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DeepCorrupted
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States84 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 23:39:39
June 20 2011 16:30 GMT
#1
edit: MODS please close this blog. Reason: to stop the flow of assholes haha. I'm basically done with this blog because it's purpose was to help calm me down and I've calmed down and now i dont havea purpose. It'd be much awesomest :D if you could thanks.



Thanks to the people who helped talking to me haha.

*
There are somethings in life where you just shake your head and say, "Dude... That's just wrong."
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
June 20 2011 16:36 GMT
#2
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DeepCorrupted
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States84 Posts
June 20 2011 16:38 GMT
#3
On June 21 2011 01:36 krndandaman wrote:
from what I can see, she probably does not like you but the best way to find out is to ask her.
seriously


i know seriously. Its gonna be very difficult for me to ask her cause i'm really nervous about and shy. I just wanted other people's opinions and stuff...
There are somethings in life where you just shake your head and say, "Dude... That's just wrong."
Raz0r
Profile Joined September 2008
United States287 Posts
June 20 2011 16:39 GMT
#4
I'd say go for it. Just play it confident,(not cocky) even if you aren't. Obviously be yourself too, if you have to be someone else just to be with this girl then you aren't a match. Don't read into things too much, just do what you can do at the time, and if you find out she doesn't like you or you read her wrong, its all cool. Yes it would be disappointing, but just try to still be her friend and get some experience with hanging out with girls.

Btw, Korean Americans FTW!
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
June 20 2011 16:41 GMT
#5
She seems to be flirting with you a lot, so maybe you should flirt back? Or just ask her out, worst happens, you get the answer to this thread.
TheGiz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada708 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 16:44:23
June 20 2011 16:41 GMT
#6
If she initiated physical contact with you without precedent for doing so, yes, she probably wants to sleep with you. I have female friends whom I've barely ever touched in my life. Any girl that I've touched more than a passing swipe of the hand I've done far worse with.

Plant one on her and see how it goes. What do you have to lose, some tease who's wasting your time? Sounds like a good deal to me!
Life is not about making due with what you have; it's about finding out just how much you can achieve. Never settle for anything less than the best. - - - Read my blog!
DeepCorrupted
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States84 Posts
June 20 2011 16:44 GMT
#7
On June 21 2011 01:39 Raz0r wrote:
I'd say go for it. Just play it confident,(not cocky) even if you aren't. Obviously be yourself too, if you have to be someone else just to be with this girl then you aren't a match. Don't read into things too much, just do what you can do at the time, and if you find out she doesn't like you or you read her wrong, its all cool. Yes it would be disappointing, but just try to still be her friend and get some experience with hanging out with girls.

Btw, Korean Americans FTW!


korea americans ftw thanks ^^. haha. I have to be confident before i even come close to being cocky
There are somethings in life where you just shake your head and say, "Dude... That's just wrong."
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
June 20 2011 16:45 GMT
#8
On June 21 2011 01:41 TheGiz wrote:
Plant one on her and see how it goes. What do you have to lose, some tease who's wasting your time? Sounds like a good deal to me!

A very uncomfortable violation of a friends personal space? Sounds like a good plan to me
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
DeepCorrupted
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States84 Posts
June 20 2011 16:47 GMT
#9
On June 21 2011 01:45 n.DieJokes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 01:41 TheGiz wrote:
Plant one on her and see how it goes. What do you have to lose, some tease who's wasting your time? Sounds like a good deal to me!

A very uncomfortable violation of a friends personal space? Sounds like a good plan to me


uncomfortable?
There are somethings in life where you just shake your head and say, "Dude... That's just wrong."
god_forbids
Profile Joined October 2010
United States111 Posts
June 20 2011 16:51 GMT
#10
Look the answer to the question is not as important as what you want to do with that information. Let's say she likes you. You gonna ask her out? Alright. How about if we random internet people think she doesn't like you? Will that keep you from asking her out? The answer is really irrelevant to what you need to do here, which is man up and ask the girl out so you can see how she acts with you one-on-one.

Then things should be pretty clear, no? If things don't work out you can still say you had fun hanging out with your friend from your (former?) church.
Junkka: "I prepared this" Protoss hwaiting!!!
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
June 20 2011 16:51 GMT
#11
On June 21 2011 01:47 DeepCorrupted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 01:45 n.DieJokes wrote:
On June 21 2011 01:41 TheGiz wrote:
Plant one on her and see how it goes. What do you have to lose, some tease who's wasting your time? Sounds like a good deal to me!

A very uncomfortable violation of a friends personal space? Sounds like a good plan to me


uncomfortable?

Sorry man, that's just how I read it
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
Rev0lution
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1805 Posts
June 20 2011 16:52 GMT
#12
Aww this story sound so cute............ Buy her jewelry and tell her she looks beautiful.

Then kiss her and ask her to be your girlfriend, 100% to work man.
My dealer is my best friend, and we don't even chill.
AbstractVoid
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States127 Posts
June 20 2011 16:53 GMT
#13
I would say go for it that is more than enough hints to at least suspect something is up, the least you can do is talk to her and ask her if she likes you and tell her how you feel. It's not like it will kill you to ask, you really have nothing to lose, but quite a lot to gain.
DeepCorrupted
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States84 Posts
June 20 2011 16:54 GMT
#14
On June 21 2011 01:51 n.DieJokes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 01:47 DeepCorrupted wrote:
On June 21 2011 01:45 n.DieJokes wrote:
On June 21 2011 01:41 TheGiz wrote:
Plant one on her and see how it goes. What do you have to lose, some tease who's wasting your time? Sounds like a good deal to me!

A very uncomfortable violation of a friends personal space? Sounds like a good plan to me


uncomfortable?

Sorry man, that's just how I read it


oh hell no :D but i will call it a violation. a very nice violation
There are somethings in life where you just shake your head and say, "Dude... That's just wrong."
DeepCorrupted
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States84 Posts
June 20 2011 16:55 GMT
#15
On June 21 2011 01:51 god_forbids wrote:
Look the answer to the question is not as important as what you want to do with that information. Let's say she likes you. You gonna ask her out? Alright. How about if we random internet people think she doesn't like you? Will that keep you from asking her out? The answer is really irrelevant to what you need to do here, which is man up and ask the girl out so you can see how she acts with you one-on-one.

Then things should be pretty clear, no? If things don't work out you can still say you had fun hanging out with your friend from your (former?) church.


you have a point. the thing is that its just a personal thing. I am very nervous about it and i just wanted to talk to other people about and say it. kinda weird habit of mine sorry
There are somethings in life where you just shake your head and say, "Dude... That's just wrong."
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
June 20 2011 16:59 GMT
#16
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DeepCorrupted
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States84 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 17:02:14
June 20 2011 17:01 GMT
#17
On June 21 2011 01:59 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 01:52 Rev0lution wrote:
Aww this story sound so cute............ Buy her jewelry and tell her she looks beautiful.

Then kiss her and ask her to be your girlfriend, 100% to work man.


no... dont buy jewelry for a girl if she's not even your gf yet

you're gonna regret using that money



unless you're a rich bastard though.


edit: Nope definately not a rich bastard nope.
There are somethings in life where you just shake your head and say, "Dude... That's just wrong."
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 17:13:30
June 20 2011 17:08 GMT
#18
I know it all feels very complicated to you, but it really is simple.

Ask her (how discreetly you want to be is up to you, you know her better than I do) if she's ever thought about being more than friends with you. Don't just come out and say it. Plan it well. Ask her to go hang out at your house, walk in the park, etc. And then subtly bring it up. You can simply say, "So, I've been thinking about something, and I was just wondering..." Do not go anywhere you can't really talk (i.e. the movies, a sports game, etc.) but also not somewhere that puts pressure on her, like a fancy restaurant, etc. Make it clear what you're conveying. Don't beat around the bush, but again, don't be pushy.

If she says yes (which I think she will, based on what you described), I'm sure you can take it from there. If she says no, just take it as that, and move on. Sure, things can get awkward, but just ignore it and play it cool, and you can continue to be great friends. If she says no, and starts acting weird, you probably don't want to be long-term friends with her anyways.

The simplicity is that you can either keep wasting your time and keep wondering about it, or you can find out so you can either continue to pursue something or keep going about your business.

I'm not going to be generic and say "you have nothing to lose." Because you do. If you don't play it well, or if she's crazy like that, you can lose a friend. It does happen, and some pseudo-macho-men might say "Whatever, who cares." But personally, I think that is a load of crap, and even if they don't really care, obviously you do, or else this wouldn't be as complicated as you feel it is. The better perspective in my opinion is that you have something to lose, but you find out exactly what it is that you lose if things don't work out.

After some years of dating and having similar experiences in between, and now having found the one, I wish I would've acted like this from the beginning. Sure would've saved me a lot of time and money at the psychologist's office. J/k about the last part.
TheGiz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada708 Posts
June 20 2011 17:09 GMT
#19
On June 21 2011 01:45 n.DieJokes wrote:
A very uncomfortable violation of a friends personal space? Sounds like a good plan to me


So when you kiss a girl on a date is she disgusted by your violation of her personal space? It's a kiss, she'll get over it. There is no foreseeable loss to this situation.

In high school I confessed my attraction to a female friend who flat-out rejected me and is now dating my cousin rather indefinitely. She's one of my closest personal friends and confidants. Does that moment from 1, 2... SEVEN years ago affect our relationship? Nope. Of course I'd still date her at the drop of a hat, but I don't fawn over her and it's not like that makes our relationship awkward in the least.
Life is not about making due with what you have; it's about finding out just how much you can achieve. Never settle for anything less than the best. - - - Read my blog!
Kutsuki
Profile Joined April 2010
United States29 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 17:28:43
June 20 2011 17:14 GMT
#20
I agree with god_forbids.

I might say some things you don't want to hear but from what I've read, you have known this girl for a while. You have not made any advances to progress your relationship so you are in the friend zone. You will have to make a "ladder jump".

Most people kiss within the first 3 dates. Since you are already her friend, I would recommend asking her if she likes you through a kiss. I think every man makes the mistake of "asking" her if she likes him. Talking her into liking you is very unlikely and all men will make that mistake at least once in their life. Take her out to a nice dinner and then followed by dessert. At the end of your date, call out her name to get her attention, look into her eyes, look at her lips, and then look back into her eyes and then kiss her on the lips. You will get a clear answer, she will most likely allow you to kiss her, most girls are too shy to refuse, if it was never meant to be then she'll refuse. If she does decline, you can simply respond with "Well, I still think you're a fun person and it would be cool if we could still be friends".

Remember, she is always going to be a girl before she is korean.
My better is better than your better
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
June 20 2011 17:14 GMT
#21
On June 21 2011 02:09 TheGiz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 01:45 n.DieJokes wrote:
A very uncomfortable violation of a friends personal space? Sounds like a good plan to me


So when you kiss a girl on a date is she disgusted by your violation of her personal space? It's a kiss, she'll get over it. There is no foreseeable loss to this situation.

