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A Year in Solitude: Prelude

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munchinghippo
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada24 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-12 23:08:05
June 05 2011 23:47 GMT
#1
Hello fellow members of TL. Although I've played SCBW before and one game of SCII through my friends, I no longer play either of those games. However, ever since my friends introduced me to TL, I've been a regular visitor/lurker browsing through many of its interesting threads.

The reason that I'm starting a blog here on TL is not an effort to socialize and connect with my TLers. In fact, it's the very opposite. This will be a blog about my attempt to socially isolate myself from the rest of the world for a full year (365 24-hour days). Now you may be asking yourself why I would be so crazy as to do this. After moving to a new city to attend university, I've already been minimizing much of my day-top-day social interactions and the only means of socialization I really had was talking to my old high school friends through Skype. Making new friends at the U wasn't as easy as ABC's and even when I had a couple "acquaintances", it really didn't feel like I was connecting with them at all. When I got tired of the usual routine of "Hello, my name is so and so... and you are?" along with a whole bunch of other meaningless routine questions to introduce myself to others, I asked myself why I'm doing this. Was it because social connections were an essential element to one's survival as a human being? Was it something essential to maintain mental health?

Which lead me to the ultimate question: "Do I need to be dependent on others for my psychological well-being?"

I had this thought for a while, but decided not to do anything about it. However, having an extremely impulsive nature, I decided to do something extreme. I wanted to see if I could withstand, be unaffected by, or even gain a positive result out of isolating myself from the rest of society.

TL;DR===>start here

I'm going to carry out an experiment in which I will try my best to minimize my social interactions in every aspect for a full-year. This will be done in order to measure effects of social isolation on mental health and as a test to my willpower. I have not yet decided when to start counting down my 365 days, but I will post it here as an edit later on when I do. I will also post a set of conditions, I will impose on myself in order to isolate myself from society (since some level of interpersonal interaction will exist between myself and the rest of humankind, these conditions will help me limit the extent to which I interact with fellow humans and to minimize those interactions as much as possible without endangering my survival). Several conditions will have to be made in order to make an operational definition for "social isolation," so it'd be helpful if you guys can think of some and post it here!

e.g. Subject must not communicate to others, whether it be verbal or some other means of communication, his emotions or opinions regarding any given topic. An example of what the subject should not do is shown in the short dialogue below:

Person A: How was your day today Subject A?
Subject A: It was horrible! I was late for my class and that mean old professor wouldn't even let me in!

End of dialogue.

The content of this blog will basically be my day-to-day journal entries (unless I'm too busy) for the 365 days spent in social isolation. The journal entries themselves will mostly consist of my daily introspection and a record of my productivity (for whatever I was doing that day). I will try to improve on the experiment by setting some empirical means to measure productivity/motivation/mental health in order to record the effects of social isolation on different aspects of human life/my life. I think my Psych professor could help me with this bit and you TLers can contribute to this too!
*Brain imaging perhaps...? I really have no idea on how to deal with this yet >_>*

I know it will be extremely hard to socially isolate myself while living in a busy city, attending university and sharing an apartment with my brother, but I hope I can set solid conditions in which the effects of possible social interactions in those circumstances can be minimized.

List of conditions for the subject in social isolation:

(To be updated later)

Edit: I talked to my psych. prof. today and he said he'll help me suitable people to help me work on this as an experiment/case study! I'll have more updates on Thursday, but I think this is going to take a bit more time for preparation than I had initially thought of (preparation for this would probably consist of explaining what I'm doing to my family/close friends/others among other things).

Edit(July 13th): I'm scrapping this idea for another day because of many complications =/
Among the few main reasons are that my professor did not respond to my e-mail regarding the matter--which means I have no one to help me set this up as a legitimate experiment to maybe help my academic career in any way whatsoever--and because as someone has mentioned, it would be more interesting to do this sort of thing after I obtain many more social relations. I might revisit this idea some time later, but for the time being, this will be cast aside and I am thinking of blogging about horribly boring ideas that I think of on a daily basis.<===philosophical junk that none of my peers are willing to hear to the end.



