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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6600 Posts
July 25 2011 08:13 GMT
#21
Just play like normal. if you are already favored while playing some GM's then your MMR should be at the same level as some of them. After all there are more than 200 people fighting for the chance to be in GM so just hope you have the better mmr during the selection
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MasterOfChaos
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Germany2896 Posts
July 25 2011 09:04 GMT
#22
Becoming GM is easy. Whenever you want to BM your opponent don't hit the enter key. Say "Hi" and "have fun" in the beginning, and "gg" in the end.

Pro tip: don't say "gg" before your opponent if you're winning.
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blah_blah
Profile Joined April 2011
346 Posts
July 25 2011 10:00 GMT
#23
On July 25 2011 12:13 birdkicker wrote:
Hello TL.

What is the best way to approach GM promotion?


I assume that people will be placed into GM from day 1 of the server reset, unlike last season where there was a wait.

If your MMR is significantly better than top 200, you will be fine if you play a game close to when the server resets.

If your MMR is slightly outside the top 200, you are best off if you play like a madman starting the second the server reset hits. Even if you don't have top 200 MMR at the time of the reset, you just need your MMR to get in the top 200 at some point during your session to make GM. If you wait too long, other people with roughly the same skill level as you will get into GM essentially through this way, and the only remaining spots will be the 'reserved' spots for people with a significantly higher MMR than the baseline.

If your MMR is too far outside the top 200 there's not much you can do.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
July 25 2011 10:19 GMT
#24
6pool all the way
Deleted User 61629
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
July 25 2011 11:27 GMT
#25
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FreshNoThyme
Profile Joined March 2008
United States356 Posts
July 25 2011 12:10 GMT
#26
On July 25 2011 14:18 Galaxy_Zerg wrote:
go take GM. means nothing

I'm 1900+ masters too and i get raped by 1300 koreans

NA points are a false sense of achievement in my eyes


It actually does mean something. Pretty obvious. Not sure if you don't understand how the ladder system works or what, but it means you're top 200 in the U.S. ladder. Obviously, that means something. It means you are likely better than most players below you. That DEFINITELY means something.

False sense of achievement? It seems like quite an achievement to me. Just because better competition exists doesn't mean that GM isn't an accomplishment. The players there are generally better, which means YOU'LL get better playing them. That sounds that a great idea for players trying to get better.

See, you just want to sound elitist and condescending. And you're doing a good job. Too bad it isn't over something more important than a video game.
Th1rdEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1074 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 13:40:02
July 25 2011 13:32 GMT
#27
On July 25 2011 21:10 RANDOMCL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 14:18 Galaxy_Zerg wrote:
go take GM. means nothing

I'm 1900+ masters too and i get raped by 1300 koreans

NA points are a false sense of achievement in my eyes


It actually does mean something. Pretty obvious. Not sure if you don't understand how the ladder system works or what, but it means you're top 200 in the U.S. ladder. Obviously, that means something. It means you are likely better than most players below you. That DEFINITELY means something.

False sense of achievement? It seems like quite an achievement to me. Just because better competition exists doesn't mean that GM isn't an accomplishment. The players there are generally better, which means YOU'LL get better playing them. That sounds that a great idea for players trying to get better.

See, you just want to sound elitist and condescending. And you're doing a good job. Too bad it isn't over something more important than a video game.


Yeh, okay, that's why there's tons of players who don't get GM that are just as good as the GM's

I've beaten tons of GM's and I'm not GM... therefore, it means nothing

Go look at any GM's match history.. do they only lose to GM players?

My case stands, you tried to change my mind, but it didn't work

Also, suppose he does get GM. I've beaten him before, and I'm probably not going to try to get GM.. does that make him better than me? Did he achieve anything? Maybe you're a bronze player and GM seems appealing to you, but once you get to their actual level you realize that it means nothing

SlayerSCella, EGIdrA, FXOSheth, LGShew, JulyZerg.... all aren't GM on NA. the List goes on. Do you really think they lose to all GM players?
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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
July 25 2011 14:25 GMT
#28
The players there are generally better, which means YOU'LL get better playing them.
He already plays them, there's no hold back from the currently assigned league value. MMR counts
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Deleted User 61629
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
July 25 2011 14:55 GMT
#29
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Th1rdEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1074 Posts
July 25 2011 15:20 GMT
#30
On July 25 2011 23:55 Inori wrote:
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On July 25 2011 22:32 Galaxy_Zerg wrote:
On July 25 2011 21:10 RANDOMCL wrote:
On July 25 2011 14:18 Galaxy_Zerg wrote:
go take GM. means nothing

I'm 1900+ masters too and i get raped by 1300 koreans

NA points are a false sense of achievement in my eyes


It actually does mean something. Pretty obvious. Not sure if you don't understand how the ladder system works or what, but it means you're top 200 in the U.S. ladder. Obviously, that means something. It means you are likely better than most players below you. That DEFINITELY means something.

