
I just hate having numb mouth because there's always a part that itches like hell and you can never reach it.
A root canal sounds serious though, might youtube the process. LAst time I had blue stuff go in me and it felt like they were sculpting my teeth with a blade.
The last time I went to the dentist to get a twisted tooth fixed, the stupid nub pressed the syringe before it was in my gum and got the numbing goodness all down my throat and tongue.
On August 04 2011 10:50 Torenhire wrote: The last time I went to the dentist to get a twisted tooth fixed, the stupid nub pressed the syringe before it was in my gum and got the numbing goodness all down my throat and tongue.
I was all like HURRRRJGGHGHLLLLL all dayyyy TT
OH FUCK
I KNOW THAT
I had to get four shots of numbness for all corners of my mouth, but she went too deep or something and numbed my tongue and the back of it.
She missed my tooth and so it did a hurt a bit when they drilled ):
At least they have large cushioned breasts (See previous blog).
I am sorry, anyone who voluntarily spent a long ass time studying and huge mound of cash, just so they can play around in some else's mouth is fucked up.
I know that they are necessary but I just can't stand having those creepy white-coated bastards shove all manner of mechanical monstrosities into my mouth. To make matters worse, once they have injected you with god-aweful tasting anaesthetic they have the audacity to ask you if you feel anything. I'm a drooling freak, how the hell am I supposed to answer that. I can barely keep my tongue from taking a trip down the old throat highway, never mind talking. And dentists are supposed to be intelligent?
They are sadistic buggers. "You feel that?" Of course I feel that you just ripped a chunk of my body from me. They poke and prod exactly where it hurts and then just when you think it is over, they bring the dreaded weapon. That whiny, insect buzzing hacksaw. Following by the deep rough grinding thing, that makes your toes curl and your spine shake. It just aint right.
I reckon it is a public health conspiracy. Tuskegee all over again, but with less racial bias and more probing. Screw alien abduction, I am certain dentists are selected at birth by the authorities and are trained in the dark arts of medical experimentation.
On August 04 2011 10:55 Probulous wrote: I fucking hate the dentist...
I am sorry, anyone who voluntarily spent a long ass time studying and huge mound of cash, just so they can play around in some else's mouth is fucked up.
I know that they are necessary but I just can't stand having those creepy white-coated bastards shove all manner of mechanical monstrosities into my mouth. To make matters worse, once they have injected you with god-aweful tasting anaesthetic they have the audacity to ask you if you feel anything. I'm a drooling freak, how the hell am I supposed to answer that. I can barely keep my tongue from taking a trip down the old throat highway, never mind talking. And dentists are supposed to be intelligent?
They are sadistic buggers. "You feel that?" Of course I feel that you just ripped a chunk of my body from me. They poke and prod exactly where it hurts and then just when you think it is over, they bring the dreaded weapon. That whiny, insect buzzing hacksaw. Following by the deep rough grinding thing, that makes your toes curl and your spine shake. It just aint right.
I reckon it is a public health conspiracy. Tuskegee all over again, but with less racial bias and more probing. Screw alien abduction, I am certain dentists are selected at birth by the authorities and are trained in the dark arts of medical experimentation.
1. Will I get a choice between silver or white? I thought these were permanent and not something that needs replacing every so often @_@
2. Fuck, a root canal? Sounds fucking serious. This all sounds very lengthy and difficult. Makes me want to just suffer the consequences, but I guess it's an obligation.
1. I'd assume you can choose what type of filling you want. fillings are not permanent. they break down over time and will need to be replaced, otherwise tiny food particles or liquid starts seeping below a filling and decay your teeth under the filling.
it's too bad I didn't start researching into this until my dentist told me how screwed up my teeth were.
2. a root canal involves drilling into your tooth to the root pulp chamber and completely cleaning it out and putting in filling material. once the root pulp is cleaned out, your tooth is essentially dead from that point and becomes brittle, so a crown is highly recommended to support the remaining tooth structure.
if you're not experiencing a tooth ache, then you should not need a root canal.
also, crowns aren't permanent too. they have a longer lifetime than fillings though and can last for quite a while (decades) depending on crown quality and how well you take care of it (diet, brushing, flossing).
1. One of my teeth has a blatant hole in it. You can see that it's starting to rot from the inside or something. The hole hasn't gotten bigger since its inception nor do I feel any pain or sensitivity about it as I usually would with my smaller potential cavities (or holes that near nerves).
2. The bigger issue is my molar that has completely deteriorated. Half of it still stands, the other half has worn down to nothing or so and there's blackness at the bottom. Dead nerves perhaps and I should have saw a dentist before-hand.
dentist will take x-rays to get an idea of depth of tooth decay
1. you should just need a filling. if you don't feel any pain or sensitivity, the decay probably is still in the enamel and hasn't reached the dentin. silver amalgam fillings are cheaper and last longer but the dentist will remove more healthy tooth material to put in a silver amalgam filling.
composite fillings (white) are more expensive and don't last as long as silver amalgam fillings but doesn't need as much healthy tooth material removed to be put in.
2. if your molar is in as bad a state as you say, then you might need a crown. it's completely up to what the dentist sees in the x-ray and visually of the tooth.
ideally, you should want a filling done because if crown work is done on a tooth with a healthy root pulp, there is potential that the trauma from the crown work can be too much for the root pulp to take and kill it and then the dentist would have to perform a root canal and put in a new crown.
if you're not feeling any type of tooth ache from the molar, you should not need a root canal. the dentist may still give you a warning that a root canal might need to be performed if the decay appears near the root chamber though.
I went about 10 years without seeing the dentist and got absolutely owned for it. I had to have 1 tooth removed and developed an abscess with that tooth. I've had 6 old fillings replaced because they've all developed some sort of decay under them (fillings break down over time) and will have my 7th and final old filling replaced this upcoming Friday. I've also had 2-3 new fillings done. all this work has taken place over the past 3-4 months.
I've learned my lesson. always go see the dentist every 6 months. just because your teeth don't hurt doesn't mean they are not fucked up.
my diet has changed too. I basically just drink water or milk now and avoid drinking anything sugary. I can't eat anything that is too chewy or requires a decent amount of bite force because I have deep and large fillings.
if I eat anything that is too chewy, then I risk putting too much pressure on my root and producing a tooth ache from an irritated pulp.
if I eat anything that requires a decent amount of bite force, then I risk a root pulp toothache and cracking my teeth because there isn't enough tooth structure to support the force of the bite.
Holy shit, my savior!
1. Will I get a choice between silver or white? I thought these were permanent and not something that needs replacing every so often @_@
2. Fuck, a root canal? Sounds fucking serious. This all sounds very lengthy and difficult. Makes me want to just suffer the consequences, but I guess it's an obligation.
I don't feel any pain, I have to try really hard to actually get that nerve sensation of pain. I know what it is, I've felt it before, but no pain in here at all. Will I be given choices or preference? They one time try to advocate getting my wisdom teeth pulled but they never really were serious about it and I felt they were trying to extort from me.
