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What is the best way to approach GM?

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birdkicker
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States752 Posts
July 25 2011 03:13 GMT
#1
Hello TL.

What is the best way to approach GM promotion?

I am a High Masters Zerg player now, playing since the end half of beta. Boasting 1977 points, getting matched with GMs and high masters, and also getting favored vs GMs as well as Even Teams, i think i could potentially get GM next season.

But how should i approach this promotion? What should I do to give me the best chance of promotion?

1) Keep playing games and hopefully not get on a losing streak before GM release, which is 2 weeks after season 3?

2) Stop laddering until GM is released?

3) Play fewer games then normal b/c of fear of losing streak?


Side Question: If i only play two games in season 3, one for promotion and one for GM placement, will I get into GM given that my MMR is high enough, or do i need to play more games?

TY for reading,
birdkicker.524 hopefully s3 GM

The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
July 25 2011 03:18 GMT
#2
If you are good enough to beat GM players, you shouldn't need to fear going on a massive losing streak. If you lose a lot of games, it's because you deserve it. If you win, obviously you deserve it (unless you cheese every game..)
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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
July 25 2011 03:19 GMT
#3
The best approach is to keep laddering. The more you ladder, the more you will improve. Even if you go on a losing stream, the amount that you will improve will make getting into GM slightly easier.
RageOverdose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States690 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 03:25:24
July 25 2011 03:21 GMT
#4
On July 25 2011 12:13 birdkicker wrote:
Hello TL.

What is the best way to approach GM promotion?

I am a High Masters Zerg player now, playing since the end half of beta. Boasting 1977 points, getting matched with GMs and high masters, and also getting favored vs GMs as well as Even Teams, i think i could potentially get GM next season.

But how should i approach this promotion? What should I do to give me the best chance of promotion?

1) Keep playing games and hopefully not get on a losing streak before GM release, which is 2 weeks after season 3?

2) Stop laddering until GM is released?

3) Play fewer games then normal b/c of fear of losing streak?


Side Question: If i only play two games in season 3, one for promotion and one for GM placement, will I get into GM given that my MMR is high enough, or do i need to play more games?

TY for reading,
birdkicker.524 hopefully s3 GM


You approach it by being top 200 in your region.

If you really have more MMR than some GM players (you only get booted out of GM in a season for being inactive I believe) then you could very well get placed next season if you are indeed top 200 and you keep your MMR up. Basically, if you really feel you are a shoe-in, then you should get promoted very quickly (actually I think they schedule when they do the GM league).

I'll find an explanation thread for you just in case I'm wrong and/or you need more.

EDIT: Found an FAQ.

Pretty much just keep it up if you feel you will get in and when they make the league for Season 3 then bam, you'll know for sure.
Bippzy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1466 Posts
July 25 2011 03:21 GMT
#5
On July 25 2011 12:19 Chairman Ray wrote:
The best approach is to keep laddering. The more you ladder, the more you will improve. Even if you go on a losing stream, the amount that you will improve will make getting into GM slightly easier.


This. Otherwise you'll get rusty. I think you got gm if you just maintain your skill level.
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LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
July 25 2011 03:26 GMT
#6
plz take my GM spot next season, ppl not being able to chat or add you without your code sux so much. I need to tank my mmr before next season so I get masters.
SoKHo
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)1081 Posts
July 25 2011 03:28 GMT
#7
On July 25 2011 12:18 TehTemplar wrote:
If you are good enough to beat GM players, you shouldn't need to fear going on a massive losing streak. If you lose a lot of games, it's because you deserve it. If you win, obviously you deserve it (unless you cheese every game..)


Even if he cheeses every game he still deserves it... I'm not sure where this mentality of cheese = undeserving is coming from... When Flash beats a zerg w/ 5 rax, nobody goes, "oh, he doesn't deserve that" Of course, he did, it's the opponent's fault for not defending the cheese.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 03:31:37
July 25 2011 03:30 GMT
#8
On July 25 2011 12:28 SoKHo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 12:18 TehTemplar wrote:
If you are good enough to beat GM players, you shouldn't need to fear going on a massive losing streak. If you lose a lot of games, it's because you deserve it. If you win, obviously you deserve it (unless you cheese every game..)


Even if he cheeses every game he still deserves it... I'm not sure where this mentality of cheese = undeserving is coming from... When Flash beats a zerg w/ 5 rax, nobody goes, "oh, he doesn't deserve that" Of course, he did, it's the opponent's fault for not defending the cheese.