In high school I confessed my attraction to a female friend who flat-out rejected me and is now dating my cousin rather indefinitely. She's one of my closest personal friends and confidants. Does that moment from 1, 2... SEVEN years ago affect our relationship? Nope. Of course I'd still date her at the drop of a hat, but I don't fawn over her and it's not like that makes our relationship awkward in the least.


Your cousin doesn't read TL does he?
palanq
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States761 Posts
June 20 2011 17:17 GMT
#22
gogo 300 apm flirting micro
be subtle but not too subtle
or, you know, just whip it out.
that'll make your intentions clear.
time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana
DeepCorrupted
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States84 Posts
June 20 2011 17:19 GMT
#23
On June 21 2011 02:17 palanq wrote:
gogo 300 apm flirting micro
be subtle but not too subtle
or, you know, just whip it out.
that'll make your intentions clear.


i only have 180 apm. will it be enough hahaha
There are somethings in life where you just shake your head and say, "Dude... That's just wrong."
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
June 20 2011 17:20 GMT
#24
On June 21 2011 02:09 TheGiz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 01:45 n.DieJokes wrote:
A very uncomfortable violation of a friends personal space? Sounds like a good plan to me


So when you kiss a girl on a date is she disgusted by your violation of her personal space? It's a kiss, she'll get over it. There is no foreseeable loss to this situation.

In high school I confessed my attraction to a female friend who flat-out rejected me and is now dating my cousin rather indefinitely. She's one of my closest personal friends and confidants. Does that moment from 1, 2... SEVEN years ago affect our relationship? Nope. Of course I'd still date her at the drop of a hat, but I don't fawn over her and it's not like that makes our relationship awkward in the least.

You are not saying kiss a girl on a date, you're saying go kiss your friend because you like her. Don't ask her how she feels about him or even ask her out on a date, just get physical and if she isn't down with it shes a tease. These are your words, this is what I quoted you saying. Do you understand that your anecdote from highschool and the advice you gave him are two different things?
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
June 20 2011 17:26 GMT
#25
On June 21 2011 02:19 DeepCorrupted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 02:17 palanq wrote:
gogo 300 apm flirting micro
be subtle but not too subtle
or, you know, just whip it out.
that'll make your intentions clear.


i only have 180 apm. will it be enough hahaha


Yes, but you'll have to cheese.
DeepCorrupted
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States84 Posts
June 20 2011 17:26 GMT
#26
On June 21 2011 02:20 n.DieJokes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 02:09 TheGiz wrote:
On June 21 2011 01:45 n.DieJokes wrote:
A very uncomfortable violation of a friends personal space? Sounds like a good plan to me


So when you kiss a girl on a date is she disgusted by your violation of her personal space? It's a kiss, she'll get over it. There is no foreseeable loss to this situation.

In high school I confessed my attraction to a female friend who flat-out rejected me and is now dating my cousin rather indefinitely. She's one of my closest personal friends and confidants. Does that moment from 1, 2... SEVEN years ago affect our relationship? Nope. Of course I'd still date her at the drop of a hat, but I don't fawn over her and it's not like that makes our relationship awkward in the least.

You are not saying kiss a girl on a date, you're saying go kiss your friend because you like her. Don't ask her how she feels about him or even ask her out on a date, just get physical and if she isn't down with it shes a tease. These are your words, this is what I quoted you saying. Do you understand that your anecdote from highschool and the advice you gave him are two different things?


guys dont worry about the whole thing ^^" I personally dont understand what it means by
So when you kiss a girl on a date is she disgusted by your violation of her personal space? It's a kiss, she'll get over it. There is no foreseeable loss to this situation.
There are somethings in life where you just shake your head and say, "Dude... That's just wrong."
DeepCorrupted
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States84 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 17:27:17
June 20 2011 17:26 GMT
#27
On June 21 2011 02:26 jacosajh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 02:19 DeepCorrupted wrote:
On June 21 2011 02:17 palanq wrote:
gogo 300 apm flirting micro
be subtle but not too subtle
or, you know, just whip it out.
that'll make your intentions clear.


i only have 180 apm. will it be enough hahaha


Yes, but you'll have to cheese.


mehh i play zerg. Not much i can do with cheese...

well actually... if i do it at the start... i can spam my way up to 400 :D
There are somethings in life where you just shake your head and say, "Dude... That's just wrong."
TheGiz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada708 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 17:27:50
June 20 2011 17:27 GMT
#28
I'm just saying you don't always have to ask how she feels. Sometimes in a private/intimate situation a spontaneous thing like that just works because in mutual cases it's what you both were thinking anyways. I've done that a few times before myself. That actually that led somewhere else very quickly too.
Life is not about making due with what you have; it's about finding out just how much you can achieve. Never settle for anything less than the best. - - - Read my blog!
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
June 20 2011 17:29 GMT
#29
my opinion: she doesn't like you, she's being nice. the way she acts... that's her personality.
blabberrrrr
DeepCorrupted
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States84 Posts
June 20 2011 17:31 GMT
#30
On June 21 2011 02:29 blabber wrote:
my opinion: she doesn't like you, she's being nice. the way she acts... that's her personality.



yeah thats what i am thinking or was... or whatever haha
There are somethings in life where you just shake your head and say, "Dude... That's just wrong."
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
June 20 2011 17:34 GMT
#31
you can still tell her you like her though... it will get rid of any pretense and (if she doesn't like you back) you guys can simply be normal friends
blabberrrrr
DeepCorrupted
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States84 Posts
June 20 2011 17:35 GMT
#32
On June 21 2011 02:34 blabber wrote:
you can still tell her you like her though... it will get rid of any pretense and (if she doesn't like you back) you guys can simply be normal friends


i was planning to anyway. I fucking like her and i gotta know haha.
There are somethings in life where you just shake your head and say, "Dude... That's just wrong."
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
June 20 2011 17:43 GMT
#33
I just want to say one thing:

Girls are not meant to be understood.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
Eatme
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
Switzerland3919 Posts
June 20 2011 17:43 GMT
#34
Well if it is any help alot of girls cant understand us guys. Almost all my female friends complain about that.

You could always look at getting girls as laddering. After 50 or so games you care less and less about losing.
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.Aar
Profile Joined September 2010
2177 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 07:13:35
June 20 2011 17:45 GMT
#35
Girls often don't know what they want. All those things you mentioned in the OP mean little to nothing.

On June 21 2011 02:34 blabber wrote:
you can still tell her you like her though... it will get rid of any pretense and (if she doesn't like you back) you guys can simply be normal friends


nononononononononononononononononononononononono

edit: NO
now run into the setting sun, and suffer, but don't mess up your hair.
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
June 20 2011 17:47 GMT
#36
On June 21 2011 02:45 .Aar wrote:
Girls don't know what they want. All those things you mentioned in the OP mean little to nothing.

Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 02:34 blabber wrote:
you can still tell her you like her though... it will get rid of any pretense and (if she doesn't like you back) you guys can simply be normal friends


nononononononononononononononononononononononono

edit: NO

actually yeah. it depends on the girl and the relationship you have with her. up to you to determine if its ok to tell her.
blabberrrrr
DeepCorrupted
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States84 Posts
June 20 2011 17:48 GMT
#37
On June 21 2011 02:45 .Aar wrote:
Girls don't know what they want. All those things you mentioned in the OP mean little to nothing.

Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 02:34 blabber wrote:
you can still tell her you like her though... it will get rid of any pretense and (if she doesn't like you back) you guys can simply be normal friends


nononononononononononononononononononononononono

edit: NO


could you explain? like... no to telling her or not to the second part... cause i wanna do the first part
There are somethings in life where you just shake your head and say, "Dude... That's just wrong."
jellyfish
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States149 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 17:54:24
June 20 2011 17:53 GMT
#38
It depends on how old you are and how old she is. I'm guessing 15, 16? I don't think you should take it so seriously just yet, as some of the above recommend. Don't think too far ahead to liking, and "proof," and so on. This'll just freak you out, and freak her out. Start with some light flirting back, trying to gauge her interest.

I used to be in way deep with a Korean-American church for about 5 years, around the same time. From my experience, Korean-American church girls can get pretty flirty without meaning anything serious. They just like the attention, or they're repressed, or something. Whatever. The point is that those types get off on flirting with guys who don't know how to flirt back, and will just pull back if you try too hard to reciprocate. If you get disappointed, try to keep in mind this is just how they are. *shrug*

But of course she could just be flirting honestly, right? In which case she'll amp up her flirting when you finally show interest back...Either way, you should just start off with some light flirting, just to test the waters. Try to relax, man (I know it's hard with teenage hormones etc hahaha). Few girls of any age or culture like a stressed out, panicking guy. It'll be better for you in the long run, whichever way it turns out.

:edit:

pretty much this:

On June 21 2011 02:45 .Aar wrote:
Girls don't know what they want. All those things you mentioned in the OP mean little to nothing.

Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 02:34 blabber wrote:
you can still tell her you like her though... it will get rid of any pretense and (if she doesn't like you back) you guys can simply be normal friends


nononononononononononononononononononononononono

edit: NO
DeepCorrupted
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States84 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 17:56:46
June 20 2011 17:55 GMT
#39
On June 21 2011 02:53 jellyfish wrote:
It depends on how old you are and how old she is. I'm guessing 15, 16? I don't think you should take it so seriously just yet, as some of the above recommend. Don't think too far ahead to liking, and "proof," and so on. This'll just freak you out, and freak her out. Start with some light flirting back, trying to gauge her interest.

I used to be in way deep with a Korean-American church for about 5 years, around the same time. From my experience, Korean-American church girls can get pretty flirty without meaning anything serious. They just like the attention, or they're repressed, or something. Whatever. The point is that those types get off on flirting with guys who don't know how to flirt back, and will just pull back if you try too hard to reciprocate. If you get disappointed, try to keep in mind this is just how they are. *shrug*

But of course she could just be flirting honestly, right? In which case she'll amp up her flirting when you finally show interest back...Either way, you should just start off with some light flirting, just to test the waters. Try to relax, man (I know it's hard with teenage hormones etc hahaha). Few girls of any age or culture like a stressed out, panicking guy. It'll be better for you in the long run, whichever way it turns out.