As for your anecdote. That's really enlightening. I don't drink alcohol, so I just drink a lot of sugar or ice cream. It's to cope with my lack of sugar from when I used to eat a lot of candy. I'm trying to recede from it, but I'm kind of hooked on sugar in the sense that I have trouble functioning properly without the intake and I get either light-headed or dizzy/very hungry.
Right now, I can't eat thick steaks because it makes my lips very irritable and then I bite on them, so I avoid thick steaks and only very thin ones. Other than that, I'm a pasta kind of guy.
This really really helps me out.
I just recently had a root canal! Wait, I shouldn't be happy about that...
Anyway, when you get a root canal you have to go to an endodontist to do the procedure. They first test to see if your root is indeed dead, and you'll know because you won't feel anything in the tooth when they touch it (it's some cold liquid or the like and a gauge of sorts if I remember correctly).
If they confirm this, then they get you super numb (you can't feel anything at all) and begin to excavate the pulp completely so that there are no nerves left in the tooth. After that they put a temporary cap in the tooth and wait until your dentist can fashion a permanent solution (if they do it in one session, depends on the severity of it), or just make a filling if that's possible, but you can't chew on that side of your mouth until the permanent filling is in, which is a pain in the ass.
As for filling preferance, I'd go with silver, the white ones look more natural for sure, but they have a history of not lasting nearly as long, and need to be replaced more often (paraphrased from my dentist).
A root canal sucks, but the people who do this (endodontists) do it day in and out, and my guy was pro, I never felt at all uneasy or nervous around him, and he answered all of my questions (i'm fairly inquisitive), they were all quite professional.
As a slight aside, I'm only guessing that where you are the dental plans are relatively similar to the USA, but everyone is soo right, even if you don't have dental insurance, it only costs about $150 USD for me to get my two cleanings and 1 x-ray per year, so it's more than worth avoiding what eventually costed ~$1200, and that doesn't include the cost of a crown, which I didn't get. A root canal is an expensive ordeal.
1. Will I get a choice between silver or white? I thought these were permanent and not something that needs replacing every so often @_@
2. Fuck, a root canal? Sounds fucking serious. This all sounds very lengthy and difficult. Makes me want to just suffer the consequences, but I guess it's an obligation.
1. I'd assume you can choose what type of filling you want. fillings are not permanent. they break down over time and will need to be replaced, otherwise tiny food particles or liquid starts seeping below a filling and decay your teeth under the filling.
it's too bad I didn't start researching into this until my dentist told me how screwed up my teeth were.
2. a root canal involves drilling into your tooth to the root pulp chamber and completely cleaning it out and putting in filling material. once the root pulp is cleaned out, your tooth is essentially dead from that point and becomes brittle, so a crown is highly recommended to support the remaining tooth structure.
if you're not experiencing a tooth ache, then you should not need a root canal.
also, crowns aren't permanent too. they have a longer lifetime than fillings though and can last for quite a while (decades) depending on crown quality and how well you take care of it (diet, brushing, flossing).
For how many years does this last? Because I'm covered until the age of 24 and that's when I start moving around and figuring other things out.
1. One of my teeth has a blatant hole in it. You can see that it's starting to rot from the inside or something. The hole hasn't gotten bigger since its inception nor do I feel any pain or sensitivity about it as I usually would with my smaller potential cavities (or holes that near nerves).
2. The bigger issue is my molar that has completely deteriorated. Half of it still stands, the other half has worn down to nothing or so and there's blackness at the bottom. Dead nerves perhaps and I should have saw a dentist before-hand.
dentist will take x-rays to get an idea of depth of tooth decay
1. you should just need a filling. if you don't feel any pain or sensitivity, the decay probably is still in the enamel and hasn't reached the dentin. silver amalgam fillings are cheaper and last longer but the dentist will remove more healthy tooth material to put in a silver amalgam filling.
composite fillings (white) are more expensive and don't last as long as silver amalgam fillings but doesn't need as much healthy tooth material removed to be put in.
2. if your molar is in as bad a state as you say, then you might need a crown. it's completely up to what the dentist sees in the x-ray and visually of the tooth.
ideally, you should want a filling done because if crown work is done on a tooth with a healthy root pulp, there is potential that the trauma from the crown work can be too much for the root pulp to take and kill it and then the dentist would have to perform a root canal and put in a new crown.
if you're not feeling any type of tooth ache from the molar, you should not need a root canal. the dentist may still give you a warning that a root canal might need to be performed if the decay appears near the root chamber though.
I went about 10 years without seeing the dentist and got absolutely owned for it. I had to have 1 tooth removed and developed an abscess with that tooth. I've had 6 old fillings replaced because they've all developed some sort of decay under them (fillings break down over time) and will have my 7th and final old filling replaced this upcoming Friday. I've also had 2-3 new fillings done. all this work has taken place over the past 3-4 months.
I've learned my lesson. always go see the dentist every 6 months. just because your teeth don't hurt doesn't mean they are not fucked up.
my diet has changed too. I basically just drink water or milk now and avoid drinking anything sugary. I can't eat anything that is too chewy or requires a decent amount of bite force because I have deep and large fillings.
if I eat anything that is too chewy, then I risk putting too much pressure on my root and producing a tooth ache from an irritated pulp.
if I eat anything that requires a decent amount of bite force, then I risk a root pulp toothache and cracking my teeth because there isn't enough tooth structure to support the force of the bite.
Holy shit, my savior!
1. Will I get a choice between silver or white? I thought these were permanent and not something that needs replacing every so often @_@
2. Fuck, a root canal? Sounds fucking serious. This all sounds very lengthy and difficult. Makes me want to just suffer the consequences, but I guess it's an obligation.
I don't feel any pain, I have to try really hard to actually get that nerve sensation of pain. I know what it is, I've felt it before, but no pain in here at all. Will I be given choices or preference? They one time try to advocate getting my wisdom teeth pulled but they never really were serious about it and I felt they were trying to extort from me.
As for your anecdote. That's really enlightening. I don't drink alcohol, so I just drink a lot of sugar or ice cream. It's to cope with my lack of sugar from when I used to eat a lot of candy. I'm trying to recede from it, but I'm kind of hooked on sugar in the sense that I have trouble functioning properly without the intake and I get either light-headed or dizzy/very hungry.
Right now, I can't eat thick steaks because it makes my lips very irritable and then I bite on them, so I avoid thick steaks and only very thin ones. Other than that, I'm a pasta kind of guy.
This really really helps me out.
I just recently had a root canal! Wait, I shouldn't be happy about that...
Anyway, when you get a root canal you have to go to an endodontist to do the procedure. They first test to see if your root is indeed dead, and you'll know because you won't feel anything in the tooth when they touch it (it's some cold liquid or the like and a gauge of sorts if I remember correctly).
