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Could The IPL be Hurting SC2 Esports?

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hellsan631
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States695 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-29 21:43:53
April 29 2011 00:24 GMT
#1
I've been frustrated at both the IPL and the NASL for a few weeks. Mainly because the live broadcasts, which i much prefer over vods, run at similar times. I thought about why the two fight over 4 hours of time, instead of using the many hours before both leagues are held.

The goal of this blog is not to bash either of the leagues, but to bring up the issue of broadcasting times, and why having overlapping shows/leagues can hurt.

I'm sure there are fans of both of these two leagues, and I don't mean to take anything away from either of them. Both of them (in time) have amazing production quality, and great casting, as well as some great games. Having said that, I feel that the direct competitive nature of both of the leagues, as well as their broadcasting schedules, does nothing more then hurt both leagues.

In response to everyone who jumps on the "prime time is what they fight for", I would like to focus on the what "Prime Time" broadcasting hours are, and their relationship with internet streams.

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Prime Time is, for the most part, 8pm - 11pm, every day (PST), or 7pm - 10pm CST/EST. This is a standard that has existed in television for a long time. Now for sporting events, they usually run during the day, from 2pm to around 7pm (usually in the NA).

Now, the IPL starts right before the NASL, at 5pm, and runs for about 3-4 hours. This means, that it runs up and to the prime time, but not over it. Both leagues seem to favor starting before Prime Time broadcasting hours, at least in the NA. This may be due to the broadcast being too large to fit during prime time, but IPL (atleast) doesn't often touch those "prime time" hours.

Now both of these leagues numbers pale in comparison to those of the TSL. The TSL gets around 3-4x the amount of viewers, and starts mid-day (11am PST).

Now how could this be? Aren't Prime Time broadcasting hours supposed to be when a majority of will be watching tv? While this concept is important for a lot of cable programming and scheduling,

It does not affect sports viewing (starcraft is a sport), because event viewing runs on different rules then does tuning into your favorite reality tv show each day.

It doesn't take into account the scope of time zones of people who watch internet streams, as these cause a variance in the times which are "actually" prime time broadcasting hours.

It represents a demographic which doesn't match that of people who play/watch StarCraft. Im doing a bit far out with this one in reguards to facts, but most of us don't see ourselves as a "normal" person. (somewhat referencing personality tests on TL)


Prime Time for StarCraft broadcasts is a completely different concept then that of Prime Time on tv, for those reasons. There isn't a set good time to start or end a league, just as there isn't enough data on viewership to even guess at what those times might be. If you look at a recent poll on TL, 30% come from a CET timezone, 31% come from a EST/CST timezone, 14% come from GMT, and 13% come from a PST time zone. This means that there isn't a set ideal timezone to choose when selecting broadcasting times.

TLDR - There isn't a "Prime Time" broadcasting time in regards to the Internet, as the amount of countries and timezones that tune into each league make the start/end time completely irrelevant.

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For the most part, the production quality of the IPL has no rival, including free 1080p and free vods. The folks at WellPlayed.org did an amazing job at ensuring they took a lot of viewers away from NASL. Now my concern is just that. While the IPL has quality, it lacks personality, and a good player base. There is no back and forth of a duo commentary, and I would reguard it as just watching youtube videos of the solo casters for a few hours, abet well produced. Prize Pool aside, I would much rather tune into the games over at the NASL, if they quality was about the same. Sure there are 1080p, and vods, and what not for free, but I just find myself not caring that much about the IPL.

Now, it seems that the IGN wants to take viewers away from the NASL. Instead of working with them schedule wise, they place their broadcast schedule right over the NASL. Broadcast schedule for the NASL has been known for quite some time, yet IGN just decides the best time would be during those hours? Sure there are other reasons for this, but starting 30min before the NASL's preshow (meaning 1 hour before games) means they position themselves to have the higher viewer count for the remainder of their broadcast, due to the investment of time and "loyality" this helps build.

This type of scheduling bad for both leagues. It cuts the viewership of both in about half. The direct competition between two companies, with a very limited viewer base, has far reaching consequences for sponsors, and decisions regarding the future is each league. When people look at both leagues fighting for a few thousand viewers every day, the numbers just aren't there.