16 and shes 18

lol and thanks for your experiences ^^

and do you know what that guy meant by noo.... lol i am curious by what he meant
There are somethings in life where you just shake your head and say, "Dude... That's just wrong."
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6259 Posts
June 20 2011 17:55 GMT
#40
Sorry, I'm going to tell you something that you probably don't want to hear. If she's into you, she would not be acting that way. Either way, it's probably best that you confront the issue because not knowing is worse. At the very worse, she'll appreciate your bravery and it'll help improve your confidence for the future.
DeepCorrupted
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States84 Posts
June 20 2011 17:58 GMT
#41
On June 21 2011 02:55 Azzur wrote:
Sorry, I'm going to tell you something that you probably don't want to hear. If she's into you, she would not be acting that way. Either way, it's probably best that you confront the issue because not knowing is worse. At the very worse, she'll appreciate your bravery and it'll help improve your confidence for the future.


i am getting mixed information. it could be anything. its fine though
There are somethings in life where you just shake your head and say, "Dude... That's just wrong."
RedJustice
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1004 Posts
June 20 2011 18:05 GMT
#42
As a girl, I'd say she probably likes you. Also, seems she is sending you these signals because she is too shy to do anything about it. Flirt back with her. Tell her you like her. If you're good friends, but turns out you were mistaken, it'll probably be awkward for a week and then you'll get over it.
tenacity
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1587 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 18:08:00
June 20 2011 18:06 GMT
#43
The best advice is: Make a move! Regardless of how foolish you might look like. Not doing anything is the worst thing you could do. And girls lose interest very quickly if the guy doesn't act, so do something .
It does not need to be fun to be fun.
Bibdy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3481 Posts
June 20 2011 18:08 GMT
#44
Not doing anything will lead to regret and even less confidence. Want to break your perpetual cycle of low self-esteem? ASK HER OUT.
DeepCorrupted
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States84 Posts
June 20 2011 18:09 GMT
#45
On June 21 2011 03:08 Bibdy wrote:
Not doing anything will lead to regret and even less confidence. Want to break your perpetual cycle of low self-esteem? ASK HER OUT.


hahahaha I FUCKING WILL
There are somethings in life where you just shake your head and say, "Dude... That's just wrong."
Lemonhead
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark31 Posts
June 20 2011 18:10 GMT
#46
If you don't make a move, no matter how she feels you'll think about it for weeks/months/years.
If you make a move and she doesn't like you, you'll be sad for a week.
If you make a move and she likes you, SCORE

The answer if you think someone likes you, is always to make your move.

It's like StarCraft really. If you're afraid to ladder because you might lose, just do it anyway. Your nerves will go away no matter the result of the games.

Good luck.
Sometimes the best defense is an insane offense.
DeepCorrupted
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States84 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 18:12:02
June 20 2011 18:10 GMT
#47
On June 21 2011 03:10 Lemonhead wrote:
If you don't make a move, no matter how she feels you'll think about it for weeks/months/years.
If you make a move and she doesn't like you, you'll be sad for a week.
If you make a move and she likes you, SCORE

The answer if you think someone likes you, is always to make your move.

It's like StarCraft really. If you're afraid to ladder because you might lose, just do it anyway. Your nerves will go away no matter the result of the games.

Good luck.



thanks

edit: I edit just to put this lol just for you XD

did i mention i get to see her for an entire week during bible camp next week? XD
There are somethings in life where you just shake your head and say, "Dude... That's just wrong."
jellyfish
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States149 Posts
June 20 2011 18:13 GMT
#48
On June 21 2011 02:55 DeepCorrupted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 02:53 jellyfish wrote:
It depends on how old you are and how old she is. I'm guessing 15, 16? I don't think you should take it so seriously just yet, as some of the above recommend. Don't think too far ahead to liking, and "proof," and so on. This'll just freak you out, and freak her out. Start with some light flirting back, trying to gauge her interest.

I used to be in way deep with a Korean-American church for about 5 years, around the same time. From my experience, Korean-American church girls can get pretty flirty without meaning anything serious. They just like the attention, or they're repressed, or something. Whatever. The point is that those types get off on flirting with guys who don't know how to flirt back, and will just pull back if you try too hard to reciprocate. If you get disappointed, try to keep in mind this is just how they are. *shrug*

But of course she could just be flirting honestly, right? In which case she'll amp up her flirting when you finally show interest back...Either way, you should just start off with some light flirting, just to test the waters. Try to relax, man (I know it's hard with teenage hormones etc hahaha). Few girls of any age or culture like a stressed out, panicking guy. It'll be better for you in the long run, whichever way it turns out.


16 and shes 18

lol and thanks for your experiences ^^

and do you know what that guy meant by noo.... lol i am curious by what he meant


He was saying "nooooooo" because of all the people telling you to confess. And I agree. No need to expose yourself that much, yeah? The fact that you're confused right now should make that pretty clear...Like I said, just take it slow and flirt back, gather some more information, and then make your judgment. Jumping too far ahead will probably end up embarrassing/awkward for both of you no matter the result; could humiliate you if she's actually not that interested; or could scare her off if she was. So even if she does like you, it's better to take things at a more relaxed pace, in my experience.
tenacity
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1587 Posts
June 20 2011 18:13 GMT
#49
Bible camp sounds like the perfect setting for getting laid to me.
It does not need to be fun to be fun.
DeepCorrupted
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States84 Posts
June 20 2011 18:14 GMT
#50
On June 21 2011 03:13 tenacity wrote:
Bible camp sounds like the perfect setting for getting laid to me.


oh fuck yeah XD hahahahha
There are somethings in life where you just shake your head and say, "Dude... That's just wrong."
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 18:17:29
June 20 2011 18:14 GMT
#51
On June 21 2011 01:38 DeepCorrupted wrote:
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On June 21 2011 01:36 krndandaman wrote:
from what I can see, she probably does not like you but the best way to find out is to ask her.
seriously


i know seriously. Its gonna be very difficult for me to ask her cause i'm really nervous about and shy. I just wanted other people's opinions and stuff...


Why? The worst that can happen is she doesn't like you and you stop wasting your time, energy and emotions. You two can still be friends, but that way you can find a girl who actually does like you.

On June 21 2011 03:15 DeepCorrupted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 03:13 jellyfish wrote:
On June 21 2011 02:55 DeepCorrupted wrote:
On June 21 2011 02:53 jellyfish wrote:
It depends on how old you are and how old she is. I'm guessing 15, 16? I don't think you should take it so seriously just yet, as some of the above recommend. Don't think too far ahead to liking, and "proof," and so on. This'll just freak you out, and freak her out. Start with some light flirting back, trying to gauge her interest.

I used to be in way deep with a Korean-American church for about 5 years, around the same time. From my experience, Korean-American church girls can get pretty flirty without meaning anything serious. They just like the attention, or they're repressed, or something. Whatever. The point is that those types get off on flirting with guys who don't know how to flirt back, and will just pull back if you try too hard to reciprocate. If you get disappointed, try to keep in mind this is just how they are. *shrug*

But of course she could just be flirting honestly, right? In which case she'll amp up her flirting when you finally show interest back...Either way, you should just start off with some light flirting, just to test the waters. Try to relax, man (I know it's hard with teenage hormones etc hahaha). Few girls of any age or culture like a stressed out, panicking guy. It'll be better for you in the long run, whichever way it turns out.


16 and shes 18

lol and thanks for your experiences ^^

and do you know what that guy meant by noo.... lol i am curious by what he meant


He was saying "nooooooo" because of all the people telling you to confess. And I agree. No need to expose yourself that much, yeah? The fact that you're confused right now should make that pretty clear...Like I said, just take it slow and flirt back, gather some more information, and then make your judgment. Jumping too far ahead will probably end up embarrassing/awkward for both of you no matter the result; could humiliate you if she's actually not that interested; or could scare her off if she was. So even if she does like you, it's better to take things at a more relaxed pace, in my experience.



so he isnt necissarily saying not to confess but to take it slow right?


Don't think of it as confessing, you like a girl you're not a murderer. Everybody gets these feelings, it just takes time to learn to act properly upon them. The best way to learn? The ol' Trial and error method.
Hi.
DeepCorrupted
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States84 Posts
June 20 2011 18:15 GMT
#52
On June 21 2011 03:13 jellyfish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 02:55 DeepCorrupted wrote:
On June 21 2011 02:53 jellyfish wrote:
It depends on how old you are and how old she is. I'm guessing 15, 16? I don't think you should take it so seriously just yet, as some of the above recommend. Don't think too far ahead to liking, and "proof," and so on. This'll just freak you out, and freak her out. Start with some light flirting back, trying to gauge her interest.

I used to be in way deep with a Korean-American church for about 5 years, around the same time. From my experience, Korean-American church girls can get pretty flirty without meaning anything serious. They just like the attention, or they're repressed, or something. Whatever. The point is that those types get off on flirting with guys who don't know how to flirt back, and will just pull back if you try too hard to reciprocate. If you get disappointed, try to keep in mind this is just how they are. *shrug*

But of course she could just be flirting honestly, right? In which case she'll amp up her flirting when you finally show interest back...Either way, you should just start off with some light flirting, just to test the waters. Try to relax, man (I know it's hard with teenage hormones etc hahaha). Few girls of any age or culture like a stressed out, panicking guy. It'll be better for you in the long run, whichever way it turns out.


16 and shes 18

lol and thanks for your experiences ^^

and do you know what that guy meant by noo.... lol i am curious by what he meant


He was saying "nooooooo" because of all the people telling you to confess. And I agree. No need to expose yourself that much, yeah? The fact that you're confused right now should make that pretty clear...Like I said, just take it slow and flirt back, gather some more information, and then make your judgment. Jumping too far ahead will probably end up embarrassing/awkward for both of you no matter the result; could humiliate you if she's actually not that interested; or could scare her off if she was. So even if she does like you, it's better to take things at a more relaxed pace, in my experience.



so he isnt necissarily saying not to confess but to take it slow right?
There are somethings in life where you just shake your head and say, "Dude... That's just wrong."
jellyfish
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States149 Posts
June 20 2011 18:18 GMT
#53
On June 21 2011 03:15 DeepCorrupted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 03:13 jellyfish wrote:
On June 21 2011 02:55 DeepCorrupted wrote:
On June 21 2011 02:53 jellyfish wrote:
It depends on how old you are and how old she is. I'm guessing 15, 16? I don't think you should take it so seriously just yet, as some of the above recommend. Don't think too far ahead to liking, and "proof," and so on. This'll just freak you out, and freak her out. Start with some light flirting back, trying to gauge her interest.

I used to be in way deep with a Korean-American church for about 5 years, around the same time. From my experience, Korean-American church girls can get pretty flirty without meaning anything serious. They just like the attention, or they're repressed, or something. Whatever. The point is that those types get off on flirting with guys who don't know how to flirt back, and will just pull back if you try too hard to reciprocate. If you get disappointed, try to keep in mind this is just how they are. *shrug*

But of course she could just be flirting honestly, right? In which case she'll amp up her flirting when you finally show interest back...Either way, you should just start off with some light flirting, just to test the waters. Try to relax, man (I know it's hard with teenage hormones etc hahaha). Few girls of any age or culture like a stressed out, panicking guy. It'll be better for you in the long run, whichever way it turns out.