If they confirm this, then they get you super numb (you can't feel anything at all) and begin to excavate the pulp completely so that there are no nerves left in the tooth. After that they put a temporary cap in the tooth and wait until your dentist can fashion a permanent solution (if they do it in one session, depends on the severity of it), or just make a filling if that's possible, but you can't chew on that side of your mouth until the permanent filling is in, which is a pain in the ass.
As for filling preferance, I'd go with silver, the white ones look more natural for sure, but they have a history of not lasting nearly as long, and need to be replaced more often (paraphrased from my dentist).
A root canal sucks, but the people who do this (endodontists) do it day in and out, and my guy was pro, I never felt at all uneasy or nervous around him, and he answered all of my questions (i'm fairly inquisitive), they were all quite professional.
As a slight aside, I'm only guessing that where you are the dental plans are relatively similar to the USA, but everyone is soo right, even if you don't have dental insurance, it only costs about $150 USD for me to get my two cleanings and 1 x-ray per year, so it's more than worth avoiding what eventually costed ~$1200, and that doesn't include the cost of a crown, which I didn't get. A root canal is an expensive ordeal.
Hope it turns out well man!
Okay this is perfect. Do they let you do anything while they're doing the stuff? I'll go with silver since no one is realy going to get looking at my molars anyways. I might have to download some Day 9 goodness and listen to him while they're cleaning (I just can't smile ): ). I'm hoping my old 2006 MP3 can handle videos QQ
apparently I might need a root canal, but silver and get a crown. roger.
With this this kind of damage on your tooth, you will get a crown not a filling. My mom had a cavity like yours a few years ago. If the cavity is too large, they will remove most of the tooth and give you a crown that's made from silver or platinum or something. That's why you see some people with like a metal or gold tooth once in awhile in the back of their mouth.
On August 04 2011 11:44 AppleTart wrote: With this this kind of damage on your tooth, you will get a crown not a filling. My mom had a cavity like yours a few years ago. If the cavity is too large, they will remove most of the tooth and give you a crown that's made from silver or platinum or something. That's why you see some people with like a metal or gold tooth once in awhile in the back of their mouth.
Shit, really? I knew it was severe, but not to the point of a crown. Any suggestions on what I should get?
On August 04 2011 11:44 AppleTart wrote: With this this kind of damage on your tooth, you will get a crown not a filling. My mom had a cavity like yours a few years ago. If the cavity is too large, they will remove most of the tooth and give you a crown that's made from silver or platinum or something. That's why you see some people with like a metal or gold tooth once in awhile in the back of their mouth.
Shit, really? I knew it was severe, but not to the point of a crown. Any suggestions on what I should get?
Well, I'm not a dentist haha so take my word with a grain of salt. All I know is my mom has a crown cuz her cavity was really bad. She also has one fake tooth but it looks super super real like you can't tell its fake even if you tried your hardest. My mom is pretty responsible at brushing, but she is just very prone to cavities apparently..
1. Will I get a choice between silver or white? I thought these were permanent and not something that needs replacing every so often @_@
2. Fuck, a root canal? Sounds fucking serious. This all sounds very lengthy and difficult. Makes me want to just suffer the consequences, but I guess it's an obligation.
1. I'd assume you can choose what type of filling you want. fillings are not permanent. they break down over time and will need to be replaced, otherwise tiny food particles or liquid starts seeping below a filling and decay your teeth under the filling.
it's too bad I didn't start researching into this until my dentist told me how screwed up my teeth were.
2. a root canal involves drilling into your tooth to the root pulp chamber and completely cleaning it out and putting in filling material. once the root pulp is cleaned out, your tooth is essentially dead from that point and becomes brittle, so a crown is highly recommended to support the remaining tooth structure.
if you're not experiencing a tooth ache, then you should not need a root canal.
also, crowns aren't permanent too. they have a longer lifetime than fillings though and can last for quite a while (decades) depending on crown quality and how well you take care of it (diet, brushing, flossing).
For how many years does this last? Because I'm covered until the age of 24 and that's when I start moving around and figuring other things out.
Terrific, that's a huge relief.
these are rough numbers
composite (white fillings) are less than 5 years
silver amalgam fillings are ~7 years
crowns are at least 10 years. I think 10 years is the cut off point insurance companies use to cover a crown.
the numbers aren't static and fillings/crowns can break down much faster than that depending on quality of work, diet, and tooth care.
1. One of my teeth has a blatant hole in it. You can see that it's starting to rot from the inside or something. The hole hasn't gotten bigger since its inception nor do I feel any pain or sensitivity about it as I usually would with my smaller potential cavities (or holes that near nerves).
2. The bigger issue is my molar that has completely deteriorated. Half of it still stands, the other half has worn down to nothing or so and there's blackness at the bottom. Dead nerves perhaps and I should have saw a dentist before-hand.
dentist will take x-rays to get an idea of depth of tooth decay
1. you should just need a filling. if you don't feel any pain or sensitivity, the decay probably is still in the enamel and hasn't reached the dentin. silver amalgam fillings are cheaper and last longer but the dentist will remove more healthy tooth material to put in a silver amalgam filling.
composite fillings (white) are more expensive and don't last as long as silver amalgam fillings but doesn't need as much healthy tooth material removed to be put in.
2. if your molar is in as bad a state as you say, then you might need a crown. it's completely up to what the dentist sees in the x-ray and visually of the tooth.
ideally, you should want a filling done because if crown work is done on a tooth with a healthy root pulp, there is potential that the trauma from the crown work can be too much for the root pulp to take and kill it and then the dentist would have to perform a root canal and put in a new crown.
if you're not feeling any type of tooth ache from the molar, you should not need a root canal. the dentist may still give you a warning that a root canal might need to be performed if the decay appears near the root chamber though.
I went about 10 years without seeing the dentist and got absolutely owned for it. I had to have 1 tooth removed and developed an abscess with that tooth. I've had 6 old fillings replaced because they've all developed some sort of decay under them (fillings break down over time) and will have my 7th and final old filling replaced this upcoming Friday. I've also had 2-3 new fillings done. all this work has taken place over the past 3-4 months.
I've learned my lesson. always go see the dentist every 6 months. just because your teeth don't hurt doesn't mean they are not fucked up.
my diet has changed too. I basically just drink water or milk now and avoid drinking anything sugary. I can't eat anything that is too chewy or requires a decent amount of bite force because I have deep and large fillings.
if I eat anything that is too chewy, then I risk putting too much pressure on my root and producing a tooth ache from an irritated pulp.
if I eat anything that requires a decent amount of bite force, then I risk a root pulp toothache and cracking my teeth because there isn't enough tooth structure to support the force of the bite.
Holy shit, my savior!
1. Will I get a choice between silver or white? I thought these were permanent and not something that needs replacing every so often @_@
2. Fuck, a root canal? Sounds fucking serious. This all sounds very lengthy and difficult. Makes me want to just suffer the consequences, but I guess it's an obligation.