Think Of It Like This:
You and your sibling have 3 cupcakes between the two of you. Instead of dividing them, you fight over who gets the last one, because both of you think only one deserves it. That's basically whats happening here. Each cupcake represents the time people watch sc2. Now in this scenario, after a while, the other two cupcakes get taken away, meaning less for the both of you. Sure one might get a bigger chunk of the remaining, but over all, there is more market time (cupcake) out there.

If IGN worked something out with the NASL, and broadcast before or after, not during, it would be a few more hours of league play per day, which means that overall, more time is spent watching.

Also, I would like to bring up the fact that the day9 daily runs during the mid-game of the NASL, as well as (sometimes) the end of the IPL. Now the daily draws a good 10k viewers on a NASL day, but only 5k when the NASL is broadcasting. Sometimes its as low as 3k when both of them are on.

Perhaps I'm over-reacting a bit, and perhaps this problem will eventually fix itself. Maybe I'm being too cynical in regards to the times that IGN picked. Did they really want to compete with the NASL? Maybe its even a bias I have because I feel some sort of loyalty towards the NASL, as I was there, excited, and waiting for it to launch.

I guess I just wanted to point this out, and see if its something worth mentioning. Anyone else feel that there is way too much sc to watch at one time, so you don't end up watching any?

The NASL announced its broadcast schedule at the end of February (a while before the IPL was announced). They stated that they had an ambitious project which would take up a majority of the "Prime Time" broadcast hours for NA (which is less then half its audience), and they would also broadcast again for their EU viewers. They do a double broadcast because they charge for access to their vods.

Now IGN, being a competitive company, decided that its in their best interests to broadcast along the same time. Their broadcast wasn't as important, as they have free vods. However, they also have free 1080p, and their production quality is much higher. They choose ideal times to compete for the NASL viewers.

However, because of certain factors, their numbers, for the most part, have been less then that of the NASL broadcast. Also, since the start of the IPL, numbers are down a little bit for the NASL, during the time when the IPL is on.

This is most likely due to the IPL having free vods, and it not being advertised as heavily in the community as the NASL, nor as hyped.

Now the viewer market can be judged to be around 100k people, as there are usually around 10-20k people watching streams at any given time, and the highest broadcasting numbers usually reach about 50-60k people (TSL).

This market represents the difference most small time tv shows on cable see between episodes. However small that market is, it can be argued that it is growing, as starcraft is becoming more accessible to the masses. However, growth is smaller right now, due to the game being in between expansions. (Communities usually experience their largest periods of growth at the release of new sequels and expansions to their game.)

This means that during the broadcast of the NASL and IPL, the market becomes somewhat over saturated with content, and the numbers of viewers are much smaller then they should be, if one league were to be broadcasting. Now, one may argue that they both are focusing on the "prime time" market, but if you read the above, thats not wholly true. As it turns out, they are just in competition with each other, seeking no benefit other then brand loyalty, or disloyalty.

If both NASL and IGN worked something out, it would benefit both of the broadcasts viewing numbers, and create a dynamic between the two leagues, which might in turn generate more "live" viewer interest (think of the NFC and AFC, where there can be a live back and forth before/after a broadcast).

TLDR - The broadcast times of both the NASL and IPL cause a large drop in viewers for both leagues, causing less interest by corporate figures, and overall hurting esports. Scheduling them at different times means there is more time spent watching league play, and overall, more viewers for everyone.

Notes:
This is not a flame post. I don't have any issue with either league, and love watching them both live. The issue comes from the fact that during most of the day, 3-7pm central, there are no leagues being run, and both of these leagues choose 8-12 to show their content.

While coming up with the title, I originally didn't want to be too bold. Sure I can name it something more revelent, like "Broadcasting Times Issue", but I do think this is a serious thing that needs to be addressed/talked about. The root cause of this is a conflict between the NASL and IPL broadcasting times, which i would point the finger at the IPL for causing.

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Tschis
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil1511 Posts
April 29 2011 00:32 GMT
#2
e-Sports is growing. Eventually, someone will have to stream at the same time as others.

This is happening now, and as long as e-sports keeps growing, it will happen more often.