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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
June 05 2011 23:49 GMT
#2
I love you Hippo.
God Bless
vitruvia
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada235 Posts
June 05 2011 23:54 GMT
#3
he won't know the meaning of love after a year.
what quote?
KrAzYfoOL
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Australia3037 Posts
June 05 2011 23:58 GMT
#4
I think you'd be better off pulling a Christopher McCandless, if you want to achieve absolute social isolation.
It's better to burn out than to fade away
ClysmiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2192 Posts
June 06 2011 00:02 GMT
#5
Uh, this is a social experiment? Deliberately avoiding having a social life is not the best idea in my opinion D:
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6638 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 00:08:32
June 06 2011 00:06 GMT
#6
On June 06 2011 08:58 KrAzYfoOL wrote:
I think you'd be better off pulling a Christopher McCandless, if you want to achieve absolute social isolation.

Except actually properly prepare yourself so you don't end up dead within months. But that is a ridiculously extreme measure and quite a commitment, plus how would you inform TL of your progress?!
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
June 06 2011 00:14 GMT
#7
1 year - no problem.

10 years - big problem.

It's kinda like how long you can go without sleep, for a little while it's no problem and in this context - one year is a "little while". From what i've heard you'll become an emotional mess though (Ming @WoM did something quite similar to this and ended up crying at Naruto) and it's not recommended.

Another important thing to note is that this is quite different from the frustration i imagine you'd feel on an uninhabited island. Having the option to return right there will take the edge off of this and keep your consciousness pretty clear.
munchinghippo
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada24 Posts
June 06 2011 00:22 GMT
#8
On June 06 2011 09:06 jello_biafra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 08:58 KrAzYfoOL wrote:
I think you'd be better off pulling a Christopher McCandless, if you want to achieve absolute social isolation.

Except actually properly prepare yourself so you don't end up dead within months. But that is a ridiculously extreme measure and quite a commitment, plus how would you inform TL of your progress?!


As long as it's a one-way communication, I don't think it should have any implications on the experiment... and maybe I'll prevent myself from reading the comments too (once the experiment starts that is) =D
huameng
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1133 Posts
June 06 2011 00:24 GMT
#9
On June 06 2011 09:02 ClysmiC wrote:
Uh, this is a social experiment? Deliberately avoiding having a social life is not the best idea in my opinion D:


An antisocial experiment, maybe.

I think studies about solitary confinement in prisons show that there is significant evidence doing this long term will seriously fuck you up. That has some major confounding factors though, so maybe it will go different. You could probably start with those and do some research on the subject if you wanted to find out how they keep track of those mental health/productivity measures you want, or find some similar studies closer to what you want to do to yourself.

GLHF~
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munchinghippo
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada24 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 01:13:07
June 06 2011 01:11 GMT
#10
On June 06 2011 09:24 huameng wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 09:02 ClysmiC wrote:
Uh, this is a social experiment? Deliberately avoiding having a social life is not the best idea in my opinion D:


An antisocial experiment, maybe.

I think studies about solitary confinement in prisons show that there is significant evidence doing this long term will seriously fuck you up. That has some major confounding factors though, so maybe it will go different. You could probably start with those and do some research on the subject if you wanted to find out how they keep track of those mental health/productivity measures you want, or find some similar studies closer to what you want to do to yourself.

GLHF~


Yeah... I do realize the potential risks to my mental health and a host of other problems that could arise from this, but this is something I've already given some thought to, and nothing's final. Also, if anything, I could pull out from this any time I wanted to. Regarding studies about solitary confinement, I think that has many major confounding factors as you mentioned... for one... I would definitely go insane from being confined... period. Let alone being in a very tiny concrete box for most of my days and being limited to a very small number of activities among many other limitations/conditions imposed on you in prison would turn me into a human vegetable. Many of these conditions in prisons are ones that I would not be exposed to.

I thought about searching up other studies that have done similar case studies to use as a guideline in order to find some way to measure mental health, etc, but I'm not sure where to start. I'm thinking about asking my psych prof., but if you know any specific studies done in a similar fashion, I'd be glad to receive your help.

