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DarkwindHK
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong343 Posts
June 09 2011 09:03 GMT
#1
Two students in who are late to the national high level exam (basically the college entrance exam) suicide by jumping off from building yesterday. One of them is 15 minutes late and was not permitted to enter the exam center.

I really cannot understand/agree with ending your own life because you are late or cannot attend an exam. There are so many other things in life that are more important/ more interesting than those exams.

The worse part is, this is only day 1 of the exam....


News link (Chinese)
http://news.google.com.hk/news/story?pz=1&cf=all&ned=hk&cf=all&ncl=ddryHcmfVMpSkDMEcA2Eh9D9nHOYM

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Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
June 09 2011 09:21 GMT
#2
Their system brainwashed them to believe the exam and its consequences were the be-all end-all.
My strategy is to fork people.
Sindri
Profile Joined August 2007
Australia56 Posts
June 09 2011 09:25 GMT
#3
As sad as this is, it shows how important success is in modern society. You say there are more important and more interesting things in life than exams. Of course that's true, but only for those with the means to enjoy those things. For many people from lower class or poor families, getting into a college and getting an education is the only chance they have to be able to enjoy those things. Without it, the rest of their existence is doomed to a life of poverty and constant struggle while others get to enjoy those wonderful things in life. I've heard this is especially the case in China where the difference in life quality between the rich and poor is very extreme. Try telling a homeless person on the street how wonderful it is to have a girlfriend or travel overseas or playing Starcraft 2.

Still, I'm unfamiliar with the education system in China, but couldn't they have retaken it later?
mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
June 09 2011 09:25 GMT
#4
Fuck the system.
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Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
June 09 2011 09:31 GMT
#5
It really shouldn't be hard for any student to relate to their situation. Most people, myself included, feel moments in their school career that everything is just so overwhelming. This is just my experience from the american school and university system.

I can't imagine what it would be like for those students with all the pressure from their families, and they basically just found out that they completely failed and disgraced their family.
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Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
June 09 2011 10:02 GMT
#6
Wow, this is just really unfortunate :/
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
June 09 2011 10:05 GMT
#7
its not only the system.
The asian expectation from parents and family
The stress during the exam prepare period
......... this is so common in any asian countries, especially Japanese where just a few years ago there are a mass suicide from students who studying for university entrance exams.
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Kickboxer
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Slovenia1308 Posts
June 09 2011 10:10 GMT
#8
There is no struggle if you're not completely brainwashed by capitalism and "competition". Although it's true that family upbringing sometimes leaves one no choice, especially in Asian families it would seem. Which is rather sad.

People seriously need to understand that what others think of them is completely irrelevant and that owning a bunch of entirely useless things like a good car or an iPad matters even less.

Here is a list of things you can do without practically any money or the "best" education:

Read amazing books
Make music, paint, write, sculpt, sing
Play games
Train sports
Enjoy nature
Sex
Honest friendship
Invent stuff

Here is a list of things you can do with tons of money and the "best" education:

Work all day every day
Buy stuff
Buy some more stuff
Buy even more stuff because someone else did
Pretend you are better than others
Travel (this one is actually worthwhile).

I wonder which of the two is more personally fulfilling and "real".
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
June 09 2011 10:12 GMT
#9
On June 09 2011 19:10 Kickboxer wrote:
There is no struggle if you're not completely brainwashed by capitalism and "competition". Although it's true that family upbringing sometimes leaves one no choice, especially in Asian families it would seem. Which is rather sad.

People seriously need to understand that what others think of them is completely irrelevant and that owning a bunch of entirely useless things like a good car or an iPad matters even less.

Here is a list of things you can do without practically any money or the "best" education:

Read amazing books
Make music, paint, write, sculpt, sing
Play games
Train sports
Enjoy nature
Sex
Honest friendship
Invent stuff

Here is a list of things you can do with tons of money and the "best" education:

Work all day every day
Buy stuff
Buy some more stuff
Buy even more stuff because someone else did
Pretend you are better than others
Travel (this one is actually worthwhile).

I wonder which of the two is more personally fulfilling and "real".


here is a list of things you can do without money:

Read amazing books
Make music, paint, write, sculpt, sing
Play games
Train sports
Enjoy nature
Sex
Honest friendship
Invent stuff

here is a list of things you can do with money:

Read amazing books
Make music, paint, write, sculpt, sing
Play games
Train sports
Enjoy nature
Sex
Honest friendship
Invent stuff
Work all day every day
Buy stuff
Buy some more stuff
Buy even more stuff because someone else did
Pretend you are better than others
Travel (this one is actually worthwhile).
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
Kickboxer
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Slovenia1308 Posts
June 09 2011 10:19 GMT
#10
Not if you are dead because you missed an exam...
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
June 09 2011 10:24 GMT
#11
Seeing as how nearly all the things you listed, Kickboxer, are a luxury that many people cannot enjoy, how do you suggest that one makes music when they have no money. There is a time cost involved. If you have no money you can't spend time doing art because you have to spend that time trying to acquire the necessary goods you need for your survival. The wealthier person will have far more time to spend doing all the things you listed.