I don't think it's that bad, you have the VODs, just watch them, it's not like you can't see the games at all.
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hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
April 29 2011 00:36 GMT
#3
I think it's a valid concern and in the long run I don't think we're going to see that much of this kind of overlap, but the NASL broadcast is pretty freaking long and it's on 5 days a week, it's not like the IPL has any other place to go. The ridiculous number of games they broadcast is the root of the problem if you want to call it that, but I don't think that's the future for SC2. Less matches with more hype work much better IMO.
hellsan631
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States695 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-29 00:43:06
April 29 2011 00:41 GMT
#4
On April 29 2011 09:32 Tschis wrote:
e-Sports is growing. Eventually, someone will have to stream at the same time as others.

This is happening now, and as long as e-sports keeps growing, it will happen more often.

I don't think it's that bad, you have the VODs, just watch them, it's not like you can't see the games at all.


I do agree, but my worry is that the IPL isn't adding that many more viewers. If both leagues were at different times, they both would have around 14k viewers or so. but when they both broadcast, its around 7k-9k per stream. While this is more individual people watching at one time, it also means that overall, less time is spent watching starcraft.

I think of it similar to the California gold rush. People can fight over a small plot of land with a lot of known gold. But some of the richest people found their own plots of land. There was less there for sure, but it was more for them.

On April 29 2011 09:36 hugman wrote:
I think it's a valid concern and in the long run I don't think we're going to see that much of this kind of overlap, but the NASL broadcast is pretty freaking long and it's on 5 days a week, it's not like the IPL has any other place to go.


There are several "prime" hours before the IPL/NASL start. There can be some overlap, but having a majority overlap is worse.
gods_basement
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States305 Posts
April 29 2011 00:42 GMT
#5
On April 29 2011 09:41 hellsan631 wrote:
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On April 29 2011 09:32 Tschis wrote:
e-Sports is growing. Eventually, someone will have to stream at the same time as others.

This is happening now, and as long as e-sports keeps growing, it will happen more often.

I don't think it's that bad, you have the VODs, just watch them, it's not like you can't see the games at all.


I do agree, but my worry is that the IPL isn't adding that many more viewers. If both leagues were at different times, they both would have around 14k viewers or so. but when they both broadcast, its around 7k-9k per stream. While this is more individual people watching at one time, it also means that overall, less time is spent watching starcraft.

I think of it similar to the California gold rush. People can fight over a small plot of land with a lot of known gold. But some of the richest people found their own plots of land. There was less there for sure, but it was more for them.


i dont think that many people have 7 hours a day to dedicate to watching starcraft
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DeckOneBell
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States526 Posts
April 29 2011 00:43 GMT
#6
It does increase the possibility of one league shutting down, which I'm fine with. I prefer one to the other, so I don't feel the need for both to exist.

This is kind of "harsh" and yes, it might not be very nice, but that's my honest opinion.

It really doesn't matter which one I prefer, but yes, consolidation wouldn't be a bad thing in my opinion. That said, most viewers I assume will choose just to follow one league or another. Right now, I feel there's so much SC2 that it's pretty much impossible to follow ALL of it, so people are already making decisions as it is. Western E-SPORTS vs. GSL, whether or not Dreamhack is worth watching, MLG, TSL.


With how much stuff is out, something's gotta give.
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
April 29 2011 00:44 GMT
#7
Have you thought about the flip side; that competition causes both leagues to step up their game?

Plus, the identity of SC2 esports is far from fully formed. Its a bit too early to worry about its imminent death...
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awu25
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2003 Posts
April 29 2011 00:48 GMT
#8
I'm sure both broadcast times were decided long ago. Who's to say it's IGN's fault because they started their league later? Besides IPL is only a couple of weeks and then it'll be gone.
heishe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany2284 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-29 00:50:04
April 29 2011 00:48 GMT
#9
I don't think having both leagues run at the same time makes that much of a difference. Think about it this way: If the airing times of the two leagues were different, who would watch 5+ hours of matches back to back every day? I think it's pretty simplistic to assume that the NASL would start out with 10-15k viewers and the viewer count would stay the same for the IPL later.

Plus, I'm pretty sure the IPL gets a majority of their views from VODs anyways.