I don't feel any pain, I have to try really hard to actually get that nerve sensation of pain. I know what it is, I've felt it before, but no pain in here at all. Will I be given choices or preference? They one time try to advocate getting my wisdom teeth pulled but they never really were serious about it and I felt they were trying to extort from me.
As for your anecdote. That's really enlightening. I don't drink alcohol, so I just drink a lot of sugar or ice cream. It's to cope with my lack of sugar from when I used to eat a lot of candy. I'm trying to recede from it, but I'm kind of hooked on sugar in the sense that I have trouble functioning properly without the intake and I get either light-headed or dizzy/very hungry.
Right now, I can't eat thick steaks because it makes my lips very irritable and then I bite on them, so I avoid thick steaks and only very thin ones. Other than that, I'm a pasta kind of guy.
This really really helps me out.
I just recently had a root canal! Wait, I shouldn't be happy about that...
Anyway, when you get a root canal you have to go to an endodontist to do the procedure. They first test to see if your root is indeed dead, and you'll know because you won't feel anything in the tooth when they touch it (it's some cold liquid or the like and a gauge of sorts if I remember correctly).
If they confirm this, then they get you super numb (you can't feel anything at all) and begin to excavate the pulp completely so that there are no nerves left in the tooth. After that they put a temporary cap in the tooth and wait until your dentist can fashion a permanent solution (if they do it in one session, depends on the severity of it), or just make a filling if that's possible, but you can't chew on that side of your mouth until the permanent filling is in, which is a pain in the ass.
As for filling preferance, I'd go with silver, the white ones look more natural for sure, but they have a history of not lasting nearly as long, and need to be replaced more often (paraphrased from my dentist).
A root canal sucks, but the people who do this (endodontists) do it day in and out, and my guy was pro, I never felt at all uneasy or nervous around him, and he answered all of my questions (i'm fairly inquisitive), they were all quite professional.
As a slight aside, I'm only guessing that where you are the dental plans are relatively similar to the USA, but everyone is soo right, even if you don't have dental insurance, it only costs about $150 USD for me to get my two cleanings and 1 x-ray per year, so it's more than worth avoiding what eventually costed ~$1200, and that doesn't include the cost of a crown, which I didn't get. A root canal is an expensive ordeal.
Hope it turns out well man!
Okay this is perfect. Do they let you do anything while they're doing the stuff? I'll go with silver since no one is realy going to get looking at my molars anyways. I might have to download some Day 9 goodness and listen to him while they're cleaning (I just can't smile ): ). I'm hoping my old 2006 MP3 can handle videos QQ
apparently I might need a root canal, but silver and get a crown. roger.
Well, you might get a ca...Edit: Apple Tart's got it. I think the crown is usually suggested as it is the best to prevent cracking of the tooth later on. I wear a night guard, so it's not really an issue for me I think.
I think that you could likely listen to music or something, mayybe video, as long as it doesn't get in the way of their job or tools, which it shouldn't, but I would always inquire about that first. I can't remember exactly how long it took, a half hour I think? I had to go twice because the surrounding tissue was very inflamed, and they wanted it to calm down before they finished it.
On August 04 2011 10:18 SpoR wrote: i havent seen a dentist in like 5 years. sucks being poor
Pretty much the same. I have yet to find a job so still no dental insurance -_- Dental work is this country is just too fucking expensive anyways. I havent been to the dentist since I lost my insurance years ago. I have 2 teeth that are pretty bad but I just can't afford to get them fixed right now. I have had alot of dental work in the past as well. Seriously, dont drink sodas all day, shit is beyond horrible.
Most of my teeth are recovering but I am pretty sure those 2 teeth will have to be extracted.
I had a bad experience with the longtime dentist that I used to have as well, so I will need to look elsewhere. He wanted to extract a tooth that was dead/dying, one of the top molars in the very back. Ended up breaking the shit in half. Had to get my mom to drive me to a local oral surgeon in town to extract the tooth + stitch up the sinus cavity behind it, so really he shouldnt have been doing the extaction in the first fucking place.
Be careful about which dentist's you go too as well, some of them are shady like mine was.
On August 04 2011 11:44 AppleTart wrote: With this this kind of damage on your tooth, you will get a crown not a filling. My mom had a cavity like yours a few years ago. If the cavity is too large, they will remove most of the tooth and give you a crown that's made from silver or platinum or something. That's why you see some people with like a metal or gold tooth once in awhile in the back of their mouth.
Shit, really? I knew it was severe, but not to the point of a crown. Any suggestions on what I should get?
Well, I'm not a dentist haha so take my word with a grain of salt. All I know is my mom has a crown cuz her cavity was really bad. She also has one fake tooth but it looks super super real like you can't tell its fake even if you tried your hardest. My mom is pretty responsible at brushing, but she is just very prone to cavities apparently..
I must be too, I've never had braces like my three other siblings, but I get a lot of cavities (I'm at 32 since my last visit).
1. Will I get a choice between silver or white? I thought these were permanent and not something that needs replacing every so often @_@
2. Fuck, a root canal? Sounds fucking serious. This all sounds very lengthy and difficult. Makes me want to just suffer the consequences, but I guess it's an obligation.
1. I'd assume you can choose what type of filling you want. fillings are not permanent. they break down over time and will need to be replaced, otherwise tiny food particles or liquid starts seeping below a filling and decay your teeth under the filling.
it's too bad I didn't start researching into this until my dentist told me how screwed up my teeth were.
2. a root canal involves drilling into your tooth to the root pulp chamber and completely cleaning it out and putting in filling material. once the root pulp is cleaned out, your tooth is essentially dead from that point and becomes brittle, so a crown is highly recommended to support the remaining tooth structure.
if you're not experiencing a tooth ache, then you should not need a root canal.
also, crowns aren't permanent too. they have a longer lifetime than fillings though and can last for quite a while (decades) depending on crown quality and how well you take care of it (diet, brushing, flossing).
For how many years does this last? Because I'm covered until the age of 24 and that's when I start moving around and figuring other things out.
Terrific, that's a huge relief.
these are rough numbers
composite (white fillings) are less than 5 years
silver amalgam fillings are ~7 years
crowns are at least 10 years. I think 10 years is the cut off point insurance companies use to cover a crown.
the numbers aren't static and fillings/crowns can break down much faster than that depending on quality of work, diet, and tooth care.
1. One of my teeth has a blatant hole in it. You can see that it's starting to rot from the inside or something. The hole hasn't gotten bigger since its inception nor do I feel any pain or sensitivity about it as I usually would with my smaller potential cavities (or holes that near nerves).
2. The bigger issue is my molar that has completely deteriorated. Half of it still stands, the other half has worn down to nothing or so and there's blackness at the bottom. Dead nerves perhaps and I should have saw a dentist before-hand.
dentist will take x-rays to get an idea of depth of tooth decay
1. you should just need a filling. if you don't feel any pain or sensitivity, the decay probably is still in the enamel and hasn't reached the dentin. silver amalgam fillings are cheaper and last longer but the dentist will remove more healthy tooth material to put in a silver amalgam filling.
composite fillings (white) are more expensive and don't last as long as silver amalgam fillings but doesn't need as much healthy tooth material removed to be put in.