False sense of achievement? It seems like quite an achievement to me. Just because better competition exists doesn't mean that GM isn't an accomplishment. The players there are generally better, which means YOU'LL get better playing them. That sounds that a great idea for players trying to get better.

See, you just want to sound elitist and condescending. And you're doing a good job. Too bad it isn't over something more important than a video game.


Yeh, okay, that's why there's tons of players who don't get GM that are just as good as the GM's

I've beaten tons of GM's and I'm not GM... therefore, it means nothing

Go look at any GM's match history.. do they only lose to GM players?

My case stands, you tried to change my mind, but it didn't work

Also, suppose he does get GM. I've beaten him before, and I'm probably not going to try to get GM.. does that make him better than me? Did he achieve anything? Maybe you're a bronze player and GM seems appealing to you, but once you get to their actual level you realize that it means nothing

SlayerSCella, EGIdrA, FXOSheth, LGShew, JulyZerg.... all aren't GM on NA. the List goes on. Do you really think they lose to all GM players?

Sorry, but you're mad because you can't get to GM, so you try to find excuses to feel "false sense of achievement" over beating other GM while being in Masters.

That and you sound like an elitist, as the guy above me said.


Whatever, defend this guy all you want

GM doesn't matter
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bebe01
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)512 Posts
July 25 2011 16:33 GMT
#31
GM means nothing buddy but I'll give you some advice.. When I got in I had to work my ass off.. Was the #1 ranked masters player in the world before they finally let me in and I was on a 15 game win streak... Was slightly favored vs top25 GMs... But let me tell u ladder score means nothing .. Goodluck
Dalguno
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2446 Posts
July 25 2011 16:42 GMT
#32
One does not simply walk into GM...
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Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
July 25 2011 16:49 GMT
#33
GM is pretty static which is stupid if you ask me. Why not just have GM more flexible and let the top 200 in without having to kick someone out? Have it basically the top 200 of Masters. Otherwise its meaningless when Korean pros come over and destroy the shit out of NA ladder (look at MVP and Puzzle's NA accts, 80-95% winrates)
birdkicker
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States752 Posts
July 26 2011 05:38 GMT
#34
Ty for responses everyone! Season reset is tomorrow along with the new maps. Not sure how well i'd do with maps i never played before.

TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
July 26 2011 09:18 GMT
#35
GL and tell us if you made it
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Baeras
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States140 Posts
July 26 2011 10:00 GMT
#36
you have to keep your bonus pool at 0 well below a certain amount and inactivity = an instant boot if you're playing gm and crushing them you obviously need to be there just keep doing work son
Bet on it!
birdkicker
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States752 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 05:31:18
July 27 2011 05:30 GMT
#37
On July 26 2011 19:00 Baeras wrote:
you have to keep your bonus pool at 0 well below a certain amount and inactivity = an instant boot if you're playing gm and crushing them you obviously need to be there just keep doing work son


Thanks.

My MMR is still pretty high up there i think ( i hope T_T), but i started today with a 21 wins and 25 losses. Pretty shitty win rate, I wouldn't be suprised if my MMR got lower. Played Deezer, ThisIsJimmy, Namhcir, and other high pointed players today. 433 Points.

Overall, I'm not satisfied with my results today, I better pick it up before 2nd week.
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
July 27 2011 05:33 GMT
#38
wow you played almost 50 ladder games today? nice!!

I played my placement and lost. LOL
birdkicker
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States752 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 05:40:26
July 27 2011 05:39 GMT
#39
On July 27 2011 14:33 LuckyFool wrote:
wow you played almost 50 ladder games today? nice!!

I played my placement and lost. LOL


Yeah my left arm actually hurts after playing that many games because i tend to spam quite a bit.

By the way! Can you or any other high level player take a few minutes one some days to play a few practice games? I feel like my ZvP and ZvZ is GM level but my ZvT felt so lacking today. It would help a ton in preperation for the 2nd week.
blah_blah
Profile Joined April 2011
346 Posts
July 27 2011 07:50 GMT
#40
Sorry, my original post was wrong (I assumed that GM would open on day 1). Just ladder like a madman as soon as GM opens, what you do in the meantime doesn't really matter (assuming you win and lose at approximately your current rate).
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