Actually, since they both air at a comfortable US time, both leagues might actually have a higher accumulated viewer count than if, say, the IPL would air 3 hours later.
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Zeri
Profile Joined March 2010
United States773 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-29 00:52:22
April 29 2011 00:51 GMT
#10
I don't think its a huge deal right now. Consider by analogy watching most of any professional sports. Any given Sunday in the fall, you have multiple football games being played at the same time and overlapping each other and viewers have to flip back and forth to check scores and such. And it works fine as long as the games aren't super important. Though the analogy isn't perfect because you could have the same player on both streams in starcraft, you can also have multiple streams open.. So I would conclude that as long as its not the later stages of tournament play and finals, overlap really is not a big deal...
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mikyaJ
Profile Joined April 2011
1834 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-29 00:53:21
April 29 2011 00:53 GMT
#11
It's annoying that it practically split some of the community. It's almost becoming clique-like in regards to people who watch the NASL exclusively and IPL exclusively.
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Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
April 29 2011 00:54 GMT
#12
On April 29 2011 09:53 mikyaJ wrote:
It's annoying that it practically split some of the community. It's almost becoming clique-like in regards to people who watch the NASL exclusively and IPL exclusively.


I think this was sorta true for a few days but it's petering out. Nobody's really going to give a shit about who watches what in two months.
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-Valor-
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States283 Posts
April 29 2011 01:25 GMT
#13
Yea, to be honest I enjoy both for differing reasons. The IPL has sick quality but the switch-off of casters isn't very appealing to me. For the NASL, I love iNcontrol's analysis and the Gretorp-iNcontrol combo is improving.
OminouS
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1343 Posts
April 29 2011 02:10 GMT
#14
I always watch dual, tripple or sometimes even more streams at the same time. When games overlap I just mute one stream but still follow the action of the games on both.

Or just watch vods later. I think it's great that we have a choice.
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FakePlasticLove
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States357 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-29 02:21:37
April 29 2011 02:20 GMT
#15
How is a free, better quality hurting Esports? Maybe it hurts NASL, but it also gives them motives to one up their game.

Haven't you guys realized OGN and MBC air proleagues at the same time...
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floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
April 29 2011 02:40 GMT
#16
Someone could very easily turn this around and say NASL, with their "4 guys and a dream" approach are harming esports way more because they are taking viewers from IGN, a company with far greater resources and a much greater chance of blowing your 'esports' up and getting it into the mainstream.

I mean at the end of the day, if your only concern is the proliferation of esports and getting it out to the masses, wouldn't it make way more sense for you to be accusing NASL of hurting esports if they are getting in IGN's way?

Of course to do that would make you an idiot because they have every right in the world to give it their best effort to create the biggest NA league if that's their desire.

But as the very first White Knight of ESPORTS I must beg you to stop using its name to spread your own biased opinions
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-29 02:52:39
April 29 2011 02:51 GMT
#17
Proleague had 2 games broadcast on different channels at the same time for a long time, it's just juvenile people who blow this up for sc2. I'm kinda sad people can't just enjoy both shows for what they are, they don't have to constantly argue which is better to hide their own insecurities that they chose the "wrong" one to watch. There isn't a right/wrong choice, just watch for the games and for the players, people need to stop being right all the time, that's what's hurting esports, the vocal minority of idiots, not the tournament hosts.
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
April 29 2011 03:07 GMT
#18
I'm glad that they do this. I can switch between streams and find players that I like to follow or entertaining matchups during the whole thing. I greatly value my time, so if a PvP or a TvP (I'm a Zerg) of two lesser known players pops up, I can switch streams. If it were only one league, then I'd go play HoN or LoL with my friends. So honestly, I think this helps both of the leagues because one interesting match is happening almost all of the time.
oxidized
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States324 Posts
April 29 2011 03:08 GMT
#19
It's unfortunate that they take the same time slot, but I just want to note that one of my friends who is not into SC2 got into it because of IPL. I think IPL is great and can pull in many new viewers!
staplestf2
Profile Joined January 2011
United States147 Posts
April 29 2011 03:09 GMT
#20
watch ipl live and then watch the EU restream of NASL
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