Also, thank you for posting the first relevant/serious response to this.
duk3
Profile Joined September 2010
United States807 Posts
June 06 2011 01:15 GMT
#11
So this is a social experiment?
I thought avoiding social interaction was something normal people do.
Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana.
Kujawa
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States137 Posts
June 06 2011 01:18 GMT
#12
better than a hundred years of solitude. anyone read that book fucked up. but the OP i think is thinking profoundly. Go for it keep us posted :D
get the fuck out ball- hot_bid
Qaz
Profile Joined August 2010
84 Posts
June 06 2011 01:33 GMT
#13
This seems rather unhealthy...
Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
June 06 2011 01:52 GMT
#14
I avoided healthy social interaction for 4 months and I was a mess. I seriously think that you will commit suicide if you follow through for the entire year unless of course you quit early.
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
June 06 2011 05:59 GMT
#15
I don't understand how you voluntary try to do that...

Since about 1 1/2 years i'm involuntary in a situation without much social interaction (except from work) and it's not something i would recommend to anyone.

What do you plan on doing on weekends? Holidays? Christmas? Your Birthday?

From experience i can tell you that sitting alone at home on your birthday and on christmas sucks really, really hard. Weekends sitting at home are a constant drain, too, i'm almost happy when i can go to work again (at least until the next dilbertesque situation happens there and destroys my motivation again (so about 5 minutes after i arrive at work on mondays))
munchinghippo
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada24 Posts
June 06 2011 06:03 GMT
#16
I'm not so big on celebrations, so that aspect about social seclusion would be the easiest to deal with. Also, I'm relatively new to this city, so I have very little social obligations (in terms of going to birthday parties, etc).
Dieoxhide
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark53 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 11:14:27
June 06 2011 11:12 GMT
#17
Hmm... sounds like social seclusion will not be a big problem for you.

If you really want to make an interesting study for someone with your mindset, you should really make the reverse experiment: not to be alone for a whole year. Try constantly and frequently to surround yourself with people and get as much human interaction done as possible.
Experience how this affects you. Take notes about your mental health. Try to establish some fundamental principles of interaction in the different social processes in which you will partake, and see how these affects you, the people you are interacting with, as well as the whole situation at hand: your life?

My point is: it is not as interesting to study a person who already has anti-social tendencies to develop these further, as it is to study a person with anti-social tendencies trying to break these anti-social patterns of thought.

It will be a much bigger challenge, but I'll bet it will be more rewarding in the end - both for you personally, but much more importantly for science as well.

GLaDOS out!



(and good luck)
'Ex nihilo nihil fit'
Bajadulce
Profile Joined October 2004
United States322 Posts
June 06 2011 15:32 GMT
#18
Age? I think the modern teenager might have a harder time going 1 year without social connection to the internet than interaction with ppl in our everyday lives lol. I assume no social interaction means not having access to read/write blogs, forums, internet social shit like facebook, cell phones, texting, etc, etc as well?

Longest I've ever been away from human contact is 23 days while camping on a remote surf spot on the Pacific desert (no dog either btw). Finally had to pack it up and head for civilization after water supply ran dangerously low. Your first encounter with another human (more so your first conversation) is an odd feeling. 1 Year without any human contact would definitely have some serious effects even if you weren't "locked" up in a confined space. Being isolated from civilization is a great experience tho and something everyone prob needs in small doses now and then.

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Horrde
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada302 Posts
June 06 2011 15:44 GMT
#19
At least wait for d3 to come out before attempting this. Anything to make this easier.
IamBach
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1059 Posts
June 06 2011 15:51 GMT
#20
I applaud your effort. Gaining independence from the world might not be a bad thing. However, I believe that after a year it would be extremely difficult to go back into society. You would become afraid of the world and maybe never be able to fully go back out into it. I would rather than experimenting with no social interactions experiment with one year of doing exactly what you want to do, rather than what society wants you to do. You would probably be able to gain the same independence without the negative side effects.
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