• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 02:23
CEST 08:23
KST 15:23
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-69SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-64PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August)14Neeb returns to progaming; rejoins ONSYDE18
StarCraft 2
General
Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Serral wins HomeStory Cup 29 StarCraft 2 at SC4ALL II Invite #4/8 - Percival Protoss AoE skill expression 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start)
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Tasteless Time Warp: SC Evo Showmatch (May 25) SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-6
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory Mutation # 536 Railroad Switch Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance
Brood War
General
Are you ready for ASL 22? NEW HYPE VIDEO BW General Discussion [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60 ASL22 General Discussion Recent recommended BW games
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3 Escore Tournament - Season 3 SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-6
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Diablo 2 thread General RTS Discussion Thread ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Iain M Banks Says He Has Cancer And Months To Live European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The Clem Fan Club INnoVation Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
NBA General Discussion Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
What is a Gamer?
TrAiDoS
Hello guys!
LIN1s
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4191 users

Mechanics... Or? - fourth entry

Blogs > pestilenz
Post a Reply
pestilenz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Denmark379 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 13:48:07
May 02 2011 11:18 GMT
#1
Yo peeps!

Fourth post - the game I found for today was just epic! I have already mentioned my friend ZuQi in the recent post - also this time he will be the evil villain crushing my hopes of ever winning a Starcraft match against him

Intro
+ Show Spoiler +

ZuQi and I have literally played hundreds of games together! He was the one that really motivated me to get better. To understand why that is so you have to know a bit about him. In general he is a great dude irl and online! But because be brags and talks trash over skype when I make mistakes (I have to admit that I too tend to trash talk a bit when he fails - who doesn't!? ), he can be a pain in the ass... Especially if the end result is 14 - 0.... me losing.. ofc

At first, losing so much to him made me a bit sad and I started to consider playing less, or at least less against him - and when he started switching races just because he could, while still beating me it really got om my nerves!

Think about it. If you and a friend was duking it out with some custom games and you both in the beginning went standard builds and he just outplayed you it would be okay. But ZuQi.... no... standard play is for #¤%&! - so he decided to humiliate me with every strategy possible because he could In base barracks, proxy reapers, planetary fortress-rush, nuke-rush, battle cruisers, pure ghost armies, pure viking armies... you just name it and he has probably done it against me

But you know what? You should play for fun, and he clearly did that :D


Well... All these losses would normally make someone stop playing the game, but since I hold grudges, not that it is a good thing, but I do it naturally when it concerns something I enjoy or put lots of time and effort into, I continued with only one goal in mind - to smash him! Actually, if you where in my position I would almost bet you would feel the same. Losing 14-0 is normally not that motivating... in general very demotivating! But when you really want to succeed at it you have to keep on going - NEVER GIVE UP NEVER SURRENDER!!! :D




When in the bronze league everything is a valid strategy. No build sucks and you can win against any player! As long as he does not go banshee, ghosts or dark templars (I lost a lot to those builds) That is a statement I would also like to take to silver - no offense to all the silver players out there, but I seriously do not recall any progress when I moved up in silver... Some would say it sounds pretty sad, but all it took was a some more games with more 2 gate openings into late cybernetics core and 8.30 min warp gate research done. If i remember correctly it took a bit under a week for me to get into silver. I was very happy about it though! But nothing had changed with my play. My mechanics still sucked.


Hotkeys!? Screen capture?! mini-map!? What is that!?

[image loading]

On the picture you can see that i only use 1 hotkey, which in bronze and silver league is sufficient!