And rofl, you think someone can do any art without any money? Hello? Are you even aware how much costs go into instruments? Paint, canvas, brushes, they all cost money. Canvases cost a load of money. I'm not even going to touch sculpting.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
June 09 2011 10:25 GMT
#12
On June 09 2011 19:19 Kickboxer wrote:
Not if you are dead because you missed an exam...

What does this have to do with the price of tea in China?
Daigomi
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
South Africa4316 Posts
June 09 2011 10:27 GMT
#13
Something I realised fairly recently regarding suicides like these is that they are not just because the person can't do what they wanted to do. I always thought it was strange that people who lose 90% of their worth on the stock market commit suicide even though they are still richer than 90% of the population afterwards. I think one of the biggest reasons for committing suicide is that these people sacrifice a lot to get to where they are (be that by studying 24/7 or working 24/7). To see five years worth of suffering become meaningless in an instant is probably the bigger reason for suicide.

Imagine spending every day of your school life studying, getting ridiculed for being a geek, missing out on all the social opportunities and friends because of your studying. Life sucks horribly during school, but it's OK because you're going to get a great job and make-up for those things once you are done at school. Then you miss an exam, and suddenly the majority of your life has sucked for no good reason, and you're not going to make-up for that time either. People shouldn't commit suicide because of it, but I imagine the immediate shock must be pretty rough.
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Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
June 09 2011 10:34 GMT
#14
to be fair i think he means with a modest amount of money, not no money at all
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
Kaonis
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States243 Posts
June 09 2011 10:37 GMT
#15
On June 09 2011 19:27 Daigomi wrote:
Something I realised fairly recently regarding suicides like these is that they are not just because the person can't do what they wanted to do. I always thought it was strange that people who lose 90% of their worth on the stock market commit suicide even though they are still richer than 90% of the population afterwards. I think one of the biggest reasons for committing suicide is that these people sacrifice a lot to get to where they are (be that by studying 24/7 or working 24/7). To see five years worth of suffering become meaningless in an instant is probably the bigger reason for suicide.

Imagine spending every day of your school life studying, getting ridiculed for being a geek, missing out on all the social opportunities and friends because of your studying. Life sucks horribly during school, but it's OK because you're going to get a great job and make-up for those things once you are done at school. Then you miss an exam, and suddenly the majority of your life has sucked for no good reason, and you're not going to make-up for that time either. People shouldn't commit suicide because of it, but I imagine the immediate shock must be pretty rough.


that... actually startled me with how obviously right it is.
Nevermind.
GGitsJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
New Zealand426 Posts
June 09 2011 10:42 GMT
#16
=/ Lucky I'm in new zealand now
"A reason becomes an excuse if you don't do anything about it."
Sindri
Profile Joined August 2007
Australia56 Posts
June 09 2011 10:45 GMT
#17
On June 09 2011 19:10 Kickboxer wrote:


Read amazing books
Make music, paint, write, sculpt, sing
Play games
Train sports
Enjoy nature
Sex
Honest friendship
Invent stuff



And how are you going to afford games, internet and a computer to play these games? How are you going to attract a woman and have sex with no money to even buy them dinner or impress them in some fashion? How can someone invent stuff without materials that often require currency to acquire or travel expenses to explore? How exactly are you going to do most of that stuff if you don't even have a roof over your head?

It really depends on location and circumstances, but as difficult as it might be for some of the more privelaged to understand, in some areas, the average wage of people without a college education is lower than the bare minimum cost of living for shelter, food and utilities. In most areas, most of that stuff requires money and is a luxury most can't afford over necessities. Sad but true.
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
June 09 2011 10:47 GMT
#18
women are only interested in love duh
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
yosisoy
Profile Joined October 2010
Israel202 Posts
June 09 2011 10:48 GMT
#19
If something is important enough for you to kill yourself over being late for.. might as well sleep there the night before.

I blame the parents.
In Soviet Russia, sorrow harvest you
Warble
Profile Joined May 2011
137 Posts
June 09 2011 10:50 GMT
#20
On June 09 2011 18:21 Severedevil wrote:
Their system brainwashed them to believe the exam and its consequences were the be-all end-all.


Since it's a Chinese news link I assume this happened in China. In China, these exams are the be-all end-all. A kid his lived his whole life for this moment.

What did you think happened to those who failed these exams?
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