2. if your molar is in as bad a state as you say, then you might need a crown. it's completely up to what the dentist sees in the x-ray and visually of the tooth.
ideally, you should want a filling done because if crown work is done on a tooth with a healthy root pulp, there is potential that the trauma from the crown work can be too much for the root pulp to take and kill it and then the dentist would have to perform a root canal and put in a new crown.
if you're not feeling any type of tooth ache from the molar, you should not need a root canal. the dentist may still give you a warning that a root canal might need to be performed if the decay appears near the root chamber though.
I went about 10 years without seeing the dentist and got absolutely owned for it. I had to have 1 tooth removed and developed an abscess with that tooth. I've had 6 old fillings replaced because they've all developed some sort of decay under them (fillings break down over time) and will have my 7th and final old filling replaced this upcoming Friday. I've also had 2-3 new fillings done. all this work has taken place over the past 3-4 months.
I've learned my lesson. always go see the dentist every 6 months. just because your teeth don't hurt doesn't mean they are not fucked up.
my diet has changed too. I basically just drink water or milk now and avoid drinking anything sugary. I can't eat anything that is too chewy or requires a decent amount of bite force because I have deep and large fillings.
if I eat anything that is too chewy, then I risk putting too much pressure on my root and producing a tooth ache from an irritated pulp.
if I eat anything that requires a decent amount of bite force, then I risk a root pulp toothache and cracking my teeth because there isn't enough tooth structure to support the force of the bite.
Holy shit, my savior!
1. Will I get a choice between silver or white? I thought these were permanent and not something that needs replacing every so often @_@
2. Fuck, a root canal? Sounds fucking serious. This all sounds very lengthy and difficult. Makes me want to just suffer the consequences, but I guess it's an obligation.
I don't feel any pain, I have to try really hard to actually get that nerve sensation of pain. I know what it is, I've felt it before, but no pain in here at all. Will I be given choices or preference? They one time try to advocate getting my wisdom teeth pulled but they never really were serious about it and I felt they were trying to extort from me.
As for your anecdote. That's really enlightening. I don't drink alcohol, so I just drink a lot of sugar or ice cream. It's to cope with my lack of sugar from when I used to eat a lot of candy. I'm trying to recede from it, but I'm kind of hooked on sugar in the sense that I have trouble functioning properly without the intake and I get either light-headed or dizzy/very hungry.
Right now, I can't eat thick steaks because it makes my lips very irritable and then I bite on them, so I avoid thick steaks and only very thin ones. Other than that, I'm a pasta kind of guy.
This really really helps me out.
I just recently had a root canal! Wait, I shouldn't be happy about that...
Anyway, when you get a root canal you have to go to an endodontist to do the procedure. They first test to see if your root is indeed dead, and you'll know because you won't feel anything in the tooth when they touch it (it's some cold liquid or the like and a gauge of sorts if I remember correctly).
If they confirm this, then they get you super numb (you can't feel anything at all) and begin to excavate the pulp completely so that there are no nerves left in the tooth. After that they put a temporary cap in the tooth and wait until your dentist can fashion a permanent solution (if they do it in one session, depends on the severity of it), or just make a filling if that's possible, but you can't chew on that side of your mouth until the permanent filling is in, which is a pain in the ass.
As for filling preferance, I'd go with silver, the white ones look more natural for sure, but they have a history of not lasting nearly as long, and need to be replaced more often (paraphrased from my dentist).
A root canal sucks, but the people who do this (endodontists) do it day in and out, and my guy was pro, I never felt at all uneasy or nervous around him, and he answered all of my questions (i'm fairly inquisitive), they were all quite professional.
As a slight aside, I'm only guessing that where you are the dental plans are relatively similar to the USA, but everyone is soo right, even if you don't have dental insurance, it only costs about $150 USD for me to get my two cleanings and 1 x-ray per year, so it's more than worth avoiding what eventually costed ~$1200, and that doesn't include the cost of a crown, which I didn't get. A root canal is an expensive ordeal.
Hope it turns out well man!
Okay this is perfect. Do they let you do anything while they're doing the stuff? I'll go with silver since no one is realy going to get looking at my molars anyways. I might have to download some Day 9 goodness and listen to him while they're cleaning (I just can't smile ): ). I'm hoping my old 2006 MP3 can handle videos QQ
apparently I might need a root canal, but silver and get a crown. roger.
Well, you might get a ca...Edit: Apple Tart's got it. I think the crown is usually suggested as it is the best to prevent cracking of the tooth later on. I wear a night guard, so it's not really an issue for me I think.
I think that you could likely listen to music or something, mayybe video, as long as it doesn't get in the way of their job or tools, which it shouldn't, but I would always inquire about that first. I can't remember exactly how long it took, a half hour I think? I had to go twice because the surrounding tissue was very inflamed, and they wanted it to calm down before they finished it.
Nah, I tried video last time and they got mad. Then they said they really liked my Jazz (they were talking about girl shit, so I turned it up really really loud).
What's a night guard?
Really only half and hour? I doubt mine will be that short.
On August 04 2011 12:04 MassHysteria wrote: omg Torte! why didnt you go back when we talked about your dentist in your last blog >< ...
anyways just be careful with your jaw with all these dental procedures
Post in it, I don't mind whoring the blog section ;D
On August 04 2011 12:06 SonuvBob wrote: Do you have acid reflux? That can fuck your teeth up faster than acidic foods.
Also wtf, you have a gaping hole in your tooth and you're waiting until September?
What's that? No I don't think so. How do I know if I have it?
I have actually several "craters" and that massive hole in my tooth as you can see in the terrible picture. I've actually been trying to get an appointment since June but they love their vacations or something because they never picked up.
I have school plus business, so my schedule is very tight. I don't get a lot of time besides the few times I'm at home or at the computer doing other shit.
Depending on how radical you want to get, adopting a "Paleo" diet can really help. You'd be eschewing grains and cutting way down on fruits, both of which promote bacterial growth and the acid generation that comes with it. Also, supplementing with Vitamin K2 MK4 can really help. It's a vitamin that's responsible for helping the body utilize Calcium, namely redepositing it in bones and teeth. You'll want to combine it with Vitamin D. The link I provided is the kind you want to get (it's specifically the MK4 variety). It is expensive, but you just put 5 drops on your tongue per day, so by my calculations that bottle will last roughly 500 days. Google Weston A. Price tooth decay for some interesting non-mainstream ideas on dental health.
You could also try chewing a sugarless gum with xylitol in it after meals. Xylitol is toxic to the bacteria in your mouth that produce acid, and it helps your body absorb the calcium that is secreted in saliva, allowing the teeth to remineralize. The act of chewing the gum also helps stimulate saliva production. Trident is a common brand that contains xylitol (note that the Trident Layers and those new "Energy" or "Envigorate" kinds that have weird stimulants or vitamins in them generally do not.