As you can see my mechanics actually did not suck, they were not even there! From Brood War I knew about constant worker production, using hotkeys and the mini-map,but there is a big difference between knowing and doing. And i did not really do any of those things - which is illustrated very nicely in some of the games I already have shown you guys, but very much in this game against ZuQi. Sometimes I wonder why I did not use any of the things I knew from Brood war? Well... What is done is done and whatever is eaten is eaten^^


This match is from the 03-09-2010 23.00 on lost temple cross positions. The game opens up pretty standard. No proxies or insane pressure, just chill'd play.
[image loading]



Or is it ?!?!??!
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]
#¤%& him that sneaky bastard



As every other gosu protoss I got out my robotics facility after my second gateway for that key early observer to spot if something fishy was going on. I do not know if this was a thing that normally only happened in the low leagues - but I seriously feel that ZuQi sometimes was a bit to lucky against me -.-
[image loading]


This is just so................
[image loading]


And yes. This is what happens when you only have 22 average apm
[image loading]

[image loading]


Here it is again - and I really do not get how he just keeps on going (later in the game)
[image loading]




Moving on with the game! After the first nuke had landed we were now even in supply - me slightly ahead. I know that sounds weird, but he apparently was not that much better than me^^
ZuQi was gearing up to take one of the islands and the main to my sneaky expansion while I had got my own expansion up and running.

[image loading]

MULE POWER!



As you can see both ZuQi and I transitioned nicely out of the early game. He went mass marauder which is very potent against gateway units, and he must have known that I could not build Immortals because I needed more observers to scout for ghosts! ^^ The game continued and after some nice scouting I found his islands expansion = I went for a warp prism. The problem with this is that you have to have multitasking abilities and look at the mini-map - something a player with bad mechanics does not have -__-

Which means that he loses his whole army while looking at his observer on the island.....
[image loading]




Continuing with the important things in the match! ZuQi had mustered up a big force and was now ready to attack my hidden natural (It can be discussed whether it was hidden when he knew of it, but that is not the important thing right now ;P ). Since he had just cleared out a big part of my forces doing anything else than attacking would make no sense, and he certainly agreed with that. This is perhaps the turning point of the game, a stroke of a genius I would say! Remember the second nuke? That was what took away my focus, because as you can see I was clearly gearing up to attack from two sides at once
[image loading]



After holding of this push I discovered his "ninja-main-natural" - expansion
[image loading]

Hmm.. What is that doing there!??!

Two zealots easily cleared it up, pushing the game a bit back in my favor. Since I had also scouted his "ninja-island" - expansion It was now time to use the warp prism! :D
[image loading]




But then something weird happened... Do not really know the exact details of this decision making, because nothing else was happening in the game :S


+ Show Spoiler +



First of all I believe it is important to note that be panicked and started building millions of turrets!
[image loading]


[image loading]



But then I started to panic?!?! :S
[image loading]



Not just a little but very much!!! I wanted to make another run for it! - I just HAD TO MAKE IT!
[image loading]


[image loading]



But faith would not as I...
[image loading]





ZuQi now had the clear advantage, and I knew the only thing I could do was to get vision off the map so I could not be caught off guard. I made some more observers, now up to a total of six, three in my base to in case of drops or nukes, one in ZuQi's natural and two at my hidden base. But as I figured vision could not win me the game at this point
[image loading]


GG


This is just one of many games like this. It did take some time for me to realize, but some time later things actually started improving.



next post: Starting out with hotkeys

***
You can attack with this?!
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
May 02 2011 11:30 GMT
#2
In complete but nukes are fun to watch :D

You know your problems and so you will most definitely improve!
Jaedong :3
pestilenz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Denmark379 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 14:32:28
May 02 2011 13:49 GMT
#3
Hehe - did you notice the observers when both the nukes happened ?
You can attack with this?!
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Ladder Legends
20:00
Saturday Open #1
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft716
ProTech73
StarCraft: Brood War
Mind 106
NaDa 42
ZergMaN 10
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm213
League of Legends
JimRising 616
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King145
Other Games
summit1g7021
Livibee67
RuFF_SC263
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick690
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 20
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH310
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2246
League of Legends
• Lourlo1351
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
2h 37m
SHIN vs Solar
Rogue vs TBD
OSC
6h 37m
OSC
17h 37m
WardiTV Weekly
1d 4h
The Patches Monday
1d 9h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
PiG Sty Festival
2 days
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
Acropolis #5
RSL Revival: Season 6
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W7
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Escore Tournament S3: W8
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
Thunderpick World Champ.
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.