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Atlare
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia893 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-30 02:23:40
April 29 2011 19:07 GMT
#1
Atlare's Power Rank 4/30/2011

All Power Ranks are based on my own opinions and stats based on the recent MLG performances, TSL, NASL and some ladder performances. I haven't watched enough IPL to consider putting it in here.
There will be spoilers in this thread, don't be an idiot and call me out for spoilering if you have any intention of not being spoiled by recent results

Also, for those (which I see is most) who don't understand what Power Ranking actually is, it isn't the top 10 NA players of all time or whatever, or my favourites, Power Ranking is who is on fire during the week, who is slumping and who was disappointing....
You don't always see Jaedong and Flash and 1 and 2 on the Power Rankings in Korea because they aren't always on their best. Maybe you guys should consider that for a minute!


1.NaNiwa

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NaNiwa is definitely not grabbing #1 with ease this week however well he is doing on the tournament Starcraft 2 Scene. The Swedish powerhouse has been showing everyone how well and safe Protoss can be played as of late despite the upcoming patch changes changing the way Toss may open and the new styles of Protoss that players such as Liquid'Tyler (Double Forge openings/heavy upgrade timings) and Mill.Adelscott (Gateway heavy style) have recently being showcasing well.
So far NaNiwa has only lost one game in his NASL group (he still has to play Slush this week) with some sort of forfeit to Strelok this week. In any case he had a strong showing against KawaiiRice (2-0) in the first week of NASL.
Winning MLG Dallas, placing into the semi-finals of the TSL (where he is favourites vs Hasuobs) and playing consistently in all of his other various leagues/tournaments while showing us some safe Protoss play has won NaNiwa first spot this week.

2. Empire.Kas

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I feel pretty bad for not putting this boss as 1st place this week in the Power Ranks despite his strong (but equal) TSL results as NaNiwa so far. Kas however does beat most players because of his run alone in the TSL, showing the community some amazing decision-making that has won him many games to this date.
Kas is known for destroying the Euro weekly/monthly tournaments, lately he has won HomerJ Ttesports Cup Grand Final and placing second after losing to oGsMC at Copenhagen Games Tournament.
Kas's flexible and quick decision making his kept his #2 this week and we all look forward to seeing some more strong Terran play from him.

3. EGiNcontroL

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Please don't be surprised by this because too many people seem to be. Geoff has proved to us how committed and in love with Starcraft he is. After a fairly mediocre year of 2010 he has really put his head down and gotten everything done. After placing 4th at MLG Dallas this year he showed us how much of a contender he is and how strong EG is beginning to look like a strong North American Powerhouse with IdrA back in the states to practice with EGMachine inhouse. After landing his amazing job at NASL as their head commentator it may be seen as him receiving Artosis syndrome (Not having enough time to play to keep at the tip top contenders level due to casting duties) but it has proved anything but.
Geoff is currently 3-0 in his group after beating oGsEnsnare, FXOqxc and CrunCher (all 2-1) and is playing DarkForce next week (which should prove interesting).
Geoff's amazingly safe but still stylistic Protoss is a great showcase for North American Protoss play and he deserves WAY more credit than he gets.

4. PraeThorZaiN

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This would probably be alot of peoples pick for 1 or 2 (or even 3) and I wouldn't really argue with it. ThorZain, from what we know, is a Swedish Terran player with little notable acheivements besides winning 2011 TeamSpeak TeamLiquid Open #12 EU which qualified him for the TSL3. As a complete underdog, he so far has managed to topple FruitDealer, oGsMC and TSL2 Champion Liquid'Tyler in such an interesint fashion which has brought more and more attention to him.
However, despite all of his solid play, awesome decision making, great preparation (and some pretty damn entertaining games) we never get to see ThorZain anywhere else. There isn't a trace of him that I can find in any recent weekly tournaments and he definitely doesn't participate in many if at all. ThorZain secures a decent 4th place this week for the above reasons, but could have acheived much better (probably even #1) if he participated more in weekly tournaments/LAN's which could show us more of this new crowd favourite.

5. EGIdrA

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Love him or hate him, theres either one (or both in alot of cases) choice you can go with Greg, his attitude and play-style. After a disappointing performance in MLG Dallas and an even worse TSL performance against the up and coming CrunCher it looked for a while like the Gracken was in a form slump since he had returned from Seoul to Arizona. However, to IdrA's credit, he is laddering hard and keeping a very high rank on the ladder (staying in the top 10 in the world and mostly 1 - 3 on NA Ladder) he is showing that he is far from slumping. This is also shown through his NASL stats which put him at the top of his group with his flawless record so far of 2-0 after beating Cloud and Socke.
I predict IdrA will continue to succeed and eventually rise to the top 3 of my Power Ranks in the coming weeks. He wins 5th this week because of his nice recovery despite jet lag/re-adjusting to living back in the US and his decent streaming performances.