16 and shes 18

lol and thanks for your experiences ^^

and do you know what that guy meant by noo.... lol i am curious by what he meant


He was saying "nooooooo" because of all the people telling you to confess. And I agree. No need to expose yourself that much, yeah? The fact that you're confused right now should make that pretty clear...Like I said, just take it slow and flirt back, gather some more information, and then make your judgment. Jumping too far ahead will probably end up embarrassing/awkward for both of you no matter the result; could humiliate you if she's actually not that interested; or could scare her off if she was. So even if she does like you, it's better to take things at a more relaxed pace, in my experience.



so he isnt necissarily saying not to confess but to take it slow right?


haha yeah just don't do it too soon
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
June 20 2011 18:19 GMT
#54
On June 21 2011 03:18 jellyfish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 03:15 DeepCorrupted wrote:
On June 21 2011 03:13 jellyfish wrote:
On June 21 2011 02:55 DeepCorrupted wrote:
On June 21 2011 02:53 jellyfish wrote:
It depends on how old you are and how old she is. I'm guessing 15, 16? I don't think you should take it so seriously just yet, as some of the above recommend. Don't think too far ahead to liking, and "proof," and so on. This'll just freak you out, and freak her out. Start with some light flirting back, trying to gauge her interest.

I used to be in way deep with a Korean-American church for about 5 years, around the same time. From my experience, Korean-American church girls can get pretty flirty without meaning anything serious. They just like the attention, or they're repressed, or something. Whatever. The point is that those types get off on flirting with guys who don't know how to flirt back, and will just pull back if you try too hard to reciprocate. If you get disappointed, try to keep in mind this is just how they are. *shrug*

But of course she could just be flirting honestly, right? In which case she'll amp up her flirting when you finally show interest back...Either way, you should just start off with some light flirting, just to test the waters. Try to relax, man (I know it's hard with teenage hormones etc hahaha). Few girls of any age or culture like a stressed out, panicking guy. It'll be better for you in the long run, whichever way it turns out.


16 and shes 18

lol and thanks for your experiences ^^

and do you know what that guy meant by noo.... lol i am curious by what he meant


He was saying "nooooooo" because of all the people telling you to confess. And I agree. No need to expose yourself that much, yeah? The fact that you're confused right now should make that pretty clear...Like I said, just take it slow and flirt back, gather some more information, and then make your judgment. Jumping too far ahead will probably end up embarrassing/awkward for both of you no matter the result; could humiliate you if she's actually not that interested; or could scare her off if she was. So even if she does like you, it's better to take things at a more relaxed pace, in my experience.



so he isnt necissarily saying not to confess but to take it slow right?


haha yeah just don't do it too soon


I disagree with this, they've obviously known each other for a long time and delaying it longer will not only strain him, but also can have the unintentional repercussion of the girl losing interest.
Hi.
DeepCorrupted
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States84 Posts
June 20 2011 18:20 GMT
#55
On June 21 2011 03:18 jellyfish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 03:15 DeepCorrupted wrote:
On June 21 2011 03:13 jellyfish wrote:
On June 21 2011 02:55 DeepCorrupted wrote:
On June 21 2011 02:53 jellyfish wrote:
It depends on how old you are and how old she is. I'm guessing 15, 16? I don't think you should take it so seriously just yet, as some of the above recommend. Don't think too far ahead to liking, and "proof," and so on. This'll just freak you out, and freak her out. Start with some light flirting back, trying to gauge her interest.

I used to be in way deep with a Korean-American church for about 5 years, around the same time. From my experience, Korean-American church girls can get pretty flirty without meaning anything serious. They just like the attention, or they're repressed, or something. Whatever. The point is that those types get off on flirting with guys who don't know how to flirt back, and will just pull back if you try too hard to reciprocate. If you get disappointed, try to keep in mind this is just how they are. *shrug*

But of course she could just be flirting honestly, right? In which case she'll amp up her flirting when you finally show interest back...Either way, you should just start off with some light flirting, just to test the waters. Try to relax, man (I know it's hard with teenage hormones etc hahaha). Few girls of any age or culture like a stressed out, panicking guy. It'll be better for you in the long run, whichever way it turns out.


16 and shes 18

lol and thanks for your experiences ^^

and do you know what that guy meant by noo.... lol i am curious by what he meant


He was saying "nooooooo" because of all the people telling you to confess. And I agree. No need to expose yourself that much, yeah? The fact that you're confused right now should make that pretty clear...Like I said, just take it slow and flirt back, gather some more information, and then make your judgment. Jumping too far ahead will probably end up embarrassing/awkward for both of you no matter the result; could humiliate you if she's actually not that interested; or could scare her off if she was. So even if she does like you, it's better to take things at a more relaxed pace, in my experience.



so he isnt necissarily saying not to confess but to take it slow right?


haha yeah just don't do it too soon


oh fucking great lmao. okay i will consider.
There are somethings in life where you just shake your head and say, "Dude... That's just wrong."
tenacity
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1587 Posts
June 20 2011 18:21 GMT
#56
On June 21 2011 03:19 d(O.o)a wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 03:18 jellyfish wrote:
On June 21 2011 03:15 DeepCorrupted wrote:
On June 21 2011 03:13 jellyfish wrote:
On June 21 2011 02:55 DeepCorrupted wrote:
On June 21 2011 02:53 jellyfish wrote:
It depends on how old you are and how old she is. I'm guessing 15, 16? I don't think you should take it so seriously just yet, as some of the above recommend. Don't think too far ahead to liking, and "proof," and so on. This'll just freak you out, and freak her out. Start with some light flirting back, trying to gauge her interest.

I used to be in way deep with a Korean-American church for about 5 years, around the same time. From my experience, Korean-American church girls can get pretty flirty without meaning anything serious. They just like the attention, or they're repressed, or something. Whatever. The point is that those types get off on flirting with guys who don't know how to flirt back, and will just pull back if you try too hard to reciprocate. If you get disappointed, try to keep in mind this is just how they are. *shrug*

But of course she could just be flirting honestly, right? In which case she'll amp up her flirting when you finally show interest back...Either way, you should just start off with some light flirting, just to test the waters. Try to relax, man (I know it's hard with teenage hormones etc hahaha). Few girls of any age or culture like a stressed out, panicking guy. It'll be better for you in the long run, whichever way it turns out.


16 and shes 18

lol and thanks for your experiences ^^

and do you know what that guy meant by noo.... lol i am curious by what he meant


He was saying "nooooooo" because of all the people telling you to confess. And I agree. No need to expose yourself that much, yeah? The fact that you're confused right now should make that pretty clear...Like I said, just take it slow and flirt back, gather some more information, and then make your judgment. Jumping too far ahead will probably end up embarrassing/awkward for both of you no matter the result; could humiliate you if she's actually not that interested; or could scare her off if she was. So even if she does like you, it's better to take things at a more relaxed pace, in my experience.



so he isnt necissarily saying not to confess but to take it slow right?


haha yeah just don't do it too soon


I disagree with this, they've obviously known each other for a long time and delaying it longer will not only strain him, but also can have the unintentional repercussion of the girl losing interest.


exactly this.
It does not need to be fun to be fun.
DeepCorrupted
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States84 Posts
June 20 2011 18:21 GMT
#57
On June 21 2011 03:14 d(O.o)a wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 01:38 DeepCorrupted wrote:
On June 21 2011 01:36 krndandaman wrote:
from what I can see, she probably does not like you but the best way to find out is to ask her.
seriously


i know seriously. Its gonna be very difficult for me to ask her cause i'm really nervous about and shy. I just wanted other people's opinions and stuff...


Why? The worst that can happen is she doesn't like you and you stop wasting your time, energy and emotions. You two can still be friends, but that way you can find a girl who actually does like you.

Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 03:15 DeepCorrupted wrote:
On June 21 2011 03:13 jellyfish wrote:
On June 21 2011 02:55 DeepCorrupted wrote:
On June 21 2011 02:53 jellyfish wrote:
It depends on how old you are and how old she is. I'm guessing 15, 16? I don't think you should take it so seriously just yet, as some of the above recommend. Don't think too far ahead to liking, and "proof," and so on. This'll just freak you out, and freak her out. Start with some light flirting back, trying to gauge her interest.

I used to be in way deep with a Korean-American church for about 5 years, around the same time. From my experience, Korean-American church girls can get pretty flirty without meaning anything serious. They just like the attention, or they're repressed, or something. Whatever. The point is that those types get off on flirting with guys who don't know how to flirt back, and will just pull back if you try too hard to reciprocate. If you get disappointed, try to keep in mind this is just how they are. *shrug*

But of course she could just be flirting honestly, right? In which case she'll amp up her flirting when you finally show interest back...Either way, you should just start off with some light flirting, just to test the waters. Try to relax, man (I know it's hard with teenage hormones etc hahaha). Few girls of any age or culture like a stressed out, panicking guy. It'll be better for you in the long run, whichever way it turns out.


16 and shes 18

lol and thanks for your experiences ^^

and do you know what that guy meant by noo.... lol i am curious by what he meant


He was saying "nooooooo" because of all the people telling you to confess. And I agree. No need to expose yourself that much, yeah? The fact that you're confused right now should make that pretty clear...Like I said, just take it slow and flirt back, gather some more information, and then make your judgment. Jumping too far ahead will probably end up embarrassing/awkward for both of you no matter the result; could humiliate you if she's actually not that interested; or could scare her off if she was. So even if she does like you, it's better to take things at a more relaxed pace, in my experience.



so he isnt necissarily saying not to confess but to take it slow right?


Don't think of it as confessing, you like a girl you're not a murderer. Everybody gets these feelings, it just takes time to learn to act properly upon them. The best way to learn? The ol' Trial and error method.



i am too tired to fix this whole quote but like i said. its just my personality thing habit. I just have to
There are somethings in life where you just shake your head and say, "Dude... That's just wrong."
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
June 20 2011 18:23 GMT
#58
On June 21 2011 03:21 DeepCorrupted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 03:14 d(O.o)a wrote:
On June 21 2011 01:38 DeepCorrupted wrote:
On June 21 2011 01:36 krndandaman wrote:
from what I can see, she probably does not like you but the best way to find out is to ask her.
seriously


i know seriously. Its gonna be very difficult for me to ask her cause i'm really nervous about and shy. I just wanted other people's opinions and stuff...


Why? The worst that can happen is she doesn't like you and you stop wasting your time, energy and emotions. You two can still be friends, but that way you can find a girl who actually does like you.

On June 21 2011 03:15 DeepCorrupted wrote:
On June 21 2011 03:13 jellyfish wrote:
On June 21 2011 02:55 DeepCorrupted wrote:
On June 21 2011 02:53 jellyfish wrote:
It depends on how old you are and how old she is. I'm guessing 15, 16? I don't think you should take it so seriously just yet, as some of the above recommend. Don't think too far ahead to liking, and "proof," and so on. This'll just freak you out, and freak her out. Start with some light flirting back, trying to gauge her interest.

