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Daimai
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden762 Posts
May 13 2011 21:38 GMT
#1
So I have hit some kind of wall. I am a high diamond protoss, defeating midmaster terrans and protoss left and right but when I face zerg I just lose, really hard. No idea what to do.

So then I just thought, if you cant beat them, join them. With the recent infestor buff zerg became even more OP so I am thinking, why not? It will take me a few weeks to learn but I think I will achieve better results and I will prolly get into masters league.

What do you think? Is it worth it to keep going as protoss even though I'm getting rolled by baddie zergs? If so, any tips on how I can play pvz? Any benevolent coaches that can teach me?

Zerg training partners are bad, because, well, they dont know shit about protoss to be frank. They want me to do things that are impossible to beat them etc...

So, what is your opinion?

To pray is to accept defeat.
2WeaK
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada550 Posts
May 13 2011 21:41 GMT
#2
My personal opinion is... Do you enjoy Protoss?
If yes, practice your PvZ, do a little research on the match up, etc... get some builds

If not, switch.

However, if you're sole reason to join Zerg is because they own you, don't you're going to be in a lot of pain because you dread one match up, switching races takes some effort, because you have to relearn new match ups.
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2304 Posts
May 13 2011 21:42 GMT
#3
just wait for bisu to swtich to sc2, then PvZ will be your best match up.
StarCraft & Audax Italiano.
Daimai
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden762 Posts
May 13 2011 21:42 GMT
#4
I enjoy protoss, but I feel I can do way better with zerg and perhaps I'll learn to like it?
To pray is to accept defeat.
Starshaped
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Sweden575 Posts
May 13 2011 21:45 GMT
#5
Play whatever race you enjoy the most.
My Starcraft 2, gaming and e-sports-related blog: http://starshapedthoughts.blogspot.com/
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
May 13 2011 21:50 GMT
#6
Yepyep. Play whatever is fun!
Jaedong :3
Cow
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1104 Posts
May 13 2011 21:59 GMT
#7
What do you play for? Pick whichever race accomplishes that for you.
R.I.P. Nujabes ♫
Philip2110
Profile Joined April 2010
Scotland798 Posts
May 13 2011 22:06 GMT
#8
Play what you find is fun, im a master protoss but i find playing zerg fun so i do it sometimes
Master Sc2 - Diamond LoL - Eu W
WarChimp
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia943 Posts
May 13 2011 22:21 GMT
#9
Play what you like the most. If you like what your playing, then continue. If you feel you can do better as another race and you like said race. Then switch. As usual Teamliquid can't make your mind up for you. Its all up to you.
YejinYejin
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1053 Posts
May 13 2011 22:27 GMT
#10
If you're thinking about it, then sure, do it. I switched races in Brood War about 1.5 years ago. I was playing Protoss, got bored, and switched to Terran because I thought it would be cool. Turns out I liked it, and now I play Terran.

Basically, do whatever the hell you want. :D
안지호
RedJustice
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1004 Posts
May 13 2011 22:32 GMT
#11
If you don't know... try playing team games as zerg for a week and decide if you /like/ it. If you don't like it, why put in the effort to completely learn a new race? Zerg may seem super awesome and like they roll face, but it's vulnerable to lots of early game cheeses and pressure, and it's a different style of playing. You will find all races have particular difficulties. Maybe one suits you better than another. Just find the race you love the most and stick with it.
OpAndroid
Profile Joined July 2010
United States84 Posts
May 13 2011 23:47 GMT
#12
If you switch to zerg, you aren't going to enjoy life so much. You'll lose a lot to stupid all ins and one base plays, and if you do reach the midgame, you'll be up against the wall trying to do 10 different things in order to actually attack someone and have any success. You'll mess up an attack, and a colossus ball will steamroll your entire base, or your mutas will fly into a thor once and a terran will decimate your base. There's a lot of stuff that will go wrong, and its going to take a long time to get to the point where you can feel solid and win games, but hey, go for it man.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
May 13 2011 23:55 GMT
#13
On May 14 2011 08:47 OpAndroid wrote:
If you switch to zerg, you aren't going to enjoy life so much. You'll lose a lot to stupid all ins and one base plays, and if you do reach the midgame, you'll be up against the wall trying to do 10 different things in order to actually attack someone and have any success. You'll mess up an attack, and a colossus ball will steamroll your entire base, or your mutas will fly into a thor once and a terran will decimate your base. There's a lot of stuff that will go wrong, and its going to take a long time to get to the point where you can feel solid and win games, but hey, go for it man.


yeah something like this, whenever something feels really imbalanced, try it from the other side
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
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