6. FXOSheth

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Now this should definitely drop some jaws since this pick may not be seen by most as a 6th place contestant (or even a Power Rank qualifier) but Shaun has showed alot of people lately what he is capable of.
In case you live under a rock, Sheth placed reasonably well at MLG Dallas (he is 17th) and has being streaming for a few hours a day showing us alot more about his playstyle and some nice grandmaster perspective on the game.
However, besides from his absurdly high ladder ranking he is also doing amazing at NASL, currently sporting a 3-0 record so far after handily beating Artosis and Grubby 2-0 while edging out a 2-1 win against STRainbow.
Sheth is really showing his full potential and should really get more attention. He gets 6th this week because of his solid performances across the board.

7. CoLCrunCher

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I think alot of people expected CrunCher to be higher on the list, especially since he is getting much more popular these days as he makes his marks on the Starcraft 2 scene.
An ex-Warcraft 3 progamer, Cruncher won 2011 TeamSpeak TeamLiquid Open #10 NA qualifying him to vs EGIdrA in the first round of the TSL3. After beating IdrA in an infamous set we will all remember, CrunCher continued, besting Mondragon (a former Brood War legend) and pushed his way through the tournament bracket until NaNiwa defeated him last weekend.
Cruncher performed well at MLG Dallas and is performing mediocre at the NASL with going 1-2 with a hard match next week against the inform Korean Zerg legend Julyzerg.
CrunCher is a personality that is here to stay, he wins 7 for this week but if I was asked a week or two ago I would have placed him much higher, say 4th or so for his strong performances before he has began to slump a little. His different style of Protoss is nice and refreshing to see and he often streams so his fanbase is constantly increasing.

8. FnaticMSI'Fenix

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Fenix is amazing, and by amazing I mean as consistent as you could be. This longtime Brood War player has moved over well, playing steadily at all MLG's that he has attended and now the NASL where he has lead to a strong and promising lead in his group with a score of 3-0 after beating ViBE, KiwiKaKi and Grubby so far convincingly.
Fenix has lately shown us some more of his aggressive drop play and great tactics which has put him far ahead in many important games.
Fenix simply deserves 8th spot this week for doing so well at NASL, he is blowing my mind right now at how easy he makes his matchups look even when he is in a tightspot.
Fenix may stay in the same spot or jump up in the coming weeks depending on his performance, but I have faith he will be a shadow Power Ranks contender for a long time to come.

9. White-Ra

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White-Ra is basically this weeks wildcard for me, coming in at #9 I feel like he has performed quite well lately but not amazing like we've seen some of the explosions of tournament wins he leaves in his trail when he gets on form. White-Ra so far has had the hardest 3 weeks in the NASl and yet he has still managed to hold on well with a 2-1 score after playing and beating Power rank #7 CrunCher and Sjow (the awesome Ukrainian Terran) until losing to July this week 0-2. At the moment July looks pretty invincible so I feel like despite the loss the Duckload has really continued his good run so far and has a good chance to beat the current last place in his group FXOqxc next week when they meet.

10. ROOTKiwiKaKi

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Kiwikaki is possibly the biggest crowd favourite alongside TLO, Kiwikaki barely puts in foot in the door and snatches the #10 spot this week after placing 2nd at MLG Dallas. The creative Protoss has remained quite steady afterwards even after Blizzard nerfed the Archon Toilet (much to his dismay I would imagine). So far KiwiKaKi is 2-1 in his NASL groups after losing to Power Rank #8 FnaticFenix this week.
KiwiKaKi continues to show us more and more of why everyone loves to watch his play with his strong and entertaining tournament showings.


That just about raps up this weeks Power Rank for Sc2 done by me, Atlare! :D
If you'd like to leave some feedback/opinions, then by all means do so just remember to stay positive in this thread .
In the future I'll be using links more heavily but its kinda 5am at the moment so i'll be editing it in later if needed!