I used to be in way deep with a Korean-American church for about 5 years, around the same time. From my experience, Korean-American church girls can get pretty flirty without meaning anything serious. They just like the attention, or they're repressed, or something. Whatever. The point is that those types get off on flirting with guys who don't know how to flirt back, and will just pull back if you try too hard to reciprocate. If you get disappointed, try to keep in mind this is just how they are. *shrug*

But of course she could just be flirting honestly, right? In which case she'll amp up her flirting when you finally show interest back...Either way, you should just start off with some light flirting, just to test the waters. Try to relax, man (I know it's hard with teenage hormones etc hahaha). Few girls of any age or culture like a stressed out, panicking guy. It'll be better for you in the long run, whichever way it turns out.


16 and shes 18

lol and thanks for your experiences ^^

and do you know what that guy meant by noo.... lol i am curious by what he meant


He was saying "nooooooo" because of all the people telling you to confess. And I agree. No need to expose yourself that much, yeah? The fact that you're confused right now should make that pretty clear...Like I said, just take it slow and flirt back, gather some more information, and then make your judgment. Jumping too far ahead will probably end up embarrassing/awkward for both of you no matter the result; could humiliate you if she's actually not that interested; or could scare her off if she was. So even if she does like you, it's better to take things at a more relaxed pace, in my experience.



so he isnt necissarily saying not to confess but to take it slow right?


Don't think of it as confessing, you like a girl you're not a murderer. Everybody gets these feelings, it just takes time to learn to act properly upon them. The best way to learn? The ol' Trial and error method.



i am too tired to fix this whole quote but like i said. its just my personality thing habit. I just have to


You only have to because you tell yourself that you have to, I used to be extremely shy and wouldn't tell girls what's up, the only way to break that habit is to go all in. If you keep telling yourself you have to do things the way you do your life will never get better. The girl seems to at least have some interest and even if she doesn't, simply putting it out there that you're interested will serve you no harm. The worst possible situation is that you two stop talking for a while because you feel awkward or she does, and that's really not as bad as having feelings of regret for years.
Hi.
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
June 20 2011 18:24 GMT
#59
Kiss her
DeepCorrupted
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States84 Posts
June 20 2011 18:25 GMT
#60
real quick. i just remembered... before i left for korea. we were talking about gifts and she was threatning me because i forgot to get her something from las vegas a while back and so she was gonna do bad things to me lol if i didnt get her anything from korea. so i tried begging her out of it and then i decided to be like "hey beautiful awesome girl. how bout sparing me :D" and she called me a liar and i was like what reason do i have to lie and then she stopped texting me... or she was like sureeeee and then stopped i forget...

point of this story. no idea lmao
There are somethings in life where you just shake your head and say, "Dude... That's just wrong."
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
June 20 2011 18:25 GMT
#61
Even if you know nothing about girls, there's an easy, non-anxiety provoking way to find out.

Ask a bunch of girls what they think (instead of a predominantly male video game forum). This is why you have female friends. Ask your mom if you have to. If they all tell you similar things, you can confidently act accordingly.
DeepCorrupted
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States84 Posts
June 20 2011 18:27 GMT
#62
You only have to because you tell yourself that you have to, I used to be extremely shy and wouldn't tell girls what's up, the only way to break that habit is to go all in. If you keep telling yourself you have to do things the way you do your life will never get better. The girl seems to at least have some interest and even if she doesn't, simply putting it out there that you're interested will serve you no harm. The worst possible situation is that you two stop talking for a while because you feel awkward or she does, and that's really not as bad as having feelings of regret for years.


I most likely will go for it. Not to worry about me chickening out. I'm doing this because i HAVE to calm myself down haha. I'm all nervous about it but talking about it calms me down no worried :D
There are somethings in life where you just shake your head and say, "Dude... That's just wrong."
DeepCorrupted
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States84 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 18:28:55
June 20 2011 18:28 GMT
#63
On June 21 2011 03:25 igotmyown wrote:
Even if you know nothing about girls, there's an easy, non-anxiety provoking way to find out.

Ask a bunch of girls what they think (instead of a predominantly male video game forum). This is why you have female friends. Ask your mom if you have to. If they all tell you similar things, you can confidently act accordingly.


oi... I just wanted to talk about it hahaha. Besides. i have talked to a bunch of girls already.

as i will say AGAIN. i'm nervous about it. talking about it calms me down
There are somethings in life where you just shake your head and say, "Dude... That's just wrong."
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
June 20 2011 18:29 GMT
#64
On June 21 2011 03:27 DeepCorrupted wrote:
Show nested quote +
You only have to because you tell yourself that you have to, I used to be extremely shy and wouldn't tell girls what's up, the only way to break that habit is to go all in. If you keep telling yourself you have to do things the way you do your life will never get better. The girl seems to at least have some interest and even if she doesn't, simply putting it out there that you're interested will serve you no harm. The worst possible situation is that you two stop talking for a while because you feel awkward or she does, and that's really not as bad as having feelings of regret for years.


I most likely will go for it. Not to worry about me chickening out. I'm doing this because i HAVE to calm myself down haha. I'm all nervous about it but talking about it calms me down no worried :D


Yeah but you have nothing to be worried about, either she has feelings for you or not that's life. You might as well make plans to see her tonight assuming you're both available because the sooner you get it out of your way the sooner you can stop worrying.
Hi.
tenacity
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1587 Posts
June 20 2011 18:30 GMT
#65
Have you ever had a girlfriend before?
It does not need to be fun to be fun.
DeepCorrupted
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States84 Posts
June 20 2011 18:31 GMT
#66
On June 21 2011 03:29 d(O.o)a wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 03:27 DeepCorrupted wrote:
You only have to because you tell yourself that you have to, I used to be extremely shy and wouldn't tell girls what's up, the only way to break that habit is to go all in. If you keep telling yourself you have to do things the way you do your life will never get better. The girl seems to at least have some interest and even if she doesn't, simply putting it out there that you're interested will serve you no harm. The worst possible situation is that you two stop talking for a while because you feel awkward or she does, and that's really not as bad as having feelings of regret for years.


I most likely will go for it. Not to worry about me chickening out. I'm doing this because i HAVE to calm myself down haha. I'm all nervous about it but talking about it calms me down no worried :D


Yeah but you have nothing to be worried about, either she has feelings for you or not that's life. You might as well make plans to see her tonight assuming you're both available because the sooner you get it out of your way the sooner you can stop worrying.



i'm in korea right now and i get to see her for an entire week for bible camp... lol
There are somethings in life where you just shake your head and say, "Dude... That's just wrong."
DeepCorrupted
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States84 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 18:32:50
June 20 2011 18:31 GMT
#67
On June 21 2011 03:30 tenacity wrote:
Have you ever had a girlfriend before?


better answer would be i've had 2 and A LOT of things with girls
There are somethings in life where you just shake your head and say, "Dude... That's just wrong."
jellyfish
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States149 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 18:34:31
June 20 2011 18:33 GMT
#68
On June 21 2011 03:19 d(O.o)a wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 03:18 jellyfish wrote:
On June 21 2011 03:15 DeepCorrupted wrote:
On June 21 2011 03:13 jellyfish wrote:
On June 21 2011 02:55 DeepCorrupted wrote:
On June 21 2011 02:53 jellyfish wrote:
It depends on how old you are and how old she is. I'm guessing 15, 16? I don't think you should take it so seriously just yet, as some of the above recommend. Don't think too far ahead to liking, and "proof," and so on. This'll just freak you out, and freak her out. Start with some light flirting back, trying to gauge her interest.

I used to be in way deep with a Korean-American church for about 5 years, around the same time. From my experience, Korean-American church girls can get pretty flirty without meaning anything serious. They just like the attention, or they're repressed, or something. Whatever. The point is that those types get off on flirting with guys who don't know how to flirt back, and will just pull back if you try too hard to reciprocate. If you get disappointed, try to keep in mind this is just how they are. *shrug*

But of course she could just be flirting honestly, right? In which case she'll amp up her flirting when you finally show interest back...Either way, you should just start off with some light flirting, just to test the waters. Try to relax, man (I know it's hard with teenage hormones etc hahaha). Few girls of any age or culture like a stressed out, panicking guy. It'll be better for you in the long run, whichever way it turns out.


16 and shes 18

lol and thanks for your experiences ^^

and do you know what that guy meant by noo.... lol i am curious by what he meant


He was saying "nooooooo" because of all the people telling you to confess. And I agree. No need to expose yourself that much, yeah? The fact that you're confused right now should make that pretty clear...Like I said, just take it slow and flirt back, gather some more information, and then make your judgment. Jumping too far ahead will probably end up embarrassing/awkward for both of you no matter the result; could humiliate you if she's actually not that interested; or could scare her off if she was. So even if she does like you, it's better to take things at a more relaxed pace, in my experience.



so he isnt necissarily saying not to confess but to take it slow right?


haha yeah just don't do it too soon


I disagree with this, they've obviously known each other for a long time and delaying it longer will not only strain him, but also can have the unintentional repercussion of the girl losing interest.


I guess it's hard to judge for sure because we don't have the whole story...I was just going off my own...involved...experience with Korean American church girls, which is that sometimes, some of them flirt just to flirt. They don't necessarily have a clear intention. Some of the behaviors op reports (e.g. demanding jewelry, gifts from korea) are stuff that some of my friendgirls did/do even when they were too scared to follow through.

Also, I don't see why a girl would lose interest so long as his behavior/responses don't plateau...I assumed from the op that he's been too confused/timid to reciprocate, and that therefore he should start there. If anything, that should flatter her at the very least and draw out her real intentions. If she's actually interested, it'll prevent her from freaking out like Korean American church girls are wont to do.

:edit:
woop, seems your mind is made up. good luck, sir!
DeepCorrupted
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States84 Posts
June 20 2011 18:35 GMT
#69
On June 21 2011 03:33 jellyfish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 03:19 d(O.o)a wrote:
On June 21 2011 03:18 jellyfish wrote:
On June 21 2011 03:15 DeepCorrupted wrote:
On June 21 2011 03:13 jellyfish wrote:
On June 21 2011 02:55 DeepCorrupted wrote:
On June 21 2011 02:53 jellyfish wrote:
It depends on how old you are and how old she is. I'm guessing 15, 16? I don't think you should take it so seriously just yet, as some of the above recommend. Don't think too far ahead to liking, and "proof," and so on. This'll just freak you out, and freak her out. Start with some light flirting back, trying to gauge her interest.

I used to be in way deep with a Korean-American church for about 5 years, around the same time. From my experience, Korean-American church girls can get pretty flirty without meaning anything serious. They just like the attention, or they're repressed, or something. Whatever. The point is that those types get off on flirting with guys who don't know how to flirt back, and will just pull back if you try too hard to reciprocate. If you get disappointed, try to keep in mind this is just how they are. *shrug*

But of course she could just be flirting honestly, right? In which case she'll amp up her flirting when you finally show interest back...Either way, you should just start off with some light flirting, just to test the waters. Try to relax, man (I know it's hard with teenage hormones etc hahaha). Few girls of any age or culture like a stressed out, panicking guy. It'll be better for you in the long run, whichever way it turns out.