Really try to work on your oral hygiene and diet as best you can, because if the root of the tooth becomes infected you either lose the tooth (can cause shifting in other teeth/big cosmetic and bite issues) or get a root canal. The latter weakens your immune system long term because your tooth effectively becomes foreign matter in your body and it may even be associated with some chronic diseases including cardiovascular disease. The theory is that because the tooth is dead bacteria are able to thrive inside the tubules of dentin that remain. This bacteria can then spread elsewhere in the body and wreak havoc. So if you can keep your tooth in your mouth and alive it's vastly preferable (obviously).
That sucks. Most dentists can fit you in pretty quick for emergencies, it's usually just cleanings that take months.
Acid reflex is stomach acid coming back up your throat, usually when you're lying down. If you wake up with a sour taste in your mouth, you probably have it at night.
I stopped drinking soda and eating candy/sugar for the most part and I haven't really had much problem with my teeth, but I can tell you about my experiences b4 I decided to call it quits on sugar.
If you have a hole in your tooth, depending on the depth and severity they could drill the living hell out of it. Removing all the decay is the first priority, and sometimes that means taking a good chunk of your tooth out. I don't know about you, but with nova-cane or not, having someone grind pieces of your teeth out is rather uncomfortable. Its not that your screaming from pain, but its like a piece of you is getting ripped apart, its very irritable and makes me feel bad each time it happens. I've had my share of fillings here and there, but its never a pleasant process. Good luck with the hole in your tooth, if I had to guess they will widen it quiet a bit (should you not need a root canal).
I've never had a root canal, but I hear horror stories about them.
Avoiding the dentist is probably a bad idea, especially if you have damaged teeth. If you just visit the dentist regularly and have good eating/upkeep habits it shouldn't be a bad experience at all. I personally don't hate the dentist, I just see it as inconvenient as seeing a general doctor.
You mentioned something about you thinking removing your wisdom teeth was just a crack to get money out of you, I can tell you that in general they are pretty important to remove. When wisdom teeth decide to come in, its rather painful and maddening. When I was a kid I had a day or two where my wisdom teeth decided to give a little push to get some room going for them, and it felt terrible. My mouth felt numb with irritation and pain (it felt like my wisdom teeth were trying to cut through my gums) that made it impossible to concentrate on anything else. Get them removed while your still in your teens, because they are very painful to remove when your an adult.
On August 04 2011 12:54 Chimpalimp wrote: You seem to be getting some pretty grim stories.
I stopped drinking soda and eating candy/sugar for the most part and I haven't really had much problem with my teeth, but I can tell you about my experiences b4 I decided to call it quits on sugar.
If you have a hole in your tooth, depending on the depth and severity they could drill the living hell out of it. Removing all the decay is the first priority, and sometimes that means taking a good chunk of your tooth out. I don't know about you, but with nova-cane or not, having someone grind pieces of your teeth out is rather uncomfortable. Its not that your screaming from pain, but its like a piece of you is getting ripped apart, its very irritable and makes me feel bad each time it happens. I've had my share of fillings here and there, but its never a pleasant process. Good luck with the hole in your tooth, if I had to guess they will widen it quiet a bit (should you not need a root canal).
I've never had a root canal, but I hear horror stories about them.
Avoiding the dentist is probably a bad idea, especially if you have damaged teeth. If you just visit the dentist regularly and have good eating/upkeep habits it shouldn't be a bad experience at all. I personally don't hate the dentist, I just see it as inconvenient as seeing a general doctor.
You mentioned something about you thinking removing your wisdom teeth was just a crack to get money out of you, I can tell you that in general they are pretty important to remove. When wisdom teeth decide to come in, its rather painful and maddening. When I was a kid I had a day or two where my wisdom teeth decided to give a little push to get some room going for them, and it felt terrible. My mouth felt numb with irritation and pain (it felt like my wisdom teeth were trying to cut through my gums) that made it impossible to concentrate on anything else. Get them removed while your still in your teens, because they are very painful to remove when your an adult.
Good luck in your dental adventures!
I've had things done to my teeth, like I said, I've had over 30 cavities in the past, so this isn't something unusual and the sculpting is a bit uncomfortable and weird because you can taste the shards of your teeth on your tongue.
Yeah, the dentist is inconvenient and I have to brush up on my french everytime I go, so it's a real hassle and my french is pretty rusty even after years of french schooling (going to a french school, etc.)
They don't hurt and they never did. That's why I thought he was trying to get some money out of me since he wasn't my regular and he did nothing but check my teeth visually (from his eye/point of view). It seemed sketchy and the next time I went, it was never brought up again with my regular guy.
Thanks!
On August 04 2011 12:38 Ingenol wrote: Depending on how radical you want to get, adopting a "Paleo" diet can really help. You'd be eschewing grains and cutting way down on fruits, both of which promote bacterial growth and the acid generation that comes with it. Also, supplementing with Vitamin K2 MK4 can really help. It's a vitamin that's responsible for helping the body utilize Calcium, namely redepositing it in bones and teeth. You'll want to combine it with Vitamin D. The link I provided is the kind you want to get (it's specifically the MK4 variety). It is expensive, but you just put 5 drops on your tongue per day, so by my calculations that bottle will last roughly 500 days. Google Weston A. Price tooth decay for some interesting non-mainstream ideas on dental health.
You could also try chewing a sugarless gum with xylitol in it after meals. Xylitol is toxic to the bacteria in your mouth that produce acid, and it helps your body absorb the calcium that is secreted in saliva, allowing the teeth to remineralize. The act of chewing the gum also helps stimulate saliva production. Trident is a common brand that contains xylitol (note that the Trident Layers and those new "Energy" or "Envigorate" kinds that have weird stimulants or vitamins in them generally do not.
Really try to work on your oral hygiene and diet as best you can, because if the root of the tooth becomes infected you either lose the tooth (can cause shifting in other teeth/big cosmetic and bite issues) or get a root canal. The latter weakens your immune system long term because your tooth effectively becomes foreign matter in your body and it may even be associated with some chronic diseases including cardiovascular disease. The theory is that because the tooth is dead bacteria are able to thrive inside the tubules of dentin that remain. This bacteria can then spread elsewhere in the body and wreak havoc. So if you can keep your tooth in your mouth and alive it's vastly preferable (obviously).
Good luck!
I don't know if I can incorporate your diet. I am pretty finnicky with food and love exploring new kinds of deserts, fruits and meals. It seems a bit extreme and I don't think I can incorporate it.
The rest of what you wrote is scary and this is coming from a son of a Cardiologist.
On August 04 2011 12:38 SonuvBob wrote: That sucks. Most dentists can fit you in pretty quick for emergencies, it's usually just cleanings that take months.
