Increase of cheese during lock?

PandaCore

Germany553 Posts

July 03 2011 22:04 GMT

Is it just me having bad luck with my opponents or did the amount of cheese increase drastically since the ladder lock was announced?

I usually hardly ever encountered cheese on the EU ladder... maybe 1 game out of 10.
But today in the 6 matches I played I was cheesed/all-inned 5 times.

So what are your experiences so far?

(oh yeah, league wise I'm currently in platinum, playing high plat and diamond players)

DruidzHistory

Sweden231 Posts

July 03 2011 22:11 GMT

Why would people cheese more during ladder lock? Im getting cheesed / allinned 50% of the games but thats pretty standard.

Denzil

United Kingdom4193 Posts

July 03 2011 22:12 GMT

People want some fast wins to either make their end of season rank look good or score a last minute promotion. Macro games aren't very effective at massing fast wins so I'd guess a well performed all in / cheese must win more than 50% of their games.

PandaCore

Germany553 Posts

July 03 2011 22:13 GMT

Maybe they're trying to spam as many games as possible to get their bonus pool down, since the season ends soon. That's the only reason I could come up with so far.

Other reason could be they want to get a quick promotion before the ladder lock goes to effect preventing all demotion/promotion.

RMP

United Kingdom130 Posts

July 03 2011 22:15 GMT

Haven't had an unusual amount of cheese. Rarely getting it these days. I do get all-ins but only from other zergs, which is pretty standard anyway. I'm high master
Merth.402

Torte de Lini

Germany38463 Posts

July 03 2011 22:18 GMT

Unlikely. It's just your personal experience, it's hard to compare and say yes or agree.
You could be getting cheesed more than usual because of the time of day, the specific players style or the maps.

Another person could be getting cheesed a lot less than you, but feel the frequency has increased when it's still within the norms + their own factors.

PandaCore

Germany553 Posts

July 03 2011 22:21 GMT

Yeah hope tomorrow looks different again.

I still managed to get out with a 4:2 today though. So I don't mind the all-ins too much, but they're not very fun games.

unit

United States2621 Posts

July 03 2011 23:36 GMT

i have noticed a few more allins today, im quite happy for it because if the cheeser isnt terran(they have some sick timings on 1base T_T) i just hold and have a quick win i went from just below 50% to around 51% winrate today (i have a lot of games played so thats actually significant :D)

Servius_Fulvius

United States947 Posts

July 04 2011 00:41 GMT

7 of my last 10 games on the gold ladder have been either cheese or a one base all-in. I'm going to 1v1 ladder in a few minutes, but I don't expect the ratio to be any lower. I'm ok with it. I'll lose to some and cream the rest!

Dromar

United States2145 Posts

July 04 2011 01:38 GMT

#10

On July 04 2011 07:13 PandaCore wrote:
Maybe they're trying to spam as many games as possible to get their bonus pool down, since the season ends soon. That's the only reason I could come up with so far.

This is why I hate the bonus pool. It shouldn't accumulate so quickly that players feel they need to cheese in order to have any hope of using it up.

Tegin

United States840 Posts

July 04 2011 07:47 GMT

#11

If your worried about it either play safe and standard or don't ladder and avoid it altogether. Most cheese is quite easy to beat so not sure what your so worried about.

Servius_Fulvius

United States947 Posts

July 04 2011 22:21 GMT

#12

On July 04 2011 09:41 Servius_Fulvius wrote:
7 of my last 10 games on the gold ladder have been either cheese or a one base all-in. I'm going to 1v1 ladder in a few minutes, but I don't expect the ratio to be any lower. I'm ok with it. I'll lose to some and cream the rest!

I felt an update was appropriate:

In the last 10 ladder games (played in the last 24 hours): 5 zvz, 3 zvp, 2 zvt

Cheese = 0

Compared to the last 10 games (7/10 cheese) this is quite a turnaround! I guess it all comes down to the luck of the match finder!

Still, of the 10 recent games, only 3 of my opponents took an expansion while the rest opted for one base strategies, some more crazy than others. Nothing terribly unreasonable except the terran who made more hellions than marines.

All my zvp's were against void ray strategies. The zvt's followed the trend of "early rush into banshee harass". All of the zvz's were banelings into mutas. None of this is "standard" in the sense that I don't see pros using any of these strategies, but it's a far cry from every game being cheese.

Note: I'm playing people at the upper tier of gold or mid platinum, so I am indeed playing people who are close to changing leagues.

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