16 and shes 18

lol and thanks for your experiences ^^

and do you know what that guy meant by noo.... lol i am curious by what he meant


He was saying "nooooooo" because of all the people telling you to confess. And I agree. No need to expose yourself that much, yeah? The fact that you're confused right now should make that pretty clear...Like I said, just take it slow and flirt back, gather some more information, and then make your judgment. Jumping too far ahead will probably end up embarrassing/awkward for both of you no matter the result; could humiliate you if she's actually not that interested; or could scare her off if she was. So even if she does like you, it's better to take things at a more relaxed pace, in my experience.



so he isnt necissarily saying not to confess but to take it slow right?


haha yeah just don't do it too soon


I disagree with this, they've obviously known each other for a long time and delaying it longer will not only strain him, but also can have the unintentional repercussion of the girl losing interest.


I guess it's hard to judge for sure because we don't have the whole story...I was just going off my own...involved...experience with Korean American church girls, which is that sometimes, some of them flirt just to flirt. They don't necessarily have a clear intention. Some of the behaviors op reports (e.g. demanding jewelry, gifts from korea) are stuff that some of my friendgirls did/do even when they were too scared to follow through.

Also, I don't see why a girl would lose interest so long as his behavior/responses don't plateau...I assumed from the op that he's been too confused/timid to reciprocate, and that therefore he should start there. If anything, that should flatter her at the very least and draw out her real intentions. If she's actually interested, it'll prevent her from freaking out like Korean American church girls are wont to do.

:edit:
woop, seems your mind is made up. good luck, sir!


hahaha wells kinda made up.. im either gonna straight up ask/confess (gotta decide) or take it slow and flirt back... haha but either way i'm going for it... just dont know which way XDXDXD
There are somethings in life where you just shake your head and say, "Dude... That's just wrong."
tenacity
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1587 Posts
June 20 2011 18:36 GMT
#70
On June 21 2011 03:31 DeepCorrupted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 03:30 tenacity wrote:
Have you ever had a girlfriend before?


better answer would be i've had 2 and A LOT of things with girls


lol, then there is nothing you have to worry about. you're a baller.
It does not need to be fun to be fun.
DeepCorrupted
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States84 Posts
June 20 2011 18:37 GMT
#71
On June 21 2011 03:36 tenacity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 03:31 DeepCorrupted wrote:
On June 21 2011 03:30 tenacity wrote:
Have you ever had a girlfriend before?


better answer would be i've had 2 and A LOT of things with girls


lol, then there is nothing you have to worry about. you're a baller.


hehehe i'm not much of a baller thanks for your advice ^^
There are somethings in life where you just shake your head and say, "Dude... That's just wrong."
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
June 20 2011 18:39 GMT
#72
lol im sure someone already said this but look at the post made by ilovekittens. also...Are You Korean? LOLZ
DeepCorrupted
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States84 Posts
June 20 2011 18:40 GMT
#73
On June 21 2011 03:39 Golgotha wrote:
lol im sure someone already said this but look at the post made by ilovekittens. also...Are You Korean? LOLZ


yes. i am korean. dont LOLZ at me. -____-
There are somethings in life where you just shake your head and say, "Dude... That's just wrong."
tdynasty
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada220 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 18:54:07
June 20 2011 18:48 GMT
#74
Yikes.

Classic case of overanalyzing you're feelings and you're interactions with her.

I used to have alot of scenarios like this. Since i'm pretty good looking and where I live girls are somewhat expecting you to initiate relationship.

The way that I am is not amazing for dating. I'm picky and really only like a girl once every other year. Almost all my relationships began from friendly interactions like you were saying, sometimes drawn out over a long period of time.

The best way to get a Girlfriend is to have a long "hang-out" session with her. Do something that compliments talking, you want to trigger long-term conversations. At this point, focus on the conversation not you're feelings.

Girls like confidence, forget about you're feelings. Wait for a good moment and make a "ONE MOVE" Something like, sitting directly next to her. You have initiate physical contact, my advise is one small move, if that goes well. Then Proceed in for a Kiss.

My advice, don't ask her anything. Show you're feelings and see how she responds.
Talking about feelings is seen as weakness in almost all humans. Showing you're feelings is strength. And in relationships humour is always a win, talking about feelings is never funny. Avoid all feelings conversations until you are married. Otherwise you are doing it wrong!
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RedJustice
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1004 Posts
June 20 2011 19:04 GMT
#75
Oh and one more thing...

All of these men in the thread advising you to just kiss her are pretty dumb. Unless it is a situation clearly inviting physical contact and kissing, don't just randomly kiss a girl. Even if it was a friend of mine, I would be incredibly disgusted and put off by that kind of behavior. That kind of invasive behavior is so very rude and physically intimidating. For many women, it raises the red flag: he's initiating intimate/sexual actions that I never agreed to and am not comfortable with, gtfo. If you at all not sure if she wants to be kissed, ask her. She will probably think it is cute of you.
DeepCorrupted
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States84 Posts
June 20 2011 19:06 GMT
#76
On June 21 2011 04:04 RedJustice wrote:
Oh and one more thing...

All of these men in the thread advising you to just kiss her are pretty dumb. Unless it is a situation clearly inviting physical contact and kissing, don't just randomly kiss a girl. Even if it was a friend of mine, I would be incredibly disgusted and put off by that kind of behavior. That kind of invasive behavior is so very rude and physically intimidating. For many women, it raises the red flag: he's initiating intimate/sexual actions that I never agreed to and am not comfortable with, gtfo. If you at all not sure if she wants to be kissed, ask her. She will probably think it is cute of you.


hahaha i wasn't planning to. thanks for the heads up
There are somethings in life where you just shake your head and say, "Dude... That's just wrong."
SaYyId
Profile Joined August 2010
Portugal277 Posts
June 20 2011 19:18 GMT
#77
Who gives a fuck about girls? As a matter of fact, who gives a fuck about having a relationship with anyone? And still, people ask me about my mysanthropic tendencies...
No Strings. No attachments.
DeepCorrupted
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States84 Posts
June 20 2011 19:20 GMT
#78
On June 21 2011 04:18 SaYyId wrote:
Who gives a fuck about girls? As a matter of fact, who gives a fuck about having a relationship with anyone? And still, people ask me about my mysanthropic tendencies...


well obviously. i do ^^

There are somethings in life where you just shake your head and say, "Dude... That's just wrong."
SaYyId
Profile Joined August 2010
Portugal277 Posts
June 20 2011 19:22 GMT
#79
On June 21 2011 04:20 DeepCorrupted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 04:18 SaYyId wrote:
Who gives a fuck about girls? As a matter of fact, who gives a fuck about having a relationship with anyone? And still, people ask me about my mysanthropic tendencies...


well obviously. i do ^^


Don't mind me. I am different.
No Strings. No attachments.
DeepCorrupted
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States84 Posts
June 20 2011 19:23 GMT
#80
On June 21 2011 04:22 SaYyId wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 04:20 DeepCorrupted wrote:
On June 21 2011 04:18 SaYyId wrote:
Who gives a fuck about girls? As a matter of fact, who gives a fuck about having a relationship with anyone? And still, people ask me about my mysanthropic tendencies...


well obviously. i do ^^


Don't mind me. I am different.


haha its okay
There are somethings in life where you just shake your head and say, "Dude... That's just wrong."
SnetteL
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Belgium473 Posts
June 20 2011 19:32 GMT
#81
There's only one thing a respectable man can do in your situation to asses the way she feels about you:

1) treat her like shit
2) seduce her best friend / sister
3) analyze how she responds

If she's sad, she liked you, if she's angry you were more like a friend to her and if she doesn't really care about the whole situation she WAS A STUPID BITCH WHO WASNT WORTH YOUR TIME IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Let me know how it went.
Caps lock is cruise control for cool.
DeepCorrupted
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States84 Posts
June 20 2011 19:34 GMT
#82
On June 21 2011 04:32 SnetteL wrote:
There's only one thing a respectable man can do in your situation to asses the way she feels about you:

1) treat her like shit
2) seduce her best friend / sister
3) analyze how she responds

If she's sad, she liked you, if she's angry you were more like a friend to her and if she doesn't really care about the whole situation she WAS A STUPID BITCH WHO WASNT WORTH YOUR TIME IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Let me know how it went.


hahahah thats funny :D
There are somethings in life where you just shake your head and say, "Dude... That's just wrong."
DeepCorrupted
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States84 Posts
June 20 2011 19:35 GMT
#83
I am off to bed. 4:35 in korea XD so tired. thanks for everyone who helped :3 or at least. talking to me hahah
There are somethings in life where you just shake your head and say, "Dude... That's just wrong."
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32058 Posts
June 20 2011 19:36 GMT
#84
On June 21 2011 03:31 DeepCorrupted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 03:30 tenacity wrote:
Have you ever had a girlfriend before?


better answer would be i've had 2 and A LOT of things with girls


things being buying jewelry for women that do nothing for you or what??
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DeepCorrupted
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States84 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 19:39:05
June 20 2011 19:37 GMT
#85
On June 21 2011 04:36 Hawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2011 03:31 DeepCorrupted wrote:
On June 21 2011 03:30 tenacity wrote:
Have you ever had a girlfriend before?


better answer would be i've had 2 and A LOT of things with girls


things being buying jewelry for women that do nothing for you or what??


more like girls i liked and that liked me but really never ended well for the following reasons:

they are lying bitches
they are bitches
they are liars


yeup. pretty much...

edit: haha well not really like those but it never ended very well. for one girl, she could never make up her mind and when i tried i guess it'd be "getting comfortable" like talking wise not physcially.. she would like back off and it'd be like are you kidding me? how much space do i have to give you? and so bleh. idk what im saying. i'm so tired atm.
There are somethings in life where you just shake your head and say, "Dude... That's just wrong."
QooQ
Profile Joined February 2011
United States96 Posts
June 20 2011 19:41 GMT
#86
more like girls i liked and that liked me but really never ended well for the following reasons:

they are lying bitches
they are bitches
they are liars


My answer is D all of the above. Most girls are D, all of the above.



Bitter much?
DeepCorrupted
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States84 Posts
June 20 2011 19:42 GMT
#87
On June 21 2011 04:41 QooQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
more like girls i liked and that liked me but really never ended well for the following reasons:

they are lying bitches
they are bitches
they are liars


My answer is D all of the above. Most girls are D, all of the above.



Bitter much?


very very bitter. like mrbitter lol XDXD i so funny
There are somethings in life where you just shake your head and say, "Dude... That's just wrong."
Vulcano
Profile Joined June 2011
United States147 Posts
June 20 2011 19:42 GMT
#88
On June 21 2011 04:32 SnetteL wrote:
There's only one thing a respectable man can do in your situation to asses the way she feels about you:

1) treat her like shit
2) seduce her best friend / sister
3) analyze how she responds

If she's sad, she liked you, if she's angry you were more like a friend to her and if she doesn't really care about the whole situation she WAS A STUPID BITCH WHO WASNT WORTH YOUR TIME IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Let me know how it went.


haha someone sounds butthurt ! but i quoted because you would need to change one line from the summation..