Acid reflex is stomach acid coming back up your throat, usually when you're lying down. If you wake up with a sour taste in your mouth, you probably have it at night.
They haven't seen me in years, so they don't know my condition. I told them it was in poor shape, but the secretary knows nothing and she said: "well we'll see with the cleanings" and stuff. :/
I have that taste actually a lot after I drink juices (I used to drink juice as I was going to sleep because I'd get rather instances of thirst where I'd wake up at 5 a.m or so and rush to the fridge for something to drink before going back to bed and falling right to sleep).
This was the perfect blog, figures it's Torte to my rescue. Not only have I had a similar past / current condition except less bad by maybe a factor of two or three on all accounts, but I've had some burning questions that got asked and answered with the rest of the thread.
That being said I can't rate the blog a 5 because that's just pure evil.
I hate the dentists. Every year I've gone since my adolescence it's gotten worse, and every year I DO actually try harder and care (especially once I hit my high school and college years,it's like, 2 min a day for personal health and self-image, why the fuck wouldn't I), yet every visit I get the same old report. It's so deflating.
On August 04 2011 12:38 SonuvBob wrote: That sucks. Most dentists can fit you in pretty quick for emergencies, it's usually just cleanings that take months.
Acid reflex is stomach acid coming back up your throat, usually when you're lying down. If you wake up with a sour taste in your mouth, you probably have it at night.
They haven't seen me in years, so they don't know my condition. I told them it was in poor shape, but the secretary knows nothing and she said: "well we'll see with the cleanings" and stuff. :/
I have that taste actually a lot after I drink juices (I used to drink juice as I was going to sleep because I'd get rather instances of thirst where I'd wake up at 5 a.m or so and rush to the fridge for something to drink before going back to bed and falling right to sleep).
Is that normal?
If it's acidic juice (most if not all fruit juices) then yeah a sour taste is normal, but that's probably worse than reflux if you're not brushing or at least rinsing before going to sleep. :p
You could most likely get a next day appointment to at least inspect your teeth if you tell them how bad it looks. I don't know how much an extra 6 weeks matters, but I wouldn't fuck around when there's a potential for infections and stuff. I've heard horror stories about untreated problems that turn into abscesses that do unspeakable things when left untreated
Yeah it's gonna suck to get everything fixed (though I've heard even root canals aren't that bad these days, just looong), but it's just a few unpleasant hours for years of neglect. The sooner you get it over with, the better. Then just brush your damn teeth properly a couple times a day and it won't happen again. :p
On August 04 2011 14:22 Duka08 wrote: This was the perfect blog, figures it's Torte to my rescue. Not only have I had a similar past / current condition except less bad by maybe a factor of two or three on all accounts, but I've had some burning questions that got asked and answered with the rest of the thread.
That being said I can't rate the blog a 5 because that's just pure evil.
I hate the dentists. Every year I've gone since my adolescence it's gotten worse, and every year I DO actually try harder and care (especially once I hit my high school and college years,it's like, 2 min a day for personal health and self-image, why the fuck wouldn't I), yet every visit I get the same old report. It's so deflating.
Thanks ;D! Everytime I visit them, they give me the same nagging lecture and burning questions that should be evident if they look, but they ask anyways~
On August 04 2011 12:38 SonuvBob wrote: That sucks. Most dentists can fit you in pretty quick for emergencies, it's usually just cleanings that take months.
Acid reflex is stomach acid coming back up your throat, usually when you're lying down. If you wake up with a sour taste in your mouth, you probably have it at night.
They haven't seen me in years, so they don't know my condition. I told them it was in poor shape, but the secretary knows nothing and she said: "well we'll see with the cleanings" and stuff. :/
I have that taste actually a lot after I drink juices (I used to drink juice as I was going to sleep because I'd get rather instances of thirst where I'd wake up at 5 a.m or so and rush to the fridge for something to drink before going back to bed and falling right to sleep).
Is that normal?
If it's acidic juice (most if not all fruit juices) then yeah a sour taste is normal, but that's probably worse than reflux if you're not brushing or at least rinsing before going to sleep. :p
You could most likely get a next day appointment to at least inspect your teeth if you tell them how bad it looks. I don't know how much an extra 6 weeks matters, but I wouldn't fuck around when there's a potential for infections and stuff. I've heard horror stories about untreated problems that turn into abscesses that do unspeakable things when left untreated
Yeah it's gonna suck to get everything fixed (though I've heard even root canals aren't that bad these days, just looong), but it's just a few unpleasant hours for years of neglect. The sooner you get it over with, the better. Then just brush your damn teeth properly a couple times a day and it won't happen again. :p
Thanks for the word of encouragement, I'll give them a ring, but anyone who's from Quebec knows that the "professionals" here are kinda laid back and town-village friendly.
I had a situation similar to yours and they wound up having to pull the whole tooth out. I remember sitting there as a guy basically took a pair of pliers and pulled at it for like 15 minutes, and then it broke into pieces and he had to cut my gum to get the rest of it out. I sat there with so much blood pouring out of my mouth I fainted (I'm a massive hemophobe).
A night guard is a much like the sports guards for your mouth except that it is molded specifically for your teeth. You can buy over the counter I think, but they're not as effective as these.
As for Acid Reflux, the number one thing that you should never be doing if you have any kind of reflux, is be eating before you sleep. I have a minor case, but I have my bed at an angle, which helps, but always, always stop putting things in my stomach at least 2 hrs before I go to bed.
Man I used to rarely brush my teeth. When i was a teen I went for like 2 months+ with barely brushing but I never got cavities. My dentists would always get all pissed at me and do deep cleanings and rant about how I was so stupid and lucky that I don't get cavities.
These days I try to brush and floss at least once a day but I'm prone to being lazy (working on that).
Hey, I only skimmed the posts after the original post, but I just wanted to say good luck. I let my teeth get pretty bad as well, and I can empathize with the whole dentist ordeal. I think SonuvBob has the right ideas. The acid reflux is a pretty big deal. Waiting an hour or two after eating to go to sleep or lay down will help a lot. Some say use extra pillows, but that doesn't work for me. He's also right about abscesses. Do not let it get to that point. It will be most likely the most enduring and intense pain you'll have to deal with in your life. Even worse than that, if one of your rear molars or wisdom teeth get to the point that the nerves begin to get infected, there is a chance that your body will react in a way such that it will swell near those nerves - which just so happen to lie very close to your wind pipe. People die this way. Whenever I feel my throat closing up, I fear if it's happening to me. Anyway, hope things work out.
My dentist told me that i was going to have a tooth come out sideways out of my gums and it would be very painful if i didnt get a surgery to correct the problem. Ten years later the tooth never came out of the side of the mouth and i didnt waste my money.
On August 04 2011 22:46 OasiS.oasis wrote: If you have trouble with / don't like cleaning your tongue with a toothbrush and toothpaste, use one of these:
On August 04 2011 23:47 Zorkmid wrote: Dentists in general are money grubbers that will do unnecessary work whenever they can to pay for their Z3s.
