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Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 08:52:30
May 01 2011 13:40 GMT
#1
Well, really, I cried out and screamed thee times "YEEAAASSS!!!" as if Christina Aguilera just proposed to me.

What happened? Well ...

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Since I got placed Gold in the retail version placement, I was afraid to lose this middle-of-the-road status but then got demoted to Silver because I did not improve my play at all while the rest of the ladder players did. In Silver, I resorted to 7RR and at least stabilized somewhat, but played very poor at the end of Season 1 so I got demoted to Bronze for Season 2.

This concerned me. Well I am really not a good player, but Bronze? There is no excuse like "I am actually on Silver level, but I also have a real life and cannot play as much as the kids out there" or "I have an understanding of the game at least for Gold level, but lack of practice so I get outplayed by kids who just act faster".

No, I got placed Bronze. That means, I am on Bronze level, in the worst 20% of the active players. I don't just have some holes in my place or a bit to little practice. I do suck big time. I began to copy the 15H15P but had not much success.

I paid a well-known European zerg an hourly wage to get an hour of coaching and he identified veeery big mistakes in my play and told me with no suger-coating at all. My build order executen: Very poor. My strategies: Junk. For example why did I tech to mutalisks, a harass unit, versus a 1-base terran? As my Baneling-bust did not work, what was the follow-up in my game plan?

After the coaching, I changed my style of play. What then happened is the best experience so far in my SC2 career: I began to notice why I lost or won a game. Before that, my strategy either worked or it did not work. But now I began to play to stack any little gain I could get until I was quite sure that I really can go kill him. Or I don't kill him at all, but let him bleed out so he actually kills himself.

I have more control over the game flow as I could imagine. Of course I still make many mistakes. My old habits of doing a baneling-bust with no proper follow-up, or to forget scouting after early game, or teching wildly with no much reason are still in place. BUT! I also have games where I predicted his strategy based on incomplete information, defended it and won. I have games where I can use map control to such an advantage that just the notice that he is trying to expand there was key to push his main and win.

Even better, my new habit to alway take an early expo versus T and P pays off. In the most recently game I played, I executed my BO very sloppily but still got my expo. Then the Terran had hellions to get control over the watch towers on Xel'Naga caverns. He then pushed with rines, tanks with siege and bunkers. Even with poor micro and the loss of many lings, two queens and a spine crawler – I managed to hold my expansion. He reinforced his contain but I already made roaches, built an inbase-hatch and evolved roach speed. Because I had an expo – not fully saturated, but still – I could afford a lot of units.

This enabled me to break his contain and go on a victory march to his base as he was just trying to expand. My army killed his army, I broke his wall-in on his main and killed his last defenses. He typed "noob" and left the game.

And I got promoted back to Silver.

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You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14175 Posts
May 01 2011 13:57 GMT
#2
I had an experience just like you did a few weeks ago. I was struggling to get into the game after watching so much sc2 and thinking I knew the game and was really good.

I FE'ed and noticed that my opponent (its always terran in epic matches odd) also Fe'd so I rushed for Ht tech so I could go chargelot/Ht and have a huge army of death.

I found his timeing attack coming as soon as charge for me came out and I had a growing rush of zealots coming out as he was coming across the map (Xel'naga) Ht's wer'nt out yet so I knew I had to hold off 4 medivacs + 20 marines and I would say 8ish muraders with pure zealot. So naturally I thought I was fucked and just threw down my chrono on all my wp's left 4 zealots on the other side of the map to snip reinforcements like the pros and pooled the rest of my army half in my mineral line and the other half down the hill where I broke open the route to my third. once he came down into my base and started attacking my natural I selected all my charglots in my mineral line around to the ramp to fake retreating then pivot a-moved straight though his army while my other half of chargelots I selected and A-moved the other way.

Instant mass surround with chargelots and I wanted to watch it fail in my face with glory.

I won as was promoted to gold
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Deja Thoris
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa646 Posts
May 01 2011 14:48 GMT
#3
Grats ) Its always niceto get that promotion as pay off for the effort and improvement you show.
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-01 16:46:27
May 01 2011 16:44 GMT
#4
Yes, I worked for it. And it was fun to feel improvement like: "Oh, just two weeks ago his drop would have worked but now I was able to defend and crush him".

Overall, it is not only winning here and now, it is more to be able to identify reasons for losses and what I could have done better and then win another time.

While "Silver" is nothing really to show off, it is an acknowledgement that I did improve.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
EpykKali
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada5 Posts
May 01 2011 20:45 GMT
#5
Silver is something to show off for us bronzes . I have those holes too, but for some reason I can fix them in 2v2 but not 1v1. So I think I'll get a promotion to silver in 2v2 as well, and my response will probably be a lot like yours!
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