If she's sad, she liked you, if she's angry you were more like a friend to her and regardless of how she responds, YOU HAVE NOW BLEW IT WHETHER SHE WAS WORTH IT OR NOT MOVE ON AND LEARN TO ACT RIGHT.. lol


Seriously tho -- these steps arent easy but they are true
1)get confidence in and be proud of whatever your qualities are
2)tell her IN SHORT EASY words how you feel ::::: DO NOT give her a schpeel about how you like her but youre nervous and you're not sure what she meant when you and at church but then she sat on my lap and now i is that FLIRTING OR WHAT?!?!?!!?!?.... just b simple.
3)enjoy the relationship as she feels the same, or move past your personal feelings if she doesnt share the sentiment

life goes on
someone set up us the bomb
DeepCorrupted
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States84 Posts
June 20 2011 19:46 GMT
#89
FUCKING DONE. going to bed. night tl
There are somethings in life where you just shake your head and say, "Dude... That's just wrong."
mojojo800
Profile Joined March 2011
United States66 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 20:11:33
June 20 2011 20:08 GMT
#90
Now I have had a VERY similar situation where I was the homeschooled introvert who's goal in life was to become an emo gamer and live out the rest of his life playing Maple Story (THIS WAS BACK IN MY MIDDLE SCHOOL BEFOREEE I GOT INTO SC AND BEFORE I GOT A BRAIN) regardless. There was this one girl who moved in down the street.
She was quite attractive and very nice,
she would always invite me to do stuff,
she would drag me around and intro me to all her friends.
She would intro me to her friends in Japanese and I would ask what she said and they would both just laugh.
She would lean on me at movies, and when I refused to give up my seat at places she would sit on me *this is pretty funny actually how similar, wonder if they were like long lost twins or something lol*
NOW the problem became when I did ask her out *5 months after we started really hanging out a lot* I missed the moment. She said that she liked me but after I became just a good friend.

SO I KNOW YOU ARE SHY AND NERVOUS! But, NOT A DAY GOES BY THAT I WISH THAT I ASKED HER OUT SOONER TTTT__TTTTT.... jk but really it took its toll, it is much better to be rejected than to never know or find out you were too late.
GL HF!

Edit: since your mind is made up, just take what I said as encouragement that she probably likes you and congrats on having more balls than many people, my past self included .
ALSO be sure to post pics of you two if it is a success ;p
If you think its underpowered then you're doing it wrong
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
June 20 2011 21:01 GMT
#91
Girls are hard to understand because if they weren't we'd have them all figured out and we'd only play StarCraft.
You're a man, so man up and take the initiative. It's what girls want, for men to pursue them. Even if she doesn't like you it'll be flattering for her to now there's someone that takes the chance. The men are as initiative as their looks allow them, if you're aware of this you can take advantage of it and take the initiative even though you're shy for whatever reason.
En Taro Violet
UFO
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
582 Posts
June 20 2011 21:05 GMT
#92
Bullshit dispensed like fire hydrants uncapped.

No one will be able to bring you any meaningful understanding about girls as long as you are unable to develop trust in your own perceptions and even if you somehow developed that, it matters only to a degree you understand yourself.

Understand your feelings, thoughts and beliefs. If you only understand this, you can rightfully claim possesing self-mastery for then you are able to see reality as it is.

I would invite you to ponder on how simplisitc and surface-level most of the suggestions you get there really are, how rigid and schematic they are, how they ignore a tremendous amount of variables and factors that need to be taken into account in order to make a precise and truthful assessment.

The very title of your blog, your very first point, do you not see how misguided it is ? It is absolutely understandable and take no offense in this statement. Nonetheless, it is of ignorance. There is no such thing as "girls are so hard to understand". Girls aren`t hard or easy to understand. It is your subjective perception and you treat it as if it was reality.

The only real and meaningful understanding is the understanding of the truth and truth is not found on internet forums, websites, books, lectures, words of masters or teachers, others beliefs, suggestions nor in any of the hundred other places where it is sought. This is not to say that these are useless. This means that these do not constite the interpretative center and if you place your interpretative center and trust in these, you will feed yourself with illusions and develop ignorance.

Do not trust any of the suggestions from externals and, of course, this includes this suggestion. Their suggestions are mere ingredients and you need to estimate their value in regard to how they help you to understand yourself. They can be helpful and supportive but they can be deceptive and harmful.

Your trust is of priceless value. Place it wisely. Place it in yourself, for you are the only one to whom your trust truly belongs. The moment you rely on externals to bring you understanding, you begin falling and you give away the right to decide your fate, which is your birthright.

Its perfectly fine to ask others for advice when you hit a wall that defines your current capabilities. However, there is a world of difference between asking for advice in order to aid your ability to teach yourself and asking for advice in order for it to bring you understanding.

Dissolve what you think you know or understand. Dissolve what you were taught to believe. Dissolve assumptions. Dissolve habits. Dissolve what you think about yourself and your identity. Dissolve these, for they are not of truth, they do not lead to truth, the conceal the truth.

There is no pathway to truth. Deep within you is a place where there is no conditioning. No teachings. No knowledge. No ambitions. No expectations. No assumptions. No theories. No beliefs.

It is there where real understanding dwells. Listen to this. Even if it is not known to you or otherwise tested, it will serve you better than any outside source.
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
June 20 2011 21:15 GMT
#93
^ This guy sounds creepy.

In other news, I think you should try to get her to a noraebang and feed her alcohol-infused fruits until she is senseless. Then take her clothes off, take lots of incriminating photos, and threaten to sell the photos to Korean gangsters unless she does what you want. Then tell her you want her to be your girlfriend. If she says yes, she liked you and you did the right thing. If she says no, then you should try to charge back the noraebang bill from your credit card. If that doesn't work, sell the photos to make your money back.

Maero
Profile Joined December 2007
349 Posts
June 20 2011 21:26 GMT
#94
Hahaha, this is pretty much the cutest blog I've ever read :p

She likes you, go ahead and ask her out.
ILOVEKITTENS
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Korea (South)112 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 21:42:52
June 20 2011 21:30 GMT
#95
This post is going to be long, so I am going to do a TL;DR at the start:

This girl doesn't like you, she is just a nice person. Your hopeful lonely heart made a collage of memories from the past 4 years that make it seem like she has interest in you, but isolated events tied with a string of infatuation are wholly irrelevant. In fact, if she did like you, I would NOT suggest going out with her, because the person that she likes right now (YOU), is unfit for a relationship. It is unhealthy to date people who want to date (socially) unhealthy people.

How do you rectify your situation? Let's see:

I am going to summarize your post, that way you might see some of your absurdity for yourself.

  • You turn to TL in times of personal strife.
  • You are a person with low confidence.
  • You ask people who know less than you about your personal situation to qualify your feelings.
  • You have known this girl for 3-4 years.
  • You are probably in high school or somewhere thereabout (if I read your timeline correctly).
  • You are both church-goers.
  • You are Korean.


Now let's analyze this objectively, point by point.

1. You lack close personal connections with people, and thus turn to TL for girl-talk. When I was your age I knew this girl, she was a bit infatuated with me for a bit when we were young, but as the years rolled by we became friends. I talked to her about my girl troubles because she would listen and give me good advice, from the girls' mentality. My best friend and I were always analyzing our approaches and relationships with women. You need a friend, not a forum.

2. This in turn will help you get more confidence. Humans are social creatures. Are you sub-human? Because you don't seem like a social creature to me. More friends -> more social approval -> more confidence -> get some. Being around people makes you better at being around people. Who would have thought?

3. To illustrate this point, your confidence is so low that you don't even believe in your own judgment of your own life. You ask oblivious people on a gaming website, thereby insuring that the majority of your target audience is just as introverted and socially feeble as you. This can only be a result of the camel realizing that it only takes one more straw to break its back - you realizing that even one more day of living with no open proximity and you might lose it. You are desperate. You can't think straight. You turn to the worst possible source for support. The more I analyze, the more I want to ip trace you and google your name every day waiting for your name to come up on obituaries. Grave stuff man.

4. You have known this girl for FOUR YEARS and you suspect her of having feelings for you for that long? Most relationships don't last even 1/10th of that time at your age, and you think that she has maintained interest in you despite what appears to be absolutely 0 feedback from you? What makes you so damn charming, and how can I be like you?

5. You are young. Young and foolish. Although you should have surmised this as my opinion of you due to the above points, it serves purpose to reiterate it again. This is the time to make mistakes and live a little, because guess what, when you go to college your high school relationships can lose all meaning to you if you want them to. Any fuck ups, humiliation, or degradation you went through in that time is irrelevant save for the experience they gave you, the lessons they taught you, and how you use that information to guide your life in a more profitable direction. In 5 years, you will look back at this time and regret never making a move. Or you will look back and be like "fuck that bitch, cold-pussy skank that didn't put out" because you will realize that on the grand scale of things, this girl will most likely have 0 importance to you in the long-term. Except, once again, for the experience you gain from actually, you know, INTERACTING with her and getting personal.

6. Has it ever struck you that church is potentially the worst place to meet chicks? Any moments you two have at this church are in the presence of adults, parents, and God. Hardly the people you want to be around when you are trying to mack on a bitch. Likewise, it is the same vice-versa. I doubt she is doing any of the things you listed with ulterior seductive motives, but we'll get to that.

7. I don't mean to be racist but I am very familiar with Korean culture and parenting styles, and the fact that you are Korean makes this blog almost redundant, because your issues are the issues fostered by one of the prevalent Korean mentalities - shame, inadequacy, and lack of confidence. The first step to breaking out of it is recognizing it.


Now, lets move on to your purported evidence of her intimate desires.
  • She saw you being depressed and cheered you up.
  • She invited you to an amusement park, where she bought you a pair of swimming shorts.
  • She asked you to buy her jewlery.
  • Her mom was being awkward about you not having a girlfriend when the girl was in the room.
  • You dick her out of her fair seat and she puts her body weight on you to force discomfort.

At least at the end of your post you realize how stupid all of this is.

Let me analyze your proof now, point by point:

1. A person cheering someone up is an indicator of a good-natured person, not a sign of interest. I think that you are so low on yourself that any attention seems like a miracle. Apparently not many people try to cheer you up when you seem depressed, so when people DO, you feel like they care about you. They might. But they probably don't. It's something called "being friendly." In fact, this is probably one of the quintessential "friend" gestures.