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MattRz
Profile Joined April 2011
Chile1680 Posts
April 29 2011 19:14 GMT
#2
Wow INcontroL is pretty high. I would only remove IdrA, and maybe add MorroW
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Atlare
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia893 Posts
April 29 2011 19:15 GMT
#3
On April 30 2011 04:14 MattRz wrote:
Wow INcontroL is pretty high. I would only remove IdrA, and maybe add MorroW

Funny you say that, Morrow was 11th on my brainstorming paper
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
April 29 2011 19:17 GMT
#4
Incontrol in front of kiwi and morrow is pretty bold
Atlare
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia893 Posts
April 29 2011 19:19 GMT
#5
On April 30 2011 04:17 MrCon wrote:
Incontrol in front of kiwi and morrow is pretty bold

Idk I just think Incontrol has placed extremely well lately even with his coaching/casting duties. People seem to disagree but I think the stats are there.
Morrow is definitely an honourable mention though.
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Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6225 Posts
April 29 2011 19:32 GMT
#6
Interesting opinions, I can't disagree all that much. Naniwa is obviously a beast right now, and Kas is looking amazing in his TSL run.

I think you should have mentioned IPL results, Idra has been tearing up his opponents in that league so far and I think that he definitely deserves a spot for this. 5th seems decent. Thorzain placing 4th based on 3 matches alone in the TSL is kind of iffy. I don't know if I would have done that.

Definitely a lot of bias towards TSL results. Still, entertaining read. Would be cool to see a staff opinion on SC2 power ranks
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wrestlingfool08
Profile Joined November 2009
United States139 Posts
April 29 2011 19:34 GMT
#7
I would definitely switch up thorzain and incontrol, but other than that I am (for the most part) satisfied.
Firereaver
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
India1701 Posts
April 29 2011 19:43 GMT
#8
THESE PRs are just......BAD.
IdrA less than Inc???
KiWi less than Cruncher. LOLWUT?!?!
Fenix in from nowhere???

Please remove any latent biases... from future PRs...
"They drone drone drone , me win" - JangMinChul(Iron/oGsMC)
FakePlasticLove
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States357 Posts
April 29 2011 19:44 GMT
#9
No SelecT?

Incontrol way too high.
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rsvp
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States2266 Posts
April 29 2011 19:51 GMT
#10
Nice presentation, but there's so many things wrong with this list I don't know where to start. You're pretty much just listing your favorite players - which is fine, but don't call this a power rank because if you claim this is based on results then you're just wrong, and if you claim this is based on skill/potential then you're just misinformed.

Your reasonings are seemingly random, and mostly illogical:

You seem to put a lot of emphasis on TSL results (why else do you have thorzain at #4), but then you ignore a player like Hasuobs who is in the semis after 3-0ing boxer (that's not all he's done either - he won that big LAN in Italy).

MLG results seem to be important for you as well, but you have Kiwi who placed #2 at #10, and then you call Idra's top 8 finish to be "disappointing" while calling Fenix and Cruncher's MLG performances of top 50 to be "good." And hello? Where is Select? 3rd at MLG and also currently undefeated in his NASL division.

Also you can't write a ranking like this and ignore major touranments like IPL. It's not an excuse to just say "oh I didn't have time to watch it." And if you've even taken a peak at the results you'd know that Sheth does not have "solid performances across the board," bombing out of the IPL with 2 straight losses. Incontrol also did poorly in IPL btw.

Lastly, many other notable players are left out, such as Dimaga... he's arguably one of the best zergs in the world (not just NA/EU - did you see GSL WC?), but no where on this list?

Scarmony
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany98 Posts
April 29 2011 19:53 GMT
#11
I, personally, wouldnt even put incontrol in top20, but thats just my opinion. you clearly forgot people like morrow, select, demuslim (watch out for him!) and sen. i dont understand why fenix even gets mentioned. if you go by his recent accomplishments, you could even mention people like MaNa, root players or the entire TL roster. doesnt make too much sense in my opinion.
Shai
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada806 Posts
April 29 2011 19:55 GMT
#12
Why would you remove idra? He's on an 11 game win-streak (elo-relevant games). Three weeks ago I would agree that he was in a huge slump, but not now.
Eagerly awaiting Techies.
Samejima
Profile Joined June 2004
Canada534 Posts
April 29 2011 20:23 GMT
#13
I would remove Incontrol, Fenix, Cruncher and add Select, Sen and Dimaga. Mondragon will definitely be on that list when he plays more tourney, also, Kiwi should be at least top 5.
What we call chaos is just patterns we haven't recognized yet.
alexhard
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden317 Posts
April 29 2011 21:39 GMT
#14
Where's Nerchio? He's been completely tearing it up on the euro online cups lately. Also, HasuObs won the UGC and has been doing well in TSL as well, but he doesn't break the top 10? Come on...
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
April 29 2011 21:44 GMT
#15
People chill out its just someones opinion. Nothing more, but they are fun to read. I like it.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
Darclite
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1021 Posts
April 29 2011 21:48 GMT
#16
I don't dislike your choices, as it is virtually impossible to compare so many great players.