However, sounds like you're going to need a root canal.
Yeah, they get plenty of money from me anyways. I think the new guy who suggested taking my wisdom teeth out was unaware how much I give to these people.
On August 04 2011 22:46 OasiS.oasis wrote: If you have trouble with / don't like cleaning your tongue with a toothbrush and toothpaste, use one of these:
On August 04 2011 13:52 Torte de Lini wrote: They haven't seen me in years, so they don't know my condition. I told them it was in poor shape, but the secretary knows nothing and she said: "well we'll see with the cleanings" and stuff. :/
I feel your pain, for the most part. My mouth hates me. I used to go long brushing periods, and then long periods completely without. Almost every time I got back in a good routine all the problems started. Started brushing again for months in high school? Great, you need 9 fillings and a root canal! This has happened a lot. The most recent was late December when my crown (got that a year after the root canal when the tooth fell apart) got infected. Within a month of brushing again two teeth started falling apart. I have insurance (read: BAD insurance), so footing the bill has been a rewarding wakeup call....
Anyhow, if you're in pain they'll probably want to take xrays. I don't know why they'd waste their time with a cleaning when you clearly have more issues. I went to the dentist in December after the abscess appeared and all they did was xray! The dentist also recommended $7000 worth of treatment, so clearly when she saw my mouth she saw a European vacation! I went to a different dentist and the guy turned out to be amazing! He's working with my insurance, only working on what needs immediate attention, and forming long term plans. Yeah, there is a business side to dentistry, but like any decent medical professional he put my well-being first.
Anyways, if you don't like one dentist's treatment plan there's nothing stopping you from getting a second opinion (the old office will even mail over xrays!). However, one of the worst things you can do is let it sit. Root canal, crown, extraction, filling, material, etc.....all of this is essentially a medical decision, so you're best consulting with the medical professionals.
On August 04 2011 13:52 Torte de Lini wrote: They haven't seen me in years, so they don't know my condition. I told them it was in poor shape, but the secretary knows nothing and she said: "well we'll see with the cleanings" and stuff. :/
I feel your pain, for the most part. My mouth hates me. I used to go long brushing periods, and then long periods completely without. Almost every time I got back in a good routine all the problems started. Started brushing again for months in high school? Great, you need 9 fillings and a root canal! This has happened a lot. The most recent was late December when my crown (got that a year after the root canal when the tooth fell apart) got infected. Within a month of brushing again two teeth started falling apart. I have insurance (read: BAD insurance), so footing the bill has been a rewarding wakeup call....
Anyhow, if you're in pain they'll probably want to take xrays. I don't know why they'd waste their time with a cleaning when you clearly have more issues. I went to the dentist in December after the abscess appeared and all they did was xray! The dentist also recommended $7000 worth of treatment, so clearly when she saw my mouth she saw a European vacation! I went to a different dentist and the guy turned out to be amazing! He's working with my insurance, only working on what needs immediate attention, and forming long term plans. Yeah, there is a business side to dentistry, but like any decent medical professional he put my well-being first.
Anyways, if you don't like one dentist's treatment plan there's nothing stopping you from getting a second opinion (the old office will even mail over xrays!). However, one of the worst things you can do is let it sit. Root canal, crown, extraction, filling, material, etc.....all of this is essentially a medical decision, so you're best consulting with the medical professionals.
Thanks for the heads-up, I feel we're on the same boat. Maybe I will get a second opinion. I don't know much about doctors and such since I've been seeing the same dentist for years and I've only seen the doctor when I came to Canada.
I have one bad tooth. It's the last tooth bottom right. It's basically half a tooth. It doesn't hurt but it needed to be crowned or whatever but it was going to coat me a lot of money. Basically I brush twice a day and try to take care of them. I'd go get it taken care of before it gets really bad like a meth addict
On August 05 2011 06:58 ranshaked wrote: I have one bad tooth. It's the last tooth bottom right. It's basically half a tooth. It doesn't hurt but it needed to be crowned or whatever but it was going to coat me a lot of money. Basically I brush twice a day and try to take care of them. I'd go get it taken care of before it gets really bad like a meth addict
Just a small update. I'm going in on the 13th (in two days). Do you think they'll be mad if I'm sick as hell (congestion and headaches, a bit of coughing)?
wow this reminds me of myself a great deal. Very recently (like, a few days ago) a huge chunk of one my teeth just popped out while i was using a toothpick. I went to the dentist the next day and fortunately he was able to patch it up before the decay reached the bloodstream in the tooth. I hope your able to get through this without to much dentist related pain. If I learned anything from the experience its that my parents weren't fucking around when they told me to brush my teeth every day. my dentist said that if it had gotten much worse i would have needed a root canal, I hope you get off as easy as I did.
Good luck man
They wont be mad haha, I guess just try not to cough while hes sculpting your new tooth xD
On September 12 2011 02:01 Torte de Lini wrote: Just a small update. I'm going in on the 13th (in two days). Do you think they'll be mad if I'm sick as hell (congestion and headaches, a bit of coughing)?
Go regardless. The dentist wears a mask and if your teeth are that bad, don't delay it. They might postpone treatment if you have an open herpetic lesion (cold sore).
I've also got relatively weak teeth that are quite sensitive and get cavities easilly, despite me not consuming too many acidic things. So I can relate to your troubles.
In a sense it's nice knowing I'm not the only one who has to deal with this kind of stuff. But at the same time, I know just how much it sucks, so I feel for you.
On August 04 2011 22:46 OasiS.oasis wrote: If you have trouble with / don't like cleaning your tongue with a toothbrush and toothpaste, use one of these:
I use it every morning and it's great! You feel sooo much cleaner afterwards and don't have stinking breath. Anyways, good luck!
What is that? How does it work?
Looks like a tongue scraper.
I have something like this but it doesn't look insane. Its basically like a plastic spoon where 1 side has 'teeth' and the other side just is just a raised lip or 1 long tooth, and it even has a tooth pick at the end of the handle. 90% of the time when I use this thing I get tons of the yellow/white nasty tongue film off of my tongue and you can taste it coming off. yuck
lol ironic insane picture, but this is what it looks like but pink.
first thing I do when I wake up, even if I don't brush my teeth right away is use this thing and my mouth feels so much cleaner lol. Then when I brush my teeth, I still brush my tongue with brush and paste and my mouth is extra fresh feeling.
PS- I recently acquired apendicitis and am waiting for MSI to kick in. The bonus is that MSI will cover dentist stuff too. So now I can finally go to the dentist, but I need a lot of work done.. It's gonna be shitty but I'm excited.
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I think the crown is usually suggested as it is the best to prevent cracking of the tooth later on. I wear a night guard, so it's not really an issue for me I think.![[image loading]](http://store.chopra.com/images/products/largeimages/Gft_Tongue_Cleaner1_lg.jpg)
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