2. At this point, going off of 1. above, I can't help but feel that she has a LOT of pity for you. Not interest. PITY. I know that I have pity for you after reading this post. I imagine people IRL will have even more, even if they don't know that you go on a StarCraft website for dating advice. Here's a fun little thought experiment: How do you think SHE would react if she read what you wrote here? Do you think she would come out and say "YES, all of these events sprinkled over the past few years are the subliminal messages I have been sending to you, so that you might muster the balls to do something about it?" I doubt it. I think she will have more pity on you. Pity is the absolute worst starting block for any relationship, ever. The fact that she has known you for 3-4 years doesn't work in your favor, it actually works against you - in that whole time you have not had the balls to do ANYTHING about her. She probably sees you as a non-factor in her romantic life. If there was a girl you talked to for 4 years, but she never showed any romantic interest in you, would your radar even blip when you saw her every weekend at Church? Oh wait...

3. She asked you to buy her jewelry from her home country, which you were going to anyway, which is known for its fashion climate. You are seriously grasping at straws here.

4. Okay, this one can be deceptive, but wrap your head around this - parents do that shit all the time. They like to put their kids in uncomfortable and funny situations. Especially Asian parents. Asian parents can be master trolls. One time this girl's mom was driving me home after we hung out at her house for the better part of the day (we were 17 at the time), and on the way back she kept saying things like "Why doesn't Jessica have a boyfriend? Isn't she beautiful? Look at her boobs, they are nicer than mine ever were when I was her age!" while Jessica was in the fucking front seat. Whatever validity there is behind the romantic nature of the conversation you had, it is in the girl's twisted mom's mind.

5. This one is also deceptive. It might seem like she is flirting with you. To be perfectly blunt, you dicking her out of her seat in that manner is not really flirting, and if it is in your mind, you're doing it wrong. Her sitting on you could be as much about just her mirroring your passive-aggressive behavior as it could be flirting. Although, given the overall circumstance of your situation, I am leaning towards the former.


So, let's wrap this up now. This isn't about this one girl. It never fucking is. You know why? Because there are close to 4 billion girls out there, and this one isn't that special. She might be special to YOU, but look at YOURSELF. You seem like the kind of person that would cling to any positive attention from the opposite sex like it was unicorn blood giving you eternal life. Before you can do anything about this one girl that you have failed at engaging for YEARS, you need to fix yourself first. I outlined the issues in this post, how you approach them is mostly up to you. You can ignore what I wrote, write it off as some internet jackass spewing hate for more e-cred. Or you could realize that this is the kind of shit that comes from asking people online about things that you need real-life friends for. That you need some confidence for. That you need some tact and self-esteem for. That you need to IMPROVE YOURSELF for.

If truly making yourself a more socially active and capable person is too great of a task, you can always go the way of the Dark Side:

+ Show Spoiler +
On June 20 2011 17:09 ILOVEKITTENS wrote:
Okay I got your back man.

You say you want Korean fob girls, and that they are only attracted to Korean fob guys? And you are Chinese? Follow these steps and you will be eating bibimbap and sexing it to 2 pm in no time.

PART 1: APPEARANCE

Step 1: Attire

Appearance and first impressions are everything. I imagine you know this already, because that is what has garnered the existing amount of success you have with these women (apparently none beyond the occasional eye contact and maybe a joke to one of their close friends later). Think about it logically, here are the rules you have yourself determined from your environment:

1. Korean girls go for Korean dudes
2. Korean girls ignore other dudes
3. Korean girls ignore you

What does this mean? It means that you need to become a Korean dude. This is a lot easier than it sounds. All you have to do is go here and get some trendy, tight-fitting stuff. Remember, accessories are essential. Nothing says "I'm so fob my semen tastes like kimchi" like some manly accessories. Bracelets, necklaces. sunglasses, a poppin' watch, some sort of belt clip or strap that screams Seoul. Basically, look at these pictures and any kpop celebrity.

Picture 1
Picture 2

Must haves:
  • Ironic and Konglish graphic T's. Bright colors with high contrast a plus.
  • Cardigans. Many cardigans.
  • Shoes. Many shoes. Different shoes. Semi-formal loafers, poofy sneakers with perpetually untied laces, all-star imitations.
  • Sunglasses that a blind person would wear. To become blinder.
  • Skinny, curved jeans with artificial wear-marks, creases, and fades.


Being sexy is rarely cheap. Sometimes you have to sell your soul for it. I have given up more for Korean pussy in my day, though, so I say you should spend at least half of your life savings on this transformation (if you have less than $1k in the bank you have to fix that first before you can hope to get a 'fob' girl, they love shopping).

Also, make sure the clothes you buy match. Just because a top looks good and a pair of jeans look good, doesn't mean they will work together. Same goes for all your accessories. Which is why you need many, many, many articles of everything. If they catch you wearing the same-ass outfit every week, you can forget your dreams of spicy katsu pussy.


Step 2: Haircut

A brief google search shows an observable trend: most famous, young, and attractive Korean men fall into one of a few hair archetypes.

There is the "Anime isn't just for Japs" haircut.

The "I spent 15 minutes to make my hair look messier" look.

The typical Asian spike helmet.

The "I would be an emo kid if I wasn't too fuckin cool for it" haircut.

As you can see, most of these require medium-to-long hair, so you probably will have to go with the spikes until your hair grows out long enough for you to choose one of the above that suits your facial structure the best. I would suggest going with either the Anime or Emo archetypes if your Chinese heritage is too obvious.

Most essential part of this is:

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If it's not Gatsby, they will know. They can smell it. Trust me.


Step 3: Fitness

In case you haven't noticed, most Korean 'fob' guys are slim at best, devastatingly thin at worst. I don't want to go into too much detail here because I don't know what your body shape is like, but to wear tight-fitting contour dress shirts with rolled up sleeves and skinny jeans, you need to be thin. Otherwise you look like a sad wanna-be in denial, like those fat girls at parties that have their saggy cleavage exposed to the midriff because they deluded into thinking any part of them can be aesthetically pleasing. Except even drunk Korean girls won't hit on you. True story.

Step 4: Finishing touches

Cigarettes. All Korean fobs smoke cigarettes. Get in the habit of it. Better be Asian import cigarettes, too. Otherwise you are getting white-washed in their eyes. This will also help you with your anorexic endeavor to fit into 28 waist girl jeans marketed to men that must be eunuchs.

That distant hazy look that makes you seem wholly disinterested in everything.

Acquire a direct but an un-intrusive walking style. Nothing says that you just got a fake driver's license at your local Korean church than the fact that you don't want to have anything to do with anyone, and the way to portray that is by walking from a to b as directly an unconfrontationally as possible. Because there be AMERICANS about. Shibal kissekyo.


PART 2: MENTALITY

So, you must think that you're almost a Korean fob already. You might even start thinking or acting like one. And you are right - you already have 90% of the attributes that define this sub-class of human being. However, the selling point is how you approach your new skin. If you were trying to be a goth kid, even if you had all the chains and black nail polish that you could buy from Spencer's, you wouldn't be accepted at the next morbid gathering of self-imposed depression with a grin on your face and a sparkle in your eye. The same idea applies here. It's like an actor, in a movie - you are not playing a role, you ARE the role. The sooner you believe it, the sooner they will. How successful you are at this point is purely dependent on how much effort you are willing to put in. Here are some approaches:

1. Learn some basic Korean and Korean slang. This shouldn't be that hard after Chinese. This will help sell your image. You should say that you moved to some foreign country when you were young, though, so your Korean is limited. I would go with some obscure European country that probably has good shopping and an obscure culture that will make you unique. Like Sweden. That way you can pretend to know a language they don't know, that isn't Asian (all Asian people hate Asian people from other Asian countries, but that is obvious). Exotic.

2. Speak less and choose your words carefully. Speaking too much is a sign that you care too much. Being overly excited or hateful towards something does too. You are only allowed to hate all things Americans, Chinese, Japanese, and bad clothes/accessories/hairstyles from now on. Everything else is to be treated with indifference.

4. Study up on your kpop. You can't be left out of the loop - the media is your source for everything. Latest styles, gossip, suicides, everything. Here you go.

5. The same disinterest they showed to you - that is how you have to treat them, at first at least. No more of that... Wait you're not white, so I can't say yellow fever... Well, anyway, you know what I am talking about. The second you show them that you want them badly, they know that you are not worth their time, because any man that gives them so much attention is clearly below them.

I hope this helps. FIGHTING!


*Note: You actually have a head-start on this because you are Korean.

Good luck. FIGHTING!
whitelly
Profile Joined May 2011
Czech Republic50 Posts
June 20 2011 21:56 GMT
#96
Yep does not even try that.Or try that but do not ask for advices over internet.That is bad thing.And most of all?Stop giving a f about anything.Just go there and say something.Do something crazy.Act like your self.She is just one girl,you are worth much more.

And.Do not buy any freaking jewelry.If she need that before anything,Dump her.
Servius_Fulvius
Profile Joined August 2009
United States947 Posts
June 20 2011 22:03 GMT
#97
Holy crap, Kittens is winning the girl blogs today!

I'll be a lot more succinct. You can spend a lifetime trying to figure someone out. Don't. If you like her this much then do something about it. Hopefully the large writeup made it easier to grow a pair and ask the girl on a date. If she says yes: awesome! If she says no: you can stop obsessing over her every action. Simple.
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
June 20 2011 22:37 GMT
#98
Why are girls so hard to understand?

There has been much research into this and as of now we at the Neurological Evaluation Research Diversion are no closer to finding an answer.

We suspect it has to do with their high concentration of sucrose and cinnamon but this is yet to be proven. Some say that our interplanetary translator is not up to scratch but we have the engineers to thank for that.

The research continues and I will update this as soon as I have an answer. Until then suffer my brothers...
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
June 20 2011 23:16 GMT
#99
--- Nuked ---
DeepCorrupted
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States84 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 23:33:29
June 20 2011 23:21 GMT
#100
There are somethings in life where you just shake your head and say, "Dude... That's just wrong."
N3rV[Green]
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1935 Posts
June 20 2011 23:22 GMT
#101
ILOVEKITTENS strikes again.....this wisdom flows from this one.
Never fear the darkness, Bran. The strongest trees are rooted in the dark places of the earth. Darkness will be your cloak, your shield, your mother's milk. Darkness will make you strong.
hazelynut
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2195 Posts
June 21 2011 00:10 GMT
#102
Wow, perfect post from ILOVEKITTENS. Only thing I would add or contest is that girls do flirt / be nice on purpose. Girls like attention -> girls flirt without liking you -> travesty for the guy who thinks the girl has feelings for him.
Zerg | life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery | www.cstarleague.com <3
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
June 21 2011 00:45 GMT
#103
HAHAHA the "FIGHTING!" at the end of his posts kill me lololol
blabberrrrr
god_forbids
Profile Joined October 2010
United States111 Posts
June 21 2011 10:00 GMT
#104
Jeezus, ILOVEKITTENS. Don't I know you from the TuckerMax.com forums or somewhere? Way to own nerd insecurities all over TL.
Junkka: "I prepared this" Protoss hwaiting!!!
nihoh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia978 Posts
June 21 2011 11:16 GMT
#105
ILK pro psychiatrist.
Dont look at the finger or you will miss all that heavenly glory.
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