NaNiWa and Kas are just monsters as of late, they deserve the top 2.

I am not surprised at all to find Sheth up there, and when you said in the first line that people would be surprised, I thought you meant because he would be higher. Judging by his ladder stats, his record in the NASL, and just from seeing his great control, macro, and creative and diverse armies by the casted games and the streamed ones, I'd wager that he'll be on a tear in the months to come.

Thorzain I would drop. While I like the way he is being creative in TvP, his performance in the TSL was overrated (In one win he made a well timed push with thors, not exactly micro intensive or ground-breaking. In his loss on Tal'Darim Altar, people raved about the EMPs, when MC was outmicroing him in the templar/ghost battle for most of the game). Don't get me wrong, he is certainly a rising star, but one big series doesn't say much. He refines his builds and has solid macro, but I don't know if he gets a spot.

Fenix I would replace with Sen. I think Sen could be argued as a top 3 zerg in the world, and if I remember correctly Sen won a series vs. Fenix in decisive fashion. I say Fenix should be replaced only because he hasn't done anything so exceptional that I would give him a top 10 slot.

I think incontroL deserves a spot up there. People criticize him too much, his play has improved dramatically - I'd say he's improved more than anyone else in the past couple of months (not saying he is best, saying he improved). Maybe 3 is generous, but it is understandable. I guess 5 would work.

Even though everyone seems to hate Cruncher for no reason, I like him. He has made a name for himself now. He is good, but I think his spot should be given to SeleCT. Select doesn't lose. He just knows how to stay alive. I think he is the best player for Terran players to learn from.

IdrA I would've said to remove, but I watched his stream yesterday, and now he seems like he has the same macro but is more aggressive, and he's much better.

WhiteRa and KiWiKaKi are awesome. WhiteRa has caught so much attention from the world sc2 community for some big wins and creative play... I mean special tactics (:

Dimaga and Morrow also earned spots, but I'm out of spots.

I'd go Naniwa, Kas, WhiteRa, Sheth, IdrA, Sen, SeleCT, InControL, KiWiKaKi, Dimaga/Morrow.

They're fools. You should eat them.
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
April 29 2011 22:01 GMT
#17
i agree with top 2, disagree with everything else completely
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10118 Posts
April 29 2011 22:04 GMT
#18
we just got trolled when i saw fenix on there. no select = LOL!!!

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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
April 29 2011 22:19 GMT
#19
I'm not knowledgeable enough to really talk a lot about who is or is not the best player, but considering "streaming performance" is pretty stupid.

Also, this should be considered a "foreigner power rank" - as you are obviously missing that whole asian continent
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GameTime
Profile Joined May 2010
United States222 Posts
April 29 2011 22:25 GMT
#20
I liked reading it, Power Rankings are always controversial, but you did a good job.
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DiaBoLuS
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany1638 Posts
April 29 2011 22:48 GMT
#21
god.

this is simply incredibly wrong

at #3 i stopped reading.


my eu ranking is a bit more realistic i guess oO
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=182293
if id add NA players, idra, select, kiwikaki, huk would be the best NA players obv.
European Ranking: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=182293
Atlare
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia893 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-30 02:25:19
April 30 2011 02:22 GMT
#22
I thought about putting Select in but he hasn't really shined lately he only won the i42 British LAN and although he did do well in MLG I'm not really convinced to put him in yet. But who knows? he could earn one later onwards!
I'm not putting anyone who is in Korea on the list because basically it just turns into me putting every foreigner in Korea down and then everyone left in the TSL.
Incontrol isn't that bad of a pick for 3 if you actually look as his recent acheivements if you compare him to most of the 'best' NA players.
Also, for those (which I see is most) who don't understand what Power Ranking actually is, it isn't the top 10 NA players of all time or whatever, or my favourites, Power Ranking is who is on fire during the week, who is slumping and who was disappointing....
You don't always see Jaedong and Flash and 1 and 2 on the Power Rankings in Korea because they aren't always on their best. Maybe you guys should consider that for a minute!
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