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platorepublic
United Kingdom344 Posts
I find that I perform much better in 4v4 than in 3v3. Why? I am really not sure. Is it because I am so noob, that 3 pro players could compensate for my sloppiness? Perhaps, but this could also happen to a smaller extent in 3v3. I play with 2 friends of mine in 4v4 random, and we excel with an extra random player. But when we start playing 3v3 team, we lose all the time. What's going on? Sherlock Holmes, please help.   | ||
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Turgid
United States1623 Posts
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platorepublic
United Kingdom344 Posts
On May 02 2011 08:08 Turgid wrote: Honestly 4v4 is a huge coinflip below high diamond ATs in my experience. I made it to like mid-ish diamond as RT and occasionally started facing those TTZP teams with lots of hellions and stupid cannon rushes and stuff and it went from being totally random what happened in the game to just being stupid and not fun. Whatever results you get from 4v4, I'd ignore them. They aren't indicators of anything. I cannot disagree more. There is a pattern for my 3v3 and 4v4 plays. | ||
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Zapdos_Smithh
Canada2620 Posts
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Turgid
United States1623 Posts
On May 02 2011 08:11 platorepublic wrote: I cannot disagree more. There is a pattern for my 3v3 and 4v4 plays. There's a pattern to mine too but I haven't found a way to significantly influence the outcome of a game. Even if you tell your teammates "rush at x time, please use y unit" or omitting the last part and just telling them to rush it's a total coin toss whether they'll actually do it. If you want you could bring a whole arranged team in there, use a good strategy, and make it to the highest rungs of the ladder with relative ease but the skills don't translate well to anything but other team games. If you want your team to do well, use speedlings and lots and lots of hellions. I'm not privy to all of the details of how top 3v3 and 4v4 teams work but that combo, timed and microd correctly, is currently very popular and very strong. Same is true of 2v2 in fact. | ||
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Ghostcom
Denmark4783 Posts
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Dragom
194 Posts
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platorepublic
United Kingdom344 Posts
On May 02 2011 08:38 Dragom wrote: 1 out 3 ppl that actually knows how to play(me) is better than 1 out of 4 ppl that know how to paly So what you are trying to imply is that none of us knows how to play. | ||
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Jimmeh
United Kingdom908 Posts
On May 02 2011 09:09 platorepublic wrote: So what you are trying to imply is that none of us knows how to play. "And by the way, I am top of my class in Oxford, so I never not think. Do you know what Oxford is?" He was trying to say that, in a RT situation, if 2 of your teammates are complete noobs it's better than having 3 complete noob teammates.66% noob team > 75% noob team. It wasn't related to the posters in this thread at all. | ||
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platorepublic
United Kingdom344 Posts
On May 02 2011 09:15 Jimmeh wrote: "And by the way, I am top of my class in Oxford, so I never not think. Do you know what Oxford is?" He was trying to say that, in a RT situation, if 2 of your teammates are complete noobs it's better than having 3 complete noob teammates.66% noob team > 75% noob team. It wasn't related to the posters in this thread at all. Um, "none of us" meant my team. And yes, thanks for boosting my ego. | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
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platorepublic
United Kingdom344 Posts
On May 02 2011 10:06 sung_moon wrote: there's 2 less players? Is this a question or a reply? | ||
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Lyter
United Kingdom2145 Posts
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ShadowDrgn
United States2497 Posts
On May 02 2011 08:08 Turgid wrote: Honestly 4v4 is a huge coinflip below high diamond ATs in my experience. I made it to like mid-ish diamond as RT and occasionally started facing those TTZP teams with lots of hellions and stupid cannon rushes and stuff and it went from being totally random what happened in the game to just being stupid and not fun. Whatever results you get from 4v4, I'd ignore them. They aren't indicators of anything. I have a team in both 3v3 and 4v4 that placed directly into Master league, and every game is a coinflip even there. You're either going to get a tryhard team that 4x 6 pool/megarax/hellion/etc spams you or you get a team of people that just want to mass void rays/BCs or DT rush and generally screw around and have fun. Unfortunately the map pool in both brackets is atrocious and full of maps that are completely indefensible. | ||
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platorepublic
United Kingdom344 Posts
On May 02 2011 10:21 ShadowDrgn wrote: I have a team in both 3v3 and 4v4 that placed directly into Master league, and every game is a coinflip even there. You're either going to get a tryhard team that 4x 6 pool/megarax/hellion/etc spams you or you get a team of people that just want to mass void rays/BCs or DT rush and generally screw around and have fun. Unfortunately the map pool in both brackets is atrocious and full of maps that are completely indefensible. That's not really that random... you could scout that easily and counter these things, I would think. | ||
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ShadowDrgn
United States2497 Posts
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platorepublic
United Kingdom344 Posts
On May 02 2011 10:37 ShadowDrgn wrote: The screw around games, yes, they're free wins. The rush games are auto losses when your team isn't also rushing on most maps, and you're boned if they have more zergs than you. Maps with 2 entrances to every base or ramps that take 6 buildings to wall are swell. See my last blog entry... I was against 4 zergs on my own and had the upper hand in the end. | ||
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