This is no white-knighting or trying to protect the poor girl.
Okay I didnt see all of her interviews, but I saw a lot of reactions, from making fun of her to reasonnable criticism to the usual disgusting sexism. Who is she? She's someone who obviously doesn't know a lot about Starcraft or "the community" ( hate that word), but she's enthusiastic about what she does and she tries her best. Here's a video, credit goes to AskJoshy:
You want Starcraft to go mainstream, you don't want Nerds to be laughed at, you want "the community" to grow? Be nice to people who are new. Respect that someone has no idea but tries. Help noobs instead of making fun of them.
Its okay to laugh about funny stuff she says and it's okay to say she needs to learn about the game ( as an interviewer of COURSE) , but learn to have some respect.
When you judge Lindsey or others, ignore their gender, seriously, just judge on what people say and do and ignore their race or gender. Reducing girls to "Wow she is smoking hot" is as bad as calling them ugly bitches. Compliments on the looks by a random stranger on the internet? Nah..
100 good posts may lead to not a single person reacting or giving a shit. 1 bad post gives you waves of attention. Analyzing that shit may raise some as well... let's see
Edit 1 :Many people responded to this line: Reducing girls to "Wow she is smoking hot" is as bad as calling them ugly bitches.
Yes I know it's pushed a bit far, but I think it underlines what point I'm trying to make. Calling you'Re girlfriend hot or complimenting a good friend of yours is something completely different then reducing someone to his physical appearance on the internet.
reactions, from making fun of her to reasonnable criticism to the usual disgusting sexism.
People will be disgusting ban bait. Then they will magically go away. It sucks but that's the internet. I won't address whatever sexism was going on. But I will say there's a hell of a lot more reasonable criticism and/or mocking than straight up sexism.
She's someone who obviously doesn't know a lot about Starcraft or "the community" ( hate that word), but she's enthusiastic about what she does and she tries her best.
We kinda are a community but I hate the term econ cheese so to each their own. But I see no defense for someone that doesn't know "a lot" (A generous way of putting it) about what they're talking about representing an organization.
She did interviews that were only memorable because of how tragic they were. She didn't know wtf she was talking about. It wasn't very good content.
My thoughts are they prominently featured women for sex appeal, not intelligence or intriguing interviewer skills. So mocking them seems fair game to me. However I've been trying (unsuccessfully) to keep my fingers quiet as I don't think its pertinent to bash someone after stating my opinion.
I don't really care wether it get's mainstream or not however I thought the majority of people wants to. Of course women are featured for sex appeal, and that sucks, but thats the system and not the girls fault.
i dont agree "wow she is smoking hot" is as bad as calling girls ugly. in fact girls like to be called smoking hot. please keep that in mind when you have a girlfriend.
also i agree with the fact that the community can be acrid towards certain people. but maybe.. boys will be boys. i'd say many people who don't speak up totally appreciate the work certain people are trying to do.
'Reducing girls to "Wow she is smoking hot" is as bad as calling them ugly bitches.'
Being judged purely upon your physical appearance as a girl isn't exactly fun. However, (speaking from an experience here on TL and irl) getting told you're part of the ugly bitch squad is definitely worse than being told you're smoking hot. Guys who'd dismiss a girl (as a friend) purely because she isn't 'smoking hot' aren't worth knowing anyway ^_^.
I'd rather Starcraft stays just how it is instead of becoming MNF.
reactions, from making fun of her to reasonnable criticism to the usual disgusting sexism.
People will be disgusting ban bait. Then they will magically go away. It sucks but that's the internet. I won't address whatever sexism was going on. But I will say there's a hell of a lot more reasonable criticism and/or mocking than straight up sexism.
She's someone who obviously doesn't know a lot about Starcraft or "the community" ( hate that word), but she's enthusiastic about what she does and she tries her best.
We kinda are a community but I hate the term econ cheese so to each their own. But I see no defense for someone that doesn't know "a lot" (A generous way of putting it) about what they're talking about representing an organization.
She did interviews that were only memorable because of how tragic they were. She didn't know wtf she was talking about. It wasn't very good content.
My thoughts are they prominently featured women for sex appeal, not intelligence or intriguing interviewer skills. So mocking them seems fair game to me. However I've been trying (unsuccessfully) to keep my fingers quiet as I don't think its pertinent to bash someone after stating my opinion.
I kinda think it was on NASL hiring someone who had no idea what they were talking about, and purely based on looks. Another mistake to put into their growing list of failures, but again the blame should be placed on NASL not Lindsey.
If you're a model and you get offered a chance to be on stream in front of tens of thousands of viewers, you take it for the publicity it might generate for you. She was hired, and NASL knew she had no previous experience with the game or the gaming scene. She at least tried her best.
Her interviews may have been terrible, but really you should be pinning the blame on the right people.
While i agree that sexist remarks aren't good, if she's getting a lot of hate for her work then she is doing a terrible job. If we want the community to grow then why should we put up with sub par standards just because somebody is trying something new?
But again, how on earth is that Lindsey's fault? Someone offers you a decent amount of money to do interviews at some event, would you turn it down just because you don't know much about it?
Are you one of those people who think holding a door open for a girl is sexist because she can get the door herself? lol I agree with every other point you made though. The interviews are quite awkward at times but its NASL's fault for that.
On July 10 2011 10:53 AlissyXOXO wrote: But again, how on earth is that Lindsey's fault? Someone offers you a decent amount of money to do interviews at some event, would you turn it down just because you don't know much about it?
Yes.
If you take a job you aren't qualified for than you better prepare to be yelled at.
On July 10 2011 10:48 Scaramanga wrote: While i agree that sexist remarks aren't good, if she's getting a lot of hate for her work then she is doing a terrible job. If we want the community to grow then why should we put up with sub par standards just because somebody is trying something new?
On July 10 2011 10:37 NeverGG wrote: 'Reducing girls to "Wow she is smoking hot" is as bad as calling them ugly bitches.'
Being judged purely upon your physical appearance as a girl isn't exactly fun. However, (speaking from an experience here on TL and irl) getting told you're part of the ugly bitch squad is definitely worse than being told you're smoking hot. Guys who'd dismiss a girl (as a friend) purely because she isn't 'smoking hot' aren't worth knowing anyway ^_^.
Who would want a 'smoking hot' girl as a friend? That would be awful, just awful.
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