Yeah, I guess you're right... but my point was that being a one trick pony (i.e cheesing every game) is not the right mentality you should have if you want to approach grandmasters.
Edit: Also, if you can cheese THAT WELL, then you probably still deserve it for having mad micro.
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ClysmiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2192 Posts
July 25 2011 03:36 GMT
#9
Just keep laddering and don't worry about your league. If you can beat GM's, then you know you're good enough to be in GM, whether you get chosen or not.
ThE_OsToJiY
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada1167 Posts
July 25 2011 03:45 GMT
#10
nothing you do changes your chances. It's MMR, so play a lot at the start of the season but I'm pretty sure most spots are reserved regardless.
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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
July 25 2011 03:47 GMT
#11
Ignore leagues completely, just don't think about that at all. Just play ladder as much as you find good for you personal improvement. The point is not to be GM, but to be good at the game.
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Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
July 25 2011 03:50 GMT
#12
Thinly veiled brag much?

I'm nowhere near GM so I can only offer you encouragement, ladder, ladder some more, practice, practice some more, and make another thinly veiled brag post once you get into GM! GL HF!
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birdkicker
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States752 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 04:26:50
July 25 2011 03:55 GMT
#13
On July 25 2011 12:50 Mobius_1 wrote:
Thinly veiled brag much?

I'm nowhere near GM so I can only offer you encouragement, ladder, ladder some more, practice, practice some more, and make another thinly veiled brag post once you get into GM! GL HF!


Sorry if this feels like a brag post but I'm actually really paranoid about getting into GM next seaso

The problem is, when i lose, I get quite upset, putting me easily on tilts...
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
July 25 2011 04:47 GMT
#14
On July 25 2011 12:55 birdkicker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 12:50 Mobius_1 wrote:
Thinly veiled brag much?

I'm nowhere near GM so I can only offer you encouragement, ladder, ladder some more, practice, practice some more, and make another thinly veiled brag post once you get into GM! GL HF!


Sorry if this feels like a brag post but I'm actually really paranoid about getting into GM next seaso

The problem is, when i lose, I get quite upset, putting me easily on tilts...

Sounds like you aren't ready for gm
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Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
July 25 2011 04:47 GMT
#15
On July 25 2011 12:55 birdkicker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 12:50 Mobius_1 wrote:
Thinly veiled brag much?

I'm nowhere near GM so I can only offer you encouragement, ladder, ladder some more, practice, practice some more, and make another thinly veiled brag post once you get into GM! GL HF!


Sorry if this feels like a brag post but I'm actually really paranoid about getting into GM next seaso

The problem is, when i lose, I get quite upset, putting me easily on tilts...

That should probably be your main focus, then. Remember to not queue for the next game until you've calmed down and have regained a clear perspective. Think about why you're upset. Is it because you made a mistake you could have easily avoided? If so then think about how you're going to fix it, and not let it happen next game. Is it because you lost focus mid-game? I'm not sure of a good fix for that, but keeping hydrated and eating healthy will be a great way to maintain focus. Hope that helps!
birdkicker
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States752 Posts
July 25 2011 04:49 GMT
#16
On July 25 2011 13:47 101toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 12:55 birdkicker wrote:
On July 25 2011 12:50 Mobius_1 wrote:
Thinly veiled brag much?

I'm nowhere near GM so I can only offer you encouragement, ladder, ladder some more, practice, practice some more, and make another thinly veiled brag post once you get into GM! GL HF!


Sorry if this feels like a brag post but I'm actually really paranoid about getting into GM next seaso

The problem is, when i lose, I get quite upset, putting me easily on tilts...

Sounds like you aren't ready for gm
Why not?!?!
Astrapto
Profile Joined December 2010
United States69 Posts
July 25 2011 05:00 GMT
#17
Do you want to get better, or have a high rank? Keep pressing "Find Match," keep analyzing your replays, and Blizzard will put you where they will.
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birdkicker
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States752 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 05:22:58
July 25 2011 05:08 GMT
#18
On July 25 2011 12:26 LuckyFool wrote:
plz take my GM spot next season, ppl not being able to chat or add you without your code sux so much. I need to tank my mmr before next season so I get masters.

I'd be glad to help you tank your MMR ... Just tell me when to search
Th1rdEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1074 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 05:21:24
July 25 2011 05:18 GMT
#19
go take GM. means nothing

I'm 1900+ masters too and i get raped by 1300 koreans

NA points are a false sense of achievement in my eyes
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nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
July 25 2011 07:13 GMT
#20
To actually try to answer your question, i would advice you to give alot of thought before everytime you hit the ladder button, and make sure you are well rested and with good concentration level, don't play when tired and take a break whenever you feel upset; this isn't the best way to practice and improve your skill, but it should keep your mmr at your highest possible current level, which means you have the best chance to get into gm! once you are in you can relax and start massgaming again
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